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Ubuntu, not worth a dime. No wonder they don't charge.

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Conor

Flightless Bird
In article <LuudnaweR43GCPrWnZ2dnUVZ_qdi4p2d@bresnan.com>, GreyCloud
says...

> Plus you can't play commercial DVDs.


Yes you can.


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Bill Yanaire, ESQ

Flightless Bird
"Conor" <conor@gmx.co.uk> wrote in message
news:MPG.25d259eba9b6830f989c99@news.eternal-september.org...
> In article <plnem5tmuvdmn0khtjr4j7qsbp5vp7hoov@4ax.com>, Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del
> says...
>>
>> Ubuntu 9.10 has been judged and found to be lacking.
>>
>> I ran the live-cd and checked it out a bit.
>>
>> Can't use Forte Agent, can't use my favorite file manager "XYplorer",
>> can't use Foobar, can't use Irfanview without downloading something else
>> and going through another 20 steps, can't, can't, can't, can't, can't
>> and on and on and on.
>>

> That's because its not Windows, you stupid prick.
>

That is his point you clueless one. It doesn't run the programs that people
want. Get a clue.
 
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Conor

Flightless Bird
In article <4b684abd$1@news.x-privat.org>, Bill Yanaire, ESQ says...

> That is his point you clueless one. It doesn't run the programs that people
> want. Get a clue.
>

No, it doesn't run the programs that SOME people want. The majority of
people I sell computers to want to do internet browsing, email, MSN and
play music. It'll do all of that.


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Alias

Flightless Bird
Philo P. Shagnasty wrote:
>
>
> "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
> news:7spdqeFov1U15@mid.individual.net...
>> On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 17:07:39 -0600, Ctrl€/Alt€/Del wrote:
>>
>>> Ubuntu 9.10 has been judged and found to be lacking.
>>>
>>> I ran the live-cd and checked it out a bit.
>>>
>>> Can't use Forte Agent, can't use my favorite file manager "XYplorer",
>>> can't use Foobar, can't use Irfanview without downloading something else
>>> and going through another 20 steps, can't, can't, can't, can't, can't
>>> and on and on and on.
>>>
>>> Replacements for this, replacements for that, I have to have
>>> replacements for all the applications that I cherish and have come to
>>> appreciate. I don't want replacements, or something just about like this
>>> app or that app, etc...
>>>
>>> That is about as far as I got with the Live CD. After I found out I
>>> couldn't use any applications that I normally use, I just ejected the CD
>>> and tossed it in the trash.
>>>
>>> Thanks for nothing Ubuntu. I sure am glad I didn't actually install you.

>>
>> Well, doofus, Linux isn't MS. You can't run MS software on Linux
>> (natively, anyway - can run some via WINE). Similarly, you can't run
>> Linux software on MS - at all (unless you count a virtual machine).

>
> Linux is worth exactly what you pay for it: NOTHING.


A lie.

>
> Nobody in their right mind would want to run crappy Linux software on
> Windows box.


You're not in your right mind but you use Windows.

>
> Ubuntu was written by geeks for geeks who can't get laid.


Another lie.

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Alias

Flightless Bird
GreyCloud wrote:
> Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del wrote:
>> Ubuntu 9.10 has been judged and found to be lacking.
>>
>> I ran the live-cd and checked it out a bit.
>>
>> Can't use Forte Agent, can't use my favorite file manager "XYplorer",
>> can't use Foobar, can't use Irfanview without downloading something else
>> and going through another 20 steps, can't, can't, can't, can't, can't
>> and on and on and on.
>>
>> Replacements for this, replacements for that, I have to have
>> replacements for all the applications that I cherish and have come to
>> appreciate. I don't want replacements, or something just about like this
>> app or that app, etc...
>>
>> That is about as far as I got with the Live CD. After I found out I
>> couldn't use any applications that I normally use, I just ejected the CD
>> and tossed it in the trash.
>>
>> Thanks for nothing Ubuntu. I sure am glad I didn't actually install you.

