General Question <XP vs 7>

[JC]

First allow me to apologize as I am no USENET guru. Typically when I decide
to make a post in hopes some kind soul(s) will give some input/feedback
towards my interests/concerns I am clueless which group to post to. But I
will say I generally get a positive reponse where ever I post.

For the past five or so years I have used 2000 on my home machines. They
actually still use 98 on the clients where I work (which is medical
laboratory) with an antiquated Novell network o/s and Oracle DBMS on the
server. This is primarily due to the fact that I have very antiquated tools
(Visual Cafe for my IDE with SDK 1.1); my app will only run on 98 machines.
Anyway, that is neither here nor there.

My question is about Windows XP vs 7. I am at a point where I would like to
upgrade my home machines to XP. Even though I've been using 2000 for so long
(and very satisfied with it) I do have some XP experience/knowledge. Problem
is that one of the used machines I just purchased has XP on it because that
is what was on it when I got it. Seems like it is not possible to purchase
XP nowadays. It is all Windows 7.

A few friends here and there have had me come and look at their Windows 7
machines. They think because I have a degree in CompSci/Math that I know
everything there is to know about computers. I cannot make them understand I
am a GUI programmer, database programmer, amateur DBA, and data analyst. I
keep telling them I am not a technician but they will not believe me. The
handful of times I've played around with a Windows 7 machine so far I've
found it very counterintuitive and confusing. I do not like it at all! Not
knowing much about XP anytime I've worked on an XP machine I've typically
had little if any problems.

So the question I guess: Is XP a thing of the past? Can I no longer get XP
(it definitely is not in stores)? If I wanted to migrate the clients to XP
at work would that not be possible?

Many Thanks,
-JC

 

[Bill Baka]

On 06/14/2010 077 PM, JC wrote:
> First allow me to apologize as I am no USENET guru. Typically when I decide
> to make a post in hopes some kind soul(s) will give some input/feedback
> towards my interests/concerns I am clueless which group to post to. But I
> will say I generally get a positive reponse where ever I post.
>
> For the past five or so years I have used 2000 on my home machines. They
> actually still use 98 on the clients where I work (which is medical
> laboratory) with an antiquated Novell network o/s and Oracle DBMS on the
> server. This is primarily due to the fact that I have very antiquated tools
> (Visual Cafe for my IDE with SDK 1.1); my app will only run on 98 machines.
> Anyway, that is neither here nor there.
>
> My question is about Windows XP vs 7. I am at a point where I would like to
> upgrade my home machines to XP. Even though I've been using 2000 for so long
> (and very satisfied with it) I do have some XP experience/knowledge. Problem
> is that one of the used machines I just purchased has XP on it because that
> is what was on it when I got it. Seems like it is not possible to purchase
> XP nowadays. It is all Windows 7.
>
> A few friends here and there have had me come and look at their Windows 7
> machines. They think because I have a degree in CompSci/Math that I know
> everything there is to know about computers. I cannot make them understand I
> am a GUI programmer, database programmer, amateur DBA, and data analyst. I
> keep telling them I am not a technician but they will not believe me. The
> handful of times I've played around with a Windows 7 machine so far I've
> found it very counterintuitive and confusing. I do not like it at all! Not
> knowing much about XP anytime I've worked on an XP machine I've typically
> had little if any problems.
>
> So the question I guess: Is XP a thing of the past? Can I no longer get XP
> (it definitely is not in stores)? If I wanted to migrate the clients to XP
> at work would that not be possible?
>
> Many Thanks,
> -JC
>
>
I can only add a small bit to this. I have both XP and 7 running on a
machine I use mostly in linux mode, and the XP has been happy on it's
own hard drive for years now. I played with the 7 and every time I want
to do something it asks me for my password, and no matter what I try to
do about the explorer screen I get icons instead of the details list I
have on XP. 7 will probably want hardware upgrades but did have a driver
for my HP scanner, so there is at least some support built in.
So far, I still like the XP better, but maybe over time I will warm to
the 7. My vote for now would be to stick with the XP or get brave and
try Linux, Ubuntu in my case. There is also the possibility you could
get a virtual machine like Sun's Virtualbox and run windows as a guest
system under either Linux or XP. There is also VMware server for free if
you are only considering it for personal use. It is a bit more work to
set up, but you may like the versatility. XP should be available on
Ebay, maybe even some new in box, since everyone seems to be biting the
7 bait.
Good luck,
Bill Baka

