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OT: Missing MVP's

K

Ken Blake, MVP

Flightless Bird
On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 13:45:19 -0600, "Bill in Co"
<surly_curmudgeon@earthlink.net> wrote:

>
>
> Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
> > On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 23:07:31 -0600, "Bill in Co"
> > <surly_curmudgeon@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
> >>> On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 17:11:13 +0100, "Urlay Nook"
> >>> <UrlayBurlay@TheNook.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Hello
> >>>> I've noticed on this group (and on the XP group) that a lot of MVP's
> >>>> replies
> >>>> no longer appear.
> >>>> For instance Winston on the WLM group and PA Bear and Shenan Stanley on
> >>>> >> the XP group.
> >>>> Replies from them are included in further questions but I never see
> >>>> there
> >>>> original reply.
> >>>> Have the MVP's gone to the forums.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Many of us have gone to the forums. But some of us are also still here
> >>> (at least for a while longer).
> >>
> >> But I don't understand why anyone would choose to leave this NNTP based
> >> format if most of us still have access to these newsgroups on another
> >> server.
> >
> >
> > Two reasons:
> >
> > 1. Because, without their being Microsoft newsgroups, traffic gets
> > lower and lower (which is already happening on many of these
> > newsgroups). As that happens, it's not worth the time and effort to
> > periodically check and find there's nothing there.
> >
> > 2. The existing newsgroups cover no version of Windows past Vista. As
> > more and more people move to Windows 7, there are fewer and fewer
> > questions about the older versions. Not to mention that my skills with
> > the older versions I no longer use get poorer and poorer as time goes
> > on, and I forget their details. It's the same reason I haven't
> > participated in Windows 98 newsgroups for a *long* time.
> >
> >
> >> It just seems to me to be a much better format for these specific
> >> topic discussions than the web-based forums are.
> >
> >
> > Absolutely! I'm with you 100%. Unfortunately Microsoft disagrees with
> > us.
> >
> >
> >> I guess the only good reason I can think of ... is for discussions of the
> >> newer operating systems and applications that are coming out, since there
> >> won't be any newly created microsoft newsgroups anymore, right?
> >
> >
> > Right (see my point 2 above).
>
> OK, and thanks for the insights, Ken.


You're welcome. Glad to help.


--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
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S

Sunny

Flightless Bird
Re: Missing MVP's

Thanks, so it is a "nothing" word :)
Here in Australia the term most commonly used is "bullshit"


"Art [artfudd] Folden" <noone@nothere.ca> wrote in message
news:eeJZNL$OLHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> "What is "Aesopian" ?"
>
> It is a word used by people who wish to convey that they think they know
> more than the average bear, or otherwise convey that the referred to
> commentary is somewhat ambiguous. :)
>
> Art [artfudd] Folden
> --
> "Sunny" wrote in message
> news:Y3r9o.3548$Yv.3000@viwinnwfe01.internal.bigpond.com...
>
>
> "Nancy Jackman" <nanwjackman@beaufort.com> wrote in message
> news:eEB44g2OLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Addition to my last:
>>
>> O.K.
>>
>> I looked at it.
>>
>> But it seems to require logging in with a Windows Live Mail ID to a
>> "special" server.
>>
>> No?
>>
>> If so, why would anyone want to do that and open oneself up to all
>> sorts of
>> invasive techniques by hackers and government agents.
>>
>> Do you REALLY think the General Public is so GULLIBLE?
>>
>> Well, SOME folks certainly ARE. So you DO have some evidence for their
>> gullibility.
>>
>> Microsoft even has a disclaimer that tells us the "Community Forums
>> NNTP
>> bridge" is not really a MS product -- or you're logging into a SERVER
>> that
>> is NOT a MS APPLICATION....
>>
>> Or something of the sort...
>>
>> It's Aesopian.
>
> What is "Aesopian" ?
>
>
>>
>> Someone at MS should learn to be a better MARKETER...
>>
>> With TRANSPARENCY.
>>
>> Nancy
>
 
D

Db

Flightless Bird
perhaps you should switch
from ellen degenerous to
opera.

you might win a car.

