Is the current computer generation absolutely clueless?

[Ophelia]

"Gilgamesh" <gilgamesh@dont.spam.me> wrote in message
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> "Zootal" <nospam@spam.zootal.nospam.com> wrote in message
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>> "Gilgamesh" <gilgamesh@dont.spam.me> wrote in
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>>>
>>> "Zootal" <nospam@spam.zootal.nospam.com> wrote in message
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>>>> "Gordon" <gordonbparker@yahoo.com> wrote in
>>>> news:7rec5fF3iqU1@mid.individual.net:
>>>>
>>>>> I don't think I have EVER seen as many howlers as there are on the
>>>>> MS Win 7 forums, or as many totally dense people.
>>>>>
>>>>> I certainly don't recall anything LIKE this level of complete
>>>>> ignorance when XP or Vista came out...
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I've been a programmer for twenty years, and yes, the current
>>>> computer generation is pretty clueless. Back in the good old days, a
>>>> programmer had to know how to configure drivers via config.sys to use
>>>> upper memory, and as little as possible. We had to know memory
>>>> managers,
>>>
>>> Back in my programming days we had to zap object code to get it to
>>> function properly when compiled (this is back in the days before PCs
>>> and DOS).;
>>>
>>
>> Used to work on an old Sperry Univac V76 system. We had a decent linker,
>> fortunately. It was a serious PITA to work with the system. We didn't
>> have
>> monitors, we had TI Silent 700's thermal printers as our terminal.
>> <shudder>
>
> Real programmers don't eat quiche
> Real programmers don't even know how to spell keysh.
>
> Real programmers don't debug code.
> Real programmers make software work by toggling the various switches on
> the front of the computer.
>
> Real programmers don't work 9 to 5.
> If you see a programmer at 9 AM it's because they worked all night
> correcting a user error.
>
> Real programmers can make their software work in 10K of memory

*applause* )


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[Ophelia]

"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Alias <Alias@nospam.com.invalid> wrote:
>>Conor wrote:
>>>
>>> When XP came out, people complained about software not working, hardware
>>> not working, buggy drivers, constant crashes etc. In fact, the
>>> comparisons between XP and Vista were astonishing however people seem to
>>> have short memories. XP only became decent once SP1 came out.
>>
>>Rule of thumb: Windows doesn't even start to become usable until SP1 and
>>there really isn't any reason to "upgrade" until SP2. Course, being as
>>Windows 7 is Vista SE, it's usable now.
>
>
> I felt that XP started pretty strong, no doubt benefitting from 2000's
> prior release (2000 SP2 was a great "light" version of
> XP RTM - clearly a lot of new code, mid-2001). Vista was blatantly a
> beta of 7, though - I've been loving 7, but I stuck with XP until it
> was available.

I stuck with XP till my old laptop died
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[Clogwog]

"Death" <death@rottingcorpses.x-x> schreef in bericht
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> Alias wrote:
>
>> Conor wrote:
>>> In article <vbn4n.59847$Db2.8455@edtnps83>, Augustus says...
>>>>>> I certainly don't recall anything LIKE this level of complete
>>>>>> ignorance
>>>>>> when XP or Vista came out...
>>>> Not when XP came out, no.
>>>
>>> You are either a liar or haven't been into computers that long.
>>>
>>> When XP came out, people complained about software not working, hardware
>>> not working, buggy drivers, constant crashes etc. In fact, the
>>> comparisons between XP and Vista were astonishing however people seem to
>>> have short memories. XP only became decent once SP1 came out.
>>>
>>
>> Rule of thumb: Windows doesn't even start to become usable until SP1 and
>> there really isn't any reason to "upgrade" until SP2. Course, being as
>> Windows 7 is Vista SE, it's usable now.
>>
>
> Your T-Bird is messed up.
> You keep cross-posting to comp.os.linux.advocacy for some reason.
> If it made a clicking sound, maybe you'd have noticed.
>
The trolling clown Alias-tard got bitch slapped so much in
alt.windows7.general, that he suffers from severe brain damage, just like
his butt buddy Linux loons in COLA. He's in desperate need of a few me
too'ers!, I bet.

