Ubuntu, not worth a dime. No wonder they don't charge.

[Frank]

Alias wrote:
> Frank wrote:
>> GreyCloud wrote:
>>> Frank wrote:
>>>> GreyCloud wrote:
>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>> GreyCloud wrote:
>>>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>>>> GreyCloud wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 20:00:43 -0700, GreyCloud
>>>>>>>>>> <mist@cumulus.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ubuntu 9.10 has been judged and found to be lacking.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I ran the live-cd and checked it out a bit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Can't use Forte Agent, can't use my favorite file manager
>>>>>>>>>>>> "XYplorer",
>>>>>>>>>>>> can't use Foobar, can't use Irfanview without downloading
>>>>>>>>>>>> something else
>>>>>>>>>>>> and going through another 20 steps, can't, can't, can't,
>>>>>>>>>>>> can't, can't
>>>>>>>>>>>> and on and on and on.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Replacements for this, replacements for that, I have to have
>>>>>>>>>>>> replacements for all the applications that I cherish and
>>>>>>>>>>>> have come to
>>>>>>>>>>>> appreciate. I don't want replacements, or something just
>>>>>>>>>>>> about like this
>>>>>>>>>>>> app or that app, etc...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> That is about as far as I got with the Live CD. After I
>>>>>>>>>>>> found out I
>>>>>>>>>>>> couldn't use any applications that I normally use, I just
>>>>>>>>>>>> ejected the CD
>>>>>>>>>>>> and tossed it in the trash.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for nothing Ubuntu. I sure am glad I didn't actually
>>>>>>>>>>>> install you.
>>>>>>>>>>> Plus you can't play commercial DVDs.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Wow. No wonder this piece of crap has never persuaded more
>>>>>>>>>> people to use
>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And when you go to the support groups you are told to add
>>>>>>>>> packman to the repository so that you can download the win32
>>>>>>>>> codecs and libdvdcss and install them. Unfortunately, this
>>>>>>>>> leads to other dependency nightmares.
>>>>>>>>> Even then, it still won't work because there is yet another
>>>>>>>>> codec needed... like H.264 or H.263. And yet it still won't work.
>>>>>>>>> All it does is put you on a scavenger hunt for days.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not any more. See my other post to you about Ubuntu Restricted
>>>>>>>> Extras.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Which repository are those in?
>>>>>>> Bear in mind that I'm in the US, not another country where it is
>>>>>>> legal to do these things on Linux.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then you have a decision to make.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I did. I checked out another posted url and found that I was
>>>>> missing a required library. So I checked around on various mirrors
>>>>> and downloaded it from a german site. Now it finally works. Totem
>>>>> tried to run, but crashed for whatever reasons... so I started up
>>>>> MPlayer and it worked pretty good. But it took me a bit too long
>>>>> to find a solution and I just about gave it up.
>>>>
>>>> I had "fooled around" with various linux distros for a over a
>>>> decade. My experience parallels yours and proly most others who have
>>>> tried linux. At first, linux is "fun" just like most new toys, then
>>>> it quickly turns into a job...one that you are not being paid for.
>>>> At that point in time, most simply get rid of it.
>>>> It is user friendly but only up to a certain point, then it becomes
>>>> sheer drudgery, as you, me, and many others have discovered.
>>>> The problem as I see it...and I come from a technical/marketing
>>>> background, it that there are simple too many different distros. No
>>>> real focus as anyone and everyone can create their own distro.
>>>> linux is an unfulfilled promise and always will be, because open
>>>> source is the genie that can never be put back into the bottle.
>>>
>>> I've dumped so many distros in the past. That is why I now use
>>> VMWare to try them out. If they don't work, it is very easy to get
>>> rid of them... I just drag and drop the vm image for the distro into
>>> the trash can. VirtualBox, tho it is free, is buggy, so that too
>>> went into the trash can. Linux is ok if you are running it on an IBM
>>> mainframe and program custom apps for business and get IBMs help
>>> along the way. For home use, it really isn't worth the effort as in
>>> the final analysis the os that your are using as a host does all that
>>> one needs anyway.
>>
>> Yeah I stopped multi-boot installing linux distros with Windows
>> because that POS grub loader could not be gotten rid of without a
>> major effort.
>
> With all the computers you *say* you have, why do you have to dual boot?

I don't have to but I do cause I can and because I want to. Does that
upset you? I sure hope it does. But thats all a moot point now cause
I'll never again install any linux distros and big mouthed asshole
creeps like you are drive people like me away from linux...not towards it.
You and you alone have done more damage to linux than any MS marketing
campaign ever could...and you're free!
Oops!...LOL!

