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General Question <XP vs 7>

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Frank

Flightless Bird
On 6/16/2010 10:11 AM, Alias wrote:
> Marti van Lin wrote:
>> Op 16-06-10 16:56, Frank wrote:
>>> On 6/16/2010 4:27 AM, Marti van Lin wrote:
>>>> Op 15-06-10 06:10, Frank wrote:
>>>>> On 6/14/2010 7:37 PM, JC wrote:
>>>>>> First allow me to apologize as I am no USENET guru. Typically when I
>>>>>> decide
>>>>>> to make a post in hopes some kind soul(s) will give some
>>>>>> input/feedback
>>>>>> towards my interests/concerns I am clueless which group to post to.
>>>>>> But I
>>>>>> will say I generally get a positive reponse where ever I post.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For the past five or so years I have used 2000 on my home machines.
>>>>>> They
>>>>>> actually still use 98 on the clients where I work (which is medical
>>>>>> laboratory) with an antiquated Novell network o/s and Oracle DBMS on
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> server. This is primarily due to the fact that I have very antiquated
>>>>>> tools
>>>>>> (Visual Cafe for my IDE with SDK 1.1); my app will only run on 98
>>>>>> machines.
>>>>>> Anyway, that is neither here nor there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My question is about Windows XP vs 7. I am at a point where I would
>>>>>> like to
>>>>>> upgrade my home machines to XP. Even though I've been using 2000 for
>>>>>> so long
>>>>>> (and very satisfied with it) I do have some XP experience/knowledge.
>>>>>> Problem
>>>>>> is that one of the used machines I just purchased has XP on it
>>>>>> because
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> is what was on it when I got it. Seems like it is not possible to
>>>>>> purchase
>>>>>> XP nowadays. It is all Windows 7.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A few friends here and there have had me come and look at their
>>>>>> Windows 7
>>>>>> machines. They think because I have a degree in CompSci/Math that I
>>>>>> know
>>>>>> everything there is to know about computers. I cannot make them
>>>>>> understand I
>>>>>> am a GUI programmer, database programmer, amateur DBA, and data
>>>>>> analyst. I
>>>>>> keep telling them I am not a technician but they will not believe
>>>>>> me. The
>>>>>> handful of times I've played around with a Windows 7 machine so far
>>>>>> I've
>>>>>> found it very counterintuitive and confusing. I do not like it at
>>>>>> all!
>>>>>> Not
>>>>>> knowing much about XP anytime I've worked on an XP machine I've
>>>>>> typically
>>>>>> had little if any problems.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So the question I guess: Is XP a thing of the past? Can I no longer
>>>>>> get XP
>>>>>> (it definitely is not in stores)? If I wanted to migrate the clients
>>>>>> to XP
>>>>>> at work would that not be possible?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Many Thanks,
>>>>>> -JC
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Take the plunge and go with 7, otherwise you'll be left far behind
>>>>> very
>>>>> quickly. 7 is the very best OS available today.
>>>>
>>>> Or why not take the plunge and go with GNU/Linux? which is - in
>>>> contrast
>>>> to any Microsoft Windows version - supported for all eternity.
>>>>
>>>> If you migrate to ether Windows XP or 7, in time you will have the same
>>>> problem. Microsoft will quit supporting Windows 7 (XP will be killed in
>>>> 2014) and forces you to buy a new version.
>>>>
>>>> Beside that, migrating from Windows 98/2000 to ether Windows XP or 7 is
>>>> quite a culture shock. The GUI is totally different.
>>>>
>>>> So if you're at it, why not take the plunge and move to Ubuntu for
>>>> example?
>>>>
>>>> It saves you and your organization lots of licensing money (because
>>>> it's
>>>> gratis and fully legal) and the amount of development tools (IDE's
>>>> etc.)
>>>> available for GNU/Linux, will knock you off your socks ;-)
>>>>
>>>> You are still able to use Windows 98 if that is important. Simply
>>>> install Oracle VirtualBox (Desktop virtualisator) and install
>>>> Windows 98
>>>> in a virtual machine.
>>>>
>>>> I've done it before and it worked flawlessly. And just to think I am
>>>> only a hobbyist home user ;-)
>>>>
>>>> You can have gratis support right here:
>>>>
>>>> http://ubuntuusers.de/
>>>>
>>>> or (if you are not German) here:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.ubuntu.com/
>>>>
>>>> With kind regards,
>>>>
>>> Nobody is looking to downgrade, which is what you're recommending.
>>
>> You are a Liar and a fraud!
>
> He's actually much worse.
>
You two linturds need to get a room.
>>
>> I'm not interested in arguing with a religious "what ever company,
>> Operating System, distro" zealot :p
>>
>> *plonk*
>>
>
> And yet another person plonks Frank the Wank.

