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Alias

Flightless Bird
On 05/16/2010 03:49 AM, John B. Slocomb wrote:
> On Sat, 15 May 2010 16:07:38 +0200, Alias
> <aka@maskedandanymous.org.invalido> wrote:
>
>> John B. Slocomb wrote:
>>> On Sat, 15 May 2010 13:23:57 +0200, Alias
>>> <aka@hewhoismasked&anonymous.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 05/15/2010 04:53 AM, John B. Slocomb wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 14 May 2010 15:46:50 +0200, Alias
>>>>> <aka@maskedandanymous.org.invalido> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> John B. Slocomb wrote:
>>>>>>> On Fri, 14 May 2010 12:36:07 +0200, Alias
>>>>>>> <aka@maskedandanymous.org.invalido> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jackie wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 5/14/2010 03:06, John B. Slocomb wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Ah Jackie, you are learning about Alias. He posts some unsupported
>>>>>>>>>> slander about Windows and when someone rebuts his post complete with
>>>>>>>>>> quotes and references to demonstrate validity he replies with
>>>>>>>>>> irrelevancies.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It would be nice if he could actually try to back anything he says up
>>>>>>>>> even he doesn't have any reliable references, because it really is like
>>>>>>>>> you say. Technical details would be good so that we can see if it even
>>>>>>>>> sounds logical or not.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> OR, you could do your own research and see if what I am saying is true.
>>>>>>>> What is it about you Windows users that makes you think everyone has to
>>>>>>>> prove to you what they say is true?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I suppose because most of us prefer not to be lied to. If you
>>>>>>> don't/can't prove it how do we know that you aren't deliberately
>>>>>>> lying? And after you display your ignorance of computers a few times
>>>>>>> it is very difficult to accept that you know anything at all. Another
>>>>>>> reason is because many people are naturally polite and dislike saying
>>>>>>> "You are a liar" so instead that say something like "can you prove
>>>>>>> it?"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And I don't believe that it is confined to Windows users, I doubt that
>>>>>>> many actually like to be lied to.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> John B. Slocomb
>>>>>>> (johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Double yawn.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, I'm sure that you are correct. Telling the truth is a boring
>>>>> subject, isn't it? Certainly you appear to be much more inclined to
>>>>> tell lies then tell the truth.
>>>>>
>>>>> Or is it simple ignorance that you suffer from?
>>>>>
>>>>> John B. Slocomb
>>>>> (johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)
>>>>
>>>> You can't reply to me without stating you are perfect and I am
>>>> imperfect, can you? You, sir, are a BORE and a very amateurish debater.
>>>
>>>
>>> You really are bad at the English language aren't you.
>>
>> First lie.
>>
>> < I talk about
>>> you telling lies and you say that I'm perfect?
>>
>> Second lie.
>
> You see, you prove my point that your English is faulty.
>
> I write that I talk about you telling lies and you say that I'm
> perfect"
> You call it a lie.
>
> I wrote, " Certainly you appear to be much more inclined to tell lies
> then tell the truth."
> You wrote, "You can't reply to me without stating you are perfect..."
>
> Then you state that I am lying when I repeat it.
> Alias, you either can't read or you have an extremely short memory.
> Or you are lying yet again.
>
>>>
>>> Perhaps using your standards I am... I don't tell lies.
>>
>> Third lie.
>
> Ah.. And what have I lied about?
>
>>> Does that make
>>> me a perfect person in your society?
>>>
>>> John B. Slocomb
>>> (johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)
>>
>> You're far from perfect. You rely on ad hominem attacks for your
>> "arguments". That's very amateurish.
>
> Are you really saying that when you expose your complete ignorance
> about Windows (the kernel is the Registry) and Linux (based on the
> desktop environment) and I state that you don't know what you are
> talking about, that is a personal attack?
>
> Either you don't actually know what the Latin means or you are simply
> trying to cover up your ignorance.
>
> An ad hominem (Latin: "argument toward the person" or "argument
> against the person"), is an argument which links the validity of a
> premise to a characteristic or belief of the person advocating the
> premise.
> In other words, if I argue that because you are a "dirty rat" your
> evidence that you saw me rob the bank is not valid.
>
> But that is not what happened. You made a totally erroneous statement
> and I stated that you demonstrated your ignorance of the subject by
> making that statement.
> Hardly a personal attack, rather a statement of fact.
>
> John B. Slocomb
> (johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)

If you can't see that you constantly use personal attacks to make your
"argument", I can't help you. If you can't see how picky you're being
and using that to distract from the main issue, I can't help you. In
fact, I doubt anyone can.

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Alias
 
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Death

Flightless Bird
"Alias" <aka@hewhoismasked&anonymous.com> wrote in message
news:hsog7k$j2k$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> On 05/15/2010 08:02 PM, Death wrote:
>> "Alias"<aka@maskedandanymous.org.invalido> wrote in message
>> news:hsmmbk$crf$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>> Death wrote:
>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Death wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>> Not what I did. The machine had a hidden partition
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hidden where?
>>>>>> Under the chair?
>>>>>> In another part of the house?
>>>>>> What the fuck does that have to do with anything?
>>>>>
>>>>> Um, you said I slipped in a CD. Connect the dots.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No way...you actually have customers that hire you to boot from a
>>>> recovery partition?
>>>
>>> Most Windows users don't know what that is. People are paid to reinstall
>>> Windows all the time. Where have you been, under a rock?
>>>
>>
>> Must have been.
>> Smart people probably don't.
>
> Note I wrote "most", not "all". I've never paid anyone to reinstall an OS
> for me, for example.
>

Maybe you should.
Perhaps if you see a Windows install setup right, you would like it more.
Then you would see Windows, Office, Java, and Flash all update themselves
automatically.


>>
>>>> LMFAO...
>>>> Can children enter into a contract in Spain?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Do you think you could be a bit more supercilious and patronizing in
>>> your
>>> vain quest to put yourself up and me down?
>>
>> No, I'm actually restraining myself.
>
> Then go for it.
>

Don't get squirrely tailed with me.


>> You find out how to update software yet?
>>
>
> I've known how to do that longer than you have.
>

Reading what you've said, maybe just not very well.

--
Vita brevis breviter in brevi finietur,
Mors venit velociter quae neminem veretur.
 