 

[Frank]

Alias wrote:
> Frank wrote:
>> Alias wrote:
>>> Frank wrote:
>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>>> Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Alias" <Alias@nospam.com.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:hkc8is$cm1$2@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>>>>>> Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Alias" <Alias@nospam.com.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:hkbric$ejh$2@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>>>>>>>> GreyCloud wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> GreyCloud wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GreyCloud wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 20:00:43 -0700, GreyCloud
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mist@cumulus.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ubuntu 9.10 has been judged and found to be lacking.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I ran the live-cd and checked it out a bit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can't use Forte Agent, can't use my favorite file
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> manager "XYplorer",
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can't use Foobar, can't use Irfanview without
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> downloading something else
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and going through another 20 steps, can't, can't,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can't, can't, can't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and on and on and on.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Replacements for this, replacements for that, I have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> replacements for all the applications that I cherish
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and have come to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> appreciate. I don't want replacements, or something
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just about like this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> app or that app, etc...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is about as far as I got with the Live CD. After
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I found out I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> couldn't use any applications that I normally use, I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just ejected the CD
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and tossed it in the trash.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for nothing Ubuntu. I sure am glad I didn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actually install you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Plus you can't play commercial DVDs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wow. No wonder this piece of crap has never persuaded
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more people to use
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And when you go to the support groups you are told to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> add packman to the repository so that you can download
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the win32 codecs and libdvdcss and install them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, this leads to other dependency nightmares.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Even then, it still won't work because there is yet
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another codec needed... like H.264 or H.263. And yet it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> still won't work.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All it does is put you on a scavenger hunt for days.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not any more. See my other post to you about Ubuntu
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Restricted Extras.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Which repository are those in?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bear in mind that I'm in the US, not another country where
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is legal to do these things on Linux.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then you have a decision to make.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I did. I checked out another posted url and found that I
>>>>>>>>>>>> was missing a required library. So I checked around on
>>>>>>>>>>>> various mirrors and downloaded it from a german site. Now
>>>>>>>>>>>> it finally works. Totem tried to run, but crashed for
>>>>>>>>>>>> whatever reasons... so I started up MPlayer and it worked
>>>>>>>>>>>> pretty good. But it took me a bit too long to find a
>>>>>>>>>>>> solution and I just about gave it up.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Try viewing the DVDs in VLC Player. I also strongly recommend
>>>>>>>>>>> you upgrade to Karmic and use the ext4 file system. It's much
>>>>>>>>>>> smoother and faster than ext3. Karmic's general appearance is
>>>>>>>>>>> much nicer too.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Alias
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I hear they made many improvements on the spinning cube.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You heard wrong. Course, you've never installed Ubuntu so all
>>>>>>>>> you have is what comes out of your ass.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Alias
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You are so full of shit as usual. I installed Ubuntu
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No you didn't and you've proved it over and over again.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and once I realized that it didn't run the programs that I want,
>>>>>>>> I removed that worthless piece of shit off my computer. Ubuntu
>>>>>>>> is worth exactly what you pay for it: N O T H I N G !!! LOL!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You didn't install it because you KNOW that Windows programs
>>>>>>> don't work in Linux. You're just a FUD spreader and not a very
>>>>>>> good one at that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh the irony!
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah, you're the other one and you're even worse than the
>>>>> nymshifter at it.
>>>>>
>>>> You have no shame at all do you.
>>>
>>> Look who's talking!
>>>
>> You are one sick POS. At least I have the money to purchase Windows
>> and I use it. You on the other hand are obviously broke and can only
>> use pirated copies of Windows...and you spend all day long dissing
>> Windows and promoting that useless POS toy os you're so in love with.
>> Now look who is talking.
>> Loser!
>
> Look at Frank lie again and again and again.
>
Oh? So you're not in here dissing Windows and spreading your MS hate on
a daily basis while promoting linux?
You are sick aren't you.
Try another lie, liar!

 

[ray]

On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 10:17:08 -0800, Frank wrote:

> ray wrote:
>> On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 08:49:17 -0800, Frank wrote:
>>
>>> ray wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 22:16:47 -0700, GreyCloud wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> ray wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 1231 -0700, GreyCloud wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ray wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 20:00:43 -0700, GreyCloud wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Ubuntu 9.10 has been judged and found to be lacking.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I ran the live-cd and checked it out a bit.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Can't use Forte Agent, can't use my favorite file manager
>>>>>>>>>> "XYplorer", can't use Foobar, can't use Irfanview without
>>>>>>>>>> downloading something else and going through another 20 steps,
>>>>>>>>>> can't, can't, can't, can't, can't and on and on and on.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Replacements for this, replacements for that, I have to have
>>>>>>>>>> replacements for all the applications that I cherish and have
>>>>>>>>>> come to appreciate. I don't want replacements, or something
>>>>>>>>>> just about like this app or that app, etc...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That is about as far as I got with the Live CD. After I found
>>>>>>>>>> out I couldn't use any applications that I normally use, I just
>>>>>>>>>> ejected the CD and tossed it in the trash.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for nothing Ubuntu. I sure am glad I didn't actually
>>>>>>>>>> install you.
>>>>>>>>> Plus you can't play commercial DVDs.
>>>>>>>> Strange - I don't seem to have a problem with that.
>>>>>>> Then please post the exact dvd player and how and where to get the
>>>>>>> necessary codecs and libs and how to get the player to recognize
>>>>>>> them. It isn't automatic.
>>>>>> totem - add the libdvdcdss library - or whatever it's called -
>>>>>> don't recall the details.
>>>>> I finally found the missing library on a german mirror. Totem
>>>>> crashed... restarted it and it tried to work then stalled. So I
>>>>> tried MPlayer and it worked okay. Plus I had to run the
>>>>> install-css.sh. Only one web site mentioned the precise procedure
>>>>> and it also checks if you have everything installed.
>>>> Cool - that's one myth put to bed. Except that frankie will probably
>>>> call you a liar
>>> Projecting ray...the snake? You're a real FUD spreading, MS hating POS
>>> ray...the snake.
>>
>> Just making a guess,...
>
> Guess again snake.
>
> based on your previous behavior.
>
> You're the lying FUD spreader in here. This is after all, an ng
> supposedly about Windows 7, something you don't have, nor use.