Another linturd nobody (except you) gives a shit about.
>
 
F

Frank

Flightless Bird
On 6/16/2010 8:36 AM, Marti van Lin wrote:
> Op 16-06-10 17:02, Leythos wrote:
>> In article<hvacek$f97$1@news.albasani.net>, ml2mst@gmail.com says...
>>> Or why not take the plunge and go with GNU/Linux? which is - in contrast
>>> to any Microsoft Windows version - supported for all eternity.
>>>
>>
>> That's not really true - the new versions are released, updates are
>> released, at some point you upgrade because they don't keep supporting
>> version ABC.ABC...
>
> There for distributions provide a distribution upgrade, from the update
> manager.
>
> I kept on working while the distribution upgrade from the former Long
> Term Support version to the current LTS version was in progress.
>
>> The reason people don't run Linux more than they already do is support
>> and compatibility with devices and people not running Linux.
>
> I'm sorry I didn't have any problems with hardware support for the last
> five years.
>
> If you don't have a driver disk for WinXP or 7, your screwed too. Under
> GNU/Linux it's much more likely that your hardware will be supported
> right out of the box.
>
Now you're a GD LIAR, which is typical of you linutrd asshole losers.
Just like alias, the sheep-fucking lying linturd POS loser asshole creep.
 
F

Frank

Flightless Bird
alias lies again!

On 6/16/2010 9:14 AM, Alias wrote:
> Leythos wrote:
>> In article<hvar1p$76s$1@news.albasani.net>, ml2mst@gmail.com says...
>>>
>>> Op 16-06-10 17:02, Leythos wrote:
>>>> In article<hvacek$f97$1@news.albasani.net>, ml2mst@gmail.com says...
>>>>> Or why not take the plunge and go with GNU/Linux? which is - in
>>>>> contrast
>>>>> to any Microsoft Windows version - supported for all eternity.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That's not really true - the new versions are released, updates are
>>>> released, at some point you upgrade because they don't keep supporting
>>>> version ABC.ABC...
>>>
>>> There for distributions provide a distribution upgrade, from the update
>>> manager.
>>>
>>> I kept on working while the distribution upgrade from the former Long
>>> Term Support version to the current LTS version was in progress.
>>>
>>>> The reason people don't run Linux more than they already do is support
>>>> and compatibility with devices and people not running Linux.
>>>
>>> I'm sorry I didn't have any problems with hardware support for the last
>>> five years.
>>>
>>> If you don't have a driver disk for WinXP or 7, your screwed too. Under
>>> GNU/Linux it's much more likely that your hardware will be supported
>>> right out of the box.
>>
>> How many Epson printers do you have?
>
> I have a few and they work great with Linux.

LIAR! No you don't. You only have ( according to you) one HP printer.
>
>>
>> How many Cannon printers do you have?
>
> Canon is famous for not being Linux friendly but that's Canon's fault
> and lose. A little hardware research will go a long way.

LIAR!
>
>>
>> How many All-In-One printer/scanner/fax devices do you have fully
>> operational with Linux?
>
> I have an HP All-in-One that works just fine. It doesn't have Vista or
> Windows 7 drivers though.
>
More of your lies?
Figures!
STFU LIAR!
>>
>> The list goes on.
>
> So you're saying that Windows 7 will not have a problem with each and
> every printer ever made?

Still making up things others never said.
Figures, What a cock sucking POS LIAR you are.
Get lost creep.
>
>>
>> The one thing we know for sure, drivers for Windows generally come out
>> with the devices and certainly quicker than for Linux.
>>
>
> Research before buying. You don't do that?

Fact it asshole, the world runs on Windows, so most all hardware today
has drivers for Windows OS's.
Live with it loser.
>
 
L

Leythos

Flightless Bird
Re: alias lies again!

