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Dave
Flightless Bird
You are, of course, correct RC. I must have had a little brain-freeze there
so thanks for your input my friend )
Dave
R. C. White wrote:
> Hi, Dave.
>
>> When you go to the shop to buy a brand-new hard drive,...
>> ... It has to be prepared first and that is done by formatting (and
>> if you so wish, partitioning) it.
>
> Mostly correct, but...
>
> Both partitioning and formatting are required before a "drive" can be
> used by Windows. Partitioning is not optional, and must be done
> before formatting.
>
> We never format a physical HDD. We must first create at least one
> partition on the disk, even if that one partition includes the entire
> disk surface. Then we format the partition. When we say "drive", as
> in "Drive C:", we are usually referring to a partition, not the
> entire physical disk drive.
> (Yes, the physical disk must be "low-level formatted", but that is
> done at the factory and seldom - if ever these days - done in the
> field. What we do now - using Disk Management or a 3rd-party utility
> - is a high-level format.)
>
> RC
>
> "Dave" <dont@bother.com> wrote in message
> news:RtCdnfg2mOOmlDjWnZ2dnUVZ8ridnZ2d@bt.com...
>> Trev wrote:
>>> "relic" <relic211@cjb.net> wrote in message
>>> newsjtrjk.3i8.17.1@news.alt.net...
>>>>
>>>> "LSMFT" <boleyn7@aol.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:mrUon.27362$ao7.11589@newsfe21.iad...
>>>>> On 03/19/2010 079 PM, LD55ZRA wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> LSMFT wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How long do I need to keep this directory which was made after
>>>>>>> upgrading
>>>>>>> Vista to Windows 7.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As long as you want to keep it. There is no specific requirement
>>>>>> for it. It is there to enable you to revert back to Vista if you
>>>>>> decide Win7 isn't your type! I did a clean install so don't
>>>>>> have this folder on my system.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> hth
>>>>>
>>>>> I did a clean install also changing from 32 bit Vista to 64 bit
>>>>> WIndows 7 and it made Windows.old.
>>>>
>>>> What do you (and Trev) think a "Clean" install is?
>>>>
>>>> Had you, there's no way you'd have the Windows.Old folder.
>>>
>>> I let winds disc format my C drive and install Win 7 on it Part of
>>> that process is to create a Windows old folder if it find a
>>> Previous OS on the drive.
>>
>> But that's the point - if it was a clean install it would not find a
>> previous OS and so would not create a windows.old folder.
>>
>> When you go to the shop to buy a brand-new hard drive, you can't put
>> it in the computer and expect to start using it straight away
>> because it won't work. It has to be prepared first and that is done
>> by formatting (and if you so wish, partitioning) it. In effect what
>> you're doing is laying out a structure to it, telling it that this
>> area here can be used for this, that area over there can be used for
>> that, etc., etc. In order to keep track of what's going where, a table is
>> created.
>> Think of it like the table of contents of a book - the list tells
>> you something like: Chapter 6, The songs of Led Zeppelin, Page 58,
>> so you know that if you turn to page 58 you'll find the songs of Led
>> Zeppelin. If a previously used hard drive (or partition) is
>> formatted, what you're effectively doing is removing the table of
>> contents - the data (the songs of Led Zeppelin) is still there but
>> you don't know where it is and you don't know where to look for it
>> so you can't find it. Or to put it in the context of this topic,
>> your new OS would not see the old OS and therefore would not create
>> a windows.old folder. Personally, I would delete the partition, create a
>> new partition in
>> the now unpartitioned space, and format that - that is a clean
>> install.
so thanks for your input my friend )
Dave
R. C. White wrote:
> Hi, Dave.
>
>> When you go to the shop to buy a brand-new hard drive,...
>> ... It has to be prepared first and that is done by formatting (and
>> if you so wish, partitioning) it.
>
> Mostly correct, but...
>
> Both partitioning and formatting are required before a "drive" can be
> used by Windows. Partitioning is not optional, and must be done
> before formatting.
>
> We never format a physical HDD. We must first create at least one
> partition on the disk, even if that one partition includes the entire
> disk surface. Then we format the partition. When we say "drive", as
> in "Drive C:", we are usually referring to a partition, not the
> entire physical disk drive.
> (Yes, the physical disk must be "low-level formatted", but that is
> done at the factory and seldom - if ever these days - done in the
> field. What we do now - using Disk Management or a 3rd-party utility
> - is a high-level format.)
>
> RC
>
> "Dave" <dont@bother.com> wrote in message
> news:RtCdnfg2mOOmlDjWnZ2dnUVZ8ridnZ2d@bt.com...
>> Trev wrote:
>>> "relic" <relic211@cjb.net> wrote in message
>>> newsjtrjk.3i8.17.1@news.alt.net...
>>>>
>>>> "LSMFT" <boleyn7@aol.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:mrUon.27362$ao7.11589@newsfe21.iad...
>>>>> On 03/19/2010 079 PM, LD55ZRA wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> LSMFT wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How long do I need to keep this directory which was made after
>>>>>>> upgrading
>>>>>>> Vista to Windows 7.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As long as you want to keep it. There is no specific requirement
>>>>>> for it. It is there to enable you to revert back to Vista if you
>>>>>> decide Win7 isn't your type! I did a clean install so don't
>>>>>> have this folder on my system.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> hth
>>>>>
>>>>> I did a clean install also changing from 32 bit Vista to 64 bit
>>>>> WIndows 7 and it made Windows.old.
>>>>
>>>> What do you (and Trev) think a "Clean" install is?
>>>>
>>>> Had you, there's no way you'd have the Windows.Old folder.
>>>
>>> I let winds disc format my C drive and install Win 7 on it Part of
>>> that process is to create a Windows old folder if it find a
>>> Previous OS on the drive.
>>
>> But that's the point - if it was a clean install it would not find a
>> previous OS and so would not create a windows.old folder.
>>
>> When you go to the shop to buy a brand-new hard drive, you can't put
>> it in the computer and expect to start using it straight away
>> because it won't work. It has to be prepared first and that is done
>> by formatting (and if you so wish, partitioning) it. In effect what
>> you're doing is laying out a structure to it, telling it that this
>> area here can be used for this, that area over there can be used for
>> that, etc., etc. In order to keep track of what's going where, a table is
>> created.
>> Think of it like the table of contents of a book - the list tells
>> you something like: Chapter 6, The songs of Led Zeppelin, Page 58,
>> so you know that if you turn to page 58 you'll find the songs of Led
>> Zeppelin. If a previously used hard drive (or partition) is
>> formatted, what you're effectively doing is removing the table of
>> contents - the data (the songs of Led Zeppelin) is still there but
>> you don't know where it is and you don't know where to look for it
>> so you can't find it. Or to put it in the context of this topic,
>> your new OS would not see the old OS and therefore would not create
>> a windows.old folder. Personally, I would delete the partition, create a
>> new partition in
>> the now unpartitioned space, and format that - that is a clean
>> install.