 

[Joel]

"Ophelia" <Ophelia@Elsinore.me.uk> wrote:

>I stuck with XP till my old laptop died


If you really prefer XP, I would have to think it would run on your
new one. I wouldn't recommend it, though, due to the lack of
optimization for more modern hardware (even a lot of XP-era hardware,
such as my own computer, benefits from 7 in that way), and the
dwindling update support (it seems they're literally only doing
critical security updates, as evidenced by the denial-of-service
vulnerability that they didn't feel was necessary to fix in 2000/XP, a
few months ago).

--
Joel Crump

 

[Allen]

Gilgamesh wrote:
>
> "Zootal" <nospam@spam.zootal.nospam.com> wrote in message
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>> "Gilgamesh" <gilgamesh@dont.spam.me> wrote in
>> news:00dbe9d4$0$15597$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com:
>>
>>>
>>> "Zootal" <nospam@spam.zootal.nospam.com> wrote in message
>>> news:Xns9D0267A83F900nospamspamzootalnosp@216.196.97.131...
>>>> "Gordon" <gordonbparker@yahoo.com> wrote in
>>>> news:7rec5fF3iqU1@mid.individual.net:
>>>>
>>>>> I don't think I have EVER seen as many howlers as there are on the
>>>>> MS Win 7 forums, or as many totally dense people.
>>>>>
>>>>> I certainly don't recall anything LIKE this level of complete
>>>>> ignorance when XP or Vista came out...
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I've been a programmer for twenty years, and yes, the current
>>>> computer generation is pretty clueless. Back in the good old days, a
>>>> programmer had to know how to configure drivers via config.sys to use
>>>> upper memory, and as little as possible. We had to know memory
>>>> managers,
>>>
>>> Back in my programming days we had to zap object code to get it to
>>> function properly when compiled (this is back in the days before PCs
>>> and DOS).;
>>>
>>
>> Used to work on an old Sperry Univac V76 system. We had a decent linker,
>> fortunately. It was a serious PITA to work with the system. We didn't
>> have
>> monitors, we had TI Silent 700's thermal printers as our terminal.
>> <shudder>
>
> Real programmers don't eat quiche
> Real programmers don't even know how to spell keysh.
>
> Real programmers don't debug code.
> Real programmers make software work by toggling the various switches on
> the front of the computer.
>
> Real programmers don't work 9 to 5.
> If you see a programmer at 9 AM it's because they worked all night
> correcting a user error.
>
> Real programmers can make their software work in 10K of memory
>
>
>
>
Sounds like you go back to the IBM 1401 days, except that ours had only
4K--10K would have seemed like a miracle.
Allen

 

[chrisv]

"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Ophelia" <Ophelia@Elsinore.me.uk> wrote:
>
>>I stuck with XP till my old laptop died
>
>
> If you really prefer XP, I would have to think it would run on your
> new one. I wouldn't recommend it, though, due to the lack of
> optimization for more modern hardware (even a lot of XP-era hardware,
> such as my own computer, benefits from 7 in that way), and the
> dwindling update support (it seems they're literally only doing
> critical security updates, as evidenced by the denial-of-service
> vulnerability that they didn't feel was necessary to fix in 2000/XP, a
> few months ago).

After reading your response, I have to ask why you're not monitoring
24hoursupport.helpdesk?

 

[Joel]

"chrisv" <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:

>After reading your response, I have to ask why you're not monitoring
>24hoursupport.helpdesk?


I will add it to my list. Thanks for the suggestion.

--
Joel Crump

 

[Leythos]

In article <7rec5fF3iqU1@mid.individual.net>, gordonbparker@yahoo.com
says...
>
> I don't think I have EVER seen as many howlers as there are on the MS Win 7
> forums, or as many totally dense people.
>
> I certainly don't recall anything LIKE this level of complete ignorance when
> XP or Vista came out...

If people took the time to understand their computer like they do the
remote for the TV we would see a lot less in the way of problems.

Just imagine if people would actually comprehend the warnings about
security threats that they've been hearing for a decade, that all still
apply, how many people would not be compromised....

If you want to look at how bad it's going to be - volunteer in any
public school, grade 7+, and you will be amazed at how stupid the
students and teachers are.