In article <4c19085b@news.x-privat.org>, fb@sr2.cmm says...
>
> On 6/16/2010 9:14 AM, Alias wrote:
> > Leythos wrote:
> >> In article<hvar1p$76s$1@news.albasani.net>, ml2mst@gmail.com says...
> >>>
> >>> Op 16-06-10 17:02, Leythos wrote:
> >>>> In article<hvacek$f97$1@news.albasani.net>, ml2mst@gmail.com says...
> >>>>> Or why not take the plunge and go with GNU/Linux? which is - in
> >>>>> contrast
> >>>>> to any Microsoft Windows version - supported for all eternity.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> That's not really true - the new versions are released, updates are
> >>>> released, at some point you upgrade because they don't keep supporting
> >>>> version ABC.ABC...
> >>>
> >>> There for distributions provide a distribution upgrade, from the update
> >>> manager.
> >>>
> >>> I kept on working while the distribution upgrade from the former Long
> >>> Term Support version to the current LTS version was in progress.
> >>>
> >>>> The reason people don't run Linux more than they already do is support
> >>>> and compatibility with devices and people not running Linux.
> >>>
> >>> I'm sorry I didn't have any problems with hardware support for the last
> >>> five years.
> >>>
> >>> If you don't have a driver disk for WinXP or 7, your screwed too. Under
> >>> GNU/Linux it's much more likely that your hardware will be supported
> >>> right out of the box.
> >>
> >> How many Epson printers do you have?
> >
> > I have a few and they work great with Linux.
>
> LIAR! No you don't. You only have ( according to you) one HP printer.
> >
> >>
> >> How many Cannon printers do you have?
> >
> > Canon is famous for not being Linux friendly but that's Canon's fault
> > and lose. A little hardware research will go a long way.
>
> LIAR!
> >
> >>
> >> How many All-In-One printer/scanner/fax devices do you have fully
> >> operational with Linux?
> >
> > I have an HP All-in-One that works just fine. It doesn't have Vista or
> > Windows 7 drivers though.
> >
> More of your lies?
> Figures!
> STFU LIAR!
> >>
> >> The list goes on.
> >
> > So you're saying that Windows 7 will not have a problem with each and
> > every printer ever made?
>
> Still making up things others never said.
> Figures, What a cock sucking POS LIAR you are.
> Get lost creep.
> >
> >>
> >> The one thing we know for sure, drivers for Windows generally come out
> >> with the devices and certainly quicker than for Linux.
> >>
> >
> > Research before buying. You don't do that?
>
> Fact it asshole, the world runs on Windows, so most all hardware today
> has drivers for Windows OS's.
> Live with it loser.
> >

I have Alias kill filed, but it's obvious to anyone that's actually used
Linux that he's lying, they have crappy printer support and a lot of the
supported printers have basic controls and not the feature rich controls
or options that are included with most Windows printer drivers.

My video card, on one of my laptops, does not have a direct Windows 7
driver, but, something Alias would not know, is that the XP driver works
perfectly and at all the same resolutions. On a Linux distro I can only
get 1024x768, and since the laptop is a wide screen, the fonts are
skewed.

I can remember Alias bashing vist, claiming direct problems experience,
and then he slipped up and admitted he had never installed Vista or even
used it himself...

--
You can't trust your best friends, your five senses, only the little
voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that.
Trust yourself.
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A

Alias

Flightless Bird
Re: alias lies again!

Leythos wrote:
> In article<4c19085b@news.x-privat.org>, fb@sr2.cmm says...
>>
>> On 6/16/2010 9:14 AM, Alias wrote:
>>> Leythos wrote:
>>>> In article<hvar1p$76s$1@news.albasani.net>, ml2mst@gmail.com says...
>>>>>
>>>>> Op 16-06-10 17:02, Leythos wrote:
>>>>>> In article<hvacek$f97$1@news.albasani.net>, ml2mst@gmail.com says...
>>>>>>> Or why not take the plunge and go with GNU/Linux? which is - in
>>>>>>> contrast
>>>>>>> to any Microsoft Windows version - supported for all eternity.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's not really true - the new versions are released, updates are
>>>>>> released, at some point you upgrade because they don't keep supporting
>>>>>> version ABC.ABC...
>>>>>
>>>>> There for distributions provide a distribution upgrade, from the update
>>>>> manager.
>>>>>
>>>>> I kept on working while the distribution upgrade from the former Long
>>>>> Term Support version to the current LTS version was in progress.
>>>>>
>>>>>> The reason people don't run Linux more than they already do is support
>>>>>> and compatibility with devices and people not running Linux.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm sorry I didn't have any problems with hardware support for the last
>>>>> five years.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you don't have a driver disk for WinXP or 7, your screwed too. Under
>>>>> GNU/Linux it's much more likely that your hardware will be supported
>>>>> right out of the box.
>>>>
>>>> How many Epson printers do you have?
>>>
>>> I have a few and they work great with Linux.
>>
>> LIAR! No you don't. You only have ( according to you) one HP printer.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> How many Cannon printers do you have?
>>>
>>> Canon is famous for not being Linux friendly but that's Canon's fault
>>> and lose. A little hardware research will go a long way.
>>
>> LIAR!
>>>
>>>>
>>>> How many All-In-One printer/scanner/fax devices do you have fully
>>>> operational with Linux?
>>>
>>> I have an HP All-in-One that works just fine. It doesn't have Vista or
>>> Windows 7 drivers though.
>>>
>> More of your lies?
>> Figures!
>> STFU LIAR!
>>>>
>>>> The list goes on.
>>>
>>> So you're saying that Windows 7 will not have a problem with each and
>>> every printer ever made?
>>
>> Still making up things others never said.
>> Figures, What a cock sucking POS LIAR you are.
>> Get lost creep.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> The one thing we know for sure, drivers for Windows generally come out
>>>> with the devices and certainly quicker than for Linux.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Research before buying. You don't do that?
>>
>> Fact it asshole, the world runs on Windows, so most all hardware today
>> has drivers for Windows OS's.
>> Live with it loser.
>>>
>
> I have Alias kill filed, but it's obvious to anyone that's actually used
> Linux that he's lying, they have crappy printer support and a lot of the
> supported printers have basic controls and not the feature rich controls
> or options that are included with most Windows printer drivers.