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Alias

Flightless Bird
John B. Slocomb wrote:
> On Sat, 15 May 2010 16:15:24 +0200, Alias
> <aka@maskedandanymous.org.invalido> wrote:
>
>> Death wrote:
>>> Alias wrote:
>>>
>>>> John B. Slocomb wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 15 May 2010 13:18:44 +0200, Alias
>>>>> <aka@hewhoismasked&anonymous.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 05/15/2010 05:40 AM, John B. Slocomb wrote:
>>>>>>> On Fri, 14 May 2010 18:53:28 +0200, Jackie<Jackie@an.on> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 5/14/2010 18:10, Heywood Jablowme wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Who the hell wants to run Windows applications in Ubuntu and who the
>>>>>>>>> hell would want to run them under WHINE? If you need Microsoft
>>>>>>>>> applications, and most people want MS apps, then use Windows. No need to
>>>>>>>>> use that INFERIOR Ubuntu that nobody wants.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ubuntu was written by geeks for geeks who can't get laid.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Having *options* is a very good thing.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It can be nice if you want to use Ubuntu and you actually have that
>>>>>>>> option to use them via an emulator (Wine, CXGames, Cedega).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Having used Windows since Windows 95 up until present version and not
>>>>>>>> much Linux, I wouldn't exactly say that Ubuntu is bad. Overall, I
>>>>>>>> personally feel that Windows is more complete. But... Windows still
>>>>>>>> lacks essential features that Ubuntu has pre-installed. I, for one,
>>>>>>>> think that finding and installing applications and the best drivers
>>>>>>>> could (and should) be easier in Windows. There's a potential solution
>>>>>>>> for this if you could gather developers and their products into one
>>>>>>>> place. There were no good solution in Windows as early as in (most?)
>>>>>>>> Linux distros (and still not now). I believe that is why applications
>>>>>>>> for Windows are so spread without a good, easy, built-in way to find,
>>>>>>>> browse and install them from one single place.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think that one of the reasons for the "Oh! Linux can do anything
>>>>>>> that Windows can" fiction is that most of the people using either
>>>>>>> system aren't using it professionally.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> One of the major reasons is that the vast majority of the business
>>>>>>> world uses Windows and the associated applications. If you do a job
>>>>>>> for most companies you will run head on into the fact that your Linux
>>>>>>> system doesn't match their Windows.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Almost every project I have been on used Auto-Cad and during
>>>>>>> construction of a project there are innumerable changes in the
>>>>>>> drawings. The normal practice is to e-mail complete drawings back and
>>>>>>> forth between the Engineering Office and the Field. Up-dated drawing
>>>>>>> going out to the Field and marked up drawings showing the "As-builts"
>>>>>>> sent back.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Frequently if one writes a report the company will request that both a
>>>>>>> printed report and a disk copy be furnished, particularly if any form
>>>>>>> of legal problems are anticipated. And, with extremely rare exceptions
>>>>>>> they want the disks in "Word format".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is all well and good to say "Well, Open Office can do the job", but
>>>>>>> if you deliver a Linux formatted disk with a OO document on it you
>>>>>>> will probably be told in no uncertain terms that it is not what you
>>>>>>> contracted to do.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Of course Auto-Cad will run on Linux using Wine but how big a data
>>>>>>> file can it handle? Are you sure that it can edit the largest drawing
>>>>>>> that the Engineers want to send? If you are out in the middle of a 100
>>>>>>> Sq. Km. sugar cane plantation in the middle of Java building a gas
>>>>>>> plant for the National Oil Company it is not really a good time to
>>>>>>> discover that you can't do your job because Linux won't do it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No, as long as windows is the dominant computer operating system Linux
>>>>>>> is never going to be a wholly acceptable system..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> John B. Slocomb
>>>>>>> (johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You're right. Some things can only be done with Windows, at least for
>>>>>> now. My point is that most HOME USERS can do everything they do with
>>>>>> Windows but more securely if they use Ubuntu or another Linux distro.
>>>>>
>>>>> I just installed Fedora 13 (beta) on my Granddaughter's game computer
>>>>> - dual boot, Win 7 and Fedora - and set up Clamav to do periodic virus
>>>>> scans on the Linux partition. Thought I'd give the kid a fighting
>>>>> chance so changed things around a bit so that Linux could see the
>>>>> windows directory and set up Clamav to scan that partition too.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is a machine that a 7 year old girl uses and has the installed
>>>>> Win 7 firewall and whatever they call it that won't let you run a
>>>>> program without clicking on yet another permission box. Probably not
>>>>> earth shaking protection.
>>>>>
>>>>> Results - no virus.
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually, I have had one serious virus in something like 20 years and
>>>>> I got that one from a bootleg copied disk. I use a firewall and do
>>>>> periodic virus scans but frankly I have never had a problem with
>>>>> mal-ware or virus that effected the operations of the computer.
>>>>>
>>>>> My own suspicions are that these people who have massive problems with
>>>>> mal-ware or virus are very likely not using a decent firewall or are
>>>>> downloading a lot of porn and warz.
>>>>>
>>>>> John B. Slocomb
>>>>> (johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)
>>>>
>>>> You're forgetting about not updating Windows, Java, Flash, etc. as
>>>> causes. That's the beautiful thing about Linux: the updates update
>>>> everything you have installed if you configure it properly.
>>>
>>> Windows,java,Flash,whatever-your-heart-desires gets updated in Windows
>>> automatically,dummy.
>>> Do you actual run Windows, or do you just despise it?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Once I had
>>>> to clean up an XP machine that had never been defragged (customer:
>>>> what's that?) or updated (customer: what's that?). It took over ten
>>>> minutes to boot up and once it booted, pop up Windows had a fucking
>>>> field day. I ended up reinstalling XP because there was just too much
>>>> malware to deal with and there was no guarantee that the AV and other
>>>> anti malware programs would completely remove all malware.
>>>>
>>>
>>> You re-installed XP cause that is your skill level...stick a DVD/live-CD
>>> in a tray, call it "support".
>>>
>>>
>>>> Oh, and Warez went out of business almost a decade ago. The new sites
>>>> are www.PirateBay.org and www.Torrents.to. Where I live it is LEGAL to
>>>> download from those sites as long as you don't plan on selling what you
>>>> download. The so-called loss that the audio and video companies
>>>> supposedly suffer is made up by a charge on every single blank CD or DVD
>>>> that you buy. Quite sensible, really. I would never download software
>>>> from there because we are talking about millions of files. Audio and
>>>> video, OTOH, can be scanned before running and I've never had a problem.
>>>>
>>>
>>> It's still all called "warez", dummy.
>>
>> Only by dummies like you.
>>
>>> You and your pendantic ass.
>>>
>>
>> Warez was a specific group and they got busted. You probably also ask
>> for a "Xerox" copy when you should say photo copy.
>
>
> Alias, go to google (www.google.com) and type "warez" (without the
> inverted commas) into the search block. You'll get thousands of hits
> on God only knows how many sites.
>
> It is a generic term.
>
> Why do you insist on displaying your ignorance?
>
> John B. Slocomb
> (johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)

Originally it was a group. The name caught on. You know, like "xerox
this" instead of "make a photocopy of this". Of course, you only are
this picky because you're extremely concerned that you might not win
your pissing contest, the ONLY reason you reply to me or anyone else for
that matter.

--
Alias
 
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Alias

Flightless Bird
Bob I wrote:
> The reason that "Linux" isn't targeted is that there aren't enough
> installations to bother with. Lets face it, if the Mariposa botnet was
> counted as separate OS, it would have more users than Linux!

That's the FUD that MS wants you to believe and you're a True Believer.

The Mariposa botnet is made up of computers running Windows, like all
botnets that provide us with all the spam and malware.
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Alias
 
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Alias

Flightless Bird
Death wrote:
>
> "DanS" <t.h.i.s.n.t.h.a.t@r.o.a.d.r.u.n.n.e.r.c.o.m> wrote in message
> news:Xns9D79D2D15CF9Fthisnthatroadrunnern@216.196.97.131...
>> Bob I <birelan@yahoo.com> wrote in
>> news:H6GHn.4871$yx.324@newsfe13.iad:
>>
>>> The reason that "Linux" isn't targeted is that there aren't
>>> enough installations to bother with. Lets face it, if the
>>> Mariposa botnet was counted as separate OS, it would have
>>> more users than Linux!
>>
>> You are confirming is that Windows is the imminent target of
>> spyware/malware writers ? (Which was the original point of this
>> thread branch.)
>>
>> It doesn't matter why. At this time, Windows is more susceptible
>> than Linux.
>
> People with money are more likely to be robbed.

Are you saying that all Windows users are rich and all Linux users are
poor or what?

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Death

Flightless Bird
"Alias" <aka@maskedandanymous.org.invalido> wrote in message
news:hsoipq$pog$3@news.eternal-september.org...
> Death wrote:
>>
>> "DanS" <t.h.i.s.n.t.h.a.t@r.o.a.d.r.u.n.n.e.r.c.o.m> wrote in message
>> news:Xns9D79D2D15CF9Fthisnthatroadrunnern@216.196.97.131...
>>> Bob I <birelan@yahoo.com> wrote in
>>> news:H6GHn.4871$yx.324@newsfe13.iad:
>>>
>>>> The reason that "Linux" isn't targeted is that there aren't
>>>> enough installations to bother with. Lets face it, if the
>>>> Mariposa botnet was counted as separate OS, it would have
>>>> more users than Linux!
>>>
>>> You are confirming is that Windows is the imminent target of
>>> spyware/malware writers ? (Which was the original point of this
>>> thread branch.)
>>>
>>> It doesn't matter why. At this time, Windows is more susceptible
>>> than Linux.
>>
>> People with money are more likely to be robbed.
>
> Are you saying that all Windows users are rich and all Linux users are
> poor or what?
>

I'm not saying that, though now that you've put it out there, perhaps you
have a good point.

What I'm saying is surely it would make sense that writers of malware would
target a system with the most users.
Just as a robber would target places where money is.
Robbers that target the homeless are just homeless robbers...they don't
really profit from their bad deeds.

But, come to think of it...Linux servers get hacked all the time...and Linux
users wouldn't even know if they've been hacked, as the system is already so
buggy to begin with.
Did a hack cause that lock up?
Or is compiz acting flaky again?

--
Vita brevis breviter in brevi finietur,
Mors venit velociter quae neminem veretur.
 
