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We all knew this was coming. MS to shut down news servers.

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Frank

Flightless Bird
alias doesn't know why he is in here!

On 5/5/2010 10:45 AM, Alias wrote:
> On 05/05/2010 07:19 PM, Heywood Jablowme wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanymous.org.invalido> wrote in message
>> news:hrs6ul$bi8$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>> Heywood Jablowme wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.com.¡nvalido> wrote in message
>>>> news:hrs64k$3pj$2@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>> On 05/04/2010 10:34 PM, milt wrote:
>>>>>> Here it is.
>>>>>> http://community.winsupersite.com/b...-transitioning-from-newsgroups-to-forums.aspx
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> They're doing it because most of their users don't even know what
>>>>> Usenet is and most ISPs have discontinued Usenet access. It also gives
>>>>> them more control. It has *nothing* to do with trolls like Frank,
>>>>> Death and the Nymshifter.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Alias
>>>>
>>>> They are doing it because of idiots like yourself who pollute the
>>>> forums
>>>> with your Ubuntu bullshit! It's about time!
>>>
>>> No, they're not. Most Windows users have never heard of Usenet or
>>> Usenet trolls like you who only lies and spreads FUD and never helps
>>> anyone. If I were polite and went on their web forums and mentioned
>>> Ubuntu, the only people who would have a hissy fit would be you and
>>> your low life buddy Frank.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Alias
>>
>> Most Windows users don't want anything to do with Ubuntu regardless of
>> which forum they are in.
>
> Not true. Most Windows users don't even know what flavor of Windows
> they're using, much less what Ubuntu is.
>
>> If you keep posting the crap you post about
>> Ubuntu, they will kick your sorry ass out!
>
> Now you think you speak for Microsoft?
>
>> Better go to plan B. Take
>> 100,000 Ubuntu CD's and travel Africa, trying to get converts to that
>> crappy OS you love so much. Maybe you can get another 50 users! HA HA HA
>> HA.
>
> Um, I'm not trying to get more users.

So what are you doing in here?

I don't CARE what the user share
> is for an operating system.
>
>
So why are you here?
 
H

Heywood Jablowme

Flightless Bird
"Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.com.¡nvalido> wrote in message
news:hrsas9$d3s$2@news.eternal-september.org...
> On 05/05/2010 07:19 PM, Heywood Jablowme wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanymous.org.invalido> wrote in message
>> news:hrs6ul$bi8$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>> Heywood Jablowme wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.com.¡nvalido> wrote in message
>>>> news:hrs64k$3pj$2@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>> On 05/04/2010 10:34 PM, milt wrote:
>>>>>> Here it is.
>>>>>> http://community.winsupersite.com/b...-transitioning-from-newsgroups-to-forums.aspx
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> They're doing it because most of their users don't even know what
>>>>> Usenet is and most ISPs have discontinued Usenet access. It also gives
>>>>> them more control. It has *nothing* to do with trolls like Frank,
>>>>> Death and the Nymshifter.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Alias
>>>>
>>>> They are doing it because of idiots like yourself who pollute the
>>>> forums
>>>> with your Ubuntu bullshit! It's about time!
>>>
>>> No, they're not. Most Windows users have never heard of Usenet or
>>> Usenet trolls like you who only lies and spreads FUD and never helps
>>> anyone. If I were polite and went on their web forums and mentioned
>>> Ubuntu, the only people who would have a hissy fit would be you and
>>> your low life buddy Frank.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Alias
>>
>> Most Windows users don't want anything to do with Ubuntu regardless of
>> which forum they are in.
>
> Not true. Most Windows users don't even know what flavor of Windows
> they're using, much less what Ubuntu is.
>
>> If you keep posting the crap you post about
>> Ubuntu, they will kick your sorry ass out!
>
> Now you think you speak for Microsoft?
>
>> Better go to plan B. Take
>> 100,000 Ubuntu CD's and travel Africa, trying to get converts to that
>> crappy OS you love so much. Maybe you can get another 50 users! HA HA HA
>> HA.
>
> Um, I'm not trying to get more users. I don't CARE what the user share is
> for an operating system.
>
>
> --
> Alias

There you go lying again as usual. You squawk like a mother hen with
inflated numbers of Ubuntu users. You are happy to report that you
"believe" there are 12+ million users. You have even quoted some dumb shit
who also posted the same thing, so you do care. I keep catching you in lies
over and over.