You obviously haven't installed the latest Ubuntu but that won't stop
you from lying about it.
>
> My video card, on one of my laptops, does not have a direct Windows 7
> driver, but, something Alias would not know, is that the XP driver works
> perfectly and at all the same resolutions. On a Linux distro I can only
> get 1024x768, and since the laptop is a wide screen, the fonts are
> skewed.

Not Ubuntu. Probably one of the distros you say are "better".
>
> I can remember Alias bashing vist, claiming direct problems experience,
> and then he slipped up and admitted he had never installed Vista or even
> used it himself...
>

Got any more lies you can't substantiate? I find it interesting that you
have me kill filed but don't have Frank kill filed. I guess your
priorities are about as skewered as your version of the truth.

--
Alias
 
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Bill Yanaire, ESQ

Flightless Bird
"Alias" <aka@hewhoismasked&anonymous.com> wrote in message
news:hva5s3$8op$6@news.eternal-september.org...
>> You are right. Ubuntu doesn't have the problem of BECOMING outdated. It
>> has always been OUTDATED and therefore irrelevant to 99.9999999% of the
>> computer users who try that piece of shit OS.
>>
>>
>
> As we all know, you're too stupid to install Ubuntu and don't know what
> the fuck you're talking about. Your ever post proves this.
>
> --
> Alias

There you go lying again. I have installed that INFERIOR Ubuntu and
realized that Ubuntu doesn't run the programs I need. Therefore Ubuntu is
worthless. Oops.
 
B

Bill Yanaire, ESQ

Flightless Bird
"Alias" <aka@hewhoismasked&anonymous.com> wrote in message
news:hva5t6$8op$7@news.eternal-september.org...
> On 06/16/2010 04:12 AM, atec7 7 > wrote:
>> Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>> One thing for certain is it's best to stay away from all distros of
>>> Linux. Especially that Shitty Ubuntu.
>>>
>>>
>> Oh look another ill informed winblows apologist
>
> Not to mention too fucking stupid to install and run Ubuntu.
>
> --
> Alias

I am smart enough to know SHIT when I see it. Ubuntu is just that: SHIT!
Oops.
 
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Alias

Flightless Bird
Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:
>
>
> "Alias" <aka@hewhoismasked&anonymous.com> wrote in message
> news:hva5s3$8op$6@news.eternal-september.org...
>>> You are right. Ubuntu doesn't have the problem of BECOMING outdated. It
>>> has always been OUTDATED and therefore irrelevant to 99.9999999% of the
>>> computer users who try that piece of shit OS.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> As we all know, you're too stupid to install Ubuntu and don't know
>> what the fuck you're talking about. Your ever post proves this.
>>
>> --
>> Alias
>
> There you go lying again. I have installed that INFERIOR Ubuntu

No you haven't.

--
Alias
 
A

Alias

Flightless Bird
Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:
>
>
> "Alias" <aka@hewhoismasked&anonymous.com> wrote in message
> news:hva5t6$8op$7@news.eternal-september.org...
>> On 06/16/2010 04:12 AM, atec7 7 > wrote:
>>> Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> One thing for certain is it's best to stay away from all distros of
>>>> Linux. Especially that Shitty Ubuntu.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Oh look another ill informed winblows apologist
>>
>> Not to mention too fucking stupid to install and run Ubuntu.
>>
>> --
>> Alias
>
> I am smart enough to know SHIT when I see it.

No, you're not.

Ubuntu is just that: SHIT!

No it isn't.

> Oops.

You *are* an oops, I agree.