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Alias

Flightless Bird
Death wrote:
>
> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanymous.org.invalido> wrote in message
> news:hsoipq$pog$3@news.eternal-september.org...
>> Death wrote:
>>>
>>> "DanS" <t.h.i.s.n.t.h.a.t@r.o.a.d.r.u.n.n.e.r.c.o.m> wrote in message
>>> news:Xns9D79D2D15CF9Fthisnthatroadrunnern@216.196.97.131...
>>>> Bob I <birelan@yahoo.com> wrote in
>>>> news:H6GHn.4871$yx.324@newsfe13.iad:
>>>>
>>>>> The reason that "Linux" isn't targeted is that there aren't
>>>>> enough installations to bother with. Lets face it, if the
>>>>> Mariposa botnet was counted as separate OS, it would have
>>>>> more users than Linux!
>>>>
>>>> You are confirming is that Windows is the imminent target of
>>>> spyware/malware writers ? (Which was the original point of this
>>>> thread branch.)
>>>>
>>>> It doesn't matter why. At this time, Windows is more susceptible
>>>> than Linux.
>>>
>>> People with money are more likely to be robbed.
>>
>> Are you saying that all Windows users are rich and all Linux users are
>> poor or what?
>>
>
> I'm not saying that, though now that you've put it out there, perhaps
> you have a good point.
>
> What I'm saying is surely it would make sense that writers of malware
> would target a system with the most users.
> Just as a robber would target places where money is.
> Robbers that target the homeless are just homeless robbers...they don't
> really profit from their bad deeds.

More like the robbers would rob someone with their Windows open.

>
> But, come to think of it...Linux servers get hacked all the time...

Got proof?

> and
> Linux users wouldn't even know if they've been hacked, as the system is
> already so buggy to begin with.

Bullshit.

> Did a hack cause that lock up?
> Or is compiz acting flaky again?
>

Servers don't use Compiz.

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Alias
 
J

John B. Slocomb

Flightless Bird
On Sun, 16 May 2010 12:23:17 +0200, Alias
<aka@hewhoismasked&anonymous.com> wrote:

>On 05/16/2010 03:49 AM, John B. Slocomb wrote:
>> On Sat, 15 May 2010 16:07:38 +0200, Alias
>> <aka@maskedandanymous.org.invalido> wrote:
>>
>>> John B. Slocomb wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 15 May 2010 13:23:57 +0200, Alias
>>>> <aka@hewhoismasked&anonymous.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 05/15/2010 04:53 AM, John B. Slocomb wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 14 May 2010 15:46:50 +0200, Alias
>>>>>> <aka@maskedandanymous.org.invalido> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> John B. Slocomb wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 14 May 2010 12:36:07 +0200, Alias
>>>>>>>> <aka@maskedandanymous.org.invalido> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jackie wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 5/14/2010 03:06, John B. Slocomb wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Ah Jackie, you are learning about Alias. He posts some unsupported
>>>>>>>>>>> slander about Windows and when someone rebuts his post complete with
>>>>>>>>>>> quotes and references to demonstrate validity he replies with
>>>>>>>>>>> irrelevancies.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It would be nice if he could actually try to back anything he says up
>>>>>>>>>> even he doesn't have any reliable references, because it really is like
>>>>>>>>>> you say. Technical details would be good so that we can see if it even
>>>>>>>>>> sounds logical or not.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> OR, you could do your own research and see if what I am saying is true.
>>>>>>>>> What is it about you Windows users that makes you think everyone has to
>>>>>>>>> prove to you what they say is true?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I suppose because most of us prefer not to be lied to. If you
>>>>>>>> don't/can't prove it how do we know that you aren't deliberately
>>>>>>>> lying? And after you display your ignorance of computers a few times
>>>>>>>> it is very difficult to accept that you know anything at all. Another
>>>>>>>> reason is because many people are naturally polite and dislike saying
>>>>>>>> "You are a liar" so instead that say something like "can you prove
>>>>>>>> it?"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And I don't believe that it is confined to Windows users, I doubt that
>>>>>>>> many actually like to be lied to.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> John B. Slocomb
>>>>>>>> (johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Double yawn.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, I'm sure that you are correct. Telling the truth is a boring
>>>>>> subject, isn't it? Certainly you appear to be much more inclined to
>>>>>> tell lies then tell the truth.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Or is it simple ignorance that you suffer from?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John B. Slocomb
>>>>>> (johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)
>>>>>
>>>>> You can't reply to me without stating you are perfect and I am
>>>>> imperfect, can you? You, sir, are a BORE and a very amateurish debater.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You really are bad at the English language aren't you.
>>>
>>> First lie.
>>>
>>> < I talk about
>>>> you telling lies and you say that I'm perfect?
>>>
>>> Second lie.
>>
>> You see, you prove my point that your English is faulty.
>>
>> I write that I talk about you telling lies and you say that I'm
>> perfect"
>> You call it a lie.
>>
>> I wrote, " Certainly you appear to be much more inclined to tell lies
>> then tell the truth."
>> You wrote, "You can't reply to me without stating you are perfect..."
>>
>> Then you state that I am lying when I repeat it.
>> Alias, you either can't read or you have an extremely short memory.
>> Or you are lying yet again.
>>
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps using your standards I am... I don't tell lies.
>>>
>>> Third lie.
>>
>> Ah.. And what have I lied about?
>>
>>>> Does that make
>>>> me a perfect person in your society?
>>>>
>>>> John B. Slocomb
>>>> (johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)
>>>
>>> You're far from perfect. You rely on ad hominem attacks for your
>>> "arguments". That's very amateurish.
>>
>> Are you really saying that when you expose your complete ignorance
>> about Windows (the kernel is the Registry) and Linux (based on the
>> desktop environment) and I state that you don't know what you are
>> talking about, that is a personal attack?
>>
>> Either you don't actually know what the Latin means or you are simply
>> trying to cover up your ignorance.
>>
>> An ad hominem (Latin: "argument toward the person" or "argument
>> against the person"), is an argument which links the validity of a
>> premise to a characteristic or belief of the person advocating the
>> premise.
>> In other words, if I argue that because you are a "dirty rat" your
>> evidence that you saw me rob the bank is not valid.
>>
>> But that is not what happened. You made a totally erroneous statement
>> and I stated that you demonstrated your ignorance of the subject by
>> making that statement.
>> Hardly a personal attack, rather a statement of fact.
>>
>> John B. Slocomb
>> (johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)
>
>If you can't see that you constantly use personal attacks to make your
>"argument", I can't help you. If you can't see how picky you're being
>and using that to distract from the main issue, I can't help you. In
>fact, I doubt anyone can.


Ahhh... You lie about something and I catch you and I say "Alias, you
are a liar" and that is a personal attack....

You sound like the people that were too lazy to study and then said it
was unfair to give them a failing grade.

John B. Slocomb
(johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)
 