--
You can't trust your best friends, your five senses, only the little
voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that.
Trust yourself.
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[milt]

On 1/17/2010 10:55 AM, MJMIII wrote:
> "milt" <theatre_nospam_guy@miltsweb.com> wrote in message
> news:hivca3$64i$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>> On 1/16/2010 11:43 AM, Gordon wrote:
>>> I don't think I have EVER seen as many howlers as there are on the MS
>>> Win 7 forums, or as many totally dense people.
>>>
>>> I certainly don't recall anything LIKE this level of complete ignorance
>>> when XP or Vista came out...
>>
>> Yup, I would have to say they are. I blame AOL for starting it all.
>> The "dumbing down" of computers started with AOL.
>
> Fuckin' A! I can't tell you how many people approached me begging me to
> fix their "AOL" so they can talk to their Aunt Matilda. In most cases
> the monitor was turned off.

Either that or not plugged in at all? That and the people that left a
floppy disc in the disk drive and couldn't figure out why the computer
wouldn't boot up. That and its got to the point that if it doesn't have
an icon to click on, it was "too confusing". The "point and click"
people now that would be lost if stuck in front of a C:> prompt. Its
saddening.

Part of me likes the fact computers have become more accessible, but the
downside is tons of people that quite frankly shouldn't be using
computers have them and then have tons of problems and then complain how
much the OS sucks because of their inability to understand and use the
computer.

 

[MJMIII]

"milt" <theatre_nospam_guy@miltsweb.com> wrote in message
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> On 1/17/2010 10:55 AM, MJMIII wrote:
>> "milt" <theatre_nospam_guy@miltsweb.com> wrote in message
>> news:hivca3$64i$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>> On 1/16/2010 11:43 AM, Gordon wrote:
>>>> I don't think I have EVER seen as many howlers as there are on the MS
>>>> Win 7 forums, or as many totally dense people.
>>>>
>>>> I certainly don't recall anything LIKE this level of complete ignorance
>>>> when XP or Vista came out...
>>>
>>> Yup, I would have to say they are. I blame AOL for starting it all.
>>> The "dumbing down" of computers started with AOL.
>>
>> Fuckin' A! I can't tell you how many people approached me begging me to
>> fix their "AOL" so they can talk to their Aunt Matilda. In most cases
>> the monitor was turned off.
>
> Either that or not plugged in at all? That and the people that left a
> floppy disc in the disk drive and couldn't figure out why the computer
> wouldn't boot up. That and its got to the point that if it doesn't have an
> icon to click on, it was "too confusing". The "point and click" people now
> that would be lost if stuck in front of a C:> prompt. Its saddening.
>
> Part of me likes the fact computers have become more accessible, but the
> downside is tons of people that quite frankly shouldn't be using computers
> have them and then have tons of problems and then complain how much the OS
> sucks because of their inability to understand and use the computer.

Damned know-it-all kids, and I mean kids of all ages.
--


"Don't pick a fight with an old man.
If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you."

 

[thanatoid]

milt <theatre_nospam_guy@miltsweb.com> wrote in
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> On 1/17/2010 10:55 AM, MJMIII wrote:
>> "milt" <theatre_nospam_guy@miltsweb.com> wrote in message
>> news:hivca3$64i$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>> On 1/16/2010 11:43 AM, Gordon wrote:

<SNIP>

> Either that or not plugged in at all? That and the people
> that left a floppy disc in the disk drive and couldn't
> figure out why the computer wouldn't boot up. That and its
> got to the point that if it doesn't have an icon to click
> on, it was "too confusing". The "point and click" people
> now that would be lost if stuck in front of a C:> prompt.
> Its saddening.
>
> Part of me likes the fact computers have become more
> accessible, but the downside is tons of people that quite
> frankly shouldn't be using computers have them and then
> have tons of problems and then complain how much the OS
> sucks because of their inability to understand and use the
> computer.

Computers should NEVER have been allowed to be released to the
general public. But they make for a great surveillance tool for
totalitarian regimes, AND they make LOTS of money for our
friends the Chinese and MS, so...

OTOH, HOW would we kill time now that everything is getting so
boring and stupid?