--
Alias
 
N

Neil Harrington

Flightless Bird
"Sj" <Sj@NOTforMAIL.not> wrote in message
news:ifbf16ho5msvnj6vgb64qionouchvcs59o@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 21:37:22 -0500, "JC" <jjcardella@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>First allow me to apologize as I am no USENET guru. Typically when I
>>decide
>>to make a post in hopes some kind soul(s) will give some input/feedback
>>towards my interests/concerns I am clueless which group to post to. But I
>>will say I generally get a positive reponse where ever I post.
>>
>>For the past five or so years I have used 2000 on my home machines. They
>>actually still use 98 on the clients where I work (which is medical
>>laboratory) with an antiquated Novell network o/s and Oracle DBMS on the
>>server. This is primarily due to the fact that I have very antiquated
>>tools
>>(Visual Cafe for my IDE with SDK 1.1); my app will only run on 98
>>machines.
>>Anyway, that is neither here nor there.
>>
>>My question is about Windows XP vs 7. I am at a point where I would like
>>to
>>upgrade my home machines to XP. Even though I've been using 2000 for so
>>long
>>(and very satisfied with it) I do have some XP experience/knowledge.
>>Problem
>>is that one of the used machines I just purchased has XP on it because
>>that
>>is what was on it when I got it. Seems like it is not possible to purchase
>>XP nowadays. It is all Windows 7.
>>
>>A few friends here and there have had me come and look at their Windows 7
>>machines. They think because I have a degree in CompSci/Math that I know
>>everything there is to know about computers. I cannot make them understand
>>I
>>am a GUI programmer, database programmer, amateur DBA, and data analyst. I
>>keep telling them I am not a technician but they will not believe me. The
>>handful of times I've played around with a Windows 7 machine so far I've
>>found it very counterintuitive and confusing. I do not like it at all! Not
>>knowing much about XP anytime I've worked on an XP machine I've typically
>>had little if any problems.
>>
>>So the question I guess: Is XP a thing of the past? Can I no longer get XP
>>(it definitely is not in stores)? If I wanted to migrate the clients to XP
>>at work would that not be possible?
>>
>>Many Thanks,
>>-JC
>
> Here I thought I was the very last 2000 user on the planet!

No, I'll bet there are still a lot of us using Win2000.

>
> Can't help you w/ your question but will follow all the replies, as I
> have access to an unused, relatively new 64 bit/Win 7 computer.
>
> My thoughts were to format the HD & install XP. Is that doable
> on a 64 bit machine? And I didn't know Win 7 has an XP mode.
>
> I'm completely satisfied w/ my 2000 system & will stay w/ it till it
> quits on me. [ . . . ]

I have two Win2000 systems and I believe they are the only computers that
have never given me any trouble of any kind. I've got three WinXP systems
also (four if you count a little Samsung netbook), and I like XP very much,
but its only real advantage over 2000 as far as I'm concerned is that
nowadays it has significantly more support for both hardware and software.
 
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Bill Yanaire, ESQ

Flightless Bird
"Alias" <aka@maskedandanymous.org.invalido> wrote in message
news:hvb8ao$tcg$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Alias" <aka@hewhoismasked&anonymous.com> wrote in message
>> news:hva5s3$8op$6@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>> You are right. Ubuntu doesn't have the problem of BECOMING outdated. It
>>>> has always been OUTDATED and therefore irrelevant to 99.9999999% of the
>>>> computer users who try that piece of shit OS.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> As we all know, you're too stupid to install Ubuntu and don't know
>>> what the fuck you're talking about. Your ever post proves this.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Alias
>>
>> There you go lying again. I have installed that INFERIOR Ubuntu
>
> No you haven't.
>
> --
> Alias

You haven't got the money to purchase a legitimate copy of Windows 7.
 
M

Marti van Lin

Flightless Bird
Op 16-06-10 17:55, Leythos wrote:

> In article <hvar1p$76s$1@news.albasani.net>, ml2mst@gmail.com says...
>>
>> Op 16-06-10 17:02, Leythos wrote:
>>> In article <hvacek$f97$1@news.albasani.net>, ml2mst@gmail.com says...
>>>> Or why not take the plunge and go with GNU/Linux? which is - in contrast
>>>> to any Microsoft Windows version - supported for all eternity.
>>>>
>>>
>>> That's not really true - the new versions are released, updates are
>>> released, at some point you upgrade because they don't keep supporting
>>> version ABC.ABC...
>>
>> There for distributions provide a distribution upgrade, from the update
>> manager.
>>
>> I kept on working while the distribution upgrade from the former Long
>> Term Support version to the current LTS version was in progress.
>>
>>> The reason people don't run Linux more than they already do is support
>>> and compatibility with devices and people not running Linux.
>>
>> I'm sorry I didn't have any problems with hardware support for the last
>> five years.
>>
>> If you don't have a driver disk for WinXP or 7, your screwed too. Under
>> GNU/Linux it's much more likely that your hardware will be supported
>> right out of the box.
>
> How many Epson printers do you have?

I don't, yet I know that Epson provides Linux drivers for ages.

> How many Cannon printers do you have?

I used a Canon BJC-150, which is an extremely "dumb" WinPrinter. I used
the BJC800 driver on SuSE Linux 6.1 in 1999 > and it worked flawlessly.

> How many All-In-One printer/scanner/fax devices do you have fully
> operational with Linux?

I don't have such a device, but people whom I've converted to GNU/Linux
have never complained so far.

> The list goes on.

In your imaginary world...