You're the type of idiot who would rob a bank and write the teller a note on
YOUR deposit slip! LOL!
 
M

Mark Blain

Flightless Bird
Alias <aka@masked&anonymous.com.¡nvalido> wrote in
news:hrs64k$3pj$2@news.eternal-september.org:

> On 05/04/2010 10:34 PM, milt wrote:
>> [...]
>
> They're doing it because most of their users don't even know what
> Usenet is and most ISPs have discontinued Usenet access. It also
> gives them more control. It has *nothing* to do with trolls like
> Frank, Death and the Nymshifter.

Even if your ISP no longer runs a Usenet server, you could still use
Microsoft's server for *their* newsgroups (in fact, I preferred it).
 
A

Alias

Flightless Bird
Heywood Jablowme wrote:
>
>
> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.com.¡nvalido> wrote in message
> news:hrsas9$d3s$2@news.eternal-september.org...
>> On 05/05/2010 07:19 PM, Heywood Jablowme wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanymous.org.invalido> wrote in message
>>> news:hrs6ul$bi8$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>> Heywood Jablowme wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.com.¡nvalido> wrote in message
>>>>> news:hrs64k$3pj$2@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>>> On 05/04/2010 10:34 PM, milt wrote:
>>>>>>> Here it is.
>>>>>>> http://community.winsupersite.com/b...-transitioning-from-newsgroups-to-forums.aspx
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They're doing it because most of their users don't even know what
>>>>>> Usenet is and most ISPs have discontinued Usenet access. It also
>>>>>> gives
>>>>>> them more control. It has *nothing* to do with trolls like Frank,
>>>>>> Death and the Nymshifter.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Alias
>>>>>
>>>>> They are doing it because of idiots like yourself who pollute the
>>>>> forums
>>>>> with your Ubuntu bullshit! It's about time!
>>>>
>>>> No, they're not. Most Windows users have never heard of Usenet or
>>>> Usenet trolls like you who only lies and spreads FUD and never helps
>>>> anyone. If I were polite and went on their web forums and mentioned
>>>> Ubuntu, the only people who would have a hissy fit would be you and
>>>> your low life buddy Frank.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Alias
>>>
>>> Most Windows users don't want anything to do with Ubuntu regardless of
>>> which forum they are in.
>>
>> Not true. Most Windows users don't even know what flavor of Windows
>> they're using, much less what Ubuntu is.
>>
>>> If you keep posting the crap you post about
>>> Ubuntu, they will kick your sorry ass out!
>>
>> Now you think you speak for Microsoft?
>>
>>> Better go to plan B. Take
>>> 100,000 Ubuntu CD's and travel Africa, trying to get converts to that
>>> crappy OS you love so much. Maybe you can get another 50 users! HA HA HA
>>> HA.
>>
>> Um, I'm not trying to get more users. I don't CARE what the user share
>> is for an operating system.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Alias
>
> There you go lying again as usual. You squawk like a mother hen with
> inflated numbers of Ubuntu users. You are happy to report that you
> "believe" there are 12+ million users. You have even quoted some dumb
> shit who also posted the same thing, so you do care. I keep catching you
> in lies over and over.

I only post that to get your goat and it works every fucking time
because you're so stupid.

>
> You're the type of idiot who would rob a bank and write the teller a
> note on YOUR deposit slip! LOL!

You rob banks intelligently?