>
> Plus you can't play commercial DVDs.


Not on my install of Ubuntu. I can play any DVD my little heart desires,

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Alias

Flightless Bird
Leythos wrote:

>
> They are still using that computer, with Ubuntu installed, and the kid
> complains about not being able to install a lot of games,


Assuming you installed Karmic, take a look at the Games under
Applications > Ubuntu Software Center. I bet you dollars to donuts the
kid can't finish Open Arena in anything but easy mode.

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Alias
 
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ray

Flightless Bird
On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 21:57:22 -0600, Ctrl€/Alt€/Del wrote:

> On 2 Feb 2010 03:31:35 GMT, ray <ray@zianet.com> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 20:23:30 -0600, Ctrl€/Alt€/Del wrote:
>>
>>> On 2 Feb 2010 01:35:11 GMT, ray <ray@zianet.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 17:07:39 -0600, Ctrl?/Alt?/Del wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Ubuntu 9.10 has been judged and found to be lacking.
>>>>>
>>>>> I ran the live-cd and checked it out a bit.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can't use Forte Agent, can't use my favorite file manager
>>>>> "XYplorer", can't use Foobar, can't use Irfanview without
>>>>> downloading something else and going through another 20 steps,
>>>>> can't, can't, can't, can't, can't and on and on and on.
>>>>>
>>>>> Replacements for this, replacements for that, I have to have
>>>>> replacements for all the applications that I cherish and have come
>>>>> to appreciate. I don't want replacements, or something just about
>>>>> like this app or that app, etc...
>>>>>
>>>>> That is about as far as I got with the Live CD. After I found out I
>>>>> couldn't use any applications that I normally use, I just ejected
>>>>> the CD and tossed it in the trash.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for nothing Ubuntu. I sure am glad I didn't actually install
>>>>> you.
>>>>
>>>>Well, doofus, Linux isn't MS. You can't run MS software on Linux
>>>>(natively, anyway - can run some via WINE). Similarly, you can't run
>>>>Linux software on MS - at all (unless you count a virtual machine).
>>>
>>> What the fuck good is it then? There isn't a file explorer that can
>>> come close to touching XYplorer made for Linux. Same with Foobar. Same
>>> for Irfanview, and on and on.
>>>
>>>

>>For one thing, it's stable. For another, it's secure. For another it
>>comes with software that would cost you several hundred dollars to equal
>>on an MS machine.

>
> I use almost exclusively all freeware products except for my file
> manager and newsreader. But, hardly any of the freeware products that
> seem to be worth using are compatible with Ubuntu. So, what to do?
>
>> Seems quite reasonable to me, but Linux is not for
>>everyone - particularly not for those with no vision and less than a
>>room temperature IQ.

>
>
> That leaves out most Linux posters I've encountered on Usenet. Such a
> crazy bunch they seem to be. All of them post about 10,000 posts a day
> about how Bill Gates is the debbil or some such nonsense.
>
>
>>
>>> They do have Gimp, I'll give 'em that, but I can use that in Windows
>>> and don't have to sacrifice 40 other app's that are clearly superior
>>> in order to try a "free" operating system.

>>
>>If you wish to pay a few thousand dollars for those apps or operate
>>illegally, then I guess MS is for you - that's your decision.

>
> Freeware app's don't usually cost much. The problem I am having, in
> deciding whether or not to use Ubuntu, is that all the freeware app's I
> use on Windows seem to be better than the similar ones available for
> Ubuntu.


On that one, I can't say as I don't use 'freeware', instead opting to
stick with the Open Source programs which are usually available for the
various Linux distributions. I've found them all to be of uniformly high
quality - and I did do scientific software support and development for 30
years so I do have some basis for saying so.
 