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Alias

Flightless Bird
John B. Slocomb wrote:
> On Sun, 16 May 2010 12:23:17 +0200, Alias
> <aka@hewhoismasked&anonymous.com> wrote:
>
>> On 05/16/2010 03:49 AM, John B. Slocomb wrote:
>>> On Sat, 15 May 2010 16:07:38 +0200, Alias
>>> <aka@maskedandanymous.org.invalido> wrote:
>>>
>>>> John B. Slocomb wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 15 May 2010 13:23:57 +0200, Alias
>>>>> <aka@hewhoismasked&anonymous.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 05/15/2010 04:53 AM, John B. Slocomb wrote:
>>>>>>> On Fri, 14 May 2010 15:46:50 +0200, Alias
>>>>>>> <aka@maskedandanymous.org.invalido> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> John B. Slocomb wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 14 May 2010 12:36:07 +0200, Alias
>>>>>>>>> <aka@maskedandanymous.org.invalido> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Jackie wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/14/2010 03:06, John B. Slocomb wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ah Jackie, you are learning about Alias. He posts some unsupported
>>>>>>>>>>>> slander about Windows and when someone rebuts his post complete with
>>>>>>>>>>>> quotes and references to demonstrate validity he replies with
>>>>>>>>>>>> irrelevancies.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It would be nice if he could actually try to back anything he says up
>>>>>>>>>>> even he doesn't have any reliable references, because it really is like
>>>>>>>>>>> you say. Technical details would be good so that we can see if it even
>>>>>>>>>>> sounds logical or not.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> OR, you could do your own research and see if what I am saying is true.
>>>>>>>>>> What is it about you Windows users that makes you think everyone has to
>>>>>>>>>> prove to you what they say is true?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I suppose because most of us prefer not to be lied to. If you
>>>>>>>>> don't/can't prove it how do we know that you aren't deliberately
>>>>>>>>> lying? And after you display your ignorance of computers a few times
>>>>>>>>> it is very difficult to accept that you know anything at all. Another
>>>>>>>>> reason is because many people are naturally polite and dislike saying
>>>>>>>>> "You are a liar" so instead that say something like "can you prove
>>>>>>>>> it?"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And I don't believe that it is confined to Windows users, I doubt that
>>>>>>>>> many actually like to be lied to.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> John B. Slocomb
>>>>>>>>> (johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Double yawn.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, I'm sure that you are correct. Telling the truth is a boring
>>>>>>> subject, isn't it? Certainly you appear to be much more inclined to
>>>>>>> tell lies then tell the truth.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Or is it simple ignorance that you suffer from?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> John B. Slocomb
>>>>>>> (johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You can't reply to me without stating you are perfect and I am
>>>>>> imperfect, can you? You, sir, are a BORE and a very amateurish debater.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You really are bad at the English language aren't you.
>>>>
>>>> First lie.
>>>>
>>>> < I talk about
>>>>> you telling lies and you say that I'm perfect?
>>>>
>>>> Second lie.
>>>
>>> You see, you prove my point that your English is faulty.
>>>
>>> I write that I talk about you telling lies and you say that I'm
>>> perfect"
>>> You call it a lie.
>>>
>>> I wrote, " Certainly you appear to be much more inclined to tell lies
>>> then tell the truth."
>>> You wrote, "You can't reply to me without stating you are perfect..."
>>>
>>> Then you state that I am lying when I repeat it.
>>> Alias, you either can't read or you have an extremely short memory.
>>> Or you are lying yet again.
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps using your standards I am... I don't tell lies.
>>>>
>>>> Third lie.
>>>
>>> Ah.. And what have I lied about?
>>>
>>>>> Does that make
>>>>> me a perfect person in your society?
>>>>>
>>>>> John B. Slocomb
>>>>> (johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)
>>>>
>>>> You're far from perfect. You rely on ad hominem attacks for your
>>>> "arguments". That's very amateurish.
>>>
>>> Are you really saying that when you expose your complete ignorance
>>> about Windows (the kernel is the Registry) and Linux (based on the
>>> desktop environment) and I state that you don't know what you are
>>> talking about, that is a personal attack?
>>>
>>> Either you don't actually know what the Latin means or you are simply
>>> trying to cover up your ignorance.
>>>
>>> An ad hominem (Latin: "argument toward the person" or "argument
>>> against the person"), is an argument which links the validity of a
>>> premise to a characteristic or belief of the person advocating the
>>> premise.
>>> In other words, if I argue that because you are a "dirty rat" your
>>> evidence that you saw me rob the bank is not valid.
>>>
>>> But that is not what happened. You made a totally erroneous statement
>>> and I stated that you demonstrated your ignorance of the subject by
>>> making that statement.
>>> Hardly a personal attack, rather a statement of fact.
>>>
>>> John B. Slocomb
>>> (johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)
>>
>> If you can't see that you constantly use personal attacks to make your
>> "argument", I can't help you. If you can't see how picky you're being
>> and using that to distract from the main issue, I can't help you. In
>> fact, I doubt anyone can.
>
>
> Ahhh... You lie about something and I catch you and I say "Alias, you
> are a liar" and that is a personal attack....
>
> You sound like the people that were too lazy to study and then said it
> was unfair to give them a failing grade.
>
> John B. Slocomb
> (johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)

Still pissing, eh?

--
Alias
 
J

John B. Slocomb

Flightless Bird
On Sun, 16 May 2010 12:15:17 +0200, Alias
<aka@hewhoismasked&anonymous.com> wrote:

>On 05/16/2010 04:03 AM, John B. Slocomb wrote:
>> On Sat, 15 May 2010 16:02:52 +0200, Alias
>> <aka@maskedandanymous.org.invalido> wrote:
>>
>>> John B. Slocomb wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 15 May 2010 13:18:44 +0200, Alias
>>>> <aka@hewhoismasked&anonymous.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 05/15/2010 05:40 AM, John B. Slocomb wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 14 May 2010 18:53:28 +0200, Jackie<Jackie@an.on> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5/14/2010 18:10, Heywood Jablowme wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Who the hell wants to run Windows applications in Ubuntu and who the
>>>>>>>> hell would want to run them under WHINE? If you need Microsoft
>>>>>>>> applications, and most people want MS apps, then use Windows. No need to
>>>>>>>> use that INFERIOR Ubuntu that nobody wants.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ubuntu was written by geeks for geeks who can't get laid.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Having *options* is a very good thing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It can be nice if you want to use Ubuntu and you actually have that
>>>>>>> option to use them via an emulator (Wine, CXGames, Cedega).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Having used Windows since Windows 95 up until present version and not
>>>>>>> much Linux, I wouldn't exactly say that Ubuntu is bad. Overall, I
>>>>>>> personally feel that Windows is more complete. But... Windows still
>>>>>>> lacks essential features that Ubuntu has pre-installed. I, for one,
>>>>>>> think that finding and installing applications and the best drivers
>>>>>>> could (and should) be easier in Windows. There's a potential solution
>>>>>>> for this if you could gather developers and their products into one
>>>>>>> place. There were no good solution in Windows as early as in (most?)
>>>>>>> Linux distros (and still not now). I believe that is why applications
>>>>>>> for Windows are so spread without a good, easy, built-in way to find,
>>>>>>> browse and install them from one single place.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think that one of the reasons for the "Oh! Linux can do anything
>>>>>> that Windows can" fiction is that most of the people using either
>>>>>> system aren't using it professionally.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One of the major reasons is that the vast majority of the business
>>>>>> world uses Windows and the associated applications. If you do a job
>>>>>> for most companies you will run head on into the fact that your Linux
>>>>>> system doesn't match their Windows.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Almost every project I have been on used Auto-Cad and during
>>>>>> construction of a project there are innumerable changes in the
>>>>>> drawings. The normal practice is to e-mail complete drawings back and
>>>>>> forth between the Engineering Office and the Field. Up-dated drawing
>>>>>> going out to the Field and marked up drawings showing the "As-builts"
>>>>>> sent back.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Frequently if one writes a report the company will request that both a
>>>>>> printed report and a disk copy be furnished, particularly if any form
>>>>>> of legal problems are anticipated. And, with extremely rare exceptions
>>>>>> they want the disks in "Word format".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is all well and good to say "Well, Open Office can do the job", but
>>>>>> if you deliver a Linux formatted disk with a OO document on it you
>>>>>> will probably be told in no uncertain terms that it is not what you
>>>>>> contracted to do.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Of course Auto-Cad will run on Linux using Wine but how big a data
>>>>>> file can it handle? Are you sure that it can edit the largest drawing
>>>>>> that the Engineers want to send? If you are out in the middle of a 100
>>>>>> Sq. Km. sugar cane plantation in the middle of Java building a gas
>>>>>> plant for the National Oil Company it is not really a good time to
>>>>>> discover that you can't do your job because Linux won't do it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, as long as windows is the dominant computer operating system Linux
>>>>>> is never going to be a wholly acceptable system..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John B. Slocomb
>>>>>> (johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)
>>>>>
>>>>> You're right. Some things can only be done with Windows, at least for
>>>>> now. My point is that most HOME USERS can do everything they do with
>>>>> Windows but more securely if they use Ubuntu or another Linux distro.
>>>>
>>>> I just installed Fedora 13 (beta) on my Granddaughter's game computer
>>>> - dual boot, Win 7 and Fedora - and set up Clamav to do periodic virus
>>>> scans on the Linux partition. Thought I'd give the kid a fighting
>>>> chance so changed things around a bit so that Linux could see the
>>>> windows directory and set up Clamav to scan that partition too.
>>>>
>>>> This is a machine that a 7 year old girl uses and has the installed
>>>> Win 7 firewall and whatever they call it that won't let you run a
>>>> program without clicking on yet another permission box. Probably not
>>>> earth shaking protection.
>>>>
>>>> Results - no virus.
>>>>
>>>> Actually, I have had one serious virus in something like 20 years and
>>>> I got that one from a bootleg copied disk. I use a firewall and do
>>>> periodic virus scans but frankly I have never had a problem with
>>>> mal-ware or virus that effected the operations of the computer.
>>>>
>>>> My own suspicions are that these people who have massive problems with
>>>> mal-ware or virus are very likely not using a decent firewall or are
>>>> downloading a lot of porn and warz.
>>>>
>>>> John B. Slocomb
>>>> (johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)
>>>
>>> You're forgetting about not updating Windows, Java, Flash, etc. as
>>> causes. That's the beautiful thing about Linux: the updates update
>>> everything you have installed if you configure it properly. Once I had
>>
>> That sounds quite modern - automatic updates. Of course Windows offers
>> that service, if you want it.
>> However I consider it a bit risky as at least twice I have updated
>> Linux and in one case OpenOffice stopped running and in another the
>> Nvidia display stopped working.
>>
>> Hardly the miracle that you represent it to be.
>
>Not my experience and you are expecting me to believe you without any
>proof? Can you say "hypocrite"?
>
>>
>>> to clean up an XP machine that had never been defragged (customer:
>>> what's that?) or updated (customer: what's that?). It took over ten
>>> minutes to boot up and once it booted, pop up Windows had a fucking
>>> field day. I ended up reinstalling XP because there was just too much
>>> malware to deal with and there was no guarantee that the AV and other
>>> anti malware programs would completely remove all malware.
>>
>> You seem to be talking about three different things here. (1),
>> updating software; (2), de fragmenting a disk; and (3), mal-ware. None
>> of which have any relationship to the other.
>
>I was giving an example of a Windows box that wasn't updated and what
>happens to Windows boxes that don't update. The lack of defragging was
>just another sign of how many home users "maintain" their computers.