Aye frankie, and I'm NOT the one who started the thread about Ubuntu.

>
> To my knowledge,
>> you've never admitted that Linux was capable of doing anything...
>
> Then you're a dumb as you sound.
>
> - care to
>> prove me wrong?
>
> See above.

OK, so what do you admit that Linux is capable of? I've never heard or
seen it.


>
>
>

 

[Bill Yanaire, ESQ]

"Alias" <Alias@nospam.com.invalid> wrote in message
news:hkch6c$h8q$3@news.eternal-september.org...
> GreyCloud wrote:
>> Frank wrote:
>>> GreyCloud wrote:
>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>> GreyCloud wrote:
>>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>>> GreyCloud wrote:
>>>>>>>> Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 20:00:43 -0700, GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Ubuntu 9.10 has been judged and found to be lacking.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I ran the live-cd and checked it out a bit.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Can't use Forte Agent, can't use my favorite file manager
>>>>>>>>>>> "XYplorer",
>>>>>>>>>>> can't use Foobar, can't use Irfanview without downloading
>>>>>>>>>>> something else
>>>>>>>>>>> and going through another 20 steps, can't, can't, can't, can't,
>>>>>>>>>>> can't
>>>>>>>>>>> and on and on and on.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Replacements for this, replacements for that, I have to have
>>>>>>>>>>> replacements for all the applications that I cherish and have
>>>>>>>>>>> come to
>>>>>>>>>>> appreciate. I don't want replacements, or something just about
>>>>>>>>>>> like this
>>>>>>>>>>> app or that app, etc...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> That is about as far as I got with the Live CD. After I found
>>>>>>>>>>> out I
>>>>>>>>>>> couldn't use any applications that I normally use, I just
>>>>>>>>>>> ejected the CD
>>>>>>>>>>> and tossed it in the trash.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for nothing Ubuntu. I sure am glad I didn't actually
>>>>>>>>>>> install you.
>>>>>>>>>> Plus you can't play commercial DVDs.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Wow. No wonder this piece of crap has never persuaded more people
>>>>>>>>> to use
>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And when you go to the support groups you are told to add packman
>>>>>>>> to the repository so that you can download the win32 codecs and
>>>>>>>> libdvdcss and install them. Unfortunately, this leads to other
>>>>>>>> dependency nightmares.
>>>>>>>> Even then, it still won't work because there is yet another codec
>>>>>>>> needed... like H.264 or H.263. And yet it still won't work.
>>>>>>>> All it does is put you on a scavenger hunt for days.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not any more. See my other post to you about Ubuntu Restricted
>>>>>>> Extras.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Which repository are those in?
>>>>>> Bear in mind that I'm in the US, not another country where it is
>>>>>> legal to do these things on Linux.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then you have a decision to make.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I did. I checked out another posted url and found that I was missing a
>>>> required library. So I checked around on various mirrors and
>>>> downloaded it from a german site. Now it finally works. Totem tried
>>>> to run, but crashed for whatever reasons... so I started up MPlayer and
>>>> it worked pretty good. But it took me a bit too long to find a
>>>> solution and I just about gave it up.
>>>
>>> I had "fooled around" with various linux distros for a over a decade. My
>>> experience parallels yours and proly most others who have tried linux.
>>> At first, linux is "fun" just like most new toys, then it quickly turns
>>> into a job...one that you are not being paid for. At that point in time,
>>> most simply get rid of it.
>>> It is user friendly but only up to a certain point, then it becomes
>>> sheer drudgery, as you, me, and many others have discovered.
>>> The problem as I see it...and I come from a technical/marketing
>>> background, it that there are simple too many different distros. No real
>>> focus as anyone and everyone can create their own distro.
>>> linux is an unfulfilled promise and always will be, because open source
>>> is the genie that can never be put back into the bottle.
>>
>> I've dumped so many distros in the past. That is why I now use VMWare to
>> try them out. If they don't work, it is very easy to get rid of them...
>> I just drag and drop the vm image for the distro into the trash can.
>> VirtualBox, tho it is free, is buggy, so that too went into the trash
>> can. Linux is ok if you are running it on an IBM mainframe and program
>> custom apps for business and get IBMs help along the way. For home use,
>> it really isn't worth the effort as in the final analysis the os that
>> your are using as a host does all that one needs anyway.
>
> You'll never know what Ubuntu is really like in a vm.
>
> --
> Alias

News to Alias: We all know what Ubuntu is like. We don't even need a
computer for that one! LOL!