> The one thing we know for sure, drivers for Windows generally come out
> with the devices and certainly quicker than for Linux.

TÄ¥e other thing we know, is that devices (older that approx half a year)
are usually supported out of the box by GNU/Linux. No (missing) driver
disks required.

Anyway, like I wrote before, I'm not interested in Evangelism and
advocacy or another pointless pissing contest.

With kind regards,

--
|_|0|_| Marti T. van Lin
|-|_|0| Registered GNU/Linux user 513040
|0|0|0| http://www.soundclick.com/martivanlin
 
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Leythos

Flightless Bird
In article <hvbeqr$8j7$1@news.albasani.net>, ml2mst@gmail.com says...
> The other thing we know, is that devices (older that approx half a year)
> are usually supported out of the box by GNU/Linux. No (missing) driver
> disks required.
>
> Anyway, like I wrote before, I'm not interested in Evangelism and
> advocacy or another pointless pissing contest.
>

I wasn't wanting to get into that crap either - I've been working with
Fedora for a decade (at least it seems that long) and AIX before that,
and Ubuntu and a couple others. Having an I.T. business means I'm
exposed to a LOT of systems and hardware, more than a typical home user,
and I've found that Linux, in general, has far less support for devices
than does Windows. I'm not talking about a nix driver that gives the
basics and that's all, I'm talking about full featured drivers like we
see in windows.

--
You can't trust your best friends, your five senses, only the little
voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that.
Trust yourself.
spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)
 
F

Frank

Flightless Bird
Re: alias lies again!

On 6/16/2010 11:45 AM, Alias wrote:
> Leythos wrote:
>> In article<4c19085b@news.x-privat.org>, fb@sr2.cmm says...
>>>
>>> On 6/16/2010 9:14 AM, Alias wrote:
>>>> Leythos wrote:
>>>>> In article<hvar1p$76s$1@news.albasani.net>, ml2mst@gmail.com says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Op 16-06-10 17:02, Leythos wrote:
>>>>>>> In article<hvacek$f97$1@news.albasani.net>, ml2mst@gmail.com says...
>>>>>>>> Or why not take the plunge and go with GNU/Linux? which is - in
>>>>>>>> contrast
>>>>>>>> to any Microsoft Windows version - supported for all eternity.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's not really true - the new versions are released, updates are
>>>>>>> released, at some point you upgrade because they don't keep
>>>>>>> supporting
>>>>>>> version ABC.ABC...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There for distributions provide a distribution upgrade, from the
>>>>>> update
>>>>>> manager.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I kept on working while the distribution upgrade from the former Long
>>>>>> Term Support version to the current LTS version was in progress.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The reason people don't run Linux more than they already do is
>>>>>>> support
>>>>>>> and compatibility with devices and people not running Linux.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm sorry I didn't have any problems with hardware support for the
>>>>>> last
>>>>>> five years.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you don't have a driver disk for WinXP or 7, your screwed too.
>>>>>> Under
>>>>>> GNU/Linux it's much more likely that your hardware will be supported
>>>>>> right out of the box.
>>>>>
>>>>> How many Epson printers do you have?
>>>>
>>>> I have a few and they work great with Linux.
>>>
>>> LIAR! No you don't. You only have ( according to you) one HP printer.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> How many Cannon printers do you have?
>>>>
>>>> Canon is famous for not being Linux friendly but that's Canon's fault
>>>> and lose. A little hardware research will go a long way.
>>>
>>> LIAR!
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> How many All-In-One printer/scanner/fax devices do you have fully
>>>>> operational with Linux?
>>>>
>>>> I have an HP All-in-One that works just fine. It doesn't have Vista or
>>>> Windows 7 drivers though.
>>>>
>>> More of your lies?
>>> Figures!
>>> STFU LIAR!
>>>>>
>>>>> The list goes on.
>>>>
>>>> So you're saying that Windows 7 will not have a problem with each and
>>>> every printer ever made?
>>>
>>> Still making up things others never said.
>>> Figures, What a cock sucking POS LIAR you are.
>>> Get lost creep.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The one thing we know for sure, drivers for Windows generally come out
>>>>> with the devices and certainly quicker than for Linux.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Research before buying. You don't do that?
>>>
>>> Fact it asshole, the world runs on Windows, so most all hardware today
>>> has drivers for Windows OS's.
>>> Live with it loser.
>>>>
>>
>> I have Alias kill filed, but it's obvious to anyone that's actually used
>> Linux that he's lying, they have crappy printer support and a lot of the
>> supported printers have basic controls and not the feature rich controls
>> or options that are included with most Windows printer drivers.
>
> You obviously haven't installed the latest Ubuntu but that won't stop
> you from lying about it.
>>
>> My video card, on one of my laptops, does not have a direct Windows 7
>> driver, but, something Alias would not know, is that the XP driver works
>> perfectly and at all the same resolutions. On a Linux distro I can only
>> get 1024x768, and since the laptop is a wide screen, the fonts are
>> skewed.
>
> Not Ubuntu. Probably one of the distros you say are "better".
>>
>> I can remember Alias bashing vist, claiming direct problems experience,
>> and then he slipped up and admitted he had never installed Vista or even
>> used it himself...
>>
>
> Got any more lies you can't substantiate? I find it interesting that you
> have me kill filed but don't have Frank kill filed.