So not defraging the disk is a sign of an ignorant, lazy, Windows
user?

So tell us oh Great and Omnipotent Ubuntu User; how often do you
defrag your Linux disks?

If a failure to defrag a Windows disk is a mortal sin then it must be
equally true for the Ubuntu User.

John B. Slocomb
(johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)
 
D

Death

Flightless Bird
"Alias" <aka@maskedandanymous.org.invalido> wrote in message
news:hsok70$u7i$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> Death wrote:
>>
>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanymous.org.invalido> wrote in message
>> news:hsoipq$pog$3@news.eternal-september.org...
>>> Death wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "DanS" <t.h.i.s.n.t.h.a.t@r.o.a.d.r.u.n.n.e.r.c.o.m> wrote in message
>>>> news:Xns9D79D2D15CF9Fthisnthatroadrunnern@216.196.97.131...
>>>>> Bob I <birelan@yahoo.com> wrote in
>>>>> news:H6GHn.4871$yx.324@newsfe13.iad:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The reason that "Linux" isn't targeted is that there aren't
>>>>>> enough installations to bother with. Lets face it, if the
>>>>>> Mariposa botnet was counted as separate OS, it would have
>>>>>> more users than Linux!
>>>>>
>>>>> You are confirming is that Windows is the imminent target of
>>>>> spyware/malware writers ? (Which was the original point of this
>>>>> thread branch.)
>>>>>
>>>>> It doesn't matter why. At this time, Windows is more susceptible
>>>>> than Linux.
>>>>
>>>> People with money are more likely to be robbed.
>>>
>>> Are you saying that all Windows users are rich and all Linux users are
>>> poor or what?
>>>
>>
>> I'm not saying that, though now that you've put it out there, perhaps
>> you have a good point.
>>
>> What I'm saying is surely it would make sense that writers of malware
>> would target a system with the most users.
>> Just as a robber would target places where money is.
>> Robbers that target the homeless are just homeless robbers...they don't
>> really profit from their bad deeds.
>
> More like the robbers would rob someone with their Windows open.
>
>>
>> But, come to think of it...Linux servers get hacked all the time...
>
> Got proof?
>

Not in my pocket.
You may Google "Linux servers Hacked" and read all the resulting links for
the next couple of years.
Knock yourself out.
It happens, dummy.

>> and
>> Linux users wouldn't even know if they've been hacked, as the system is
>> already so buggy to begin with.
>
> Bullshit.
>
>> Did a hack cause that lock up?
>> Or is compiz acting flaky again?
>>
>
> Servers don't use Compiz.
>

Since I said "users" ... most Linux users don't run servers.
Some do though.

--
Vita brevis breviter in brevi finietur,
Mors venit velociter quae neminem veretur.
 
J

John B. Slocomb

Flightless Bird
On Sun, 16 May 2010 12:49:36 +0200, Alias
<aka@maskedandanymous.org.invalido> wrote:

>John B. Slocomb wrote:
>> On Sat, 15 May 2010 16:15:24 +0200, Alias
>> <aka@maskedandanymous.org.invalido> wrote:
>>
>>> Death wrote:
>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> John B. Slocomb wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 15 May 2010 13:18:44 +0200, Alias
>>>>>> <aka@hewhoismasked&anonymous.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 05/15/2010 05:40 AM, John B. Slocomb wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 14 May 2010 18:53:28 +0200, Jackie<Jackie@an.on> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 5/14/2010 18:10, Heywood Jablowme wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Who the hell wants to run Windows applications in Ubuntu and who the
>>>>>>>>>> hell would want to run them under WHINE? If you need Microsoft
>>>>>>>>>> applications, and most people want MS apps, then use Windows. No need to
>>>>>>>>>> use that INFERIOR Ubuntu that nobody wants.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ubuntu was written by geeks for geeks who can't get laid.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Having *options* is a very good thing.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It can be nice if you want to use Ubuntu and you actually have that
>>>>>>>>> option to use them via an emulator (Wine, CXGames, Cedega).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Having used Windows since Windows 95 up until present version and not
>>>>>>>>> much Linux, I wouldn't exactly say that Ubuntu is bad. Overall, I
>>>>>>>>> personally feel that Windows is more complete. But... Windows still
>>>>>>>>> lacks essential features that Ubuntu has pre-installed. I, for one,
>>>>>>>>> think that finding and installing applications and the best drivers
>>>>>>>>> could (and should) be easier in Windows. There's a potential solution
>>>>>>>>> for this if you could gather developers and their products into one
>>>>>>>>> place. There were no good solution in Windows as early as in (most?)
>>>>>>>>> Linux distros (and still not now). I believe that is why applications
>>>>>>>>> for Windows are so spread without a good, easy, built-in way to find,
>>>>>>>>> browse and install them from one single place.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think that one of the reasons for the "Oh! Linux can do anything
>>>>>>>> that Windows can" fiction is that most of the people using either
>>>>>>>> system aren't using it professionally.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> One of the major reasons is that the vast majority of the business
>>>>>>>> world uses Windows and the associated applications. If you do a job
>>>>>>>> for most companies you will run head on into the fact that your Linux
>>>>>>>> system doesn't match their Windows.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Almost every project I have been on used Auto-Cad and during
>>>>>>>> construction of a project there are innumerable changes in the
>>>>>>>> drawings. The normal practice is to e-mail complete drawings back and
>>>>>>>> forth between the Engineering Office and the Field. Up-dated drawing
>>>>>>>> going out to the Field and marked up drawings showing the "As-builts"
>>>>>>>> sent back.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Frequently if one writes a report the company will request that both a
>>>>>>>> printed report and a disk copy be furnished, particularly if any form
>>>>>>>> of legal problems are anticipated. And, with extremely rare exceptions
>>>>>>>> they want the disks in "Word format".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It is all well and good to say "Well, Open Office can do the job", but
>>>>>>>> if you deliver a Linux formatted disk with a OO document on it you
>>>>>>>> will probably be told in no uncertain terms that it is not what you
>>>>>>>> contracted to do.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Of course Auto-Cad will run on Linux using Wine but how big a data
>>>>>>>> file can it handle? Are you sure that it can edit the largest drawing
>>>>>>>> that the Engineers want to send? If you are out in the middle of a 100
>>>>>>>> Sq. Km. sugar cane plantation in the middle of Java building a gas
>>>>>>>> plant for the National Oil Company it is not really a good time to
>>>>>>>> discover that you can't do your job because Linux won't do it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No, as long as windows is the dominant computer operating system Linux
>>>>>>>> is never going to be a wholly acceptable system..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> John B. Slocomb
>>>>>>>> (johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You're right. Some things can only be done with Windows, at least for
>>>>>>> now. My point is that most HOME USERS can do everything they do with
>>>>>>> Windows but more securely if they use Ubuntu or another Linux distro.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just installed Fedora 13 (beta) on my Granddaughter's game computer
>>>>>> - dual boot, Win 7 and Fedora - and set up Clamav to do periodic virus
>>>>>> scans on the Linux partition. Thought I'd give the kid a fighting
>>>>>> chance so changed things around a bit so that Linux could see the
>>>>>> windows directory and set up Clamav to scan that partition too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is a machine that a 7 year old girl uses and has the installed
>>>>>> Win 7 firewall and whatever they call it that won't let you run a
>>>>>> program without clicking on yet another permission box. Probably not
>>>>>> earth shaking protection.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Results - no virus.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Actually, I have had one serious virus in something like 20 years and
>>>>>> I got that one from a bootleg copied disk. I use a firewall and do
>>>>>> periodic virus scans but frankly I have never had a problem with
>>>>>> mal-ware or virus that effected the operations of the computer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My own suspicions are that these people who have massive problems with
>>>>>> mal-ware or virus are very likely not using a decent firewall or are
>>>>>> downloading a lot of porn and warz.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John B. Slocomb
>>>>>> (johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)
>>>>>
>>>>> You're forgetting about not updating Windows, Java, Flash, etc. as
>>>>> causes. That's the beautiful thing about Linux: the updates update
>>>>> everything you have installed if you configure it properly.
>>>>
>>>> Windows,java,Flash,whatever-your-heart-desires gets updated in Windows
>>>> automatically,dummy.
>>>> Do you actual run Windows, or do you just despise it?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Once I had
>>>>> to clean up an XP machine that had never been defragged (customer:
>>>>> what's that?) or updated (customer: what's that?). It took over ten
>>>>> minutes to boot up and once it booted, pop up Windows had a fucking
>>>>> field day. I ended up reinstalling XP because there was just too much
>>>>> malware to deal with and there was no guarantee that the AV and other
>>>>> anti malware programs would completely remove all malware.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You re-installed XP cause that is your skill level...stick a DVD/live-CD
>>>> in a tray, call it "support".
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Oh, and Warez went out of business almost a decade ago. The new sites
>>>>> are www.PirateBay.org and www.Torrents.to. Where I live it is LEGAL to
>>>>> download from those sites as long as you don't plan on selling what you
>>>>> download. The so-called loss that the audio and video companies
>>>>> supposedly suffer is made up by a charge on every single blank CD or DVD
>>>>> that you buy. Quite sensible, really. I would never download software
>>>>> from there because we are talking about millions of files. Audio and
>>>>> video, OTOH, can be scanned before running and I've never had a problem.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It's still all called "warez", dummy.
>>>
>>> Only by dummies like you.
>>>
>>>> You and your pendantic ass.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Warez was a specific group and they got busted. You probably also ask
>>> for a "Xerox" copy when you should say photo copy.
>>
>>
>> Alias, go to google (www.google.com) and type "warez" (without the
>> inverted commas) into the search block. You'll get thousands of hits
>> on God only knows how many sites.
>>
>> It is a generic term.
>>
>> Why do you insist on displaying your ignorance?
>>
>> John B. Slocomb
>> (johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)
>
>Originally it was a group. The name caught on. You know, like "xerox
>this" instead of "make a photocopy of this". Of course, you only are
>this picky because you're extremely concerned that you might not win
>your pissing contest, the ONLY reason you reply to me or anyone else for
>that matter.