--
--
db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>

DatabaseBen, Retired Professional

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
This NNTP newsgroup is evolving to:

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/default.aspx


"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message news:#J1Gvf$OLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> I smell fish.
>
> Db wrote:
>> the problem with following
>> anyone is that you would
>> have to smell what they
>> walk away from.
>>
>> --
>>
>> "Urlay Nook" <UrlayBurlay@TheNook.com> wrote in message
>> news:-O6S5qIwOLHA.5064@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> Hello
>>> I've noticed on this group (and on the XP group) that a lot of MVP's
>>> replies no longer appear. For instance Winston on the WLM group and PA
>>> Bear and Shenan Stanley on the XP group. Replies from them are included in further questions but I never see there
>>> original reply. Have the MVP's gone to the forums.
>>> Do I need to go to the forums to follow them.
>>> John
>
 
D

Db

Flightless Bird
i meant oprah.

however, she is
a boring opera

--
--
db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>

DatabaseBen, Retired Professional

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
This NNTP newsgroup is evolving to:

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/default.aspx


"Db" <databaseb~@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:ec9wMgAPLHA.2104@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> perhaps you should switch
> from ellen degenerous to
> opera.
>
> you might win a car.
>
> --
> --
> db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>
>
> DatabaseBen, Retired Professional
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> This NNTP newsgroup is evolving to:
>
> http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/default.aspx
>
>
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message news:#J1Gvf$OLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> I smell fish.
>>
>> Db wrote:
>>> the problem with following
>>> anyone is that you would
>>> have to smell what they
>>> walk away from.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> "Urlay Nook" <UrlayBurlay@TheNook.com> wrote in message
>>> news:-O6S5qIwOLHA.5064@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> Hello
>>>> I've noticed on this group (and on the XP group) that a lot of MVP's
>>>> replies no longer appear. For instance Winston on the WLM group and PA
>>>> Bear and Shenan Stanley on the XP group. Replies from them are included in further questions but I never see there
>>>> original reply. Have the MVP's gone to the forums.
>>>> Do I need to go to the forums to follow them.
>>>> John
>>
 
P

PA Bear [MS MVP]

Flightless Bird
glee wrote:
<snip>
> I stopped posting via the forums because I was not getting notifications
> of replies

See "How do I manage the settings of my alerts?"
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/help

Make sure that the emails aren't being filtered to your spamtrap/spam
folder.

> ...no one posting seemed to be able to find their posts for
> follow-up

I'd say that well over 50% of my OPs find their way back. Some even finish
the thread!

> ...and posts were being 'marked as the answer' that did not
> resolve the poster's issue...

The MS-paid idiots are getting much better at not doing that.
Unfortunately, it looks like their current contract requires a post by one
of them in every thread within 24 hours of OP's first post...even if they're
repeating what someone else has already posted or something that has nothing
to do with OP's post (e.g., tips for Win7 when OP stated XP). <sigh>
 
D

Don Dewiel

Flightless Bird
Re: Missing MVP's

But, but..... even "Bullshit" has a useful purpose: "(literally) The feces
of a bull."
--
Don

"Sunny" <wombathouse@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
news:G_E9o.3598$Yv.40@viwinnwfe01.internal.bigpond.com...
> Thanks, so it is a "nothing" word :)
> Here in Australia the term most commonly used is "bullshit"
>
>
> "Art [artfudd] Folden" <noone@nothere.ca> wrote in message
> news:eeJZNL$OLHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> "What is "Aesopian" ?"
>>
>> It is a word used by people who wish to convey that they think they know
>> more than the average bear, or otherwise convey that the referred to
>> commentary is somewhat ambiguous. :)
>>
>> Art [artfudd] Folden
>> --
>> "Sunny" wrote in message
>> news:Y3r9o.3548$Yv.3000@viwinnwfe01.internal.bigpond.com...
>>
>>
>> "Nancy Jackman" <nanwjackman@beaufort.com> wrote in message
>> news:eEB44g2OLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> Addition to my last:
>>>
>>> O.K.
>>>
>>> I looked at it.
>>>
>>> But it seems to require logging in with a Windows Live Mail ID to a
>>> "special" server.
>>>
>>> No?
>>>
>>> If so, why would anyone want to do that and open oneself up to all sorts
>>> of
>>> invasive techniques by hackers and government agents.
>>>
>>> Do you REALLY think the General Public is so GULLIBLE?
>>>
>>> Well, SOME folks certainly ARE. So you DO have some evidence for their
>>> gullibility.
>>>
>>> Microsoft even has a disclaimer that tells us the "Community Forums NNTP
>>> bridge" is not really a MS product -- or you're logging into a SERVER
>>> that
>>> is NOT a MS APPLICATION....
>>>
>>> Or something of the sort...
>>>
>>> It's Aesopian.
>>
>> What is "Aesopian" ?
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Someone at MS should learn to be a better MARKETER...
>>>
>>> With TRANSPARENCY.
>>>
>>> Nancy
>>
>
>
 
L

~*Laughingstar*~

Flightless Bird
Bruce Hagen wrote:
>> Put Reply Group on the toolbar.