Why? I make definitive, truthful statements whereas you lie. I actually
have and use a legit copy of Windows 7, you don't.

I guess your
> priorities are about as skewered as your version of the truth.

You are one with skewed priorities, like WTF are you even doing in this ng.
 
F

Frank

Flightless Bird
On 6/16/2010 2:14 PM, Marti van Lin wrote:
> Op 16-06-10 17:55, Leythos wrote:
>
>> In article<hvar1p$76s$1@news.albasani.net>, ml2mst@gmail.com says...
>>>
>>> Op 16-06-10 17:02, Leythos wrote:
>>>> In article<hvacek$f97$1@news.albasani.net>, ml2mst@gmail.com says...
>>>>> Or why not take the plunge and go with GNU/Linux? which is - in contrast
>>>>> to any Microsoft Windows version - supported for all eternity.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That's not really true - the new versions are released, updates are
>>>> released, at some point you upgrade because they don't keep supporting
>>>> version ABC.ABC...
>>>
>>> There for distributions provide a distribution upgrade, from the update
>>> manager.
>>>
>>> I kept on working while the distribution upgrade from the former Long
>>> Term Support version to the current LTS version was in progress.
>>>
>>>> The reason people don't run Linux more than they already do is support
>>>> and compatibility with devices and people not running Linux.
>>>
>>> I'm sorry I didn't have any problems with hardware support for the last
>>> five years.
>>>
>>> If you don't have a driver disk for WinXP or 7, your screwed too. Under
>>> GNU/Linux it's much more likely that your hardware will be supported
>>> right out of the box.
>>
>> How many Epson printers do you have?
>
> I don't, yet I know that Epson provides Linux drivers for ages.
>
>> How many Cannon printers do you have?
>
> I used a Canon BJC-150, which is an extremely "dumb" WinPrinter. I used
> the BJC800 driver on SuSE Linux 6.1 in 1999> and it worked flawlessly.
>
>> How many All-In-One printer/scanner/fax devices do you have fully
>> operational with Linux?
>
> I don't have such a device, but people whom I've converted to GNU/Linux
> have never complained so far.
>
>> The list goes on.
>
> In your imaginary world...
>
>> The one thing we know for sure, drivers for Windows generally come out
>> with the devices and certainly quicker than for Linux.
>
> TÄ¥e other thing we know, is that devices (older that approx half a year)
> are usually supported out of the box by GNU/Linux. No (missing) driver
> disks required.

What lying crock of shit you are.
Go fuck yourself asshole!

> Anyway, like I wrote before, I'm not interested in Evangelism and
> advocacy or another pointless pissing contest.

Then STFU asshole!
>
> With kind regards,
>

Yeah, you dumb fuck!
 
A

Alias

Flightless Bird
Leythos wrote:
> In article<hvbeqr$8j7$1@news.albasani.net>, ml2mst@gmail.com says...
>> The other thing we know, is that devices (older that approx half a year)
>> are usually supported out of the box by GNU/Linux. No (missing) driver
>> disks required.
>>
>> Anyway, like I wrote before, I'm not interested in Evangelism and
>> advocacy or another pointless pissing contest.
>>
>
> I wasn't wanting to get into that crap either - I've been working with
> Fedora for a decade (at least it seems that long) and AIX before that,
> and Ubuntu and a couple others. Having an I.T. business means I'm
> exposed to a LOT of systems and hardware, more than a typical home user,
> and I've found that Linux, in general, has far less support for devices
> than does Windows. I'm not talking about a nix driver that gives the
> basics and that's all, I'm talking about full featured drivers like we
> see in windows.
>

Ubuntu has the HP Toobox in the Software Center (a place you've
obviously never been) and it provides everything the CD for Windows
provides.

It's interesting how this Win troll will constantly say it's HP's,
Canon's, etc. fault when they don't provide drivers for Windows but it's
Linux' fault when they don't provide drivers for Linux.