--
Alias
 
A

Alias

Flightless Bird
Mark Blain wrote:
> Alias<aka@masked&anonymous.com.¡nvalido> wrote in
> news:hrs64k$3pj$2@news.eternal-september.org:
>
>> On 05/04/2010 10:34 PM, milt wrote:
>>> [...]
>>
>> They're doing it because most of their users don't even know what
>> Usenet is and most ISPs have discontinued Usenet access. It also
>> gives them more control. It has *nothing* to do with trolls like
>> Frank, Death and the Nymshifter.
>
> Even if your ISP no longer runs a Usenet server, you could still use
> Microsoft's server for *their* newsgroups (in fact, I preferred it).
>

Not the point. I don't think you could find many Usenet users under 40.
As ISPs don't offer Usenet and obviously don't promote it and since AOL
nuked access, MS knows that the lion's share of users are Facebook types
that do everything with a browser, including email.

--
Alias
 
S

SC Tom

Flightless Bird
"Mark Blain" <mblain2@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9D6F9BED3BCEFmblainalbany@216.168.3.70...
> Alias <aka@masked&anonymous.com.¡nvalido> wrote in
> news:hrs64k$3pj$2@news.eternal-september.org:
>
>> On 05/04/2010 10:34 PM, milt wrote:
>>> [...]
>>
>> They're doing it because most of their users don't even know what
>> Usenet is and most ISPs have discontinued Usenet access. It also
>> gives them more control. It has *nothing* to do with trolls like
>> Frank, Death and the Nymshifter.
>
> Even if your ISP no longer runs a Usenet server, you could still use
> Microsoft's server for *their* newsgroups (in fact, I preferred it).
>

That's the gist of the Microsoft message- they are shutting their news
servers down also. Then you'll have to use the forums for
help/questions/support if there are no alt. or comp. groups on non-Microsoft
servers such as High Winds (Charter) or aioe(?).org.
--
SC Tom
 
H

Heywood Jablowme

Flightless Bird
"Alias" <aka@maskedandanymous.org.invalido> wrote in message
news:hrsh10$che$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> Heywood Jablowme wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.com.¡nvalido> wrote in message
>> news:hrsas9$d3s$2@news.eternal-september.org...
>>> On 05/05/2010 07:19 PM, Heywood Jablowme wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanymous.org.invalido> wrote in message
>>>> news:hrs6ul$bi8$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>> Heywood Jablowme wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.com.¡nvalido> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:hrs64k$3pj$2@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>>>> On 05/04/2010 10:34 PM, milt wrote:
>>>>>>>> Here it is.
>>>>>>>> http://community.winsupersite.com/b...-transitioning-from-newsgroups-to-forums.aspx
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They're doing it because most of their users don't even know what
>>>>>>> Usenet is and most ISPs have discontinued Usenet access. It also
>>>>>>> gives
>>>>>>> them more control. It has *nothing* to do with trolls like Frank,
>>>>>>> Death and the Nymshifter.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Alias
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They are doing it because of idiots like yourself who pollute the
>>>>>> forums
>>>>>> with your Ubuntu bullshit! It's about time!
>>>>>
>>>>> No, they're not. Most Windows users have never heard of Usenet or
>>>>> Usenet trolls like you who only lies and spreads FUD and never helps
>>>>> anyone. If I were polite and went on their web forums and mentioned
>>>>> Ubuntu, the only people who would have a hissy fit would be you and
>>>>> your low life buddy Frank.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Alias
>>>>
>>>> Most Windows users don't want anything to do with Ubuntu regardless of
>>>> which forum they are in.
>>>
>>> Not true. Most Windows users don't even know what flavor of Windows
>>> they're using, much less what Ubuntu is.
>>>
>>>> If you keep posting the crap you post about
>>>> Ubuntu, they will kick your sorry ass out!
>>>
>>> Now you think you speak for Microsoft?
>>>
>>>> Better go to plan B. Take
>>>> 100,000 Ubuntu CD's and travel Africa, trying to get converts to that
>>>> crappy OS you love so much. Maybe you can get another 50 users! HA HA
>>>> HA
>>>> HA.
>>>
>>> Um, I'm not trying to get more users. I don't CARE what the user share
>>> is for an operating system.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Alias
>>
>> There you go lying again as usual. You squawk like a mother hen with
>> inflated numbers of Ubuntu users. You are happy to report that you
>> "believe" there are 12+ million users. You have even quoted some dumb
>> shit who also posted the same thing, so you do care. I keep catching you
>> in lies over and over.
>
> I only post that to get your goat and it works every fucking time because
> you're so stupid.

