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Sophos Says IE8 IS Affected

A

Alias

Flightless Bird
Al Smith wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>> Roland Schweiger wrote:
>>> "Alias"
>>>> Just curious, how are you able to interpret a warning about virus
>>>> attacks as hating Microsoft? This is a leap of logic. Being as you
>>>> per your signature, you hate everybody, you're not one to be
>>>> lecturing anyone on hate, sonny.
>>>
>>> Because
>>>
>>> 1.
>>> Most virus-warnings are complete nonsense and do not affect anyone at
>>> all.
>>>
>>> 2.
>>> A so-called "virus" is not the fault of any OS or browser or platform
>>> or whatsoever.
>>> If i wanted to harm someone, i could write some kind of MalWare for
>>> ANY OPERATING SYSTEM.
>>>
>>> 3.
>>> The recomendation for using other browsers instead of IE "because they
>>> are safer" is simply blunt primitive publicity and we certainly get
>>> the feeling here that you just hate MS products, because they are so
>>> good and so easy to use and integrate.
>>> full stop.
>>>

>>
>> More leaps of logic. This seems to be a flaw that a lot of Windows users
>> have that post to news groups.
>>

>
>
> I just deactivated Internet Explorer 8 in my new Windows 7 computer.
> Easy to do, and I never use it anyway. This should prevent it from
> starting up on its own, as it likes to do from time to time. Everything
> I've read on the Net says that Internet Explorer is more dangerous than
> other browsers, simply because so much malware is designed to exploit IE.
>
> -Al-


And IE is an integral component of Windows.

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N

NY Teacher

Flightless Bird
"Alias" <Alias@nospam.com.invalid> wrote in message
news:hiuvel$vrg$2@news.eternal-september.org...
> NY Teacher wrote:
>> "Alias" <Alias@nospam.com.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:hitjb0$lpk$2@news.eternal-september.org...
>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8463516.stm
>>>
>>> From the article:
>>>
>>> "Graham Cluley of anti-virus firm Sophos, told BBC News that not only
>>> did the warning apply to 6, 7 and 8 of the browser, but the instructions
>>> on how to exploit the flaw had been posted on the internet."
>>>
>>> --
>>> Alias

>>
>>
>> We get it, you don't like Microsoft.

>
> No, you don't get it. It's a warning and if you use Internet Explorer, you
> should take heed.


Consider us warned then.

Since you won't drop it, consider yourself PLONKED, jackass.



>
>> Here's an idea for you...ue something else. And shut up.
>>
>>
>> NYT

>
> You're a teacher? What do you teach, physical education?


History, and I am very good at it. National awards. Why? You want to
judge me on how I type and converse on a Usenet forum? There is a
difference between the professional persona and the "at home reading what a
jack ass says on Usenet and feeling like replying but too lazy at home to
use spell chack" persona.

What do you do for a living except jack off watching Apple commercials that
attack Microsoft?

NYT


>
> --
> Alias
 
A

Alias

Flightless Bird
Death wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>
>> Roland Schweiger wrote:
>>> "Alias"
>>>> Just curious, how are you able to interpret a warning about virus
>>>> attacks as hating Microsoft? This is a leap of logic. Being as you per
>>>> your signature, you hate everybody, you're not one to be lecturing
>>>> anyone on hate, sonny.
>>> Because
>>>
>>> 1.
>>> Most virus-warnings are complete nonsense and do not affect anyone at all.
>>>
>>> 2.
>>> A so-called "virus" is not the fault of any OS or browser or platform or
>>> whatsoever.
>>> If i wanted to harm someone, i could write some kind of MalWare for ANY
>>> OPERATING SYSTEM.
>>>
>>> 3.
>>> The recomendation for using other browsers instead of IE "because they
>>> are safer" is simply blunt primitive publicity and we certainly get the
>>> feeling here that you just hate MS products, because they are so good
>>> and so easy to use and integrate.
>>> full stop.
>>>

>> More leaps of logic. This seems to be a flaw that a lot of Windows users
>> have that post to news groups.
>>

>
> I'm running IE8.
> Can you post how we can test this infection?
> I'd like to try it out.
>


Do your own research. I think Cnet has a link.