 

[Frank]

On 6/14/2010 77 PM, JC wrote:
> First allow me to apologize as I am no USENET guru. Typically when I decide
> to make a post in hopes some kind soul(s) will give some input/feedback
> towards my interests/concerns I am clueless which group to post to. But I
> will say I generally get a positive reponse where ever I post.
>
> For the past five or so years I have used 2000 on my home machines. They
> actually still use 98 on the clients where I work (which is medical
> laboratory) with an antiquated Novell network o/s and Oracle DBMS on the
> server. This is primarily due to the fact that I have very antiquated tools
> (Visual Cafe for my IDE with SDK 1.1); my app will only run on 98 machines.
> Anyway, that is neither here nor there.
>
> My question is about Windows XP vs 7. I am at a point where I would like to
> upgrade my home machines to XP. Even though I've been using 2000 for so long
> (and very satisfied with it) I do have some XP experience/knowledge. Problem
> is that one of the used machines I just purchased has XP on it because that
> is what was on it when I got it. Seems like it is not possible to purchase
> XP nowadays. It is all Windows 7.
>
> A few friends here and there have had me come and look at their Windows 7
> machines. They think because I have a degree in CompSci/Math that I know
> everything there is to know about computers. I cannot make them understand I
> am a GUI programmer, database programmer, amateur DBA, and data analyst. I
> keep telling them I am not a technician but they will not believe me. The
> handful of times I've played around with a Windows 7 machine so far I've
> found it very counterintuitive and confusing. I do not like it at all! Not
> knowing much about XP anytime I've worked on an XP machine I've typically
> had little if any problems.
>
> So the question I guess: Is XP a thing of the past? Can I no longer get XP
> (it definitely is not in stores)? If I wanted to migrate the clients to XP
> at work would that not be possible?
>
> Many Thanks,
> -JC
>
>
Take the plunge and go with 7, otherwise you'll be left far behind very
quickly. 7 is the very best OS available today.

 

[a@b.c]

On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 217:22 -0500, "JC" <jjcardella@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>First allow me to apologize as I am no USENET guru. Typically when I decide
>to make a post in hopes some kind soul(s) will give some input/feedback
>towards my interests/concerns I am clueless which group to post to. But I
>will say I generally get a positive reponse where ever I post.
>
>For the past five or so years I have used 2000 on my home machines. They
>actually still use 98 on the clients where I work (which is medical
>laboratory) with an antiquated Novell network o/s and Oracle DBMS on the
>server. This is primarily due to the fact that I have very antiquated tools
>(Visual Cafe for my IDE with SDK 1.1); my app will only run on 98 machines.
>Anyway, that is neither here nor there.
>
>My question is about Windows XP vs 7. I am at a point where I would like to
>upgrade my home machines to XP. Even though I've been using 2000 for so long
>(and very satisfied with it) I do have some XP experience/knowledge. Problem
>is that one of the used machines I just purchased has XP on it because that
>is what was on it when I got it. Seems like it is not possible to purchase
>XP nowadays. It is all Windows 7.
>
>A few friends here and there have had me come and look at their Windows 7
>machines. They think because I have a degree in CompSci/Math that I know
>everything there is to know about computers. I cannot make them understand I
>am a GUI programmer, database programmer, amateur DBA, and data analyst. I
>keep telling them I am not a technician but they will not believe me. The
>handful of times I've played around with a Windows 7 machine so far I've
>found it very counterintuitive and confusing. I do not like it at all! Not
>knowing much about XP anytime I've worked on an XP machine I've typically
>had little if any problems.
>
>So the question I guess: Is XP a thing of the past? Can I no longer get XP
>(it definitely is not in stores)? If I wanted to migrate the clients to XP
>at work would that not be possible?
>
>Many Thanks,
>-JC
>