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Death

Flightless Bird
Alias wrote:

> Leythos wrote:
>
>>
>> They are still using that computer, with Ubuntu installed, and the kid
>> complains about not being able to install a lot of games,

>
> Assuming you installed Karmic, take a look at the Games under
> Applications > Ubuntu Software Center. I bet you dollars to donuts the
> kid can't finish Open Arena in anything but easy mode.
>


I bet nickels to nachos they laugh their fuckin head off at it.
Open Arena ... hahahahahah.
An 8bit game for a 2bit OS.

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Mors venit velociter quae neminem veretur.
 
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Bill Yanaire, ESQ

Flightless Bird
"Alias" <Alias@nospam.com.invalid> wrote in message
news:hk9jv5$8vk$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> Philo P. Shagnasty wrote:
>>
>>
>> "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
>> news:7spdqeFov1U15@mid.individual.net...
>>> On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 17:07:39 -0600, Ctrl€/Alt€/Del wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ubuntu 9.10 has been judged and found to be lacking.
>>>>
>>>> I ran the live-cd and checked it out a bit.
>>>>
>>>> Can't use Forte Agent, can't use my favorite file manager "XYplorer",
>>>> can't use Foobar, can't use Irfanview without downloading something
>>>> else
>>>> and going through another 20 steps, can't, can't, can't, can't, can't
>>>> and on and on and on.
>>>>
>>>> Replacements for this, replacements for that, I have to have
>>>> replacements for all the applications that I cherish and have come to
>>>> appreciate. I don't want replacements, or something just about like
>>>> this
>>>> app or that app, etc...
>>>>
>>>> That is about as far as I got with the Live CD. After I found out I
>>>> couldn't use any applications that I normally use, I just ejected the
>>>> CD
>>>> and tossed it in the trash.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for nothing Ubuntu. I sure am glad I didn't actually install
>>>> you.
>>>
>>> Well, doofus, Linux isn't MS. You can't run MS software on Linux
>>> (natively, anyway - can run some via WINE). Similarly, you can't run
>>> Linux software on MS - at all (unless you count a virtual machine).

>>
>> Linux is worth exactly what you pay for it: NOTHING.

>
> A lie.


Bullshit. Linux costs nothing and is worth nothing. Get over it.

>
>>
>> Nobody in their right mind would want to run crappy Linux software on
>> Windows box.

>
> You're not in your right mind but you use Windows.


You are the one not in your right mind. You are trying to shove Ubuntu down
our throats in the Vista group. You are very confused.

>
>>
>> Ubuntu was written by geeks for geeks who can't get laid.

>
> Another lie.
>
> --
> Alias
 
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Bill Yanaire, ESQ

Flightless Bird
"Alias" <Alias@nospam.com.invalid> wrote in message
news:hk9k11$8vk$2@news.eternal-september.org...
> GreyCloud wrote:
>> Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del wrote:
>>> Ubuntu 9.10 has been judged and found to be lacking.
>>>
>>> I ran the live-cd and checked it out a bit.
>>>
>>> Can't use Forte Agent, can't use my favorite file manager "XYplorer",
>>> can't use Foobar, can't use Irfanview without downloading something else
>>> and going through another 20 steps, can't, can't, can't, can't, can't
>>> and on and on and on.
>>>
>>> Replacements for this, replacements for that, I have to have
>>> replacements for all the applications that I cherish and have come to
>>> appreciate. I don't want replacements, or something just about like this
>>> app or that app, etc...
>>>
>>> That is about as far as I got with the Live CD. After I found out I
>>> couldn't use any applications that I normally use, I just ejected the CD
>>> and tossed it in the trash.
>>>
>>> Thanks for nothing Ubuntu. I sure am glad I didn't actually install you.

>>
>> Plus you can't play commercial DVDs.

>
> Not on my install of Ubuntu. I can play any DVD my little heart desires,
>
> --
> Alias


I'm sure with YOUR copy of Ubuntu, you can do anything. Your copy is not
like other copies. Just like everyone in your town/city wants Ubuntu and
nobody wants Windows. Isn't that right? Your town is the only one on the
planet where everyone knows about Ubuntu. LOL!
 