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Alias
 
E

Ezekiel

Flightless Bird
"DanS" <t.h.i.s.n.t.h.a.t@r.o.a.d.r.u.n.n.e.r.c.o.m> wrote in message
news:Xns9D035CA7DDF2Bthisnthatroadrunnern@216.196.97.131...
> Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:3vf5l599e9vhqudguvddqcnqhm6ed050r7@4ax.com:
>
>> Alias <Alias@nospam.com.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>"Graham Cluley of anti-virus firm Sophos, told BBC News that not only
>>>did the warning apply to 6, 7 and 8 of the browser, but the

> instructions
>>>on how to exploit the flaw had been posted on the internet."

>>
>>
>> IE is a piece of crap, anyway - Firefox is clearly better. The
>> security issues are only an extra reason not to use IE. That doesn't
>> mean the entire *operating system* isn't worth using, though. MS
>> hasn't punished me for ignoring IE on my machine. In fact, they have
>> a WGA plugin for Firefox, so I can get their "Genuine Windows only"
>> downloads with it.

>
> But you still use the IE HTML engine for.......
>
> .....reading .chm help files.
> .....using MS e-mail programs such as Windows Mail or Outlook.
> .....MS Help & Support Center.
> .....many third-party programs use the IE engine as well, like
> QuickBooks, or AutoCAD, they both show limited functionality browser
> windows.


That's correct. This is the entire argument of "Internet Explorer is part of
the OS" claim that Gates made about 10-15 years ago. The underlying engine
happens to be used in the web-browser but the underlying HTML engine is also
used for much more than just IE. If you simply yanked the entire engine out
of Windows then there are *lots* of apps and functionality that would quit
working.
 
D

Death

Flightless Bird
Alias wrote:

> Death wrote:
>> Alias wrote:
>>
>>> Roland Schweiger wrote:
>>>> "Alias"
>>>>> Just curious, how are you able to interpret a warning about virus
>>>>> attacks as hating Microsoft? This is a leap of logic. Being as you per
>>>>> your signature, you hate everybody, you're not one to be lecturing
>>>>> anyone on hate, sonny.
>>>> Because
>>>>
>>>> 1.
>>>> Most virus-warnings are complete nonsense and do not affect anyone at all.
>>>>
>>>> 2.
>>>> A so-called "virus" is not the fault of any OS or browser or platform or
>>>> whatsoever.
>>>> If i wanted to harm someone, i could write some kind of MalWare for ANY
>>>> OPERATING SYSTEM.
>>>>
>>>> 3.
>>>> The recomendation for using other browsers instead of IE "because they
>>>> are safer" is simply blunt primitive publicity and we certainly get the
>>>> feeling here that you just hate MS products, because they are so good
>>>> and so easy to use and integrate.
>>>> full stop.
>>>>
>>> More leaps of logic. This seems to be a flaw that a lot of Windows users
>>> have that post to news groups.
>>>

>>
>> I'm running IE8.
>> Can you post how we can test this infection?
>> I'd like to try it out.
>>

>
> Do your own research. I think Cnet has a link.
>


I thought you were the IE expert and expert on various things MS
related.
Don't tell me your expertise is googling MS sucks.

I find Firefox sucks.
Would't use that piece of shit if IE was on fire.


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Vita brevis breviter in brevi finietur,
Mors venit velociter quae neminem veretur.
 
L

Lee Waun

Flightless Bird
"NY Teacher" <nyteacher@goschool.com> wrote in message
news:hiv71k$pdr$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>
> "Alias" <Alias@nospam.com.invalid> wrote in message
> news:hiuvel$vrg$2@news.eternal-september.org...
>> NY Teacher wrote:
>>> "Alias" <Alias@nospam.com.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:hitjb0$lpk$2@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8463516.stm
>>>>
>>>> From the article:
>>>>
>>>> "Graham Cluley of anti-virus firm Sophos, told BBC News that not only
>>>> did the warning apply to 6, 7 and 8 of the browser, but the
>>>> instructions on how to exploit the flaw had been posted on the
>>>> internet."
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Alias
>>>
>>>
>>> We get it, you don't like Microsoft.

>>
>> No, you don't get it. It's a warning and if you use Internet Explorer,
>> you should take heed.

>
> Consider us warned then.
>
> Since you won't drop it, consider yourself PLONKED, jackass.
>
>
>
>>
>>> Here's an idea for you...ue something else. And shut up.
>>>
>>>
>>> NYT

>>
>> You're a teacher? What do you teach, physical education?