No - You posted those numbers to validate your reason for being here but we
all saw through the lies and nailed you to the post. You're just so stupid,
you keep coming back to be beaten down some more. Must be the drugs that
have infested that pile of dung between your ears.


>
>>
>> You're the type of idiot who would rob a bank and write the teller a
>> note on YOUR deposit slip! LOL!
>
> You rob banks intelligently?
>
> --
> Alias
 
M

Mark Blain

Flightless Bird
Alias <aka@maskedandanymous.org.invalido> wrote in
news:hrsh5e$che$2@news.eternal-september.org:

> Not the point. I don't think you could find many Usenet users under
> 40. As ISPs don't offer Usenet and obviously don't promote it and
> since AOL nuked access, MS knows that the lion's share of users are
> Facebook types that do everything with a browser, including email.

I understand. Another nail in the coffin was Microsoft's decision to stop
bundling a newsreader in Windows. As crappy as OE was, with it gone, less
people ever discover Usenet's existence.
 
L

LD5SZRA

Flightless Bird
wonderwhy wrote:
>

> > This group is a perfect example of why usenet is dying.
> Usenet isn't dying but some newgroups are a waste of time because of
> people like Aliass. That's part of the reason this is being done, so it
> can be moderated and assholes like him banned.


So how are they going to stop people like Aliass on Forums? If M$
staff are going to moderate them then why can't they do the same
on Newsgroups?

The reason they are moving to Forums is because they don't want
millions of people looking for Support free of charge. They want
to make as hard as possible for people to look for any help.

hth
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LD5SZRA

Flightless Bird
Alias is just one person. He can't bring down entire Newsgroup
technology simply because all he knows is crap. His knowledge
isn't wide enough to destroy anything; He is not a professional
hacker or spammer. He is just a loner with nothing else to do in
life. Most probably he is also jobless and no body wants to hire
him because of his lack of knowledge and intelligence.

hth


"Dan K." wrote:
>
> > Usenet isn't dying but some newgroups are a waste of time because of
> > people like Aliass. That's part of the reason this is being done, so it
> > can be moderated and assholes like him banned.
>
> So true, Many of the ng's I used to enjoy like alt.comp.freeware and others
> have been taken over by the trolls. This ng seems headed in the same
> direction. I don't find much useful information here on Windows 7. I guess
> moderated forums are the only way to go if you are searching for
> information. After a lot of the good newsgroups are gone, the trolls will be
> all alone and can masturbate to their egos together.
>
> Dan k.
>
>

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LD5SZRA

Flightless Bird
Mark Blain wrote:
>

> Even if your ISP no longer runs a Usenet server, you could still use
> Microsoft's server for *their* newsgroups (in fact, I preferred it).

Mark, that is what they are closing because they don't seem to be
able to control it anymore. Mind you, they will start with less
used newsgroups like Outlook Express, Microsoft Office Accounting,
IE6 browsers then they will move on to newsgroups dealing with
products that Microsoft no longer develops. I suspect they will
close down WindowsXP newsgroups if Windows 7 proves not to be
successful. Obviously, they want people to move to Windows 7 but
if people continue using XP then they will have to do something
about it to kill it off completely.

My 2 pence worth!.