Theoretically you can buy XP licenses and software on e-bay but you
would have to be extremely careful about choosing a seller, perhaps
relying on e-bay's "top rated seller" designation. Hopefully you could
get a package capable of full activation, although if internet
activation doesn't work you might have to speak to a microsoft rep to
get confirmation that the serial number is unused and can therefore be
properly activated. Be prepared to beg and grovel. It might be
worthwhile to check around your local area where you could physically
examine the package before buying online.

Personally, I intend to use XP until I have a significant application
which requires updating. Internet Explorer 9 so far is the only
announced application which won't run on XP and I couldn't care less
about that.

You're certainly right that Vista and Win7 are both counterintuative
compared to earlier versions of windows and not for the better. But
that's just my opinion, and for me, the only one that counts. As far
as I'm concerned it my computer to do what I want the way I want,
regardless of microsoft's opinion that we can only lease the software
and not own it outright.

 

[Frank]

On 6/14/2010 9:22 PM, a@b.c wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 217:22 -0500, "JC"<jjcardella@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> First allow me to apologize as I am no USENET guru. Typically when I decide
>> to make a post in hopes some kind soul(s) will give some input/feedback
>> towards my interests/concerns I am clueless which group to post to. But I
>> will say I generally get a positive reponse where ever I post.
>>
>> For the past five or so years I have used 2000 on my home machines. They
>> actually still use 98 on the clients where I work (which is medical
>> laboratory) with an antiquated Novell network o/s and Oracle DBMS on the
>> server. This is primarily due to the fact that I have very antiquated tools
>> (Visual Cafe for my IDE with SDK 1.1); my app will only run on 98 machines.
>> Anyway, that is neither here nor there.
>>
>> My question is about Windows XP vs 7. I am at a point where I would like to
>> upgrade my home machines to XP. Even though I've been using 2000 for so long
>> (and very satisfied with it) I do have some XP experience/knowledge. Problem
>> is that one of the used machines I just purchased has XP on it because that
>> is what was on it when I got it. Seems like it is not possible to purchase
>> XP nowadays. It is all Windows 7.
>>
>> A few friends here and there have had me come and look at their Windows 7
>> machines. They think because I have a degree in CompSci/Math that I know
>> everything there is to know about computers. I cannot make them understand I
>> am a GUI programmer, database programmer, amateur DBA, and data analyst. I
>> keep telling them I am not a technician but they will not believe me. The
>> handful of times I've played around with a Windows 7 machine so far I've
>> found it very counterintuitive and confusing. I do not like it at all! Not
>> knowing much about XP anytime I've worked on an XP machine I've typically
>> had little if any problems.
>>
>> So the question I guess: Is XP a thing of the past? Can I no longer get XP
>> (it definitely is not in stores)? If I wanted to migrate the clients to XP
>> at work would that not be possible?
>>
>> Many Thanks,
>> -JC
>>
>
> Theoretically you can buy XP licenses and software on e-bay but you
> would have to be extremely careful about choosing a seller, perhaps
> relying on e-bay's "top rated seller" designation. Hopefully you could
> get a package capable of full activation, although if internet
> activation doesn't work you might have to speak to a microsoft rep to
> get confirmation that the serial number is unused and can therefore be
> properly activated. Be prepared to beg and grovel. It might be
> worthwhile to check around your local area where you could physically
> examine the package before buying online.
>
> Personally, I intend to use XP until I have a significant application
> which requires updating. Internet Explorer 9 so far is the only
> announced application which won't run on XP and I couldn't care less
> about that.
>
> You're certainly right that Vista and Win7 are both counterintuative
> compared to earlier versions of windows and not for the better.

No, they're not. It's just that you've not used them and they took much
longer (5 yrs instead of the usual 3) getting to market.
Once you've used 7 for a while, going back to XP is a real let down.