>
> History, and I am very good at it. National awards. Why? You want to
> judge me on how I type and converse on a Usenet forum? There is a
> difference between the professional persona and the "at home reading what
> a jack ass says on Usenet and feeling like replying but too lazy at home
> to use spell chack" persona.
>
> What do you do for a living except jack off watching Apple commercials
> that attack Microsoft?
>
> NYT


He doesn't work.

He just spends all his day posting how much he hates windows. He can post
that all he wants but no one is going to change their OS after reading his
drivel.
>
>
>>
>> --
>> Alias

>
>
 
A

Alias

Flightless Bird
Death wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>
>> Death wrote:
>>> Alias wrote:
>>>
>>>> Roland Schweiger wrote:
>>>>> "Alias"
>>>>>> Just curious, how are you able to interpret a warning about virus
>>>>>> attacks as hating Microsoft? This is a leap of logic. Being as you per
>>>>>> your signature, you hate everybody, you're not one to be lecturing
>>>>>> anyone on hate, sonny.
>>>>> Because
>>>>>
>>>>> 1.
>>>>> Most virus-warnings are complete nonsense and do not affect anyone at all.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2.
>>>>> A so-called "virus" is not the fault of any OS or browser or platform or
>>>>> whatsoever.
>>>>> If i wanted to harm someone, i could write some kind of MalWare for ANY
>>>>> OPERATING SYSTEM.
>>>>>
>>>>> 3.
>>>>> The recomendation for using other browsers instead of IE "because they
>>>>> are safer" is simply blunt primitive publicity and we certainly get the
>>>>> feeling here that you just hate MS products, because they are so good
>>>>> and so easy to use and integrate.
>>>>> full stop.
>>>>>
>>>> More leaps of logic. This seems to be a flaw that a lot of Windows users
>>>> have that post to news groups.
>>>>
>>> I'm running IE8.
>>> Can you post how we can test this infection?
>>> I'd like to try it out.
>>>

>> Do your own research. I think Cnet has a link.
>>

>
> I thought you were the IE expert and expert on various things MS
> related.


I never said any such thing.

> Don't tell me your expertise is googling MS sucks.


Are you living under a rock? This story is on every tech web site and
even USA Today.

>
> I find Firefox sucks.
> Would't use that piece of shit if IE was on fire.
>
>


Figures. You probably like the clicking IE does.

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Alias
 
A

Alias

Flightless Bird
Lee Waun wrote:
>
> "NY Teacher" <nyteacher@goschool.com> wrote in message
> news:hiv71k$pdr$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>
>> "Alias" <Alias@nospam.com.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:hiuvel$vrg$2@news.eternal-september.org...
>>> NY Teacher wrote:
>>>> "Alias" <Alias@nospam.com.invalid> wrote in message
>>>> news:hitjb0$lpk$2@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8463516.stm
>>>>>
>>>>> From the article:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Graham Cluley of anti-virus firm Sophos, told BBC News that not
>>>>> only did the warning apply to 6, 7 and 8 of the browser, but the
>>>>> instructions on how to exploit the flaw had been posted on the
>>>>> internet."
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Alias
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We get it, you don't like Microsoft.
>>>
>>> No, you don't get it. It's a warning and if you use Internet
>>> Explorer, you should take heed.

>>
>> Consider us warned then.
>>
>> Since you won't drop it, consider yourself PLONKED, jackass.
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>> Here's an idea for you...ue something else. And shut up.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> NYT
>>>
>>> You're a teacher? What do you teach, physical education?

>>
>> History, and I am very good at it. National awards. Why? You want
>> to judge me on how I type and converse on a Usenet forum? There is a
>> difference between the professional persona and the "at home reading
>> what a jack ass says on Usenet and feeling like replying but too lazy
>> at home to use spell chack" persona.
>>
>> What do you do for a living except jack off watching Apple commercials
>> that attack Microsoft?
>>
>> NYT

>
> He doesn't work.


A lie.

>
> He just spends all his day posting how much he hates windows.


A lie.

He can
> post that all he wants but no one is going to change their OS after
> reading his drivel.


And, yes folks, another lie.

When someone resorts to lies you know they've been totally refuted and
out classed.

--
Alias
 
D

Death

Flightless Bird
Lee Waun wrote:

>

SNIP
>
> He doesn't work.
>


He makes $14,000/week supposedly.

Hahaha.

Yet he rides the bus and "installs" ubuntu for either a few clients, or
thousands of clients, depending on what story he is currently able to
remember.