D

Death

Flightless Bird
ray wrote:

> On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 21:57:22 -0600, Ctrl€/Alt€/Del wrote:
>
>> On 2 Feb 2010 03:31:35 GMT, ray <ray@zianet.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 20:23:30 -0600, Ctrl€/Alt€/Del wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2 Feb 2010 01:35:11 GMT, ray <ray@zianet.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 17:07:39 -0600, Ctrl?/Alt?/Del wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ubuntu 9.10 has been judged and found to be lacking.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I ran the live-cd and checked it out a bit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can't use Forte Agent, can't use my favorite file manager
>>>>>> "XYplorer", can't use Foobar, can't use Irfanview without
>>>>>> downloading something else and going through another 20 steps,
>>>>>> can't, can't, can't, can't, can't and on and on and on.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Replacements for this, replacements for that, I have to have
>>>>>> replacements for all the applications that I cherish and have come
>>>>>> to appreciate. I don't want replacements, or something just about
>>>>>> like this app or that app, etc...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That is about as far as I got with the Live CD. After I found out I
>>>>>> couldn't use any applications that I normally use, I just ejected
>>>>>> the CD and tossed it in the trash.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for nothing Ubuntu. I sure am glad I didn't actually install
>>>>>> you.
>>>>>
>>>>>Well, doofus, Linux isn't MS. You can't run MS software on Linux
>>>>>(natively, anyway - can run some via WINE). Similarly, you can't run
>>>>>Linux software on MS - at all (unless you count a virtual machine).
>>>>
>>>> What the fuck good is it then? There isn't a file explorer that can
>>>> come close to touching XYplorer made for Linux. Same with Foobar. Same
>>>> for Irfanview, and on and on.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>For one thing, it's stable. For another, it's secure. For another it
>>>comes with software that would cost you several hundred dollars to equal
>>>on an MS machine.

>>
>> I use almost exclusively all freeware products except for my file
>> manager and newsreader. But, hardly any of the freeware products that
>> seem to be worth using are compatible with Ubuntu. So, what to do?
>>
>>> Seems quite reasonable to me, but Linux is not for
>>>everyone - particularly not for those with no vision and less than a
>>>room temperature IQ.

>>
>>
>> That leaves out most Linux posters I've encountered on Usenet. Such a
>> crazy bunch they seem to be. All of them post about 10,000 posts a day
>> about how Bill Gates is the debbil or some such nonsense.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>> They do have Gimp, I'll give 'em that, but I can use that in Windows
>>>> and don't have to sacrifice 40 other app's that are clearly superior
>>>> in order to try a "free" operating system.
>>>
>>>If you wish to pay a few thousand dollars for those apps or operate
>>>illegally, then I guess MS is for you - that's your decision.

>>
>> Freeware app's don't usually cost much. The problem I am having, in
>> deciding whether or not to use Ubuntu, is that all the freeware app's I
>> use on Windows seem to be better than the similar ones available for
>> Ubuntu.

>
> On that one, I can't say as I don't use 'freeware', instead opting to
> stick with the Open Source programs which are usually available for the
> various Linux distributions. I've found them all to be of uniformly high
> quality - and I did do scientific software support and development for 30
> years so I do have some basis for saying so.


Open Source software runs in Windows too.
That wouldn't be the Linux software you were saying doesn't run in
Windows, would it?

