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"GreyCloud" <mist@cumulus.com> wrote in message
news:Q5KdnRiU5c5_iPbWnZ2dnUVZ_r-dnZ2d@bresnan.com...
> Frank wrote:
>> GreyCloud wrote:
>>> Frank wrote:
>>>> GreyCloud wrote:
>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>> GreyCloud wrote:
>>>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>>>> GreyCloud wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 20:00:43 -0700, GreyCloud
>>>>>>>>>> <mist@cumulus.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ubuntu 9.10 has been judged and found to be lacking.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I ran the live-cd and checked it out a bit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Can't use Forte Agent, can't use my favorite file manager
>>>>>>>>>>>> "XYplorer",
>>>>>>>>>>>> can't use Foobar, can't use Irfanview without downloading
>>>>>>>>>>>> something else
>>>>>>>>>>>> and going through another 20 steps, can't, can't, can't,
>>>>>>>>>>>> can't, can't
>>>>>>>>>>>> and on and on and on.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Replacements for this, replacements for that, I have to have
>>>>>>>>>>>> replacements for all the applications that I cherish and have
>>>>>>>>>>>> come to
>>>>>>>>>>>> appreciate. I don't want replacements, or something just
>>>>>>>>>>>> about like this
>>>>>>>>>>>> app or that app, etc...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> That is about as far as I got with the Live CD. After I found
>>>>>>>>>>>> out I
>>>>>>>>>>>> couldn't use any applications that I normally use, I just
>>>>>>>>>>>> ejected the CD
>>>>>>>>>>>> and tossed it in the trash.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for nothing Ubuntu. I sure am glad I didn't actually
>>>>>>>>>>>> install you.
>>>>>>>>>>> Plus you can't play commercial DVDs.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Wow. No wonder this piece of crap has never persuaded more
>>>>>>>>>> people to use
>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And when you go to the support groups you are told to add
>>>>>>>>> packman to the repository so that you can download the win32
>>>>>>>>> codecs and libdvdcss and install them. Unfortunately, this
>>>>>>>>> leads to other dependency nightmares.
>>>>>>>>> Even then, it still won't work because there is yet another
>>>>>>>>> codec needed... like H.264 or H.263. And yet it still won't work.
>>>>>>>>> All it does is put you on a scavenger hunt for days.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not any more. See my other post to you about Ubuntu Restricted
>>>>>>>> Extras.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Which repository are those in?
>>>>>>> Bear in mind that I'm in the US, not another country where it is
>>>>>>> legal to do these things on Linux.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then you have a decision to make.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I did. I checked out another posted url and found that I was
>>>>> missing a required library. So I checked around on various mirrors
>>>>> and downloaded it from a german site. Now it finally works. Totem
>>>>> tried to run, but crashed for whatever reasons... so I started up
>>>>> MPlayer and it worked pretty good. But it took me a bit too long to
>>>>> find a solution and I just about gave it up.
>>>>
>>>> I had "fooled around" with various linux distros for a over a decade.
>>>> My experience parallels yours and proly most others who have tried
>>>> linux. At first, linux is "fun" just like most new toys, then it
>>>> quickly turns into a job...one that you are not being paid for. At
>>>> that point in time, most simply get rid of it.
>>>> It is user friendly but only up to a certain point, then it becomes
>>>> sheer drudgery, as you, me, and many others have discovered.
>>>> The problem as I see it...and I come from a technical/marketing
>>>> background, it that there are simple too many different distros. No
>>>> real focus as anyone and everyone can create their own distro.
>>>> linux is an unfulfilled promise and always will be, because open
>>>> source is the genie that can never be put back into the bottle.
>>>
>>> I've dumped so many distros in the past. That is why I now use VMWare
>>> to try them out. If they don't work, it is very easy to get rid of
>>> them... I just drag and drop the vm image for the distro into the
>>> trash can. VirtualBox, tho it is free, is buggy, so that too went
>>> into the trash can. Linux is ok if you are running it on an IBM
>>> mainframe and program custom apps for business and get IBMs help along
>>> the way. For home use, it really isn't worth the effort as in the
>>> final analysis the os that your are using as a host does all that one
>>> needs anyway.