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and those that will break later.
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not the ball player. But who knows. I can't remember where I got
the quote. But it's true.)

 

[Lord Vetinari]

"Conor" <conor@gmx.co.uk> wrote in message
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> In article <vbn4n.59847$Db2.8455@edtnps83>, Augustus says...
>>
>> >> I certainly don't recall anything LIKE this level of complete
>> >> ignorance
>> >> when XP or Vista came out...
>>
>> Not when XP came out, no.
>
> You are either a liar or haven't been into computers that long.
>
> When XP came out, people complained about software not working, hardware
> not working, buggy drivers, constant crashes etc. In fact, the
> comparisons between XP and Vista were astonishing however people seem to
> have short memories. XP only became decent once SP1 came out.

That was precisely why I was not an early adopter.

 

[Lord Vetinari]

"Charles Tomaras" <tomaras@tomaras.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Ophelia" <Ophelia@Elsinore.me.uk> wrote in message
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>>
>>
>> "Charles Tomaras" <tomaras@tomaras.com> wrote in message
>> news:N0o4n.1234$SJ7.1114@newsfe07.iad...
>>> You mention that no one wanted a newly updated GUI but I think that
>>> sales statistics for the Windows 7 will prove you wrong on that point
>>> because there is still very little that can't be done with Windows XP.
>>
>> I think that more to the point, if we need a new computer, we don't have
>> a choice!
>
> Yes and it's difficult to buy a new car without seat beats or air bags.
>
> No one if forcing you to buy Windows 7. I believe you can still buy a Mac,
> or even a box with Linux or no OS if you shop at at a local box maker.

Not just local box builders...I bought my current laptop online...without a
HD in it (I had already purchased one locally). Of course, I build my own
boxes........

 

[Lord Vetinari]

"Ophelia" <Ophelia@Elsinore.me.uk> wrote in message
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>
>
> "Gilgamesh" <gilgamesh@dont.spam.me> wrote in message
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>>
>> "Zootal" <nospam@spam.zootal.nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:Xns9D02B78E572D5nospamspamzootalnosp@216.196.97.131...
>>> "Gilgamesh" <gilgamesh@dont.spam.me> wrote in
>>> news:00dbe9d4$0$15597$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Zootal" <nospam@spam.zootal.nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:Xns9D0267A83F900nospamspamzootalnosp@216.196.97.131...
>>>>> "Gordon" <gordonbparker@yahoo.com> wrote in
>>>>> news:7rec5fF3iqU1@mid.individual.net:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't think I have EVER seen as many howlers as there are on the
>>>>>> MS Win 7 forums, or as many totally dense people.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I certainly don't recall anything LIKE this level of complete
>>>>>> ignorance when XP or Vista came out...
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I've been a programmer for twenty years, and yes, the current
>>>>> computer generation is pretty clueless. Back in the good old days, a
>>>>> programmer had to know how to configure drivers via config.sys to use
>>>>> upper memory, and as little as possible. We had to know memory
>>>>> managers,
>>>>
>>>> Back in my programming days we had to zap object code to get it to
>>>> function properly when compiled (this is back in the days before PCs
>>>> and DOS).;
>>>>
>>>
>>> Used to work on an old Sperry Univac V76 system. We had a decent linker,
>>> fortunately. It was a serious PITA to work with the system. We didn't
>>> have
>>> monitors, we had TI Silent 700's thermal printers as our terminal.
>>> <shudder>
>>
>> Real programmers don't eat quiche
>> Real programmers don't even know how to spell keysh.
>>
>> Real programmers don't debug code.
>> Real programmers make software work by toggling the various switches on
>> the front of the computer.
>>
>> Real programmers don't work 9 to 5.
>> If you see a programmer at 9 AM it's because they worked all night
>> correcting a user error.
>>
>> Real programmers can make their software work in 10K of memory
>
> *applause* )

Heheh. I'd love to see WoW do that!