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Alias

Flightless Bird
Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:
>
>
> "Alias" <Alias@nospam.com.invalid> wrote in message
> news:hk9jv5$8vk$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>> Philo P. Shagnasty wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
>>> news:7spdqeFov1U15@mid.individual.net...
>>>> On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 17:07:39 -0600, Ctrl€/Alt€/Del wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Ubuntu 9.10 has been judged and found to be lacking.
>>>>>
>>>>> I ran the live-cd and checked it out a bit.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can't use Forte Agent, can't use my favorite file manager "XYplorer",
>>>>> can't use Foobar, can't use Irfanview without downloading something
>>>>> else
>>>>> and going through another 20 steps, can't, can't, can't, can't, can't
>>>>> and on and on and on.
>>>>>
>>>>> Replacements for this, replacements for that, I have to have
>>>>> replacements for all the applications that I cherish and have come to
>>>>> appreciate. I don't want replacements, or something just about like
>>>>> this
>>>>> app or that app, etc...
>>>>>
>>>>> That is about as far as I got with the Live CD. After I found out I
>>>>> couldn't use any applications that I normally use, I just ejected
>>>>> the CD
>>>>> and tossed it in the trash.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for nothing Ubuntu. I sure am glad I didn't actually install
>>>>> you.
>>>>
>>>> Well, doofus, Linux isn't MS. You can't run MS software on Linux
>>>> (natively, anyway - can run some via WINE). Similarly, you can't run
>>>> Linux software on MS - at all (unless you count a virtual machine).
>>>
>>> Linux is worth exactly what you pay for it: NOTHING.

>>
>> A lie.

>
> Bullshit. Linux costs nothing and is worth nothing. Get over it.


Lying again doesn't make it true.

>>> Nobody in their right mind would want to run crappy Linux software on
>>> Windows box.

>>
>> You're not in your right mind but you use Windows.

>
> You are the one not in your right mind. You are trying to shove Ubuntu
> down our throats in the Vista group. You are very confused.


Not at all. Where else but in a group that's using a virus prone and
buggy operating system?

>
>>
>>>
>>> Ubuntu was written by geeks for geeks who can't get laid.

>>
>> Another lie.


Still a lie.

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Alias

Flightless Bird
Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:
>
>
> "Alias" <Alias@nospam.com.invalid> wrote in message
> news:hk9k11$8vk$2@news.eternal-september.org...
>> GreyCloud wrote:
>>> Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del wrote:
>>>> Ubuntu 9.10 has been judged and found to be lacking.
>>>>
>>>> I ran the live-cd and checked it out a bit.
>>>>
>>>> Can't use Forte Agent, can't use my favorite file manager "XYplorer",
>>>> can't use Foobar, can't use Irfanview without downloading something
>>>> else
>>>> and going through another 20 steps, can't, can't, can't, can't, can't
>>>> and on and on and on.
>>>>
>>>> Replacements for this, replacements for that, I have to have
>>>> replacements for all the applications that I cherish and have come to
>>>> appreciate. I don't want replacements, or something just about like
>>>> this
>>>> app or that app, etc...
>>>>
>>>> That is about as far as I got with the Live CD. After I found out I
>>>> couldn't use any applications that I normally use, I just ejected
>>>> the CD
>>>> and tossed it in the trash.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for nothing Ubuntu. I sure am glad I didn't actually install
>>>> you.
>>>
>>> Plus you can't play commercial DVDs.

>>
>> Not on my install of Ubuntu. I can play any DVD my little heart desires,
>>
>> --
>> Alias

>
> I'm sure with YOUR copy of Ubuntu, you can do anything. Your copy is
> not like other copies. Just like everyone in your town/city wants
> Ubuntu and nobody wants Windows. Isn't that right? Your town is the
> only one on the planet where everyone knows about Ubuntu. LOL!
>
>
>
>


You're losing it again, nymshifter.

--
Alias
 
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Alias

Flightless Bird
Death wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>
>> Leythos wrote:
>>
>>> They are still using that computer, with Ubuntu installed, and the kid
>>> complains about not being able to install a lot of games,

>> Assuming you installed Karmic, take a look at the Games under
>> Applications > Ubuntu Software Center. I bet you dollars to donuts the
>> kid can't finish Open Arena in anything but easy mode.
>>

>
> I bet nickels to nachos they laugh their fuckin head off at it.
> Open Arena ... hahahahahah.
> An 8bit game for a 2bit OS.
>


You couldn't do it either.