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ASSOCIATES HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH
DAMAGES. SOME STATES DO NOT ALLOW THE EXCLUSION OR
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milt

Flightless Bird
On 5/5/2010 2:57 PM, Mark Blain wrote:
>
> I understand. Another nail in the coffin was Microsoft's decision to stop
> bundling a newsreader in Windows. As crappy as OE was, with it gone, less
> people ever discover Usenet's existence.

That's because so many of their users can't understand what the heck
usenet even is. If you can't point and click on it, they have no interest.
 
F

Frank

Flightless Bird
alias is "cheating" on babba, his male sheep lover!

On 5/5/2010 12:30 PM, Alias wrote:
> Heywood Jablowme wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.com.¡nvalido> wrote in message
>> news:hrsas9$d3s$2@news.eternal-september.org...
>>> On 05/05/2010 07:19 PM, Heywood Jablowme wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanymous.org.invalido> wrote in message
>>>> news:hrs6ul$bi8$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>> Heywood Jablowme wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.com.¡nvalido> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:hrs64k$3pj$2@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>>>> On 05/04/2010 10:34 PM, milt wrote:
>>>>>>>> Here it is.
>>>>>>>> http://community.winsupersite.com/b...-transitioning-from-newsgroups-to-forums.aspx
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They're doing it because most of their users don't even know what
>>>>>>> Usenet is and most ISPs have discontinued Usenet access. It also
>>>>>>> gives
>>>>>>> them more control. It has *nothing* to do with trolls like Frank,
>>>>>>> Death and the Nymshifter.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Alias
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They are doing it because of idiots like yourself who pollute the
>>>>>> forums
>>>>>> with your Ubuntu bullshit! It's about time!
>>>>>
>>>>> No, they're not. Most Windows users have never heard of Usenet or
>>>>> Usenet trolls like you who only lies and spreads FUD and never helps
>>>>> anyone. If I were polite and went on their web forums and mentioned
>>>>> Ubuntu, the only people who would have a hissy fit would be you and
>>>>> your low life buddy Frank.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Alias
>>>>
>>>> Most Windows users don't want anything to do with Ubuntu regardless of
>>>> which forum they are in.
>>>
>>> Not true. Most Windows users don't even know what flavor of Windows
>>> they're using, much less what Ubuntu is.
>>>
>>>> If you keep posting the crap you post about
>>>> Ubuntu, they will kick your sorry ass out!
>>>
>>> Now you think you speak for Microsoft?
>>>
>>>> Better go to plan B. Take
>>>> 100,000 Ubuntu CD's and travel Africa, trying to get converts to that
>>>> crappy OS you love so much. Maybe you can get another 50 users! HA
>>>> HA HA
>>>> HA.
>>>
>>> Um, I'm not trying to get more users. I don't CARE what the user share
>>> is for an operating system.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Alias
>>
>> There you go lying again as usual. You squawk like a mother hen with
>> inflated numbers of Ubuntu users. You are happy to report that you
>> "believe" there are 12+ million users. You have even quoted some dumb
>> shit who also posted the same thing, so you do care. I keep catching you
>> in lies over and over.
>
> I only post that to get your goat...

....does babba, your male sheep lover know about this other "goat"?
 
D

Dave

Flightless Bird
"SC Tom" <sc@tom.net> wrote in message
news:R33En.168239$sx5.53696@newsfe16.iad...
>
> "Stephen Wolstenholme" <steve@tropheus.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:6o81u5hqs02jd8bip29asso5j0et27j0s9@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 04 May 2010 23:33:02 +0100, LD5SZRA
>> <LD5SZRA@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>You don't have to use Forums if you don't want to because
>>>Microsoft has released its latest version of NNTP bridge that
>>>allows you to read forums in your newsreader. The link is here:
>>>
>>><http://connect.microsoft.com/MicrosoftForums/content/content.aspx?ContentID=13820>
>>>
>>>hth
>>
>> I have seen that but I can't get it to work with my reader. I didn't
>> try too hard as I don't use many Microsoft groups.
>>
>> Steve
>>
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>
> I got it to start and added some forums, but what a dog! It would DL about
> 500 headers, then timeout. If I left that forum, then went back, it would
> pick up about 100 more headers, then timeout again. That's using it in OE6
> in WinXP. I haven't tried it on my Win7 notebook with Windows Live, but I
> have a feeling it'll be about the same.
> --
> SC Tom
>