It's widely believed that he landed on his head from an inopportune fall
from the second floor of a "hashish distribution center".

> He just spends all his day posting how much he hates windows. He can post
> that all he wants but no one is going to change their OS after reading his
> drivel.
>>





--

Vita brevis breviter in brevi finietur,
Mors venit velociter quae neminem veretur.
 
D

Death

Flightless Bird
Alias wrote:

> Death wrote:
>> Alias wrote:
>>
>>> Death wrote:
>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Roland Schweiger wrote:
>>>>>> "Alias"
>>>>>>> Just curious, how are you able to interpret a warning about virus
>>>>>>> attacks as hating Microsoft? This is a leap of logic. Being as you per
>>>>>>> your signature, you hate everybody, you're not one to be lecturing
>>>>>>> anyone on hate, sonny.
>>>>>> Because
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1.
>>>>>> Most virus-warnings are complete nonsense and do not affect anyone at all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2.
>>>>>> A so-called "virus" is not the fault of any OS or browser or platform or
>>>>>> whatsoever.
>>>>>> If i wanted to harm someone, i could write some kind of MalWare for ANY
>>>>>> OPERATING SYSTEM.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3.
>>>>>> The recomendation for using other browsers instead of IE "because they
>>>>>> are safer" is simply blunt primitive publicity and we certainly get the
>>>>>> feeling here that you just hate MS products, because they are so good
>>>>>> and so easy to use and integrate.
>>>>>> full stop.
>>>>>>
>>>>> More leaps of logic. This seems to be a flaw that a lot of Windows users
>>>>> have that post to news groups.
>>>>>
>>>> I'm running IE8.
>>>> Can you post how we can test this infection?
>>>> I'd like to try it out.
>>>>
>>> Do your own research. I think Cnet has a link.
>>>

>>
>> I thought you were the IE expert and expert on various things MS
>> related.

>
> I never said any such thing.
>


You said "Don't use it".
Were you referring to Google or me?
You should give some advise to Google.

>> Don't tell me your expertise is googling MS sucks.

>
> Are you living under a rock? This story is on every tech web site and
> even USA Today.
>


I don't read that stuff.
I prefer learning the hard way.

>>
>> I find Firefox sucks.
>> Would't use that piece of shit if IE was on fire.
>>
>>

>
> Figures. You probably like the clicking IE does.
>


I do.

--

Vita brevis breviter in brevi finietur,
Mors venit velociter quae neminem veretur.
 
F

Frank

Flightless Bird
cody, aka alias the LIAR is at it again!

Alias wrote:
> Lee Waun wrote:
>>
>> "NY Teacher" <nyteacher@goschool.com> wrote in message
>> news:hiv71k$pdr$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>
>>> "Alias" <Alias@nospam.com.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:hiuvel$vrg$2@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>> NY Teacher wrote:
>>>>> "Alias" <Alias@nospam.com.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>> news:hitjb0$lpk$2@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8463516.stm
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From the article:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Graham Cluley of anti-virus firm Sophos, told BBC News that not
>>>>>> only did the warning apply to 6, 7 and 8 of the browser, but the
>>>>>> instructions on how to exploit the flaw had been posted on the
>>>>>> internet."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Alias
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> We get it, you don't like Microsoft.
>>>>
>>>> No, you don't get it. It's a warning and if you use Internet
>>>> Explorer, you should take heed.
>>>
>>> Consider us warned then.
>>>
>>> Since you won't drop it, consider yourself PLONKED, jackass.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Here's an idea for you...ue something else. And shut up.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> NYT
>>>>
>>>> You're a teacher? What do you teach, physical education?
>>>
>>> History, and I am very good at it. National awards. Why? You want
>>> to judge me on how I type and converse on a Usenet forum? There is a
>>> difference between the professional persona and the "at home reading
>>> what a jack ass says on Usenet and feeling like replying but too lazy
>>> at home to use spell chack" persona.
>>>
>>> What do you do for a living except jack off watching Apple
>>> commercials that attack Microsoft?
>>>
>>> NYT

>>
>> He doesn't work.

>
> A lie.
>
>>
>> He just spends all his day posting how much he hates windows.

>
> A lie.
>
> He can
>> post that all he wants but no one is going to change their OS after
>> reading his drivel.