;-))

You can be reading the message in the
>> Reading Pane or in its own window and Reply Group will send the
>> reply to the newsgroup. Reply is meant to go to the sender only and
>> most people munge their address anyway. I don't even keep the Reply
>> button on the toolbar to avoid a mistake.
>> --
>> Bruce Hagen
>> MS-MVP [Mail]
>> Imperial Beach, CA
>>
>>
>> "Richard Schimelfenig" <rschimel@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:%23uTL8UyOLHA.2104@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> I think you've defined another bug ...er ... feature of WLM.
>>>
>>> If you hit reply while IN the message from a newsgroup, it ONLY
>>> goes to the person who sent it and not the group. As far as I can
>>> tell (and yes, I tried all the usual keypresses) is that is the
>>> only way to respond to the group - exit the message and reply to
>>> group from the list without opening the message.
>>>
>>> Sucks.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Urlay Nook" wrote in message
>>> news:-O6S5qIwOLHA.5064@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>> Hello
>>> I've noticed on this group (and on the XP group) that a lot of MVP's
>>> replies
>>> no longer appear.
>>> For instance Winston on the WLM group and PA Bear and Shenan
>>> Stanley on the
>>> XP group.
>>> Replies from them are included in further questions but I never see
>>> there
>>> original reply.
>>> Have the MVP's gone to the forums.
>>> Do I need to go to the forums to follow them.
>>> John

--
~Ciao~
Cj.·´¯`:..><)))º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><)))º>

NJ State Dept of Health Polio Warning Wallet Card
http://pnnj.org/anesthesia/Anesthesia-Warning-Card.pdf (please pass
on)
 
L

~*Laughingstar*~

Flightless Bird
Cheng Heng wrote:
>> MVPs are a thing of the past and Microsoft has decided to abandon
>> them because they were completely useless and wasting unnecessary
>> time of customers who M$ had come to depend upon over the years.
>>
>> If you have any questions then by all means post them here and you
>> will get proper help from non MVPs who take pride in what they
>> do. MVPs are here because they are looking for some recognition
>> from good customers like you otherwise they won't be here. They
>> don't have any sex life either and some would say they are
>> asexual.
>>

;-D

>> Hope this helps.
>>
>>
>> Urlay Nook wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello
>>> I've noticed on this group (and on the XP group) that a lot of
>>> MVP's replies no longer appear.
>>> For instance Winston on the WLM group and PA Bear and Shenan
>>> Stanley on the XP group.
>>> Replies from them are included in further questions but I never see
>>> there original reply.
>>> Have the MVP's gone to the forums.
>>> Do I need to go to the forums to follow them.
>>> John

--
~Ciao~
Cj.·´¯`:..><)))º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><)))º>

NJ State Dept of Health Polio Warning Wallet Card
http://pnnj.org/anesthesia/Anesthesia-Warning-Card.pdf (please pass
on)
 
L

~*Laughingstar*~

Flightless Bird
Re: Missing MVP's

LMFAO


Art [artfudd] Folden wrote:
>> "What is "Aesopian" ?"
>>
>> It is a word used by people who wish to convey that they think they
>> know more than the average bear, or otherwise convey that the
>> referred to commentary is somewhat ambiguous. :)
>>
>> Art [artfudd] Folden
>> --
>> "Sunny" wrote in message
>> news:Y3r9o.3548$Yv.3000@viwinnwfe01.internal.bigpond.com...
>>
>>
>> "Nancy Jackman" <nanwjackman@beaufort.com> wrote in message
>> news:eEB44g2OLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> Addition to my last:
>>>
>>> O.K.
>>>
>>> I looked at it.
>>>
>>> But it seems to require logging in with a Windows Live Mail ID to a
>>> "special" server.
>>>
>>> No?
>>>
>>> If so, why would anyone want to do that and open oneself up to all
>>> sorts of
>>> invasive techniques by hackers and government agents.
>>>
>>> Do you REALLY think the General Public is so GULLIBLE?
>>>
>>> Well, SOME folks certainly ARE. So you DO have some evidence for
>>> their
>>> gullibility.
>>>
>>> Microsoft even has a disclaimer that tells us the "Community Forums
>>> NNTP
>>> bridge" is not really a MS product -- or you're logging into a
>>> SERVER that
>>> is NOT a MS APPLICATION....
>>>
>>> Or something of the sort...
>>>
>>> It's Aesopian.
>>
>> What is "Aesopian" ?
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Someone at MS should learn to be a better MARKETER...
>>>
>>> With TRANSPARENCY.
>>>
>>> Nancy