Lets see: I used the term warz [sic] to describe copied software.

Alias then announced that "Warez went out of business almost a decade
ago" whereupon I stated that "It is a generic term"

You respond saying "The name caught on. You know, like "xerox
this" instead of "make a photocopy of this".

I repeat, Why do you seem so intent on exhibiting your ignorance?

John B. Slocomb
(johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)
 
A

Alias

Flightless Bird
John B. Slocomb wrote:
> On Sun, 16 May 2010 12:15:17 +0200, Alias
> <aka@hewhoismasked&anonymous.com> wrote:
>
>> On 05/16/2010 04:03 AM, John B. Slocomb wrote:
>>> On Sat, 15 May 2010 16:02:52 +0200, Alias
>>> <aka@maskedandanymous.org.invalido> wrote:
>>>
>>>> John B. Slocomb wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 15 May 2010 13:18:44 +0200, Alias
>>>>> <aka@hewhoismasked&anonymous.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 05/15/2010 05:40 AM, John B. Slocomb wrote:
>>>>>>> On Fri, 14 May 2010 18:53:28 +0200, Jackie<Jackie@an.on> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 5/14/2010 18:10, Heywood Jablowme wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Who the hell wants to run Windows applications in Ubuntu and who the
>>>>>>>>> hell would want to run them under WHINE? If you need Microsoft
>>>>>>>>> applications, and most people want MS apps, then use Windows. No need to
>>>>>>>>> use that INFERIOR Ubuntu that nobody wants.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ubuntu was written by geeks for geeks who can't get laid.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Having *options* is a very good thing.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It can be nice if you want to use Ubuntu and you actually have that
>>>>>>>> option to use them via an emulator (Wine, CXGames, Cedega).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Having used Windows since Windows 95 up until present version and not
>>>>>>>> much Linux, I wouldn't exactly say that Ubuntu is bad. Overall, I
>>>>>>>> personally feel that Windows is more complete. But... Windows still
>>>>>>>> lacks essential features that Ubuntu has pre-installed. I, for one,
>>>>>>>> think that finding and installing applications and the best drivers
>>>>>>>> could (and should) be easier in Windows. There's a potential solution
>>>>>>>> for this if you could gather developers and their products into one
>>>>>>>> place. There were no good solution in Windows as early as in (most?)
>>>>>>>> Linux distros (and still not now). I believe that is why applications
>>>>>>>> for Windows are so spread without a good, easy, built-in way to find,
>>>>>>>> browse and install them from one single place.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think that one of the reasons for the "Oh! Linux can do anything
>>>>>>> that Windows can" fiction is that most of the people using either
>>>>>>> system aren't using it professionally.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> One of the major reasons is that the vast majority of the business
>>>>>>> world uses Windows and the associated applications. If you do a job
>>>>>>> for most companies you will run head on into the fact that your Linux
>>>>>>> system doesn't match their Windows.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Almost every project I have been on used Auto-Cad and during
>>>>>>> construction of a project there are innumerable changes in the
>>>>>>> drawings. The normal practice is to e-mail complete drawings back and
>>>>>>> forth between the Engineering Office and the Field. Up-dated drawing
>>>>>>> going out to the Field and marked up drawings showing the "As-builts"
>>>>>>> sent back.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Frequently if one writes a report the company will request that both a
>>>>>>> printed report and a disk copy be furnished, particularly if any form
>>>>>>> of legal problems are anticipated. And, with extremely rare exceptions
>>>>>>> they want the disks in "Word format".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is all well and good to say "Well, Open Office can do the job", but
>>>>>>> if you deliver a Linux formatted disk with a OO document on it you
>>>>>>> will probably be told in no uncertain terms that it is not what you
>>>>>>> contracted to do.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Of course Auto-Cad will run on Linux using Wine but how big a data
>>>>>>> file can it handle? Are you sure that it can edit the largest drawing
>>>>>>> that the Engineers want to send? If you are out in the middle of a 100
>>>>>>> Sq. Km. sugar cane plantation in the middle of Java building a gas
>>>>>>> plant for the National Oil Company it is not really a good time to
>>>>>>> discover that you can't do your job because Linux won't do it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No, as long as windows is the dominant computer operating system Linux
>>>>>>> is never going to be a wholly acceptable system..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> John B. Slocomb
>>>>>>> (johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You're right. Some things can only be done with Windows, at least for
>>>>>> now. My point is that most HOME USERS can do everything they do with
>>>>>> Windows but more securely if they use Ubuntu or another Linux distro.
>>>>>
>>>>> I just installed Fedora 13 (beta) on my Granddaughter's game computer
>>>>> - dual boot, Win 7 and Fedora - and set up Clamav to do periodic virus
>>>>> scans on the Linux partition. Thought I'd give the kid a fighting
>>>>> chance so changed things around a bit so that Linux could see the
>>>>> windows directory and set up Clamav to scan that partition too.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is a machine that a 7 year old girl uses and has the installed
>>>>> Win 7 firewall and whatever they call it that won't let you run a
>>>>> program without clicking on yet another permission box. Probably not
>>>>> earth shaking protection.
>>>>>
>>>>> Results - no virus.
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually, I have had one serious virus in something like 20 years and
>>>>> I got that one from a bootleg copied disk. I use a firewall and do
>>>>> periodic virus scans but frankly I have never had a problem with
>>>>> mal-ware or virus that effected the operations of the computer.
>>>>>
>>>>> My own suspicions are that these people who have massive problems with
>>>>> mal-ware or virus are very likely not using a decent firewall or are
>>>>> downloading a lot of porn and warz.
>>>>>
>>>>> John B. Slocomb
>>>>> (johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)
>>>>
>>>> You're forgetting about not updating Windows, Java, Flash, etc. as
>>>> causes. That's the beautiful thing about Linux: the updates update
>>>> everything you have installed if you configure it properly. Once I had
>>>
>>> That sounds quite modern - automatic updates. Of course Windows offers
>>> that service, if you want it.
>>> However I consider it a bit risky as at least twice I have updated
>>> Linux and in one case OpenOffice stopped running and in another the
>>> Nvidia display stopped working.
>>>
>>> Hardly the miracle that you represent it to be.
>>
>> Not my experience and you are expecting me to believe you without any
>> proof? Can you say "hypocrite"?
>>
>>>
>>>> to clean up an XP machine that had never been defragged (customer:
>>>> what's that?) or updated (customer: what's that?). It took over ten
>>>> minutes to boot up and once it booted, pop up Windows had a fucking
>>>> field day. I ended up reinstalling XP because there was just too much
>>>> malware to deal with and there was no guarantee that the AV and other
>>>> anti malware programs would completely remove all malware.
>>>
>>> You seem to be talking about three different things here. (1),
>>> updating software; (2), de fragmenting a disk; and (3), mal-ware. None
>>> of which have any relationship to the other.
>>
>> I was giving an example of a Windows box that wasn't updated and what
>> happens to Windows boxes that don't update. The lack of defragging was
>> just another sign of how many home users "maintain" their computers.
>
> So not defraging the disk is a sign of an ignorant, lazy, Windows
> user?