But
> that's just my opinion, and for me, the only one that counts. As far
> as I'm concerned it my computer to do what I want the way I want,
> regardless of microsoft's opinion that we can only lease the software
> and not own it outright.
>

You "opinion" doesn't change that fact.
Oops!

 

[philo]

On 06/14/2010 11:10 PM, Frank wrote:
> On 6/14/2010 77 PM, JC wrote:
>> First allow me to apologize as I am no USENET guru. Typically when I
>> decide
>> to make a post in hopes some kind soul(s) will give some input/feedback
>> towards my interests/concerns I am clueless which group to post to. But I
>> will say I generally get a positive reponse where ever I post.
>>
>> For the past five or so years I have used 2000 on my home machines. They
>> actually still use 98 on the clients where I work (which is medical
>> laboratory) with an antiquated Novell network o/s and Oracle DBMS on the
>> server. This is primarily due to the fact that I have very antiquated
>> tools
>> (Visual Cafe for my IDE with SDK 1.1); my app will only run on 98
>> machines.
>> Anyway, that is neither here nor there.
>>
>> My question is about Windows XP vs 7. I am at a point where I would
>> like to
>> upgrade my home machines to XP. Even though I've been using 2000 for
>> so long
>> (and very satisfied with it) I do have some XP experience/knowledge.
>> Problem
>> is that one of the used machines I just purchased has XP on it because
>> that
>> is what was on it when I got it. Seems like it is not possible to
>> purchase
>> XP nowadays. It is all Windows 7.
>>
>> A few friends here and there have had me come and look at their Windows 7
>> machines. They think because I have a degree in CompSci/Math that I know
>> everything there is to know about computers. I cannot make them
>> understand I
>> am a GUI programmer, database programmer, amateur DBA, and data
>> analyst. I
>> keep telling them I am not a technician but they will not believe me. The
>> handful of times I've played around with a Windows 7 machine so far I've
>> found it very counterintuitive and confusing. I do not like it at all!
>> Not
>> knowing much about XP anytime I've worked on an XP machine I've typically
>> had little if any problems.
>>
>> So the question I guess: Is XP a thing of the past? Can I no longer
>> get XP
>> (it definitely is not in stores)? If I wanted to migrate the clients
>> to XP
>> at work would that not be possible?
>>
>> Many Thanks,
>> -JC
>>
>>
> Take the plunge and go with 7, otherwise you'll be left far behind very
> quickly. 7 is the very best OS available today.


Total 100% bull

there is no way Win7 will run on a machines that old...
it's strictly for new hardware

 

[Tim Slattery]

"JC" <jjcardella@hotmail.com> wrote:


>So the question I guess: Is XP a thing of the past? Can I no longer get XP
>(it definitely is not in stores)? If I wanted to migrate the clients to XP
>at work would that not be possible?

XP is two versions ago. At this point MS is still supporting it, but
eventually they will drop that while Win7 support continues. You can
bet that support for any new hardware that comes along will be in
Win7, maybe in Vista, but not in XP.

IMHO, migrating your work machines to XP instead of Win7 at this point
would not be a good idea.

--
Tim Slattery
Slattery_T@bls.gov
http://members.cox.net/slatteryt

 

[atec7 7]

JC wrote:
> First allow me to apologize as I am no USENET guru. Typically when I decide
> to make a post in hopes some kind soul(s) will give some input/feedback
> towards my interests/concerns I am clueless which group to post to. But I
> will say I generally get a positive reponse where ever I post.
>
When it's time to improve the hardware win7 is the right choice
( Microsoft (sic)) and maybe another o/s if you wish but there are
hardware demands which must be met .A week on 7 and going back to 2000
will be a dissapointment

 

[Alias]

Tim Slattery wrote:
> "JC"<jjcardella@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>> So the question I guess: Is XP a thing of the past? Can I no longer get XP
>> (it definitely is not in stores)? If I wanted to migrate the clients to XP
>> at work would that not be possible?
>
> XP is two versions ago. At this point MS is still supporting it, but
> eventually they will drop that while Win7 support continues. You can
> bet that support for any new hardware that comes along will be in
> Win7, maybe in Vista, but not in XP.
>
> IMHO, migrating your work machines to XP instead of Win7 at this point
> would not be a good idea.
>

I don't think the hardware folks will stop making XP drivers until XP is
not the OS on the vast majority of computers.