>>
>> Yeah I stopped multi-boot installing linux distros with Windows because
>> that POS grub loader could not be gotten rid of without a major effort.
>> The last OS other than Windows that I was excited about was BEos, but
>> Apple killed that one, so now I'm only interested in Windows and I
>> really like 7 and Windows Home Server.
>> Great products!
>>
>>
> I haven't had the time to convince my wife to let me get a new win7
> based PC yet. I'd like to get a quad core HP and also get the new
> Visual Studio 10. I like the Mac running snow leopard. Very easy to
> use. The only problem comes when you want to develop a program for
> heavy duty database use. XCode doesn't have any database templates like
> win2000 had in VS 6.0.
> I remember when I had grub installed to dual boot win2000 and Redhat.
> Then when I just wanted win2000 only and got rid of the grub, all I got
> was missing os error message. I had to go back to use the linux
> installer to reformat the hard drive and then stopped at that point,
> then I had to reinstall win2000. Then it worked ok.
Hmmm....I'd bet....
http://www.ehow.com/how_4836283_repair-mbr-windows.html
1.. Step 1
Insert Win 7 installation DVD and boot from DVD drive. While in some older
systems you may have to change boot order through system BIOS, most newer
systems allow booting from DVD without changing boot order by simply
clicking on any key when prompted to doing so.
2.. Step 2
Choose your default "Language", "Time", and "keyboard Input" on the first
window and click next.
3.. Step 3
You're now presented with 3 choices. Click on "Repair Your Computer" to
gain access to the System Recovery window. Now choose "Command Prompt" in
order to run the desired utility which is called "bootsect.exe". Bootsect is
located inside the boot folder so change your directory to boot. Now run
"bootsect /nt60 C" if you had Win 7 initially installed in the C
partition. Alternatively, you can run "bootsect /nt60 SYS" or "bootsect
/nt60 ALL" to repair the system partition or all partitions. Eject the DVD,
and restart computer. Your computer should now boot Win 7 again.
news:Q5KdnRiU5c5_iPbWnZ2dnUVZ_r-dnZ2d@bresnan.com...
> Frank wrote:
>> GreyCloud wrote:
>>> Frank wrote:
>>>> GreyCloud wrote:
>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>> GreyCloud wrote:
>>>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>>>> GreyCloud wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 20:00:43 -0700, GreyCloud
>>>>>>>>>> <mist@cumulus.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ubuntu 9.10 has been judged and found to be lacking.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I ran the live-cd and checked it out a bit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Can't use Forte Agent, can't use my favorite file manager
>>>>>>>>>>>> "XYplorer",
>>>>>>>>>>>> can't use Foobar, can't use Irfanview without downloading
>>>>>>>>>>>> something else
>>>>>>>>>>>> and going through another 20 steps, can't, can't, can't,
>>>>>>>>>>>> can't, can't
>>>>>>>>>>>> and on and on and on.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Replacements for this, replacements for that, I have to have
>>>>>>>>>>>> replacements for all the applications that I cherish and have
>>>>>>>>>>>> come to
>>>>>>>>>>>> appreciate. I don't want replacements, or something just
>>>>>>>>>>>> about like this
>>>>>>>>>>>> app or that app, etc...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> That is about as far as I got with the Live CD. After I found
>>>>>>>>>>>> out I
>>>>>>>>>>>> couldn't use any applications that I normally use, I just
>>>>>>>>>>>> ejected the CD
>>>>>>>>>>>> and tossed it in the trash.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for nothing Ubuntu. I sure am glad I didn't actually
>>>>>>>>>>>> install you.
>>>>>>>>>>> Plus you can't play commercial DVDs.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Wow. No wonder this piece of crap has never persuaded more
>>>>>>>>>> people to use
>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And when you go to the support groups you are told to add
>>>>>>>>> packman to the repository so that you can download the win32
>>>>>>>>> codecs and libdvdcss and install them. Unfortunately, this
>>>>>>>>> leads to other dependency nightmares.