I tried it before and got the same as you. I just tried it again and still
the same. I guess they'll get it right one of these days, then it will be
like all the other forum sites, won't have to put up with the trolls and
children as the moderator will kick them off. But, it will probably be
slower and have advertisements like Yahoo and Google does. Probably won't be
any binaries either.
Dave
 
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Leythos

Flightless Bird
In article <Xns9D6FA243B2D87mblainalbany@216.168.3.70>, mblain2
@yahoo.com says...
>
> Alias <aka@maskedandanymous.org.invalido> wrote in
> news:hrsh5e$che$2@news.eternal-september.org:
>
> > Not the point. I don't think you could find many Usenet users under
> > 40. As ISPs don't offer Usenet and obviously don't promote it and
> > since AOL nuked access, MS knows that the lion's share of users are
> > Facebook types that do everything with a browser, including email.
>
> I understand. Another nail in the coffin was Microsoft's decision to stop
> bundling a newsreader in Windows. As crappy as OE was, with it gone, less
> people ever discover Usenet's existence.

The worst thing MS ever did was modify their email program to work with
Usenet, usenet has suffered ever since.

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Dave

Flightless Bird
"LD5SZRA" <LD5SZRA@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:4BE1D15F.6FD9E3DF@discussions.microsoft.com...
>
> Alias is just one person. He can't bring down entire Newsgroup
> technology simply because all he knows is crap. His knowledge
> isn't wide enough to destroy anything; He is not a professional
> hacker or spammer. He is just a loner with nothing else to do in
> life. Most probably he is also jobless and no body wants to hire
> him because of his lack of knowledge and intelligence.
>
> hth
>
You're correct, by himself he is not strong enough to have that affect, but
if you notice he is getting more company all the time. Some pretend to be
his adversary when in reality they are his ally with the goal of starting a
flame war. The way I've seen it done before was when the mail to news first
came out the ng's got swarmed with children and trolls. They would liken it
to poking a dog through a fence with a stick. Eventually, like the other
ng's I've seen go under, it will be just as another poster stated, the group
will be so full of idiots you won't be able to carry on a civil
conversation. I've been in 3 or 4 ng's where this has happened and the group
was moved to a forum, most of them on Yahoo groups. Like I stated in another
post, this keeps all the trash out, but it's slower and has advertising you
have to contend with.
Dave
 
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Dave

Flightless Bird
"LD5SZRA" <LD5SZRA@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:4BE1CE90.E79B03E9@discussions.microsoft.com...
>
>
> wonderwhy wrote:
>>
>
>> > This group is a perfect example of why usenet is dying.
>> Usenet isn't dying but some newgroups are a waste of time because of
>> people like Aliass. That's part of the reason this is being done, so it
>> can be moderated and assholes like him banned.
>
>
> So how are they going to stop people like Aliass on Forums? If M$
> staff are going to moderate them then why can't they do the same
> on Newsgroups?
>
> The reason they are moving to Forums is because they don't want
> millions of people looking for Support free of charge. They want
> to make as hard as possible for people to look for any help.
>
> hth
It can be done on ng's, but is a lot harder to implement. I'm not sure what
the process is exactly, but one of the ng's I saw go under moved to from
alt.****.**** to rec.****.****
I think there is a cost to set up and maintain a site here, you have to have
a moderator, someone who is willing to donate their time to monitor posts
and weed out the trash before it gets posted. Very few people are willing to
do this on an extended basis without some type of pay or compensation, the
only way to do this is donations (good luck with that), advertising or
having the forum on your site so you can advertise your stuff. You could be
right in that MS might be looking for a way to compete with Yahoo, Google
and possibly others while promoting their stuff.
I think the primary reason they are doing this though is the s*** that's
being posted here is now affecting them and they want to damage control in
some way before it gets very much worse. I haven't done any scientific
analyzing, but I think the trash is approaching the 50% range so half the
bandwidth concerning MS is wasted. Also, think what impression a newbie gets
when they come here for advice or help and half of what they see is trash,
plus they consider MS to be the problem when, in reality, MS had nothing to
do with it. Now, with a forum site on their server, they can control all
that.
Just my 2 cents,
Dave
 