 

[Lord Vetinari]

"John Morrison" <the_morrisons@com.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 09:27:10 +1300, "Fred" <reg@parachute.net.nz> wrote:
>>
>>"Gordon" <gordonbparker@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:7rec5fF3iqU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>I don't think I have EVER seen as many howlers as there are on the MS Win
>>>7
>>>forums, or as many totally dense people.
>>>
>>> I certainly don't recall anything LIKE this level of complete ignorance
>>> when XP or Vista came out...
>>
>>I'm sure most people buy a computer to use. Not to spend half their lives
>>updating, downloading patches, looking for solutions for problems (but
>>never
>>called anything but issues).
>>
>> In the early 1900's every motorist knew how to
>>rebuild his vehicle and do running roadside repairs. Right up until the
>>60s
>>most schoolboys could tune an engine, reline brakes etc. Now very few
>>could
>>even change a spark plug. And that is progress.
>
> Fair enough Fred.
>
> At 17 Years of age my first car was a 2nd hand 1937 Studebaker Dictator.
> Because of economics and the small wages I was earning at the time I had
> to learn how to be able to perform my own vehicle maintenance & repairs.
>
>>In the meantime users should be encouraged to use this and similar groups
>>to
>>try and get their heads around the things they need to know without having
>>to have some 'entry level knowledge', or without being called dense.
>
> I certainly agree with that Fred. I bought my first computer in 1992 and
> I had never used a computer before. When I got it home my first thought
> was "s**t" what do I do now?
>
> I joined Melbourne PC Users Group and was welcomed and received a
> tremendous amount of help and it was suggested that I would benefit by
> reading news groups. So I signed up for Gravity 2.3 (I think it was) and
> started reading news groups with Gravity until it closed then I switched
> to Forte Agent.

Ummmmm...Gravity never closed. MicroPlanet stopped _selling_ it, and made
it open source. It has been updated on occasion, since then. Gravity
v2.9.14? came out in December 2009. Time for me to see if it's gotten where
I need it, yet.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/mpgravity/files/

> At that time Internet access was limited to only 2 hours per day.

Bummer. I couldn't afford the internet until 1992 or 1993....Prairienet was
free, back then. Fortunately for me, I've only been limited to what I could
afford (sometimes, not very much at all). I think PLATO spoiled me - when I
started using PCs, they were toys, compared to even the wimpiest mainframe.

> Unfortunately newsgroups such as this are now not welcoming for new users.

Bullshit. If you're looking for warm fuzzies, you're in the wrong place -
but if you're looking for information and advice, from experienced users,
yes, you ARE in the right place! Of course, if you're really just
interested in trolls, you can find them just about anywhere......

 

[Lord Vetinari]

"thanatoid" <waiting@the.exit.invalid> wrote in message
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> "Gordon" <gordonbparker@yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:7rec5fF3iqU1@mid.individual.net:
>
>> I don't think I have EVER seen as many howlers as there are
>> on the MS Win 7 forums, or as many totally dense people.
>>
>> I certainly don't recall anything LIKE this level of
>> complete ignorance when XP or Vista came out...
>
> I have been in this group (out of pure curiosity, I will die
> torn apart by four horses before I use Win7 (Win6.1) or Vista
> (Win6), and it is actually less stupid than the XP groups which
> I have been in for about 5-7 weeks. I still use 98SELite for
> almost everything, I needed to install XP for ONE reason only,
> and it will be gone as soon as I'm done with that app. But I can
> not believe the stupidity of most XP group denizens compared to
> the pre-XP groups (when they were popular, but even now, maybe
> especially now...:

Ah, a master crapsman. Win98SE won't run hardly anything new, you
know...I'm sure you do, too....troll.

> In answer to your question, due to the concerted efforts of
> software manufacturers, the mass media, and 21st Century
> governments, people in general /are/ getting dumber and dumber
> on the average. Most people should not even be allowed to OWN a
> computer - but it makes a perfect surveillance tool for a
> person's entire life/activities, so totalitarian governments
> (like the USA and China) love them.

You're the poster child for it, you paranoid troll, you.

 

[Lord Vetinari]

"milt" <theatre_nospam_guy@miltsweb.com> wrote in message
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> On 1/16/2010 11:43 AM, Gordon wrote:
>> I don't think I have EVER seen as many howlers as there are on the MS
>> Win 7 forums, or as many totally dense people.
>>
>> I certainly don't recall anything LIKE this level of complete ignorance
>> when XP or Vista came out...
>
> Yup, I would have to say they are. I blame AOL for starting it all. The
> "dumbing down" of computers started with AOL.