--
Alias

 

[Man-wai Chang to The Door (33600bps)]

> So the question I guess: Is XP a thing of the past? Can I no longer get XP
> (it definitely is not in stores)? If I wanted to migrate the clients to XP
> at work would that not be possible?

32-bit XP is still being used widely! But you should try 32-bit if not
64-bit Win 7. Also, Win 7 has a so-called XP mode.

 

[Frank]

On 6/15/2010 12:40 AM, philo wrote:
> On 06/14/2010 11:10 PM, Frank wrote:
>> On 6/14/2010 77 PM, JC wrote:
>>> First allow me to apologize as I am no USENET guru. Typically when I
>>> decide
>>> to make a post in hopes some kind soul(s) will give some input/feedback
>>> towards my interests/concerns I am clueless which group to post to.
>>> But I
>>> will say I generally get a positive reponse where ever I post.
>>>
>>> For the past five or so years I have used 2000 on my home machines. They
>>> actually still use 98 on the clients where I work (which is medical
>>> laboratory) with an antiquated Novell network o/s and Oracle DBMS on the
>>> server. This is primarily due to the fact that I have very antiquated
>>> tools
>>> (Visual Cafe for my IDE with SDK 1.1); my app will only run on 98
>>> machines.
>>> Anyway, that is neither here nor there.
>>>
>>> My question is about Windows XP vs 7. I am at a point where I would
>>> like to
>>> upgrade my home machines to XP. Even though I've been using 2000 for
>>> so long
>>> (and very satisfied with it) I do have some XP experience/knowledge.
>>> Problem
>>> is that one of the used machines I just purchased has XP on it because
>>> that
>>> is what was on it when I got it. Seems like it is not possible to
>>> purchase
>>> XP nowadays. It is all Windows 7.
>>>
>>> A few friends here and there have had me come and look at their
>>> Windows 7
>>> machines. They think because I have a degree in CompSci/Math that I know
>>> everything there is to know about computers. I cannot make them
>>> understand I
>>> am a GUI programmer, database programmer, amateur DBA, and data
>>> analyst. I
>>> keep telling them I am not a technician but they will not believe me.
>>> The
>>> handful of times I've played around with a Windows 7 machine so far I've
>>> found it very counterintuitive and confusing. I do not like it at all!
>>> Not
>>> knowing much about XP anytime I've worked on an XP machine I've
>>> typically
>>> had little if any problems.
>>>
>>> So the question I guess: Is XP a thing of the past? Can I no longer
>>> get XP
>>> (it definitely is not in stores)? If I wanted to migrate the clients
>>> to XP
>>> at work would that not be possible?
>>>
>>> Many Thanks,
>>> -JC
>>>
>>>
>> Take the plunge and go with 7, otherwise you'll be left far behind very
>> quickly. 7 is the very best OS available today.
>
>
> Total 100% bull
>
> there is no way Win7 will run on a machines that old...
> it's strictly for new hardware

You'd be surprised just how well W 7 will run on some old boxes.