 

[DanS]

Frank <fb@amk.cmo> wrote in news:4b69c150$1@news.x-privat.org:

> DanS wrote:
>> Frank <fb@amk.cmo> wrote in news:4b69a99d$1@news.x-privat.org:
>>
>>> DanS wrote:
>>>>>> Thanks for nothing Ubuntu. I sure am glad I didn't actually
install
>>>>>> you.
>>>>> Plus you can't play commercial DVDs.
>>>> You can't play DVD's on a default installation of Windows either.
>>> Really? What version of Windows are you referring to?
>>
>> I guess I'd be referring to non-MediaCenter Editions of Windows...and
>> apparently, MS has included a DVD decoder in Home Premium & Ultimate
in
>> Windows 7.
>>
>> That's a first.
>
> Not really.

Actually, yes, it *IS* a first.......including DVD playback in a non-MC
Windows.....

Prior to Windows7 the only version that came with DVD playback from a
default install was XP MC.

> You just hate MS don't you dan-o!

I couldn't care less about MS. I don't like incorrect/incomplete or
deliberately misleading information, or (like you) hypocrisy.

(If I need to explain why I replied originally in this thread, it was
hypocrisy.)

> Pathetic!

Yes, you are.

 

[Frank]

ray wrote:
> On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 10:17:08 -0800, Frank wrote:
>
>> ray wrote:
>>> On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 08:49:17 -0800, Frank wrote:
>>>
>>>> ray wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 22:16:47 -0700, GreyCloud wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> ray wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 1231 -0700, GreyCloud wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ray wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 20:00:43 -0700, GreyCloud wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Ubuntu 9.10 has been judged and found to be lacking.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I ran the live-cd and checked it out a bit.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Can't use Forte Agent, can't use my favorite file manager
>>>>>>>>>>> "XYplorer", can't use Foobar, can't use Irfanview without
>>>>>>>>>>> downloading something else and going through another 20 steps,
>>>>>>>>>>> can't, can't, can't, can't, can't and on and on and on.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Replacements for this, replacements for that, I have to have
>>>>>>>>>>> replacements for all the applications that I cherish and have
>>>>>>>>>>> come to appreciate. I don't want replacements, or something
>>>>>>>>>>> just about like this app or that app, etc...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> That is about as far as I got with the Live CD. After I found
>>>>>>>>>>> out I couldn't use any applications that I normally use, I just
>>>>>>>>>>> ejected the CD and tossed it in the trash.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for nothing Ubuntu. I sure am glad I didn't actually
>>>>>>>>>>> install you.
>>>>>>>>>> Plus you can't play commercial DVDs.
>>>>>>>>> Strange - I don't seem to have a problem with that.
>>>>>>>> Then please post the exact dvd player and how and where to get the
>>>>>>>> necessary codecs and libs and how to get the player to recognize
>>>>>>>> them. It isn't automatic.
>>>>>>> totem - add the libdvdcdss library - or whatever it's called -
>>>>>>> don't recall the details.
>>>>>> I finally found the missing library on a german mirror. Totem
>>>>>> crashed... restarted it and it tried to work then stalled. So I
>>>>>> tried MPlayer and it worked okay. Plus I had to run the
>>>>>> install-css.sh. Only one web site mentioned the precise procedure
>>>>>> and it also checks if you have everything installed.
>>>>> Cool - that's one myth put to bed. Except that frankie will probably
>>>>> call you a liar
>>>> Projecting ray...the snake? You're a real FUD spreading, MS hating POS
>>>> ray...the snake.
>>> Just making a guess,...
>> Guess again snake.
>>
>> based on your previous behavior.
>>
>> You're the lying FUD spreader in here. This is after all, an ng
>> supposedly about Windows 7, something you don't have, nor use.
>
> Aye frankie, and I'm NOT the one who started the thread about Ubuntu.

So?
>
>> To my knowledge,
>>> you've never admitted that Linux was capable of doing anything...
>> Then you're a dumb as you sound.
>>
>> - care to
>>> prove me wrong?
>> See above.
>
> OK, so what do you admit that Linux is capable of?

Wasting time!

I've never heard or
> seen it.

Being blind seems to be one of your "attributes".
Oops!

>
>>
>>
>

 

[Frank]

dan-o the asshole has a sissy fit!