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Bill Yanaire, ESQ

Flightless Bird
"Alias" <Alias@nospam.com.invalid> wrote in message
news:hk9lrb$rn0$2@news.eternal-september.org...
> Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Alias" <Alias@nospam.com.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:hk9k11$8vk$2@news.eternal-september.org...
>>> GreyCloud wrote:
>>>> Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del wrote:
>>>>> Ubuntu 9.10 has been judged and found to be lacking.
>>>>>
>>>>> I ran the live-cd and checked it out a bit.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can't use Forte Agent, can't use my favorite file manager "XYplorer",
>>>>> can't use Foobar, can't use Irfanview without downloading something
>>>>> else
>>>>> and going through another 20 steps, can't, can't, can't, can't, can't
>>>>> and on and on and on.
>>>>>
>>>>> Replacements for this, replacements for that, I have to have
>>>>> replacements for all the applications that I cherish and have come to
>>>>> appreciate. I don't want replacements, or something just about like
>>>>> this
>>>>> app or that app, etc...
>>>>>
>>>>> That is about as far as I got with the Live CD. After I found out I
>>>>> couldn't use any applications that I normally use, I just ejected the
>>>>> CD
>>>>> and tossed it in the trash.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for nothing Ubuntu. I sure am glad I didn't actually install
>>>>> you.
>>>>
>>>> Plus you can't play commercial DVDs.
>>>
>>> Not on my install of Ubuntu. I can play any DVD my little heart desires,
>>>
>>> --
>>> Alias

>>
>> I'm sure with YOUR copy of Ubuntu, you can do anything. Your copy is not
>> like other copies. Just like everyone in your town/city wants Ubuntu and
>> nobody wants Windows. Isn't that right? Your town is the only one on
>> the planet where everyone knows about Ubuntu. LOL!
>>
>>
>>
>>

>
> You're losing it again, nymshifter.
>
> --
> Alias


Don't think so. You are the only one who states that you've never had a
problem with Ubuntu. Everything works right first time. Your system stays
up for years. Get over it. Don't believe you for a second. You lie each
time your mouth (fingers) move. Hmm. I wonder if you are/were an attorney.
 
D

Death

Flightless Bird
Alias wrote:

> Death wrote:
>> Alias wrote:
>>
>>> Leythos wrote:
>>>
>>>> They are still using that computer, with Ubuntu installed, and the kid
>>>> complains about not being able to install a lot of games,
>>> Assuming you installed Karmic, take a look at the Games under
>>> Applications > Ubuntu Software Center. I bet you dollars to donuts the
>>> kid can't finish Open Arena in anything but easy mode.
>>>

>>
>> I bet nickels to nachos they laugh their fuckin head off at it.
>> Open Arena ... hahahahahah.
>> An 8bit game for a 2bit OS.
>>

>
> You couldn't do it either.
>


Wouldn't.
It really bored the crap outta me.
I only played some kind of demo level where you pick up weapons then run
around in circles shooting the other characters.
But the horrible graphics and the sound effects?? (which thanks to linux
sound architecture began squealing, looping, then finally failing) kind
of put me off.

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ray

Flightless Bird
On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 18:01:05 +0100, Death wrote:

> ray wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 21:57:22 -0600, Ctrl€/Alt€/Del wrote:
>>
>>> On 2 Feb 2010 03:31:35 GMT, ray <ray@zianet.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 20:23:30 -0600, Ctrl€/Alt€/Del wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2 Feb 2010 01:35:11 GMT, ray <ray@zianet.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 17:07:39 -0600, Ctrl?/Alt?/Del wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ubuntu 9.10 has been judged and found to be lacking.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I ran the live-cd and checked it out a bit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can't use Forte Agent, can't use my favorite file manager
>>>>>>> "XYplorer", can't use Foobar, can't use Irfanview without
>>>>>>> downloading something else and going through another 20 steps,
>>>>>>> can't, can't, can't, can't, can't and on and on and on.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Replacements for this, replacements for that, I have to have
>>>>>>> replacements for all the applications that I cherish and have come
>>>>>>> to appreciate. I don't want replacements, or something just about
>>>>>>> like this app or that app, etc...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That is about as far as I got with the Live CD. After I found out
>>>>>>> I couldn't use any applications that I normally use, I just
>>>>>>> ejected the CD and tossed it in the trash.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for nothing Ubuntu. I sure am glad I didn't actually
>>>>>>> install you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Well, doofus, Linux isn't MS. You can't run MS software on Linux
>>>>>>(natively, anyway - can run some via WINE). Similarly, you can't run
>>>>>>Linux software on MS - at all (unless you count a virtual machine).
>>>>>
>>>>> What the fuck good is it then? There isn't a file explorer that can
>>>>> come close to touching XYplorer made for Linux. Same with Foobar.
>>>>> Same for Irfanview, and on and on.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>For one thing, it's stable. For another, it's secure. For another it
>>>>comes with software that would cost you several hundred dollars to
>>>>equal on an MS machine.
>>>
>>> I use almost exclusively all freeware products except for my file
>>> manager and newsreader. But, hardly any of the freeware products that
>>> seem to be worth using are compatible with Ubuntu. So, what to do?
>>>
>>>> Seems quite reasonable to me, but Linux is not for
>>>>everyone - particularly not for those with no vision and less than a
>>>>room temperature IQ.
>>>
>>>
>>> That leaves out most Linux posters I've encountered on Usenet. Such a
>>> crazy bunch they seem to be. All of them post about 10,000 posts a day
>>> about how Bill Gates is the debbil or some such nonsense.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>> They do have Gimp, I'll give 'em that, but I can use that in Windows
>>>>> and don't have to sacrifice 40 other app's that are clearly superior
>>>>> in order to try a "free" operating system.
>>>>
>>>>If you wish to pay a few thousand dollars for those apps or operate
>>>>illegally, then I guess MS is for you - that's your decision.
>>>
>>> Freeware app's don't usually cost much. The problem I am having, in
>>> deciding whether or not to use Ubuntu, is that all the freeware app's
>>> I use on Windows seem to be better than the similar ones available for
>>> Ubuntu.

>>
>> On that one, I can't say as I don't use 'freeware', instead opting to
>> stick with the Open Source programs which are usually available for the
>> various Linux distributions. I've found them all to be of uniformly
>> high quality - and I did do scientific software support and development
>> for 30 years so I do have some basis for saying so.

>
> Open Source software runs in Windows too. That wouldn't be the Linux
> software you were saying doesn't run in Windows, would it?


Some Open Source software is also compiled for MS - in which case it will
run on MS. If it's compiled for Linux, it won't run on MS.
 
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Alias

Flightless Bird
Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:
>
>
> "Alias" <Alias@nospam.com.invalid> wrote in message
> news:hk9lrb$rn0$2@news.eternal-september.org...
>> Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Alias" <Alias@nospam.com.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:hk9k11$8vk$2@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>> GreyCloud wrote:
>>>>> Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del wrote:
>>>>>> Ubuntu 9.10 has been judged and found to be lacking.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I ran the live-cd and checked it out a bit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can't use Forte Agent, can't use my favorite file manager "XYplorer",
>>>>>> can't use Foobar, can't use Irfanview without downloading
>>>>>> something else
>>>>>> and going through another 20 steps, can't, can't, can't, can't, can't
>>>>>> and on and on and on.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Replacements for this, replacements for that, I have to have
>>>>>> replacements for all the applications that I cherish and have come to
>>>>>> appreciate. I don't want replacements, or something just about
>>>>>> like this
>>>>>> app or that app, etc...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That is about as far as I got with the Live CD. After I found out I
>>>>>> couldn't use any applications that I normally use, I just ejected
>>>>>> the CD
>>>>>> and tossed it in the trash.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for nothing Ubuntu. I sure am glad I didn't actually
>>>>>> install you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Plus you can't play commercial DVDs.
>>>>
>>>> Not on my install of Ubuntu. I can play any DVD my little heart
>>>> desires,
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Alias
>>>
>>> I'm sure with YOUR copy of Ubuntu, you can do anything. Your copy is
>>> not like other copies. Just like everyone in your town/city wants
>>> Ubuntu and nobody wants Windows. Isn't that right? Your town is the
>>> only one on the planet where everyone knows about Ubuntu. LOL!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>> You're losing it again, nymshifter.
>>
>> --
>> Alias

