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Which is Safer, Windows, Apple or Linux regarding malware?

A

Alias

Flightless Bird
From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_virus

"The vulnerability of operating systems to viruses

Just as genetic diversity in a population decreases the chance of a
single disease wiping out a population, the diversity of software
systems on a network similarly limits the destructive potential of viruses.

This became a particular concern in the 1990s, when Microsoft gained
market dominance in desktop operating systems and office suites. The
users of Microsoft software (especially networking software such as
Microsoft Outlook and Internet Explorer) are especially vulnerable to
the spread of viruses. Microsoft software is targeted by virus writers
due to their desktop dominance, and is often criticized for including
many errors and holes for virus writers to exploit. Integrated and
non-integrated Microsoft applications (such as Microsoft Office) and
applications with scripting languages with access to the file system
(for example Visual Basic Script (VBS), and applications with networking
features) are also particularly vulnerable.

Although Windows is by far the most popular operating system for virus
writers, some viruses also exist on other platforms. Any operating
system that allows third-party programs to run can theoretically run
viruses. Some operating systems are less secure than others. Unix-based
OS's (and NTFS-aware applications on Windows NT based platforms) only
allow their users to run executables within their own protected memory
space.

An Internet based research revealed that there were cases when people
willingly pressed a particular button to download a virus. Security
analyst Didier Stevens ran a half year advertising campaign on Google
AdWords which said "Is your PC virus-free? Get it infected here!". The
result was 409 clicks.[18][19]

As of 2006[update], there are relatively few security exploits targeting
Mac OS X (with a Unix-based file system and kernel).[20] The number of
viruses for the older Apple operating systems, known as Mac OS Classic,
varies greatly from source to source, with Apple stating that there are
only four known viruses, and independent sources stating there are as
many as 63 viruses. Many Mac OS Classic viruses targeted the HyperCard
authoring environment. Virus vulnerability between Macs and Windows is a
chief selling point, one that Apple uses in their Get a Mac
advertising.[21] In January 2009, Symantec announced discovery of a
trojan that targets Macs.[22] This discovery did not gain much coverage
until April 2009.[22]

While Linux, and Unix in general, has always natively blocked normal
users from having access to make changes to the operating system
environment, Windows users are generally not. This difference has
continued partly due to the widespread use of administrator accounts in
contemporary versions like XP. In 1997, when a virus for Linux was
released – known as "Bliss" – leading antivirus vendors issued warnings
that Unix-like systems could fall prey to viruses just like Windows.[23]
The Bliss virus may be considered characteristic of viruses – as opposed
to worms – on Unix systems. Bliss requires that the user run it
explicitly (so it is a trojan), and it can only infect programs that the
user has the access to modify. Unlike Windows users, most Unix users do
not log in as an administrator user except to install or configure
software; as a result, even if a user ran the virus, it could not harm
their operating system. The Bliss virus never became widespread, and
remains chiefly a research curiosity. Its creator later posted the
source code to Usenet, allowing researchers to see how it worked.[24]"

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Alias
 
F

Frank

Flightless Bird
On 3/7/2010 11:42 AM, Alias wrote:
--snip--

Yawn
 
S

Spring Sprung

Flightless Bird
Um, yeah, Vista has since come and gone, Alias, it's Windows 7 now. The
article just doesn't apply.

"Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.com.invalido> wrote in message
news:hn0vj2$hvg$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_virus
>
> "The vulnerability of operating systems to viruses
> < Drivel chopped> --
> Alias
 
G

Gordon

Flightless Bird
"Spring Sprung" <spring.sprung@not.an.address.net> wrote in message
news:hn103d$d06$1@speranza.aioe.org...
> Um, yeah, Vista has since come and gone, Alias, it's Windows 7 now. The
> article just doesn't apply.


Do you work for MS?
 
S

Spring Sprung

Flightless Bird
No. Of course not. I've never received one red cent in pay, nor goods or
services from Microsoft that I haven't paid for.

My point is that the article relies on old assumptions e.g.:

contemporary versions like XP
.

It makes assumptions about Windows that were addressed since and already by
Windows Vista - which itself has come and gone.



"Gordon" <gordonbparker@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:hn12qn$v0o$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>
> "Spring Sprung" <spring.sprung@not.an.address.net> wrote in message
> news:hn103d$d06$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>> Um, yeah, Vista has since come and gone, Alias, it's Windows 7 now. The
>> article just doesn't apply.

>
> Do you work for MS?
 
G

Gordon

Flightless Bird
"Spring Sprung" <spring.sprung@not.an.address.net> wrote in message
news:hn14ec$kmm$1@speranza.aioe.org...
> No. Of course not. I've never received one red cent in pay, nor goods or
> services from Microsoft that I haven't paid for.


Then you seem to be surprisingly partisan for nothing.
 
A

Alias

Flightless Bird
Gordon wrote:
>
> "Spring Sprung" <spring.sprung@not.an.address.net> wrote in message
> news:hn103d$d06$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>> Um, yeah, Vista has since come and gone, Alias, it's Windows 7 now.
>> The article just doesn't apply.