Ignorant, yes. Lazy, no.

>
> So tell us oh Great and Omnipotent Ubuntu User; how often do you
> defrag your Linux disks?

Never.

>
> If a failure to defrag a Windows disk is a mortal sin then it must be
> equally true for the Ubuntu User.

No, it isn't.

>
> John B. Slocomb
> (johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)

You must have had 12 cups of coffee you're pissing so much.
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Alias

Flightless Bird
Death wrote:
>
> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanymous.org.invalido> wrote in message
> news:hsok70$u7i$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>> Death wrote:
>>>
>>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanymous.org.invalido> wrote in message
>>> news:hsoipq$pog$3@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>> Death wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> "DanS" <t.h.i.s.n.t.h.a.t@r.o.a.d.r.u.n.n.e.r.c.o.m> wrote in message
>>>>> news:Xns9D79D2D15CF9Fthisnthatroadrunnern@216.196.97.131...
>>>>>> Bob I <birelan@yahoo.com> wrote in
>>>>>> news:H6GHn.4871$yx.324@newsfe13.iad:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The reason that "Linux" isn't targeted is that there aren't
>>>>>>> enough installations to bother with. Lets face it, if the
>>>>>>> Mariposa botnet was counted as separate OS, it would have
>>>>>>> more users than Linux!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You are confirming is that Windows is the imminent target of
>>>>>> spyware/malware writers ? (Which was the original point of this
>>>>>> thread branch.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It doesn't matter why. At this time, Windows is more susceptible
>>>>>> than Linux.
>>>>>
>>>>> People with money are more likely to be robbed.
>>>>
>>>> Are you saying that all Windows users are rich and all Linux users are
>>>> poor or what?
>>>>
>>>
>>> I'm not saying that, though now that you've put it out there, perhaps
>>> you have a good point.
>>>
>>> What I'm saying is surely it would make sense that writers of malware
>>> would target a system with the most users.
>>> Just as a robber would target places where money is.
>>> Robbers that target the homeless are just homeless robbers...they don't
>>> really profit from their bad deeds.
>>
>> More like the robbers would rob someone with their Windows open.
>>
>>>
>>> But, come to think of it...Linux servers get hacked all the time...
>>
>> Got proof?
>>
>
> Not in my pocket.
> You may Google "Linux servers Hacked" and read all the resulting links
> for the next couple of years.
> Knock yourself out.
> It happens, dummy.

I've done that and in all cases, it was due to user error, not the OS.

>
>>> and
>>> Linux users wouldn't even know if they've been hacked, as the system is
>>> already so buggy to begin with.
>>
>> Bullshit.
>>
>>> Did a hack cause that lock up?
>>> Or is compiz acting flaky again?
>>>
>>
>> Servers don't use Compiz.
>>
>
> Since I said "users" ... most Linux users don't run servers.
> Some do though.
>

You wrote "servers" initially and all servers need users to run them.

--
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Alias

Flightless Bird
John B. Slocomb wrote:
> On Sun, 16 May 2010 12:49:36 +0200, Alias
> <aka@maskedandanymous.org.invalido> wrote:
>
>> John B. Slocomb wrote:
>>> On Sat, 15 May 2010 16:15:24 +0200, Alias
>>> <aka@maskedandanymous.org.invalido> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Death wrote:
>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> John B. Slocomb wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sat, 15 May 2010 13:18:44 +0200, Alias
>>>>>>> <aka@hewhoismasked&anonymous.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 05/15/2010 05:40 AM, John B. Slocomb wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 14 May 2010 18:53:28 +0200, Jackie<Jackie@an.on> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 5/14/2010 18:10, Heywood Jablowme wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Who the hell wants to run Windows applications in Ubuntu and who the
>>>>>>>>>>> hell would want to run them under WHINE? If you need Microsoft
>>>>>>>>>>> applications, and most people want MS apps, then use Windows. No need to
>>>>>>>>>>> use that INFERIOR Ubuntu that nobody wants.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Ubuntu was written by geeks for geeks who can't get laid.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Having *options* is a very good thing.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It can be nice if you want to use Ubuntu and you actually have that
>>>>>>>>>> option to use them via an emulator (Wine, CXGames, Cedega).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Having used Windows since Windows 95 up until present version and not
>>>>>>>>>> much Linux, I wouldn't exactly say that Ubuntu is bad. Overall, I
>>>>>>>>>> personally feel that Windows is more complete. But... Windows still
>>>>>>>>>> lacks essential features that Ubuntu has pre-installed. I, for one,
>>>>>>>>>> think that finding and installing applications and the best drivers
>>>>>>>>>> could (and should) be easier in Windows. There's a potential solution
>>>>>>>>>> for this if you could gather developers and their products into one
>>>>>>>>>> place. There were no good solution in Windows as early as in (most?)
>>>>>>>>>> Linux distros (and still not now). I believe that is why applications
>>>>>>>>>> for Windows are so spread without a good, easy, built-in way to find,
>>>>>>>>>> browse and install them from one single place.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think that one of the reasons for the "Oh! Linux can do anything
>>>>>>>>> that Windows can" fiction is that most of the people using either
>>>>>>>>> system aren't using it professionally.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> One of the major reasons is that the vast majority of the business
>>>>>>>>> world uses Windows and the associated applications. If you do a job
>>>>>>>>> for most companies you will run head on into the fact that your Linux
>>>>>>>>> system doesn't match their Windows.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Almost every project I have been on used Auto-Cad and during
>>>>>>>>> construction of a project there are innumerable changes in the
>>>>>>>>> drawings. The normal practice is to e-mail complete drawings back and
>>>>>>>>> forth between the Engineering Office and the Field. Up-dated drawing
>>>>>>>>> going out to the Field and marked up drawings showing the "As-builts"
>>>>>>>>> sent back.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Frequently if one writes a report the company will request that both a
>>>>>>>>> printed report and a disk copy be furnished, particularly if any form
>>>>>>>>> of legal problems are anticipated. And, with extremely rare exceptions
>>>>>>>>> they want the disks in "Word format".
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It is all well and good to say "Well, Open Office can do the job", but
>>>>>>>>> if you deliver a Linux formatted disk with a OO document on it you
>>>>>>>>> will probably be told in no uncertain terms that it is not what you
>>>>>>>>> contracted to do.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Of course Auto-Cad will run on Linux using Wine but how big a data
>>>>>>>>> file can it handle? Are you sure that it can edit the largest drawing
>>>>>>>>> that the Engineers want to send? If you are out in the middle of a 100
>>>>>>>>> Sq. Km. sugar cane plantation in the middle of Java building a gas
>>>>>>>>> plant for the National Oil Company it is not really a good time to
>>>>>>>>> discover that you can't do your job because Linux won't do it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No, as long as windows is the dominant computer operating system Linux
>>>>>>>>> is never going to be a wholly acceptable system..
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> John B. Slocomb
>>>>>>>>> (johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You're right. Some things can only be done with Windows, at least for
>>>>>>>> now. My point is that most HOME USERS can do everything they do with
>>>>>>>> Windows but more securely if they use Ubuntu or another Linux distro.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I just installed Fedora 13 (beta) on my Granddaughter's game computer
>>>>>>> - dual boot, Win 7 and Fedora - and set up Clamav to do periodic virus
>>>>>>> scans on the Linux partition. Thought I'd give the kid a fighting
>>>>>>> chance so changed things around a bit so that Linux could see the
>>>>>>> windows directory and set up Clamav to scan that partition too.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is a machine that a 7 year old girl uses and has the installed
>>>>>>> Win 7 firewall and whatever they call it that won't let you run a
>>>>>>> program without clicking on yet another permission box. Probably not
>>>>>>> earth shaking protection.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Results - no virus.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Actually, I have had one serious virus in something like 20 years and
>>>>>>> I got that one from a bootleg copied disk. I use a firewall and do
>>>>>>> periodic virus scans but frankly I have never had a problem with
>>>>>>> mal-ware or virus that effected the operations of the computer.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My own suspicions are that these people who have massive problems with
>>>>>>> mal-ware or virus are very likely not using a decent firewall or are
>>>>>>> downloading a lot of porn and warz.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> John B. Slocomb
>>>>>>> (johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You're forgetting about not updating Windows, Java, Flash, etc. as
>>>>>> causes. That's the beautiful thing about Linux: the updates update
>>>>>> everything you have installed if you configure it properly.
>>>>>
>>>>> Windows,java,Flash,whatever-your-heart-desires gets updated in Windows
>>>>> automatically,dummy.
>>>>> Do you actual run Windows, or do you just despise it?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Once I had
>>>>>> to clean up an XP machine that had never been defragged (customer:
>>>>>> what's that?) or updated (customer: what's that?). It took over ten
>>>>>> minutes to boot up and once it booted, pop up Windows had a fucking
>>>>>> field day. I ended up reinstalling XP because there was just too much
>>>>>> malware to deal with and there was no guarantee that the AV and other
>>>>>> anti malware programs would completely remove all malware.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You re-installed XP cause that is your skill level...stick a DVD/live-CD
>>>>> in a tray, call it "support".
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh, and Warez went out of business almost a decade ago. The new sites
>>>>>> are www.PirateBay.org and www.Torrents.to. Where I live it is LEGAL to
>>>>>> download from those sites as long as you don't plan on selling what you
>>>>>> download. The so-called loss that the audio and video companies
>>>>>> supposedly suffer is made up by a charge on every single blank CD or DVD
>>>>>> that you buy. Quite sensible, really. I would never download software
>>>>>> from there because we are talking about millions of files. Audio and
>>>>>> video, OTOH, can be scanned before running and I've never had a problem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It's still all called "warez", dummy.
>>>>
>>>> Only by dummies like you.
>>>>
>>>>> You and your pendantic ass.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Warez was a specific group and they got busted. You probably also ask
>>>> for a "Xerox" copy when you should say photo copy.
>>>
>>>
>>> Alias, go to google (www.google.com) and type "warez" (without the
>>> inverted commas) into the search block. You'll get thousands of hits
>>> on God only knows how many sites.
>>>
>>> It is a generic term.
>>>
>>> Why do you insist on displaying your ignorance?
>>>
>>> John B. Slocomb
>>> (johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)
>>
>> Originally it was a group. The name caught on. You know, like "xerox
>> this" instead of "make a photocopy of this". Of course, you only are
>> this picky because you're extremely concerned that you might not win
>> your pissing contest, the ONLY reason you reply to me or anyone else for
>> that matter.
>
>
> Lets see: I used the term warz [sic] to describe copied software.
>
> Alias then announced that "Warez went out of business almost a decade
> ago" whereupon I stated that "It is a generic term"
>
> You respond saying "The name caught on. You know, like "xerox
> this" instead of "make a photocopy of this".
>
> I repeat, Why do you seem so intent on exhibiting your ignorance?
>
> John B. Slocomb
> (johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)