--
Alias
 
A

Alias

Flightless Bird
Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:
>
>
> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanymous.org.invalido> wrote in message
> news:hvb8ao$tcg$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>> Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> "Alias" <aka@hewhoismasked&anonymous.com> wrote in message
>>> news:hva5s3$8op$6@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>> You are right. Ubuntu doesn't have the problem of BECOMING
>>>>> outdated. It
>>>>> has always been OUTDATED and therefore irrelevant to 99.9999999% of
>>>>> the
>>>>> computer users who try that piece of shit OS.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> As we all know, you're too stupid to install Ubuntu and don't know
>>>> what the fuck you're talking about. Your ever post proves this.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Alias
>>>
>>> There you go lying again. I have installed that INFERIOR Ubuntu
>>
>> No you haven't.
>>
>> --
>> Alias
>
> You haven't got the money to purchase a legitimate copy of Windows 7.
>
>

This Friday I am buying two very expensive 17" laptops, both with
Windows 7 preinstalled. After I get rid of the crap ware that comes with
it and burn the back up DVDs, I will post from Windows 7 just for you.
What will you say then?

--
Alias
 
D

Death

Flightless Bird
Alias wrote:

> Leythos wrote:
>> In article<hvbeqr$8j7$1@news.albasani.net>, ml2mst@gmail.com says...
>>> The other thing we know, is that devices (older that approx half a year)
>>> are usually supported out of the box by GNU/Linux. No (missing) driver
>>> disks required.
>>>
>>> Anyway, like I wrote before, I'm not interested in Evangelism and
>>> advocacy or another pointless pissing contest.
>>>
>>
>> I wasn't wanting to get into that crap either - I've been working with
>> Fedora for a decade (at least it seems that long) and AIX before that,
>> and Ubuntu and a couple others. Having an I.T. business means I'm
>> exposed to a LOT of systems and hardware, more than a typical home user,
>> and I've found that Linux, in general, has far less support for devices
>> than does Windows. I'm not talking about a nix driver that gives the
>> basics and that's all, I'm talking about full featured drivers like we
>> see in windows.
>>
>
> Ubuntu has the HP Toobox in the Software Center (a place you've
> obviously never been) and it provides everything the CD for Windows
> provides.
>
> It's interesting how this Win troll will constantly say it's HP's,
> Canon's, etc. fault when they don't provide drivers for Windows but it's
> Linux' fault when they don't provide drivers for Linux.
>

Nobody makes drivers for Linux.
They just sometimes by sheer coincidence work.

--
Vita brevis breviter in brevi finietur,
Mors venit velociter quae neminem veretur.
 
D

Death

Flightless Bird
Alias wrote:

> Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanymous.org.invalido> wrote in message
>> news:hvb8ao$tcg$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>> Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Alias" <aka@hewhoismasked&anonymous.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:hva5s3$8op$6@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>>> You are right. Ubuntu doesn't have the problem of BECOMING
>>>>>> outdated. It
>>>>>> has always been OUTDATED and therefore irrelevant to 99.9999999% of
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> computer users who try that piece of shit OS.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> As we all know, you're too stupid to install Ubuntu and don't know
>>>>> what the fuck you're talking about. Your ever post proves this.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Alias
>>>>
>>>> There you go lying again. I have installed that INFERIOR Ubuntu
>>>
>>> No you haven't.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Alias
>>
>> You haven't got the money to purchase a legitimate copy of Windows 7.
>>
>>
>
> This Friday I am buying two very expensive 17" laptops, both with
> Windows 7 preinstalled. After I get rid of the crap ware that comes with
> it and burn the back up DVDs, I will post from Windows 7 just for you.
> What will you say then?
>

I would say you are planning to steal 2 $500 laptops.

--
Vita brevis breviter in brevi finietur,
Mors venit velociter quae neminem veretur.
 
F

Frank

Flightless Bird
alias admits he has been lying...!!!

On 6/16/2010 4:37 PM, Alias wrote:
> Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanymous.org.invalido> wrote in message
>> news:hvb8ao$tcg$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>> Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Alias" <aka@hewhoismasked&anonymous.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:hva5s3$8op$6@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>>> You are right. Ubuntu doesn't have the problem of BECOMING
>>>>>> outdated. It
>>>>>> has always been OUTDATED and therefore irrelevant to 99.9999999% of
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> computer users who try that piece of shit OS.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> As we all know, you're too stupid to install Ubuntu and don't know
>>>>> what the fuck you're talking about. Your ever post proves this.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Alias
>>>>
>>>> There you go lying again. I have installed that INFERIOR Ubuntu
>>>
>>> No you haven't.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Alias
>>
>> You haven't got the money to purchase a legitimate copy of Windows 7.
>>
>>
>
> This Friday I am buying two very expensive 17" laptops, both with
> Windows 7 preinstalled. After I get rid of the crap ware that comes with
> it and burn the back up DVDs, I will post from Windows 7 just for you.
> What will you say then?
>
WoW! You do realize you have just proven that you have been lying all
this time, as we all knew and expected, about you previously owning
Windows 7.
Big oops!...LOL!
What a POS you are.
 
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