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Mark Blain

Flightless Bird
LD5SZRA <LD5SZRA@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
news:4BE1D33C.6D161F36@discussions.microsoft.com:

> Mark Blain wrote:
>
>> Even if your ISP no longer runs a Usenet server, you could still use
>> Microsoft's server for *their* newsgroups (in fact, I preferred it).
>
> Mark, that is what they are closing because they don't seem to be
> able to control it anymore...

Yes, I realize that. I said that you *could* use their servers, meaning
up until this latest assault. I should have been clearer.
 
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Drew

Flightless Bird
"Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.com.¡nvalido> wrote in message
news:hrsas9$d3s$2@news.eternal-september.org...
> On 05/05/2010 07:19 PM, Heywood Jablowme wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanymous.org.invalido> wrote in message
>> news:hrs6ul$bi8$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>> Heywood Jablowme wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.com.¡nvalido> wrote in message
>>>> news:hrs64k$3pj$2@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>> On 05/04/2010 10:34 PM, milt wrote:
>>>>>> Here it is.
>>>>>> http://community.winsupersite.com/b...-transitioning-from-newsgroups-to-forums.aspx
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> They're doing it because most of their users don't even know what
>>>>> Usenet is and most ISPs have discontinued Usenet access. It also gives
>>>>> them more control. It has *nothing* to do with trolls like Frank,
>>>>> Death and the Nymshifter.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Aliass

MOST?? WHERE THE FUCK ARE THOSE STATS?? Oh wait this is where you use the
old 'I'm not your secretary" bullshit again!
>>>>
>>>> They are doing it because of idiots like yourself who pollute the
>>>> forums
>>>> with your Ubuntu bullshit! It's about time!
>>>
>>> No, they're not. Most Windows users have never heard of Usenet or
>>> Usenet trolls like you who only lies and spreads FUD and never helps
>>> anyone. If I were polite and went on their web forums and mentioned
>>> Ubuntu, the only people who would have a hissy fit would be you and
>>> your low life buddy Frank.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Aliass

MOST?? WHERE THE FUCK ARE THOSE STATS?? Oh wait this is where you use the
old 'I'm not your secretary" bullshit again!
>>
>> Most Windows users don't want anything to do with Ubuntu regardless of
>> which forum they are in.
>
> Not true. Most Windows users don't even know what flavor of Windows
> they're using, much less what Ubuntu is.

MOST?? WHERE THE FUCK ARE THOSE STATS?? Oh wait this is where you use the
old 'I'm not your secretary" bullshit again!
>
>> If you keep posting the crap you post about
>> Ubuntu, they will kick your sorry ass out!
>
> Now you think you speak for Microsoft?
>
>> Better go to plan B. Take
>> 100,000 Ubuntu CD's and travel Africa, trying to get converts to that
>> crappy OS you love so much. Maybe you can get another 50 users! HA HA HA
>> HA.
>
> Um, I'm not trying to get more users. I don't CARE what the user share is
> for an operating system.
>
>
> --
> Aliass

Again with the fucking lies Aliass??? c"mon dipshit tell the fucking truth
for once in your life!!
 
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