 

[Sj]

On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 217:22 -0500, "JC" <jjcardella@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>First allow me to apologize as I am no USENET guru. Typically when I decide
>to make a post in hopes some kind soul(s) will give some input/feedback
>towards my interests/concerns I am clueless which group to post to. But I
>will say I generally get a positive reponse where ever I post.
>
>For the past five or so years I have used 2000 on my home machines. They
>actually still use 98 on the clients where I work (which is medical
>laboratory) with an antiquated Novell network o/s and Oracle DBMS on the
>server. This is primarily due to the fact that I have very antiquated tools
>(Visual Cafe for my IDE with SDK 1.1); my app will only run on 98 machines.
>Anyway, that is neither here nor there.
>
>My question is about Windows XP vs 7. I am at a point where I would like to
>upgrade my home machines to XP. Even though I've been using 2000 for so long
>(and very satisfied with it) I do have some XP experience/knowledge. Problem
>is that one of the used machines I just purchased has XP on it because that
>is what was on it when I got it. Seems like it is not possible to purchase
>XP nowadays. It is all Windows 7.
>
>A few friends here and there have had me come and look at their Windows 7
>machines. They think because I have a degree in CompSci/Math that I know
>everything there is to know about computers. I cannot make them understand I
>am a GUI programmer, database programmer, amateur DBA, and data analyst. I
>keep telling them I am not a technician but they will not believe me. The
>handful of times I've played around with a Windows 7 machine so far I've
>found it very counterintuitive and confusing. I do not like it at all! Not
>knowing much about XP anytime I've worked on an XP machine I've typically
>had little if any problems.
>
>So the question I guess: Is XP a thing of the past? Can I no longer get XP
>(it definitely is not in stores)? If I wanted to migrate the clients to XP
>at work would that not be possible?
>
>Many Thanks,
>-JC

Here I thought I was the very last 2000 user on the planet!

Can't help you w/ your question but will follow all the replies, as I
have access to an unused, relatively new 64 bit/Win 7 computer.

My thoughts were to format the HD & install XP. Is that doable
on a 64 bit machine? And I didn't know Win 7 has an XP mode.

I'm completely satisfied w/ my 2000 system & will stay w/ it till it
quits on me. My scanner is ancient (an HP ScanJet llc), & I don't
know if it would work on anything else, though HP still stores the
required software (DeskScan 2.9 & Copy Utility) on the web.

About the only things I do is web for info, scan illustrative art
which I post the a few binary ngs & e-mail friends & family.
Scanning takes up the majority of my computer time.

Sj

 

[Frank]

On 6/15/2010 9:50 AM, Sj wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 217:22 -0500, "JC"<jjcardella@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> First allow me to apologize as I am no USENET guru. Typically when I decide
>> to make a post in hopes some kind soul(s) will give some input/feedback
>> towards my interests/concerns I am clueless which group to post to. But I
>> will say I generally get a positive reponse where ever I post.
>>
>> For the past five or so years I have used 2000 on my home machines. They
>> actually still use 98 on the clients where I work (which is medical
>> laboratory) with an antiquated Novell network o/s and Oracle DBMS on the
>> server. This is primarily due to the fact that I have very antiquated tools
>> (Visual Cafe for my IDE with SDK 1.1); my app will only run on 98 machines.
>> Anyway, that is neither here nor there.
>>
>> My question is about Windows XP vs 7. I am at a point where I would like to
>> upgrade my home machines to XP. Even though I've been using 2000 for so long
>> (and very satisfied with it) I do have some XP experience/knowledge. Problem
>> is that one of the used machines I just purchased has XP on it because that
>> is what was on it when I got it. Seems like it is not possible to purchase
>> XP nowadays. It is all Windows 7.
>>
>> A few friends here and there have had me come and look at their Windows 7
>> machines. They think because I have a degree in CompSci/Math that I know
>> everything there is to know about computers. I cannot make them understand I
>> am a GUI programmer, database programmer, amateur DBA, and data analyst. I
>> keep telling them I am not a technician but they will not believe me. The
>> handful of times I've played around with a Windows 7 machine so far I've
>> found it very counterintuitive and confusing. I do not like it at all! Not
>> knowing much about XP anytime I've worked on an XP machine I've typically
>> had little if any problems.
>>
>> So the question I guess: Is XP a thing of the past? Can I no longer get XP
>> (it definitely is not in stores)? If I wanted to migrate the clients to XP
>> at work would that not be possible?
>>
>> Many Thanks,
>> -JC
>
> Here I thought I was the very last 2000 user on the planet!
>
> Can't help you w/ your question but will follow all the replies, as I
> have access to an unused, relatively new 64 bit/Win 7 computer.
>
> My thoughts were to format the HD& install XP. Is that doable
> on a 64 bit machine?