>
> Do you work for MS?


It's the Nymshifter, aka Bill Yanaire, Spanky da Monkey ad nauseum.

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Alias
 
F

Frank

Flightless Bird
On 3/7/2010 1:11 PM, Alias wrote:
> Gordon wrote:
>>
>> "Spring Sprung" <spring.sprung@not.an.address.net> wrote in message
>> news:hn103d$d06$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>>> Um, yeah, Vista has since come and gone, Alias, it's Windows 7 now.
>>> The article just doesn't apply.

>>
>> Do you work for MS?

>
> It's the Nymshifter, aka Bill Yanaire, Spanky da Monkey ad nauseum.
>


And who are you? Why its alias, the MS hating FUD spreading POS lying
linturd asshole loser.
Oops!
 
D

Drew

Flightless Bird
Hey Numbnuts, No one here gives a flyin fuck as to the crap you post! Any
INTELLIGENT computer owner or operator thereof is going to be careful of
where they go and what they do.
Anyone DUMB enough to allow there computer to run or become infected does
not deserve to own said computer. That is like leaving your vehicle unlocked
with the keys in the ignition, It is something you just do not do. You say
Linux is the best, Fine then go fuckin play with it and quit posting your
crap here! Linux will never be anything more than a toy for the desktop.
Servers may be different but not for the desktop..



"Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.com.invalido> wrote in message
news:hn0vj2$hvg$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_virus
>
> "The vulnerability of operating systems to viruses
>
> Just as genetic diversity in a population decreases the chance of a single
> disease wiping out a population, the diversity of software systems on a
> network similarly limits the destructive potential of viruses.
>
> This became a particular concern in the 1990s, when Microsoft gained
> market dominance in desktop operating systems and office suites. The users
> of Microsoft software (especially networking software such as Microsoft
> Outlook and Internet Explorer) are especially vulnerable to the spread of
> viruses. Microsoft software is targeted by virus writers due to their
> desktop dominance, and is often criticized for including many errors and
> holes for virus writers to exploit. Integrated and non-integrated
> Microsoft applications (such as Microsoft Office) and applications with
> scripting languages with access to the file system (for example Visual
> Basic Script (VBS), and applications with networking features) are also
> particularly vulnerable.
>
> Although Windows is by far the most popular operating system for virus
> writers, some viruses also exist on other platforms. Any operating system
> that allows third-party programs to run can theoretically run viruses.
> Some operating systems are less secure than others. Unix-based OS's (and
> NTFS-aware applications on Windows NT based platforms) only allow their
> users to run executables within their own protected memory space.
>
> An Internet based research revealed that there were cases when people
> willingly pressed a particular button to download a virus. Security
> analyst Didier Stevens ran a half year advertising campaign on Google
> AdWords which said "Is your PC virus-free? Get it infected here!". The
> result was 409 clicks.[18][19]
>
> As of 2006[update], there are relatively few security exploits targeting
> Mac OS X (with a Unix-based file system and kernel).[20] The number of
> viruses for the older Apple operating systems, known as Mac OS Classic,
> varies greatly from source to source, with Apple stating that there are
> only four known viruses, and independent sources stating there are as many
> as 63 viruses. Many Mac OS Classic viruses targeted the HyperCard
> authoring environment. Virus vulnerability between Macs and Windows is a
> chief selling point, one that Apple uses in their Get a Mac
> advertising.[21] In January 2009, Symantec announced discovery of a trojan
> that targets Macs.[22] This discovery did not gain much coverage until
> April 2009.[22]
>
> While Linux, and Unix in general, has always natively blocked normal users
> from having access to make changes to the operating system environment,
> Windows users are generally not. This difference has continued partly due
> to the widespread use of administrator accounts in contemporary versions
> like XP. In 1997, when a virus for Linux was released – known as "Bliss" –
> leading antivirus vendors issued warnings that Unix-like systems could
> fall prey to viruses just like Windows.[23] The Bliss virus may be
> considered characteristic of viruses – as opposed to worms – on Unix
> systems. Bliss requires that the user run it explicitly (so it is a
> trojan), and it can only infect programs that the user has the access to
> modify. Unlike Windows users, most Unix users do not log in as an
> administrator user except to install or configure software; as a result,
> even if a user ran the virus, it could not harm their operating system.
> The Bliss virus never became widespread, and remains chiefly a research
> curiosity. Its creator later posted the source code to Usenet, allowing
> researchers to see how it worked.[24]"
>
> --
> Alias
 
G

Gordon

Flightless Bird
"Drew" <Aylen1957@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:hn1c4s$2nc$1@speranza.aioe.org...
> Hey Numbnuts, No one here gives a flyin fuck as to the crap you post! Any
> INTELLIGENT computer owner or operator thereof is going to be careful of
> where they go and what they do.


But 95% of WINDOWS users AREN'T intelligent. That's the problem.
 
F

Frank

Flightless Bird
On 3/7/2010 3:21 PM, Gordon wrote:
>
> "Drew" <Aylen1957@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:hn1c4s$2nc$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>> Hey Numbnuts, No one here gives a flyin fuck as to the crap you post!
>> Any INTELLIGENT computer owner or operator thereof is going to be
>> careful of where they go and what they do.