>
> And, yes folks, another lie.
>
> When someone resorts to lies you know they've been totally refuted and
> out classed.
>


Well cody, aka alias the LIAR, you can't keep your big lying stupid
mouth shut can you?
You only dig deeper into that abyss of lies you call your life.
Print this out and have a responsible adult explain it to you.

#1 lie from cody, aka cody, aka alias is:
pushing linux as an alternative to Windows 7 in this Windows 7 ng is "on
topic"...Hahahahaha...YOU SICK FUCK!!!
#2 lie from cody, aka alias is:
...."I do not spam this ng with ubuntu spam"
#3 lie from cody, aka alias is::
...."I am not trolling this Windows 7 ng with linux/ubuntu
bullshit"...Hahaha!
#4 lie from cody, aka alias is:
...."I make $14,000 per week"...Hahahaha...you lying sick FUCK!
#5 lie from cody, aka alias is:
...."I was in the 101st U.S. Army Airborne Division"...Hahaha!
#6 lie from cody, aka alias is:...
I am not a liar"!...Hahaha!
Now post your lying response here *sport* --->
 
F

Frank

Flightless Bird
hey cody...got any more lies?

Well cody, aka alias the LIAR, you can't keep your big lying stupid
mouth shut can you?
You only dig deeper into that abyss of lies you call your life.
Print this out and have a responsible adult explain it to you.

#1 lie from cody, aka cody, aka alias is:
pushing linux as an alternative to Windows 7 in this Windows 7 ng is "on
topic"...Hahahahaha...YOU SICK FUCK!!!
#2 lie from cody, aka alias is:
...."I do not spam this ng with ubuntu spam"
#3 lie from cody, aka alias is::
...."I am not trolling this Windows 7 ng with linux/ubuntu
bullshit"...Hahaha!
#4 lie from cody, aka alias is:
...."I make $14,000 per week"...Hahahaha...you lying sick FUCK!
#5 lie from cody, aka alias is:
...."I was in the 101st U.S. Army Airborne Division"...Hahaha!
#6 lie from cody, aka alias is:...
I am not a liar"!...Hahaha!
Now post your lying response here *sport* --->
 
A

Alias

Flightless Bird
Re: hey cody...got any more lies?

Frank wrote:
> Well cody, aka alias the LIAR, you can't keep your big lying stupid
> mouth shut can you?
> You only dig deeper into that abyss of lies you call your life.
> Print this out and have a responsible adult explain it to you.
>
> #1 lie from cody, aka cody, aka alias is:
> pushing linux as an alternative to Windows 7 in this Windows 7 ng is "on
> topic"...Hahahahaha...YOU SICK FUCK!!!
> #2 lie from cody, aka alias is:
> ..."I do not spam this ng with ubuntu spam"
> #3 lie from cody, aka alias is::
> ..."I am not trolling this Windows 7 ng with linux/ubuntu
> bullshit"...Hahaha!
> #4 lie from cody, aka alias is:
> ..."I make $14,000 per week"...Hahahaha...you lying sick FUCK!
> #5 lie from cody, aka alias is:
> ..."I was in the 101st U.S. Army Airborne Division"...Hahaha!
> #6 lie from cody, aka alias is:...
> I am not a liar"!...Hahaha!
> Now post your lying response here *sport* --->


For some reason the Frankenmonster thinks that the above lies of his are
some kind of proof of something. All you're doing with this knee jerk
nonsense is making a fool out of yourself again and again and again. But
keep it up, Frankie boy, it's fun to watch you dance like a little monkey.

--
Alias
 
J

Joel

Flightless Bird
"NY Teacher" <nyteacher@goschool.com> wrote:

>Regarding the double space, this comes straight from:
>http://desktoppub.about.com/cs/typespacing/a/onetwospaces.htm
>
>"The Bottomline: Professional typesetters, designers, and desktop publishers
>should use one space only. Save the double spaces for typewriting, email,
>term papers (if prescribed by the style guide you are using), or personal
>correspondence. For everyone else, do whatever makes you feel good."
>
>Seems like "the norm" you follow isn't a "norm" for this forum after all.



Interesting link. I've always used two spaces after sentences, and
now I feel pretty justified. I use a monospaced font in my
newsreader, and some people use non-graphical displays for reading
these groups.