Yes, if XP drivers are available, though it is a downgrade from 7.

And I didn't know Win 7 has an XP mode.

You have to dl and install XP Virtual to use XP Mode. It does not come
"pre-installed".


>
> I'm completely satisfied w/ my 2000 system& will stay w/ it till it
> quits on me. My scanner is ancient (an HP ScanJet llc),& I don't
> know if it would work on anything else, though HP still stores the
> required software (DeskScan 2.9& Copy Utility) on the web.
>
> About the only things I do is web for info, scan illustrative art
> which I post the a few binary ngs& e-mail friends& family.
> Scanning takes up the majority of my computer time.
>
> Sj

 

[Char Jackson]

On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 11:50:23 -0500, Sj <Sj@NOTforMAIL.not> wrote:

>Here I thought I was the very last 2000 user on the planet!
>
>Can't help you w/ your question but will follow all the replies, as I
>have access to an unused, relatively new 64 bit/Win 7 computer.
>
>My thoughts were to format the HD & install XP. Is that doable
>on a 64 bit machine? And I didn't know Win 7 has an XP mode.

Yes, you can format the HD and install XP if you have a copy. The
hardware being 64-bit capable doesn't prevent you from running 32-bit
XP.

Only the higher end versions of Windows 7 include the virtual XP mode.

 

[Frank]

On 6/15/2010 11:26 AM, Char Jackson wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 11:50:23 -0500, Sj<Sj@NOTforMAIL.not> wrote:
>
>> Here I thought I was the very last 2000 user on the planet!
>>
>> Can't help you w/ your question but will follow all the replies, as I
>> have access to an unused, relatively new 64 bit/Win 7 computer.
>>
>> My thoughts were to format the HD& install XP. Is that doable
>> on a 64 bit machine? And I didn't know Win 7 has an XP mode.
>
> Yes, you can format the HD and install XP if you have a copy. The
> hardware being 64-bit capable doesn't prevent you from running 32-bit
> XP.
>
> Only the higher end versions of Windows 7 include the virtual XP mode.
>
No, it (XP Virtual) is not included.
It (XP Virtual) is available for dl.
Big difference.

 

[Bill Yanaire, ESQ]

"Alias" <aka@maskedandanymous.org.invalido> wrote in message
news:hv7ui5$8m6$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> Tim Slattery wrote:
>> "JC"<jjcardella@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> So the question I guess: Is XP a thing of the past? Can I no longer get
>>> XP
>>> (it definitely is not in stores)? If I wanted to migrate the clients to
>>> XP
>>> at work would that not be possible?
>>
>> XP is two versions ago. At this point MS is still supporting it, but
>> eventually they will drop that while Win7 support continues. You can
>> bet that support for any new hardware that comes along will be in
>> Win7, maybe in Vista, but not in XP.
>>
>> IMHO, migrating your work machines to XP instead of Win7 at this point
>> would not be a good idea.
>>
>
> I don't think the hardware folks will stop making XP drivers until XP is
> not the OS on the vast majority of computers.
>
> --
> Alias

One thing for certain is it's best to stay away from all distros of Linux.
Especially that Shitty Ubuntu.