>
> But 95% of WINDOWS users AREN'T intelligent. That's the problem.


Speak for yourself gordo!
 
A

Alias

Flightless Bird
Drew wrote:
> Hey Numbnuts, No one here gives a flyin fuck as to the crap you post!


Then don't read or reply to my posts. Very simple, really.


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Alias
 
A

Alias

Flightless Bird
Gordon wrote:
>
> "Drew" <Aylen1957@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:hn1c4s$2nc$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>> Hey Numbnuts, No one here gives a flyin fuck as to the crap you post!
>> Any INTELLIGENT computer owner or operator thereof is going to be
>> careful of where they go and what they do.

>
> But 95% of WINDOWS users AREN'T intelligent. That's the problem.


More like ignorant and think that IT stuff is for IT people. As one of
my clients told me, I don't WANT to learn how to fix it; I just want it
to work! When I explained the minimal requirements to keep Ubuntu secure
versus Windows, he said, "put Ubuntu on" and hasn't looked back since.

--
Alias
 
F

Frank

Flightless Bird
On 3/7/2010 4:12 PM, Alias wrote:
> Drew wrote:
>> Hey Numbnuts, No one here gives a flyin fuck as to the crap you post!

>
> Then don't read or reply to my posts. Very simple, really.
>
>


So said the fucking lying, spamming, trolling, linturd asshole POS loser.
 
F

Frank

Flightless Bird
On 3/7/2010 4:15 PM, Alias wrote:
> Gordon wrote:
>>
>> "Drew" <Aylen1957@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>> news:hn1c4s$2nc$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>>> Hey Numbnuts, No one here gives a flyin fuck as to the crap you post!
>>> Any INTELLIGENT computer owner or operator thereof is going to be
>>> careful of where they go and what they do.

>>
>> But 95% of WINDOWS users AREN'T intelligent. That's the problem.

>
> More like ignorant and think that IT stuff is for IT people. As one of
> my clients told me, I don't WANT to learn how to fix it; I just want it
> to work! When I explained the minimal requirements to keep Ubuntu secure
> versus Windows, he said, "put Ubuntu on" and hasn't looked back since.
>

Too bad no one believes one word you post.
Oops!...LOL!
Fucking LIAR!
 
G

Gordon

Flightless Bird
"Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.com.invalido> wrote in message
news:hn1fio$4j9$3@news.eternal-september.org...
> Gordon wrote:
>>
>> "Drew" <Aylen1957@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>> news:hn1c4s$2nc$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>>> Hey Numbnuts, No one here gives a flyin fuck as to the crap you post!
>>> Any INTELLIGENT computer owner or operator thereof is going to be
>>> careful of where they go and what they do.

>>
>> But 95% of WINDOWS users AREN'T intelligent. That's the problem.

>
> More like ignorant and think that IT stuff is for IT people. As one of my
> clients told me, I don't WANT to learn how to fix it; I just want it to
> work! When I explained the minimal requirements to keep Ubuntu secure
> versus Windows, he said, "put Ubuntu on" and hasn't looked back since.


I can quite believe that!
 
C

cj

Flightless Bird
Gordon wrote:
>
> "Drew" <Aylen1957@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:hn1c4s$2nc$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>> Hey Numbnuts, No one here gives a flyin fuck as to the crap you post!
>> Any INTELLIGENT computer owner or operator thereof is going to be
>> careful of where they go and what they do.

>
> But 95% of WINDOWS users AREN'T intelligent. That's the problem.

Ahh, but have enough intelligence to to stay away from Linux:)
 
A

Andrew

Flightless Bird
This became a particular concern in the 1990s, when Microsoft gained
market dominance in desktop operating systems and office suites

Microsoft software is targeted by virus writers
due to their desktop dominance,

-----

You argue that Market Share has nothing to do with anything, yet you post an
article citing market dominance as a major concern.

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Andrew
 
G

Gordon

Flightless Bird
"cj" <cj@crackerJax.com> wrote in message
news:4b94523f$0$15681$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
> Gordon wrote:
>>
>> "Drew" <Aylen1957@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>> news:hn1c4s$2nc$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>>> Hey Numbnuts, No one here gives a flyin fuck as to the crap you post!
>>> Any INTELLIGENT computer owner or operator thereof is going to be
>>> careful of where they go and what they do.

>>
>> But 95% of WINDOWS users AREN'T intelligent. That's the problem.

> Ahh, but have enough intelligence to to stay away from Linux:)


So you equate ignorance with intelligence? God help the human race.
 
A

Alias

Flightless Bird
Andrew wrote:
>
> This became a particular concern in the 1990s, when Microsoft gained
> market dominance in desktop operating systems and office suites
>
> Microsoft software is targeted by virus writers
> due to their desktop dominance,
>
> -----
>
> You argue that Market Share has nothing to do with anything, yet you
> post an article citing market dominance as a major concern.
>


And the reason you quoted it out of context is? Could it be that
otherwise it wouldn't suit your purposes?

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Alias
 
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