--
Joel Crump
 
J

Joel

Flightless Bird
DanS <t.h.i.s.n.t.h.a.t@r.o.a.d.r.u.n.n.e.r.c.o.m> wrote:

>> IE is a piece of crap, anyway - Firefox is clearly better. The
>> security issues are only an extra reason not to use IE. That doesn't
>> mean the entire *operating system* isn't worth using, though. MS
>> hasn't punished me for ignoring IE on my machine. In fact, they have
>> a WGA plugin for Firefox, so I can get their "Genuine Windows only"
>> downloads with it.

>
>But you still use the IE HTML engine for.......
>
>.....reading .chm help files.
>.....using MS e-mail programs such as Windows Mail or Outlook.
>.....MS Help & Support Center.
>.....many third-party programs use the IE engine as well, like
>QuickBooks, or AutoCAD, they both show limited functionality browser
>windows.



I suppose in the case of WLMail, I am taking an infinitesimal risk.
I'd be much, much more concerned about actual browsing with IE
(which is to say, not really *that* much more concerned than with any
browser - they all need to be kept up-to-date),
though, since that involves clicking on links that I wouldn't have
much idea about beforehand.

But I still feel that the best reason to use Firefox is its better
performance, and smoother design (although, others may prefer the feel
of IE, and that's the beauty of choice).

--
Joel Crump
 
F

Frank

Flightless Bird
Re: hey cody...got any more lies?

Well cody, aka alias the LIAR, you can't keep your big lying stupid
mouth shut can you?
You only dig deeper into that abyss of lies you call your life.
Print this out and have a responsible adult explain it to you.

#1 lie from cody, aka cody, aka alias is:
pushing linux as an alternative to Windows 7 in this Windows 7 ng is "on
topic"...Hahahahaha...YOU SICK FUCK!!!
#2 lie from cody, aka alias is:
...."I do not spam this ng with ubuntu spam"
#3 lie from cody, aka alias is::
...."I am not trolling this Windows 7 ng with linux/ubuntu
bullshit"...Hahaha!
#4 lie from cody, aka alias is:
...."I make $14,000 per week"...Hahahaha...you lying sick FUCK!
#5 lie from cody, aka alias is:
...."I was in the 101st U.S. Army Airborne Division"...Hahaha!
#6 lie from cody, aka alias is:...
I am not a liar"!...Hahaha!

Oops! He did it again!...LOL!
Now post your lying response here *sport* --->
 
T

thanatoid

Flightless Bird
"NY Teacher" <nyteacher@goschool.com> wrote in
news:hiv6qk$ok9$1@news.eternal-september.org:

> "thanatoid" <waiting@the.exit.invalid> wrote in message
> news:Xns9D02EDA3FC284thanexit@188.40.43.245...
>> "NY Teacher" <nyteacher@goschool.com> wrote in
>> news:hits2h$b02$1@news.eternal-september.org:
>>
>> <SNIP>
>>
>>> We get it, you don't like Microsoft. Here's an idea for
>>> you...ue something else. And shut up.

>>
>> Great spelling, teach! Never mind the "ue", didn't anyone
>> ever tell you that since typewriters were replaced by
>> computers, two spaces after a period are no longer the
>> norm? And there was ALWAYS a space before ANYTHING
>> following "..."
>>
>> SIGH.

>
> Thanks for the information. It amazes me that people think
> teachers need to be "on" 24-7-365, always spelling
> everything correctly and always using the latest in typing
> norms, etc. Hey asshole, it is my day off and it is not
> worth my time to proofread a simple Usenet post.


Hey asshole, ever heard of spell-checkers? And do you habitually
(look it up) turn off your brain when you are not corrupting and
brainwashing your victims in school?

> The "ue" and the missing space after the ellipsis were
> simple typos. No one should ever be criticized for a typo
> except for formal reports.


Nothing like high standards. Your students must get into a lot
of good universities, huh?

And /I/ criticize /everything/. I am a thanatoid.

> Regarding the double space, this comes straight from:
> http://desktoppub.about.com/cs/typespacing/a/onetwospaces.ht
> m
>
> "The Bottomline: Professional typesetters, designers, and
> desktop publishers should use one space only. Save the
> double spaces for typewriting, email, term papers (if
> prescribed by the style guide you are using), or personal
> correspondence. For everyone else, do whatever makes you
> feel good."


I didn't want to go into details, but I'm glad you had a chance
to educate yourself a little in your "brain on off" time.
Anyway, that's basically correct. But Usenet is NOT email,
especially if you use Outlook Express like you do, and something
tells me you do NOT have it set to a non-proportional font (look
it up), but the default, whatever it may be. But since MS chose
it for you, it must be good, right, teach?