>
> Don't think so.


What you think is not important because you're just trying to find
something wrong with my argument.

> You are the only one who states that you've never had a
> problem with Ubuntu.


Oh, I've had problems but they were easy to fix.

> Everything works right first time.


True.

> Your system
> stays up for years.


Yep, I went from Dapper to Jaunty without doing one clean install. My
new install is clean because I wanted to switch over to ext 4 and
partition my hard drive.

> Get over it.


Get over what, your lies?

> Don't believe you for a second. You
> lie each time your mouth (fingers) move. Hmm. I wonder if you are/were
> an attorney.


Nothing like trotting out straw men and ad hominems when you can't
refute the fact that DVDs play just fine in Ubuntu out of the fucking box.

--
Alias
 
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Alias

Flightless Bird
Death wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>
>> Death wrote:
>>> Alias wrote:
>>>
>>>> Leythos wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> They are still using that computer, with Ubuntu installed, and the kid
>>>>> complains about not being able to install a lot of games,
>>>> Assuming you installed Karmic, take a look at the Games under
>>>> Applications > Ubuntu Software Center. I bet you dollars to donuts the
>>>> kid can't finish Open Arena in anything but easy mode.
>>>>
>>> I bet nickels to nachos they laugh their fuckin head off at it.
>>> Open Arena ... hahahahahah.
>>> An 8bit game for a 2bit OS.
>>>

>> You couldn't do it either.
>>

>
> Wouldn't.
> It really bored the crap outta me.
> I only played some kind of demo level where you pick up weapons then run
> around in circles shooting the other characters.
> But the horrible graphics and the sound effects?? (which thanks to linux
> sound architecture began squealing, looping, then finally failing) kind
> of put me off.
>


You missed the point again.

--
Alias
 
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Bill Yanaire, ESQ

Flightless Bird
"Alias" <Alias@nospam.com.invalid> wrote in message
news:hk9n8b$7op$2@news.eternal-september.org...
> Death wrote:
>> Alias wrote:
>>
>>> Death wrote:
>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Leythos wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> They are still using that computer, with Ubuntu installed, and the
>>>>>> kid complains about not being able to install a lot of games,
>>>>> Assuming you installed Karmic, take a look at the Games under
>>>>> Applications > Ubuntu Software Center. I bet you dollars to donuts the
>>>>> kid can't finish Open Arena in anything but easy mode.
>>>>>
>>>> I bet nickels to nachos they laugh their fuckin head off at it.
>>>> Open Arena ... hahahahahah.
>>>> An 8bit game for a 2bit OS.
>>>>
>>> You couldn't do it either.
>>>

>>
>> Wouldn't.
>> It really bored the crap outta me.
>> I only played some kind of demo level where you pick up weapons then run
>> around in circles shooting the other characters.
>> But the horrible graphics and the sound effects?? (which thanks to linux
>> sound architecture began squealing, looping, then finally failing) kind
>> of put me off.
>>

>
> You missed the point again.
>
> --
> Alias


He didn't miss the point. He answered properly. You don't have the ability
to understand the written word. No wonder, you use Ubuntu.
 
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