Eternal September, eh?

 

[Lord Vetinari]

"MJMIII" <balrog@castaway.net> wrote in message
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> "milt" <theatre_nospam_guy@miltsweb.com> wrote in message
> news:hivca3$64i$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>> On 1/16/2010 11:43 AM, Gordon wrote:
>>> I don't think I have EVER seen as many howlers as there are on the MS
>>> Win 7 forums, or as many totally dense people.
>>>
>>> I certainly don't recall anything LIKE this level of complete ignorance
>>> when XP or Vista came out...
>>
>> Yup, I would have to say they are. I blame AOL for starting it all. The
>> "dumbing down" of computers started with AOL.
>
> Fuckin' A! I can't tell you how many people approached me begging me to
> fix their "AOL" so they can talk to their Aunt Matilda. In most cases the
> monitor was turned off.

....and the ones who didn't realize that they didn't require AOL to get
online, so they insisted that they needed to have it installed. Usually at
least three or four versions, too.

 

[Lord Vetinari]

"thanatoid" <waiting@the.exit.invalid> wrote in message
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> milt <theatre_nospam_guy@miltsweb.com> wrote in
> news:hj2t8k$a1t$1@news.eternal-september.org:
>
>> On 1/17/2010 10:55 AM, MJMIII wrote:
>>> "milt" <theatre_nospam_guy@miltsweb.com> wrote in message
>>> news:hivca3$64i$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>> On 1/16/2010 11:43 AM, Gordon wrote:
>
> <SNIP>
>
>> Either that or not plugged in at all? That and the people
>> that left a floppy disc in the disk drive and couldn't
>> figure out why the computer wouldn't boot up. That and its
>> got to the point that if it doesn't have an icon to click
>> on, it was "too confusing". The "point and click" people
>> now that would be lost if stuck in front of a C:> prompt.
>> Its saddening.
>>
>> Part of me likes the fact computers have become more
>> accessible, but the downside is tons of people that quite
>> frankly shouldn't be using computers have them and then
>> have tons of problems and then complain how much the OS
>> sucks because of their inability to understand and use the
>> computer.
>
> Computers should NEVER have been allowed to be released to the
> general public.

At least, not to you, anyway.

> But they make for a great surveillance tool for
> totalitarian regimes, AND they make LOTS of money for our
> friends the Chinese and MS, so...

Silly boy ya' self-destroyer. Silly boy ya' self-destroyer

Silly boy you got so much to live for
So much to aim for, so much to try for
You're blowing it all with paranoia
You're so insecure you self-destroyer

> OTOH, HOW would we kill time now that everything is getting so
> boring and stupid?

We? You're one of the "boring and stupid" on this ng, but you're only a
single one, not multiples...or do you have multiple personalities? Wouldn't
surprise me.

 

[Lord Vetinari]

"Leythos" <spam999free@rrohio.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.25be8ceef7b1c6c698a0b9@us.news.astraweb.com...
> In article <7rec5fF3iqU1@mid.individual.net>, gordonbparker@yahoo.com
> says...
>>
>> I don't think I have EVER seen as many howlers as there are on the MS Win
>> 7
>> forums, or as many totally dense people.
>>
>> I certainly don't recall anything LIKE this level of complete ignorance
>> when
>> XP or Vista came out...
>
> If people took the time to understand their computer like they do the
> remote for the TV we would see a lot less in the way of problems.

If people understood their computer as well as they understand their remote,
nothing would be different. I know far too many people who can't handle
such simple tasks.

> Just imagine if people would actually comprehend the warnings about
> security threats that they've been hearing for a decade, that all still
> apply, how many people would not be compromised....
>
> If you want to look at how bad it's going to be - volunteer in any
> public school, grade 7+, and you will be amazed at how stupid the
> students and teachers are.

Oh, I see, you're in 7th grade, are you? Heh. I'm not in the least
surprised...it was bad in the '70s, and has only gotten worse, since.