DanS wrote:
> Frank <fb@amk.cmo> wrote in news:4b69c150$1@news.x-privat.org:
>
>> DanS wrote:
>>> Frank <fb@amk.cmo> wrote in news:4b69a99d$1@news.x-privat.org:
>>>
>>>> DanS wrote:
>>>>>>> Thanks for nothing Ubuntu. I sure am glad I didn't actually
> install
>>>>>>> you.
>>>>>> Plus you can't play commercial DVDs.
>>>>> You can't play DVD's on a default installation of Windows either.
>>>> Really? What version of Windows are you referring to?
>>> I guess I'd be referring to non-MediaCenter Editions of Windows...and
>>> apparently, MS has included a DVD decoder in Home Premium & Ultimate
> in
>>> Windows 7.
>>>
>>> That's a first.
>> Not really.
>
> Actually, yes, it *IS* a first.......including DVD playback in a non-MC
> Windows.....
>
> Prior to Windows7 the only version that came with DVD playback from a
> default install was XP MC.

That's funny. cause mine work on Vista.
Oops!
>
>> You just hate MS don't you dan-o!
>
> I couldn't care less about MS.

Liar!

I don't like incorrect/incomplete or
> deliberately misleading information, or (like you) hypocrisy.

Projecting again, dan-o?
>
> (If I need to explain why I replied originally in this thread, it was
> hypocrisy.)
>
>> Pathetic!
>
> Yes, you are.

I'm not the POS asshole loser in here. That jackass would be you dan-o.
Now go fuck yourself!

 

[DanS]

Re: dan-o the asshole has a sissy fit!


>> Actually, yes, it *IS* a first.......including DVD playback in a non-
MC
>> Windows.....
>>
>> Prior to Windows7 the only version that came with DVD playback from a
>> default install was XP MC.
>
> That's funny. cause mine work on Vista.

After even more research at MS, it seems that Vista Premium & Ultimate
had DVD playback as well. That's not what it said on the other MS page I
saw.

> Oops!
>>
>>> You just hate MS don't you dan-o!
>>
>> I couldn't care less about MS.
>
> Liar!

I refuse to play the 'Liar game' with you, I am *FAR* above that, as are
most people past the age of 12.




> I don't like incorrect/incomplete or
>> deliberately misleading information, or (like you) hypocrisy.
>
> Projecting again, dan-o?
>>
>> (If I need to explain why I replied originally in this thread, it was
>> hypocrisy.)
>>
>>> Pathetic!
>>
>> Yes, you are.
>
> I'm not the POS asshole loser in here.

You think being, as you put it, 'a POS a**hole loser' and using Windows7
are mutually exclusive. They are not. You are a fine example.

> That jackass would be you dan-o.
> Now go fuck yourself!

You may be into that, but I'm not.

 

[ray]

On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 12:24:16 -0800, Frank wrote:

> ray wrote:
>> On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 10:17:08 -0800, Frank wrote:
>>
>>> ray wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 08:49:17 -0800, Frank wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> ray wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 22:16:47 -0700, GreyCloud wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ray wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 1231 -0700, GreyCloud wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ray wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 20:00:43 -0700, GreyCloud wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ubuntu 9.10 has been judged and found to be lacking.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I ran the live-cd and checked it out a bit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Can't use Forte Agent, can't use my favorite file manager
>>>>>>>>>>>> "XYplorer", can't use Foobar, can't use Irfanview without
>>>>>>>>>>>> downloading something else and going through another 20
>>>>>>>>>>>> steps, can't, can't, can't, can't, can't and on and on and
>>>>>>>>>>>> on.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Replacements for this, replacements for that, I have to have
>>>>>>>>>>>> replacements for all the applications that I cherish and have
>>>>>>>>>>>> come to appreciate. I don't want replacements, or something
>>>>>>>>>>>> just about like this app or that app, etc...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> That is about as far as I got with the Live CD. After I found
>>>>>>>>>>>> out I couldn't use any applications that I normally use, I
>>>>>>>>>>>> just ejected the CD and tossed it in the trash.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for nothing Ubuntu. I sure am glad I didn't actually
>>>>>>>>>>>> install you.
>>>>>>>>>>> Plus you can't play commercial DVDs.
>>>>>>>>>> Strange - I don't seem to have a problem with that.
>>>>>>>>> Then please post the exact dvd player and how and where to get
>>>>>>>>> the necessary codecs and libs and how to get the player to
>>>>>>>>> recognize them. It isn't automatic.
>>>>>>>> totem - add the libdvdcdss library - or whatever it's called -
>>>>>>>> don't recall the details.
>>>>>>> I finally found the missing library on a german mirror. Totem
>>>>>>> crashed... restarted it and it tried to work then stalled. So I
>>>>>>> tried MPlayer and it worked okay. Plus I had to run the
>>>>>>> install-css.sh. Only one web site mentioned the precise procedure
>>>>>>> and it also checks if you have everything installed.
>>>>>> Cool - that's one myth put to bed. Except that frankie will
>>>>>> probably call you a liar
>>>>> Projecting ray...the snake? You're a real FUD spreading, MS hating
>>>>> POS ray...the snake.
>>>> Just making a guess,...
>>> Guess again snake.
>>>
>>> based on your previous behavior.
>>>
>>> You're the lying FUD spreader in here. This is after all, an ng
>>> supposedly about Windows 7, something you don't have, nor use.
>>
>> Aye frankie, and I'm NOT the one who started the thread about Ubuntu.
>
> So?
>>
>>> To my knowledge,
>>>> you've never admitted that Linux was capable of doing anything...
>>> Then you're a dumb as you sound.
>>>
>>> - care to
>>>> prove me wrong?
>>> See above.
>>
>> OK, so what do you admit that Linux is capable of?
>
> Wasting time!
>
> I've never heard or
>> seen it.
>
> Being blind seems to be one of your "attributes". Oops!
>
>
>>
>>>
>>>

