Ubuntu 9.10 has been judged and found to be lacking. I ran the live-cd and checked it out a bit. Can't use Forte Agent, can't use my favorite file manager "XYplorer", can't use Foobar, can't use Irfanview without downloading something else and going through another 20 steps, can't, can't, can't, can't, can't and on and on and on. Replacements for this, replacements for that, I have to have replacements for all the applications that I cherish and have come to appreciate. I don't want replacements, or something just about like this app or that app, etc... That is about as far as I got with the Live CD. After I found out I couldn't use any applications that I normally use, I just ejected the CD and tossed it in the trash. Thanks for nothing Ubuntu. I sure am glad I didn't actually install you. -- All of Usenet is in a psychological, emotional, and antisocial free fall into an abyss and fully immersed in a drowning pool of mental illness.