Projecting will get you nowhere. Pissing won't get you anywhere either.

--
Alias
 
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DanS

Flightless Bird

>>
>> It doesn't matter why. At this time, Windows is more
>> susceptible than Linux.
>
> People with money are more likely to be robbed.
> No duh...moron.
> Were you born stupid, or did a brick land in your brain
> cavity?

Again....nothing intelligent to say.
 
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Death

Flightless Bird
"Alias" <aka@maskedandanymous.org.invalido> wrote in message
news:hsolns$aoh$2@news.eternal-september.org...
> Death wrote:
>>
>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanymous.org.invalido> wrote in message
>> news:hsok70$u7i$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>> Death wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanymous.org.invalido> wrote in message
>>>> news:hsoipq$pog$3@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>> Death wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "DanS" <t.h.i.s.n.t.h.a.t@r.o.a.d.r.u.n.n.e.r.c.o.m> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:Xns9D79D2D15CF9Fthisnthatroadrunnern@216.196.97.131...
>>>>>>> Bob I <birelan@yahoo.com> wrote in
>>>>>>> news:H6GHn.4871$yx.324@newsfe13.iad:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The reason that "Linux" isn't targeted is that there aren't
>>>>>>>> enough installations to bother with. Lets face it, if the
>>>>>>>> Mariposa botnet was counted as separate OS, it would have
>>>>>>>> more users than Linux!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You are confirming is that Windows is the imminent target of
>>>>>>> spyware/malware writers ? (Which was the original point of this
>>>>>>> thread branch.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It doesn't matter why. At this time, Windows is more susceptible
>>>>>>> than Linux.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> People with money are more likely to be robbed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you saying that all Windows users are rich and all Linux users are
>>>>> poor or what?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm not saying that, though now that you've put it out there, perhaps
>>>> you have a good point.
>>>>
>>>> What I'm saying is surely it would make sense that writers of malware
>>>> would target a system with the most users.
>>>> Just as a robber would target places where money is.
>>>> Robbers that target the homeless are just homeless robbers...they don't
>>>> really profit from their bad deeds.
>>>
>>> More like the robbers would rob someone with their Windows open.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> But, come to think of it...Linux servers get hacked all the time...
>>>
>>> Got proof?
>>>
>>
>> Not in my pocket.
>> You may Google "Linux servers Hacked" and read all the resulting links
>> for the next couple of years.
>> Knock yourself out.
>> It happens, dummy.
>
> I've done that and in all cases, it was due to user error, not the OS.
>

You hen pecked 2 of 3,650,000.
Keep reading.

>>
>>>> and
>>>> Linux users wouldn't even know if they've been hacked, as the system is
>>>> already so buggy to begin with.
>>>
>>> Bullshit.
>>>
>>>> Did a hack cause that lock up?
>>>> Or is compiz acting flaky again?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Servers don't use Compiz.
>>>
>>
>> Since I said "users" ... most Linux users don't run servers.
>> Some do though.
>>
>
> You wrote "servers" initially and all servers need users to run them.
>

I wrote server, then through the magic of intellectual thought and ellipsis,
I wrote Linux users.
You even broke my sentence between the two.
You squirrely tailed pendant.

--
Vita brevis breviter in brevi finietur,
Mors venit velociter quae neminem veretur.
 
J

John B. Slocomb

Flightless Bird
On Sun, 16 May 2010 12:11:01 +0200, Alias
<aka@hewhoismasked&anonymous.com> wrote:

>On 05/16/2010 04:17 AM, John B. Slocomb wrote:
>> On Sat, 15 May 2010 18:14:54 +0200, Alias
>> <aka@maskedandanymous.org.invalido> wrote:
>>
>>> Death wrote:
>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 05/15/2010 04:27 PM, Death wrote:
>>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Death wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> SNIP
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Windows,java,Flash,whatever-your-heart-desires gets updated in Windows
>>>>>>>> automatically,dummy.
>>>>>>>> Do you actual run Windows, or do you just despise it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You're wrong on all counts.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dumbass.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wrong again.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Java will update itself...flash will update itself...
>>>
>>> No, it won't.
>>>
>>>> Windows and
>>>> Office will update itself.
>>>
>>> Only if it's configured to update itself.
>>>
>>
>> Ah... You are the one that said Linux would update itself "IF IT WAS
>> CONFIGURED TO".
>
>I was referring to programs that are not installed by default and the
>repository needs to be added.
>
>>
>> If that is an asset in Linux why is it that you don't accept that it
>> is an asset in windows?
>>
>> John B. Slocomb
>> (johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)
>
>It's getting better in Windows but you still need to get updates from
>more than one source, unlike Linux. You see, for home users, the less
>complicated you make it, the better for the home user and the safer for
>everyone on the Net. But you don't care about that. All you care about
>is winning a pissing contest with someone.


You are a Linux user and you never install a program using the source
code? If you have I'm sure you must have noticed that those programs
are not upgraded automatically.

If I read your statement correctly you are condemning the "home
computer user" to mediocrity.

I must associate with a better class of people then you do as I've
known "home Users", i.e., non computer professionals, who were
certainly as knowledgeable as you have demonstrated yourself to be.

John B. Slocomb
(johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)
 
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DanS

Flightless Bird
>> It doesn't matter why. At this time, Windows is more
>> susceptible than Linux.
>
> People with money are more likely to be robbed.
> No duh...moron.
> Were you born stupid, or did a brick land in your brain
> cavity?
>

And just so I'm completely clear, *you* have nothing intelligent
to say, so you just spit out insults and an insinuation that
Linux users are poor.

.........you are a Linux user also.
 
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Death

Flightless Bird
"DanS" <t.h.i.s.n.t.h.a.t@r.o.a.d.r.u.n.n.e.r.c.o.m> wrote in message
news:Xns9D7A5028296B1thisnthatroadrunnern@216.196.97.131...
>
>>>
>>> It doesn't matter why. At this time, Windows is more
>>> susceptible than Linux.
>>
>> People with money are more likely to be robbed.
>> No duh...moron.
>> Were you born stupid, or did a brick land in your brain
>> cavity?
>
> Again....nothing intelligent to say.
>

Nothing intelligent to go up against.
It is an obvious, undeniable, indisputable fact that Windows and its 90%
market share will get targeted.
There is nothing to argue there, moron.
And then there is usability by masses of people... something Windows must
concern itself with, and Linux (obviously) does not.

--
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Mors venit velociter quae neminem veretur.
 
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