So, you're still so full of blind hatred (or fright) that you can't admit
that anything works on Linux - like I said.

 

[milt]

Re: Dumb loser trolling Linux users in a Windows newsgroup

On 2/3/2010 6:01 AM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> Ctrl?/Alt?/Del pulled this Usenet boner:
>
>> Ubun
>
> What will they think of next?
>

They don't think, just killfile them and move on. This group was pretty
nice then those losers had to show up since they already ruined the MS
groups. They are also more than likely one of the reasons MS is
abandoning NNTP groups in favor of web-based forums that they can keep
the trolls out of easier.

 

[Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del]

Now I am kind of scared to do a regular install of Ubuntu because all
the users of it seem a tad crazy. I don't want to mess up my good
Windows 7 installation using what trolls seem to recommend.

 

[Alias]

Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del wrote:
> Now I am kind of scared to do a regular install of Ubuntu because all
> the users of it seem a tad crazy. I don't want to mess up my good
> Windows 7 installation using what trolls seem to recommend.

So install it on another hard drive instead of replacing Windows 7. If
you like it, keep it. If not, don't.

--
Alias

 

[Death]

Alias wrote:

> Death wrote:
>> Alias wrote:
>>
>>> Death wrote:
>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Death wrote:
>>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> GreyCloud wrote:
>>>>>>>> Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Ubuntu 9.10 has been judged and found to be lacking.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I ran the live-cd and checked it out a bit.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Can't use Forte Agent, can't use my favorite file manager "XYplorer",
>>>>>>>>> can't use Foobar, can't use Irfanview without downloading something else
>>>>>>>>> and going through another 20 steps, can't, can't, can't, can't, can't
>>>>>>>>> and on and on and on.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Replacements for this, replacements for that, I have to have
>>>>>>>>> replacements for all the applications that I cherish and have come to
>>>>>>>>> appreciate. I don't want replacements, or something just about like this
>>>>>>>>> app or that app, etc...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That is about as far as I got with the Live CD. After I found out I
>>>>>>>>> couldn't use any applications that I normally use, I just ejected the CD
>>>>>>>>> and tossed it in the trash.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for nothing Ubuntu. I sure am glad I didn't actually install you.
>>>>>>>> Plus you can't play commercial DVDs.
>>>>>>> Not on my install of Ubuntu. I can play any DVD my little heart desires,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Canonical says you are a liar.
>>>>> Not what it says.
>>>>>
>>>> Yes it does.
>>>> The ability you profess ubuntu to have isn't provided by ubuntu.
>>>> It comes from a third party (probably some third world thieving nation)
>>>> repository server.
>>> I didn't have to add a repository.
>>>
>>
>> Didn't say you did.
>> It was downloaded anyway ... and not from Canonical.
>
> So fucking what?
>

Damn, are you fuckin stupid or what.
It means ubuntu can't play encrypted DVD's.

You are DLing a third party tool to do that.

Don't believe me?
Read the link that I originally supplied.
Canonical doesn't support it.

Because in most non-third world countries, it is illegal.
Perhaps you think it isn't.
Not suprising.


>>
>>
>>>>
>>>>>> https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/musicvideophotos/C/video-dvd.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Some thieves simply ignore the law.
>>>>>> Not suprising.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Spain isn't one of those countries and a couple of clicks in the
>>>>> Software Center and all your needs are met in less than a minute.
>>>>>
>>>> Just great!
>>>> I gotta move to a third world country to play DVD's I'll no longer be
>>>> able to afford.
>>> Spain isn't a third world country.
>>>
>>
>> Says a resident.
>
> Says anyone who knows what they're talking about.
>

Compared to where I live, it is.

>>
>>
>>>> Any more bright ideas?
>>>>
>>> Yeah, bugger off.
>>>
>>
>> Not good.
>>
>
> Yeah, you're not good all right.
>

Yeah.

--

Vita brevis breviter in brevi finietur,
Mors venit velociter quae neminem veretur.