> Seems like "the norm" you follow isn't a "norm" for this
> forum after all.


There no more norms. If a Hitler was in power worldwide, or when
NWO takes over, there may be norms, non-adherence to which may
be punishable by death. For now, I have /my/ norms, so fuck you.
Notwithstanding, you are free to follow your own norms, however
misguided and ignorant (original meaning, look it up) they may
be.

> Now, do you want to engage in a conversation about
> something that really matters, or are you the kind of
> person who only gets his/her rocks off by blindly
> criticizing others?


Come up with an interesting subject and let's go. Just leave MS
out of it since we already know you are a bleating sheep when it
comes to computers.


--
There are only two classifications of disk drives: Broken drives
and those that will break later.
- Chuck Armstrong (This one I think, http://www.cleanreg.com/,
not the ball player. But who knows. I can't remember where I got
the quote. But it's true.)
 
T

thanatoid

Flightless Bird
Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in
news:u9m6l5dop8be35o00t7r2j2umd1oat432t@4ax.com:

> "NY Teacher" <nyteacher@goschool.com> wrote:


>>http://desktoppub.about.com/cs/typespacing/a/onetwospaces.htm


<SNIP>

> Interesting link. I've always used two spaces after
> sentences, and now I feel pretty justified.


Nice pun. Get it?

> I use a
> monospaced font in my newsreader, and some people use
> non-graphical displays for reading these groups.


Most people except for Outlook Express sheep do, but that wasn't
the point.



--
There are only two classifications of disk drives: Broken drives
and those that will break later.
- Chuck Armstrong (This one I think, http://www.cleanreg.com/,
not the ball player. But who knows. I can't remember where I got
the quote. But it's true.)
 
N

NY Teacher

Flightless Bird
"thanatoid" <waiting@the.exit.invalid> wrote in message
news:Xns9D03910D0AD4Bthanexit@188.40.43.245...
> "NY Teacher" <nyteacher@goschool.com> wrote in
> news:hiv6qk$ok9$1@news.eternal-september.org:
>
>> "thanatoid" <waiting@the.exit.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:Xns9D02EDA3FC284thanexit@188.40.43.245...
>>> "NY Teacher" <nyteacher@goschool.com> wrote in
>>> news:hits2h$b02$1@news.eternal-september.org:
>>>
>>> <SNIP>
>>>
>>>> We get it, you don't like Microsoft. Here's an idea for
>>>> you...ue something else. And shut up.
>>>
>>> Great spelling, teach! Never mind the "ue", didn't anyone
>>> ever tell you that since typewriters were replaced by
>>> computers, two spaces after a period are no longer the
>>> norm? And there was ALWAYS a space before ANYTHING
>>> following "..."
>>>
>>> SIGH.

>>
>> Thanks for the information. It amazes me that people think
>> teachers need to be "on" 24-7-365, always spelling
>> everything correctly and always using the latest in typing
>> norms, etc. Hey asshole, it is my day off and it is not
>> worth my time to proofread a simple Usenet post.

>
> Hey asshole, ever heard of spell-checkers? And do you habitually
> (look it up) turn off your brain when you are not corrupting and
> brainwashing your victims in school?


Yep, I use spell checkers on important things, not Usenet.
And it is not that I turn off my brain when away from school, it is merely
that I don't feel the need to be perfect anymore.
If I thought you knew anything about me, or if I thought you were a person
whose opinion was worthy of anything, I would hurt by your assessment of my
teaching abilities. Since neither is the case, you are accomplishing
nothing (except coming dangerously close to libelous defamation) other than
wasting your time and mine. I care greatly for my students, even the
belligerent ignorant assholes like you. They all leave my class more
educated and more talented than when they enter, and they all leave with a
newfound appreciation for history. I make more difference for the good of
the world in one day than you have likely made in your entire life.


>
>> The "ue" and the missing space after the ellipsis were
>> simple typos. No one should ever be criticized for a typo
>> except for formal reports.

>
> Nothing like high standards. Your students must get into a lot
> of good universities, huh?


Yes, they do. One of my proudest moments as a teacher was when a first
generation American came back from Princeton after her junior year and
thanked me, saying she wouldn't have made it there without my help. She's a
pediatric surgeon now.