--
~Ciao~
Cj.·´¯`:..><)))º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><)))º>

NJ State Dept of Health Polio Warning Wallet Card
http://pnnj.org/anesthesia/Anesthesia-Warning-Card.pdf (please pass
on)
 
L

~*Laughingstar*~

Flightless Bird
Re: Missing MVP's

PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
>> Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
>>> I think [NNTP Bridge] has a decided advantage...
>>
>> But only if you sync your newsreader with your forums immediately
>> before you start posting replies.
>>
>> If you compose your replies while working offline, you're at a
>> distinct advantage

PAB you mean work "WORK OFFLINE?" composiing emails, and responses herein??

and whatever info you eventually post may well
>> have been superseded by other replies to the thread posted after you
>> last synchronized with the forum. [Trust me on this, Ken.]

--
~Ciao~
Cj.·´¯`:..><)))º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><)))º>

NJ State Dept of Health Polio Warning Wallet Card
http://pnnj.org/anesthesia/Anesthesia-Warning-Card.pdf (please pass
on)
 
I

Ildhund

Flightless Bird
Re: Missing MVP's

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message news:#0We30APLHA.5000@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> glee wrote:
>> ...and posts were being 'marked as the answer' that did not resolve the poster's issue...

> The MS-paid idiots are getting much better at not doing that.
> Unfortunately, it looks like their current contract requires a post by one of them in every thread within 24 hours of OP's first post...even if they're repeating what someone else has already posted or something that has nothing to do with OP's post (e.g., tips for Win7 when OP stated XP). <sigh>

Has anyone managed to get their hands on that contract? It's probably not very different from the one used over at windowslivehelp.com, where the moderator antics are unbelievable. I have countless threads like this:
OP: How do I do this?
Me: Like this.
[days or weeks later]
Mod: @OP: Do what Noel said.
@Noel: Thanks!
(There's no threading, so the @s are required.)
OK, that might convince the OP that the response is approved, but as few of them come back, we'll never know whether it helped - even though the mod's reply is marked as answer.

One of those responsible - Chris Jones, VP Windows Live Engineering - blogged about feedback a couple of days ago at
http://windowsteamblog.com/windows_...ng-your-feedback-to-improve-windows-live.aspx
He may get more than he bargained for.
--
Noel
[Leaving xpost in place pro tem for PA's benefit]
 
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Bruce Hagen

Flightless Bird
Re: Missing MVP's

>>(There's no threading, so the @s are required.) <<

There is, but only by personal choice in "My Settings". And, most of the
MS paid idiots reply to someone that has already replied instead of the
OP.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA




"Ildhund" <jnllb@removemsn.com> wrote in message
news:-OUDLuNBPLHA.4384@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message
> news:#0We30APLHA.5000@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> glee wrote:
>>> ...and posts were being 'marked as the answer' that did not resolve
>>> the poster's issue...
>
>> The MS-paid idiots are getting much better at not doing that.
>> Unfortunately, it looks like their current contract requires a post by
>> one of them in every thread within 24 hours of OP's first post...even
>> if they're repeating what someone else has already posted or something
>> that has nothing to do with OP's post (e.g., tips for Win7 when OP
>> stated XP). <sigh>
>
> Has anyone managed to get their hands on that contract? It's probably
> not very different from the one used over at windowslivehelp.com, where
> the moderator antics are unbelievable. I have countless threads like
> this:
> OP: How do I do this?
> Me: Like this.
> [days or weeks later]
> Mod: @OP: Do what Noel said.
> @Noel: Thanks!
> (There's no threading, so the @s are required.) OK, that might convince
> the OP that the response is approved, but as few of them come back,
> we'll never know whether it helped - even though the mod's reply is
> marked as answer.
>
> One of those responsible - Chris Jones, VP Windows Live Engineering -
> blogged about feedback a couple of days ago at
> http://windowsteamblog.com/windows_...ng-your-feedback-to-improve-windows-live.aspx
> He may get more than he bargained for.
> --
> Noel
> [Leaving xpost in place pro tem for PA's benefit]
 
R

Ron Sommer

Flightless Bird
Re: Missing MVP's

Answers can show the threading.
Windowslivehelp does not offer threading.