 

[Frank]

ray wrote:
> On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 12:24:16 -0800, Frank wrote:
>
>> ray wrote:
>>> On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 10:17:08 -0800, Frank wrote:
>>>
>>>> ray wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 03 Feb 2010 08:49:17 -0800, Frank wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> ray wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 22:16:47 -0700, GreyCloud wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ray wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 1231 -0700, GreyCloud wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ray wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 20:00:43 -0700, GreyCloud wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ubuntu 9.10 has been judged and found to be lacking.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I ran the live-cd and checked it out a bit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can't use Forte Agent, can't use my favorite file manager
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "XYplorer", can't use Foobar, can't use Irfanview without
>>>>>>>>>>>>> downloading something else and going through another 20
>>>>>>>>>>>>> steps, can't, can't, can't, can't, can't and on and on and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> on.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Replacements for this, replacements for that, I have to have
>>>>>>>>>>>>> replacements for all the applications that I cherish and have
>>>>>>>>>>>>> come to appreciate. I don't want replacements, or something
>>>>>>>>>>>>> just about like this app or that app, etc...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is about as far as I got with the Live CD. After I found
>>>>>>>>>>>>> out I couldn't use any applications that I normally use, I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> just ejected the CD and tossed it in the trash.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for nothing Ubuntu. I sure am glad I didn't actually
>>>>>>>>>>>>> install you.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Plus you can't play commercial DVDs.
>>>>>>>>>>> Strange - I don't seem to have a problem with that.
>>>>>>>>>> Then please post the exact dvd player and how and where to get
>>>>>>>>>> the necessary codecs and libs and how to get the player to
>>>>>>>>>> recognize them. It isn't automatic.
>>>>>>>>> totem - add the libdvdcdss library - or whatever it's called -
>>>>>>>>> don't recall the details.
>>>>>>>> I finally found the missing library on a german mirror. Totem
>>>>>>>> crashed... restarted it and it tried to work then stalled. So I
>>>>>>>> tried MPlayer and it worked okay. Plus I had to run the
>>>>>>>> install-css.sh. Only one web site mentioned the precise procedure
>>>>>>>> and it also checks if you have everything installed.
>>>>>>> Cool - that's one myth put to bed. Except that frankie will
>>>>>>> probably call you a liar
>>>>>> Projecting ray...the snake? You're a real FUD spreading, MS hating
>>>>>> POS ray...the snake.
>>>>> Just making a guess,...
>>>> Guess again snake.
>>>>
>>>> based on your previous behavior.
>>>>
>>>> You're the lying FUD spreader in here. This is after all, an ng
>>>> supposedly about Windows 7, something you don't have, nor use.
>>> Aye frankie, and I'm NOT the one who started the thread about Ubuntu.
>> So?
>>>> To my knowledge,
>>>>> you've never admitted that Linux was capable of doing anything...
>>>> Then you're a dumb as you sound.
>>>>
>>>> - care to
>>>>> prove me wrong?
>>>> See above.
>>> OK, so what do you admit that Linux is capable of?
>> Wasting time!
>>
>> I've never heard or
>>> seen it.
>> Being blind seems to be one of your "attributes". Oops!
>>
>>
>>>>
>
> So, you're still so full of blind hatred (or fright) that you can't admit
> that anything works on Linux - like I said.

hehehe...nice try ray the-snake, but nowhere did I say what you said I
said.
You're a LIAR, plain and simple. Let me you give a suggestion...*STOP
LYING*!!!
If that POS toy os works for your little needs and you're too broke
financially to purchase the very best OS available today (Windows
7)and/or too full of your MS hatred to ever use it, then good for you.
But the sign on this door says "*alt.windows7.general*"...and not one
word about that POS toy os your pushing as a troll in here.
Got it?

 

[Frank]

Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del wrote:
> Now I am kind of scared to do a regular install of Ubuntu because all
> the users of it seem a tad crazy. I don't want to mess up my good
> Windows 7 installation using what trolls seem to recommend.

Good idea! It's like a virus...something you don't want to infect your
computer.

 

[Frank]

Re: Dumb loser trolling Linux users in a Windows newsgroup

milt wrote:
> On 2/3/2010 6:01 AM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>> Ctrl?/Alt?/Del pulled this Usenet boner:
>>
>>> Ubun
>>
>> What will they think of next?
>>
>
> They don't think, just killfile them and move on. This group was pretty
> nice then those losers had to show up since they already ruined the MS
> groups. They are also more than likely one of the reasons MS is
> abandoning NNTP groups in favor of web-based forums that they can keep
> the trolls out of easier.

You mean the trolls, alias and his newly found asshole buddy
ray...the-snake.

Yeah those creeps followed me over here and neither one of them uses any
MS software let along Windows Vista/7.

 

[Frank]

alias admittes he is a thief...and is proud of it!