As I said before and you didn't comprehend, there is a difference between at
home and at school. When at school I have high standards for the written
word...when at home I couldn't care less. To put it into a situation you
will understand: When you are at home, your wife holds you to low standards
of sexual performance based on what little she knows you can do, while when
you are away she expects much more from her men.


>
> And /I/ criticize /everything/. I am a thanatoid.


That makes you a critic. As Theodore Roosevelt said, quite rightly, "It is
not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man
stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit
belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by
dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short
again and again; because there is not effort without error and shortcomings;
but who does actually strive to do the deed; who knows the great enthusiasm,
the great devotion, who spends himself in a worthy cause, who at the best
knows in the end the triumph of high achievement and who at the worst, if he
fails, at least he fails while daring greatly. So that his place shall never
be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat." Go
to hell, critic.

>
>> Regarding the double space, this comes straight from:
>> http://desktoppub.about.com/cs/typespacing/a/onetwospaces.ht
>> m
>>
>> "The Bottomline: Professional typesetters, designers, and
>> desktop publishers should use one space only. Save the
>> double spaces for typewriting, email, term papers (if
>> prescribed by the style guide you are using), or personal
>> correspondence. For everyone else, do whatever makes you
>> feel good."

>
> I didn't want to go into details, but I'm glad you had a chance
> to educate yourself a little in your "brain on off" time.


It's actually something I have known for a long time.


> Anyway, that's basically correct. But Usenet is NOT email,


No, but it is personal correspondence. And it makes me feel good, not
fighting the muscle memory from two and a half Masters' degrees worth of
papers and essays. And now, since I know it annoys you and your little mind
so much, it gives me great pleasure to double space my hard stops. So
there.


> especially if you use Outlook Express like you do, and something
> tells me you do NOT have it set to a non-proportional font (look
> it up), but the default, whatever it may be. But since MS chose
> it for you, it must be good, right, teach?


Actually one of the things I dislike about MS is that they make it harder
and harder to tweak settings. I remember spending many hours experimenting
and trying to squeeze just a little bit more available conventional memory
from DOS. That was back when I was really into computers. Now I am just a
power user. Even if I double space.


>
>> Seems like "the norm" you follow isn't a "norm" for this
>> forum after all.

>
> There no more norms.


And you criticize my grammar? Ever heard of a verb? Look it up.


If a Hitler was in power worldwide, or when
> NWO takes over, there may be norms, non-adherence to which may
> be punishable by death. For now, I have /my/ norms, so fuck you.


You wish. Sorry, I don't swing that way.


> Notwithstanding, you are free to follow your own norms, however
> misguided and ignorant (original meaning, look it up) they may
> be.


Thanks for your permission. So, in addition to being a world-class jerk, you
are an arrogant one too, thinking I need your permission to do things. I
normally like arrogance, but you have shown nothing to back it up.


>
>> Now, do you want to engage in a conversation about
>> something that really matters, or are you the kind of
>> person who only gets his/her rocks off by blindly
>> criticizing others?

>
> Come up with an interesting subject and let's go.


Okay, how about the proper US response to the tragedy in Haiti?
How about the lack of a bargaining agreement in the NFL?
How about the whole Leno-Conan situation?

All of which are more important than how someone spaces his or her
posts on a usenet forum.


Just leave MS
> out of it since we already know you are a bleating sheep when it
> comes to computers.


Actually, you know nothing about my hardware and software preferences. You
assume too much.

I do find it interesting that in one sentence you ask to fuck me and in the
other you call me a sheep. LOL That says so much about you.

NYT
 
J

Joel

Flightless Bird
thanatoid <waiting@the.exit.invalid> wrote:
>Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in
>news:u9m6l5dop8be35o00t7r2j2umd1oat432t@4ax.com:
>> "NY Teacher" <nyteacher@goschool.com> wrote:

>
>>>http://desktoppub.about.com/cs/typespacing/a/onetwospaces.htm

>
>> Interesting link. I've always used two spaces after
>> sentences, and now I feel pretty justified.

>
>Nice pun. Get it?



Heh, not genuinely contextual, but amusing, yes.


>> I use a
>> monospaced font in my newsreader, and some people use
>> non-graphical displays for reading these groups.

>
>Most people except for Outlook Express sheep do, but that wasn't
>the point.



Well, I was replying to NY Teacher - not intending to comment on your
point one way or another.

--
Joel Crump
 
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