--
Ron Sommer
MS MVP- Windows Live Mail

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
news:i47du0$qu$1@news.eternal-september.org...

>>(There's no threading, so the @s are required.) <<

There is, but only by personal choice in "My Settings". And, most of the
MS paid idiots reply to someone that has already replied instead of the
OP.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA




"Ildhund" <jnllb@removemsn.com> wrote in message
news:-OUDLuNBPLHA.4384@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message
> news:#0We30APLHA.5000@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> glee wrote:
>>> ...and posts were being 'marked as the answer' that did not resolve the
>>> poster's issue...
>
>> The MS-paid idiots are getting much better at not doing that.
>> Unfortunately, it looks like their current contract requires a post by
>> one of them in every thread within 24 hours of OP's first post...even if
>> they're repeating what someone else has already posted or something that
>> has nothing to do with OP's post (e.g., tips for Win7 when OP stated XP).
>> <sigh>
>
> Has anyone managed to get their hands on that contract? It's probably not
> very different from the one used over at windowslivehelp.com, where the
> moderator antics are unbelievable. I have countless threads like this:
> OP: How do I do this?
> Me: Like this.
> [days or weeks later]
> Mod: @OP: Do what Noel said.
> @Noel: Thanks!
> (There's no threading, so the @s are required.) OK, that might convince
> the OP that the response is approved, but as few of them come back, we'll
> never know whether it helped - even though the mod's reply is marked as
> answer.
>
> One of those responsible - Chris Jones, VP Windows Live Engineering -
> blogged about feedback a couple of days ago at
> http://windowsteamblog.com/windows_...ng-your-feedback-to-improve-windows-live.aspx
> He may get more than he bargained for.
> --
> Noel
> [Leaving xpost in place pro tem for PA's benefit]
 
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Ildhund

Flightless Bird
Re: Missing MVP's

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message news:i47du0$qu$1@news.eternal-september.org...

>>(There's no threading, so the @s are required.) <<

> There is, but only by personal choice in "My Settings". And, most of the MS paid idiots reply to someone that has already replied instead of the OP.

Not at windowslivehelp.com, there isn't. No settings at all except language and time zone - and the time zone one's broken.
--
Noel
[who can't be bothered to indent the rest]

>
>> The MS-paid idiots are getting much better at not doing that.
>> Unfortunately, it looks like their current contract requires a post by
>> one of them in every thread within 24 hours of OP's first post...even
>> if they're repeating what someone else has already posted or something
>> that has nothing to do with OP's post (e.g., tips for Win7 when OP
>> stated XP). <sigh>
>
> Has anyone managed to get their hands on that contract? It's probably
> not very different from the one used over at windowslivehelp.com, where
> the moderator antics are unbelievable. I have countless threads like
> this:
> OP: How do I do this?
> Me: Like this.
> [days or weeks later]
> Mod: @OP: Do what Noel said.
> @Noel: Thanks!
> (There's no threading, so the @s are required.) OK, that might convince
> the OP that the response is approved, but as few of them come back,
> we'll never know whether it helped - even though the mod's reply is
> marked as answer.
>
> One of those responsible - Chris Jones, VP Windows Live Engineering -
> blogged about feedback a couple of days ago at
> http://windowsteamblog.com/windows_...ng-your-feedback-to-improve-windows-live.aspx
> He may get more than he bargained for.
 
B

Bruce Hagen

Flightless Bird
Re: Missing MVP's

"Ildhund" <jnllb@removemsn.com> wrote in message
news:%23Ye53bBPLHA.4504@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>
> "Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
> news:i47du0$qu$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>(There's no threading, so the @s are required.) <<
>
>> There is, but only by personal choice in "My Settings". And, most of
>> the MS paid idiots reply to someone that has already replied instead of
>> the OP.
>
> Not at windowslivehelp.com, there isn't. No settings at all except
> language and time zone - and the time zone one's broken.
> --
> Noel
> [who can't be bothered to indent the rest]