 

[Alias]

Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:
>
>
> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanymous.org.invalido> wrote in message
> news:hv7ui5$8m6$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>> Tim Slattery wrote:
>>> "JC"<jjcardella@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> So the question I guess: Is XP a thing of the past? Can I no longer
>>>> get XP
>>>> (it definitely is not in stores)? If I wanted to migrate the clients
>>>> to XP
>>>> at work would that not be possible?
>>>
>>> XP is two versions ago. At this point MS is still supporting it, but
>>> eventually they will drop that while Win7 support continues. You can
>>> bet that support for any new hardware that comes along will be in
>>> Win7, maybe in Vista, but not in XP.
>>>
>>> IMHO, migrating your work machines to XP instead of Win7 at this point
>>> would not be a good idea.
>>>
>>
>> I don't think the hardware folks will stop making XP drivers until XP
>> is not the OS on the vast majority of computers.
>>
>> --
>> Alias
>
> One thing for certain is it's best to stay away from all distros of
> Linux. Especially that Shitty Ubuntu.
>
>
>

Ubuntu doesn't have the problem of becoming outdated like Windows 3, 95,
98, 98SE, Me, NT 3, NT 4 or XP do which was the subject at hand.

--
Alias

 

[Frank]

On 6/15/2010 12:12 PM, Alias wrote:
> Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanymous.org.invalido> wrote in message
>> news:hv7ui5$8m6$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>> Tim Slattery wrote:
>>>> "JC"<jjcardella@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> So the question I guess: Is XP a thing of the past? Can I no longer
>>>>> get XP
>>>>> (it definitely is not in stores)? If I wanted to migrate the clients
>>>>> to XP
>>>>> at work would that not be possible?
>>>>
>>>> XP is two versions ago. At this point MS is still supporting it, but
>>>> eventually they will drop that while Win7 support continues. You can
>>>> bet that support for any new hardware that comes along will be in
>>>> Win7, maybe in Vista, but not in XP.
>>>>
>>>> IMHO, migrating your work machines to XP instead of Win7 at this point
>>>> would not be a good idea.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I don't think the hardware folks will stop making XP drivers until XP
>>> is not the OS on the vast majority of computers.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Alias
>>
>> One thing for certain is it's best to stay away from all distros of
>> Linux. Especially that Shitty Ubuntu.
>>
>>
>>
>
> Ubuntu doesn't have the problem of becoming outdated like Windows 3, 95,
> 98, 98SE, Me, NT 3, NT 4 or XP do which was the subject at hand.
>
It's permanently outdated.
Oops!

 

[Bill Yanaire, ESQ]

"Alias" <aka@maskedandanymous.org.invalido> wrote in message
news:hv8jah$ukh$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> Bill Yanaire, ESQ wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Alias" <aka@maskedandanymous.org.invalido> wrote in message
>> news:hv7ui5$8m6$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>> Tim Slattery wrote:
>>>> "JC"<jjcardella@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> So the question I guess: Is XP a thing of the past? Can I no longer
>>>>> get XP
>>>>> (it definitely is not in stores)? If I wanted to migrate the clients
>>>>> to XP
>>>>> at work would that not be possible?
>>>>
>>>> XP is two versions ago. At this point MS is still supporting it, but
>>>> eventually they will drop that while Win7 support continues. You can
>>>> bet that support for any new hardware that comes along will be in
>>>> Win7, maybe in Vista, but not in XP.
>>>>
>>>> IMHO, migrating your work machines to XP instead of Win7 at this point
>>>> would not be a good idea.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I don't think the hardware folks will stop making XP drivers until XP
>>> is not the OS on the vast majority of computers.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Alias
>>
>> One thing for certain is it's best to stay away from all distros of
>> Linux. Especially that Shitty Ubuntu.
>>
>>
>>
>
> Ubuntu doesn't have the problem of becoming outdated like Windows 3, 95,
> 98, 98SE, Me, NT 3, NT 4 or XP do which was the subject at hand.
>
> --
> Alias

You are right. Ubuntu doesn't have the problem of BECOMING outdated. It
has always been OUTDATED and therefore irrelevant to 99.9999999% of the
computer users who try that piece of shit OS.

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 11:50:23 -0500, Sj wrote:

> My thoughts were to format the HD & install XP. Is that doable
> on a 64 bit machine? And I didn't know Win 7 has an XP mode.

For you and Man-wai Chang - the XP mode is not available for the Home
editions of Windows 7.

However, a virtual machine such as the free VMware Player can run XP, but
you'd have to find and buy a legitimate copy of XP.

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)