Alias wrote:
> Death wrote:
>> Alias wrote:
>>
>>> Death wrote:
>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Death wrote:
>>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> GreyCloud wrote:
>>>>>>>> Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Ubuntu 9.10 has been judged and found to be lacking.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I ran the live-cd and checked it out a bit.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Can't use Forte Agent, can't use my favorite file manager
>>>>>>>>> "XYplorer",
>>>>>>>>> can't use Foobar, can't use Irfanview without downloading
>>>>>>>>> something else
>>>>>>>>> and going through another 20 steps, can't, can't, can't, can't,
>>>>>>>>> can't
>>>>>>>>> and on and on and on.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Replacements for this, replacements for that, I have to have
>>>>>>>>> replacements for all the applications that I cherish and have
>>>>>>>>> come to
>>>>>>>>> appreciate. I don't want replacements, or something just about
>>>>>>>>> like this
>>>>>>>>> app or that app, etc...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That is about as far as I got with the Live CD. After I found
>>>>>>>>> out I
>>>>>>>>> couldn't use any applications that I normally use, I just
>>>>>>>>> ejected the CD
>>>>>>>>> and tossed it in the trash.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for nothing Ubuntu. I sure am glad I didn't actually
>>>>>>>>> install you.
>>>>>>>> Plus you can't play commercial DVDs.
>>>>>>> Not on my install of Ubuntu. I can play any DVD my little heart
>>>>>>> desires,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Canonical says you are a liar.
>>>>> Not what it says.
>>>>>
>>>> Yes it does.
>>>> The ability you profess ubuntu to have isn't provided by ubuntu.
>>>> It comes from a third party (probably some third world thieving nation)
>>>> repository server.
>>> I didn't have to add a repository.
>>>
>>
>> Didn't say you did.
>> It was downloaded anyway ... and not from Canonical.
>
> So fucking what?

You just admitted you are a thief!
>
>>
>>
>>>>
>>>>>> https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/musicvideophotos/C/video-dvd.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Some thieves simply ignore the law.
>>>>>> Not suprising.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Spain isn't one of those countries and a couple of clicks in the
>>>>> Software Center and all your needs are met in less than a minute.
>>>>>
>>>> Just great!
>>>> I gotta move to a third world country to play DVD's I'll no longer be
>>>> able to afford.
>>> Spain isn't a third world country.
>>>
>>
>> Says a resident.
>
> Says anyone who knows what they're talking about.
>
>>
>>
>>>> Any more bright ideas?
>>>>
>>> Yeah, bugger off.
>>>
>>
>> Not good.
>>
>
> Yeah, you're not good all right.
>

 

[Frank]

dan-o comes clean!

DanS wrote:
>>> Actually, yes, it *IS* a first.......including DVD playback in a non-
> MC
>>> Windows.....
>>>
>>> Prior to Windows7 the only version that came with DVD playback from a
>>> default install was XP MC.
>> That's funny. cause mine work on Vista.
>
> After even more research at MS, it seems that Vista Premium & Ultimate
> had DVD playback as well. That's not what it said on the other MS page I
> saw.
>
>> Oops!
>>>> You just hate MS don't you dan-o!
>>> I couldn't care less about MS.
>> Liar!
>
> I refuse to play the 'Liar game' with you, I am *FAR* above that, as are
> most people past the age of 12.
>
>
>
>
>> I don't like incorrect/incomplete or
>>> deliberately misleading information, or (like you) hypocrisy.
>> Projecting again, dan-o?
>>> (If I need to explain why I replied originally in this thread, it was
>>> hypocrisy.)
>>>
>>>> Pathetic!
>>> Yes, you are.
>> I'm not the POS asshole loser in here.
>
> You think being, as you put it, 'a POS a**hole loser' and using Windows7
> are mutually exclusive. They are not. You are a fine example.
>
>> That jackass would be you dan-o.
>> Now go fuck yourself!
>
> You may be into that, but I'm not.
>
>
You dumb fuck. You're posting (deliberately?) incorrect, misleading
information. Best you just *SHUT THE FUCK UP*. Especially seeing as how
you don't even use Vista/7.
YOU ARE A FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT ASSHOLE LYING LOSER.
GO FUCK YOURSELF!

 

[Roy Smith]

"Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del" <Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del¤®@Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del¤®.net> wrote in message
news:to1km5lcl1cp0ahgvipah6ms0ci201qcr0@4ax.com...
> Now I am kind of scared to do a regular install of Ubuntu because all
> the users of it seem a tad crazy. I don't want to mess up my good
> Windows 7 installation using what trolls seem to recommend.

Then use virtualization software like VMware or Sun's VirtualBox and try it
out. If you don't like it the it's easy to get rid of by hitting the delete
key.

--

Roy Smith
Windows 7 Home Premium

 

[Moiv]

"Frank" <fb@amk.cmo> wrote in message news:4b6a206d@news.x-privat.org...
Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del wrote:
> Now I am kind of scared to do a regular install of Ubuntu because all
> the users of it seem a tad crazy. I don't want to mess up my good
> Windows 7 installation using what trolls seem to recommend.

> Good idea! It's like a virus...something you don't want to infect your
> computer.

Lame, Frank... very Lame