OK. I stay away from there.
--
~Bruce









>
>>
>>> The MS-paid idiots are getting much better at not doing that.
>>> Unfortunately, it looks like their current contract requires a post by
>>> one of them in every thread within 24 hours of OP's first post...even
>>> if they're repeating what someone else has already posted or something
>>> that has nothing to do with OP's post (e.g., tips for Win7 when OP
>>> stated XP). <sigh>
>>
>> Has anyone managed to get their hands on that contract? It's probably
>> not very different from the one used over at windowslivehelp.com, where
>> the moderator antics are unbelievable. I have countless threads like
>> this:
>> OP: How do I do this?
>> Me: Like this.
>> [days or weeks later]
>> Mod: @OP: Do what Noel said.
>> @Noel: Thanks!
>> (There's no threading, so the @s are required.) OK, that might convince
>> the OP that the response is approved, but as few of them come back,
>> we'll never know whether it helped - even though the mod's reply is
>> marked as answer.
>>
>> One of those responsible - Chris Jones, VP Windows Live Engineering -
>> blogged about feedback a couple of days ago at
>> http://windowsteamblog.com/windows_...ng-your-feedback-to-improve-windows-live.aspx
>> He may get more than he bargained for.
>
 
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Nancy Jackman

Flightless Bird
Re: Missing MVP's

There is, but only by personal choice in "My Settings". And, most of the
MS paid idiots reply to someone that has already replied instead of the
OP.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA
-----------------------------------------------

Yes, that's often a problem here...

Again for obvious reasons.

Nancy Jackman

"Bruce Hagen" wrote in message
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>>(There's no threading, so the @s are required.) <<

There is, but only by personal choice in "My Settings". And, most of the
MS paid idiots reply to someone that has already replied instead of the
OP.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA

"Ildhund" <jnllb@removemsn.com> wrote in message
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> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote in message
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>> glee wrote:
>>> ...and posts were being 'marked as the answer' that did not resolve the
>>> poster's issue...
>
>> The MS-paid idiots are getting much better at not doing that.
>> Unfortunately, it looks like their current contract requires a post by
>> one of them in every thread within 24 hours of OP's first post...even if
>> they're repeating what someone else has already posted or something that
>> has nothing to do with OP's post (e.g., tips for Win7 when OP stated XP).
>> <sigh>
>
> Has anyone managed to get their hands on that contract? It's probably not
> very different from the one used over at windowslivehelp.com, where the
> moderator antics are unbelievable. I have countless threads like this:
> OP: How do I do this?
> Me: Like this.
> [days or weeks later]
> Mod: @OP: Do what Noel said.
> @Noel: Thanks!
> (There's no threading, so the @s are required.) OK, that might convince
> the OP that the response is approved, but as few of them come back, we'll
> never know whether it helped - even though the mod's reply is marked as
> answer.
>
> One of those responsible - Chris Jones, VP Windows Live Engineering -
> blogged about feedback a couple of days ago at
> http://windowsteamblog.com/windows_...ng-your-feedback-to-improve-windows-live.aspx
> He may get more than he bargained for.
> --
> Noel
> [Leaving xpost in place pro tem for PA's benefit]
 
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glee

Flightless Bird
inline....
"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> glee wrote:
> <snip>
>> I stopped posting via the forums because I was not getting
>> notifications
>> of replies
>
> See "How do I manage the settings of my alerts?"
> http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/help

But do they have a setting to change your email address for the alerts?
Nowhere I can see. If you want to change the email address for alert
delvery, you have to set up a new Live ID to log in with. Pfft...


> Make sure that the emails aren't being filtered to your spamtrap/spam
> folder.

They never showed up anywhere.


>> ...no one posting seemed to be able to find their posts for
>> follow-up
>
> I'd say that well over 50% of my OPs find their way back. Some even
> finish the thread!

Zowie!


>> ...and posts were being 'marked as the answer' that did not
>> resolve the poster's issue...
>
> The MS-paid idiots are getting much better at not doing that.
> Unfortunately, it looks like their current contract requires a post by
> one of them in every thread within 24 hours of OP's first post...even
> if they're repeating what someone else has already posted or something
> that has nothing to do with OP's post (e.g., tips for Win7 when OP
> stated XP). <sigh>

Yes, idiots is the word I was looking for.....

I also see the forums support only IE and Firefox...."Others may work,
but some features may not function as expected." After all this time,
MS still can't figure how to code web sites to "standards".....here
comes that word I was looking for again....

--
Glen Ventura, MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009
A+
http://dts-l.net/
 
M

milt

Flightless Bird
On 8/14/2010 10:12 PM, glee wrote:
>
> I also see the forums support only IE and Firefox...."Others may work,
> but some features may not function as expected." After all this time, MS
> still can't figure how to code web sites to "standards".....here comes
> that word I was looking for again....
>

Well, in the same way that MS sets their own standards in trying to
force people to forums instead of newsgroups. MS sets their own
standards with web standards as well. They think they are big enough
that they can set the standards and everyone will have to follow them.
 
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