>>>>>>>>> Even then, it still won't work because there is yet another
>>>>>>>>> codec needed... like H.264 or H.263. And yet it still won't work.
>>>>>>>>> All it does is put you on a scavenger hunt for days.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not any more. See my other post to you about Ubuntu Restricted
>>>>>>>> Extras.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Which repository are those in?
>>>>>>> Bear in mind that I'm in the US, not another country where it is
>>>>>>> legal to do these things on Linux.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then you have a decision to make.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I did. I checked out another posted url and found that I was
>>>>> missing a required library. So I checked around on various mirrors
>>>>> and downloaded it from a german site. Now it finally works. Totem
>>>>> tried to run, but crashed for whatever reasons... so I started up
>>>>> MPlayer and it worked pretty good. But it took me a bit too long to
>>>>> find a solution and I just about gave it up.
>>>>
>>>> I had "fooled around" with various linux distros for a over a decade.
>>>> My experience parallels yours and proly most others who have tried
>>>> linux. At first, linux is "fun" just like most new toys, then it
>>>> quickly turns into a job...one that you are not being paid for. At
>>>> that point in time, most simply get rid of it.
>>>> It is user friendly but only up to a certain point, then it becomes
>>>> sheer drudgery, as you, me, and many others have discovered.
>>>> The problem as I see it...and I come from a technical/marketing
>>>> background, it that there are simple too many different distros. No
>>>> real focus as anyone and everyone can create their own distro.
>>>> linux is an unfulfilled promise and always will be, because open
>>>> source is the genie that can never be put back into the bottle.
>>>
>>> I've dumped so many distros in the past. That is why I now use VMWare
>>> to try them out. If they don't work, it is very easy to get rid of
>>> them... I just drag and drop the vm image for the distro into the
>>> trash can. VirtualBox, tho it is free, is buggy, so that too went
>>> into the trash can. Linux is ok if you are running it on an IBM
>>> mainframe and program custom apps for business and get IBMs help along
>>> the way. For home use, it really isn't worth the effort as in the
>>> final analysis the os that your are using as a host does all that one
>>> needs anyway.
>>
>> Yeah I stopped multi-boot installing linux distros with Windows because
>> that POS grub loader could not be gotten rid of without a major effort.
>> The last OS other than Windows that I was excited about was BEos, but
>> Apple killed that one, so now I'm only interested in Windows and I
>> really like 7 and Windows Home Server.
>> Great products!
>>
>>
> I haven't had the time to convince my wife to let me get a new win7
> based PC yet. I'd like to get a quad core HP and also get the new
> Visual Studio 10. I like the Mac running snow leopard. Very easy to
> use. The only problem comes when you want to develop a program for
> heavy duty database use. XCode doesn't have any database templates like
> win2000 had in VS 6.0.
> I remember when I had grub installed to dual boot win2000 and Redhat.
> Then when I just wanted win2000 only and got rid of the grub, all I got
> was missing os error message. I had to go back to use the linux
> installer to reformat the hard drive and then stopped at that point,
> then I had to reinstall win2000. Then it worked ok.
Hmmm....I'd bet....
http://www.ehow.com/how_4836283_repair-mbr-windows.html
1.. Step 1
Insert Win 7 installation DVD and boot from DVD drive. While in some older
systems you may have to change boot order through system BIOS, most newer
systems allow booting from DVD without changing boot order by simply
clicking on any key when prompted to doing so.
2.. Step 2
Choose your default "Language", "Time", and "keyboard Input" on the first
window and click next.
3.. Step 3
You're now presented with 3 choices. Click on "Repair Your Computer" to
gain access to the System Recovery window. Now choose "Command Prompt" in
order to run the desired utility which is called "bootsect.exe". Bootsect is
located inside the boot folder so change your directory to boot. Now run
"bootsect /nt60 C" if you had Win 7 initially installed in the C
partition. Alternatively, you can run "bootsect /nt60 SYS" or "bootsect
/nt60 ALL" to repair the system partition or all partitions. Eject the DVD,
and restart computer. Your computer should now boot Win 7 again.