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Discussion in 'Windows 7' started by LSMFT, Mar 19, 2010.

  1. LSMFT

    LSMFT Flightless Bird

    How long do I need to keep this directory which was made after upgrading
    Vista to Windows 7.





    --
    LSMFT

    Drive slower than the posted speed.............................
    And you too can become a fracking prick..............
     
  2. Dave

    Dave Flightless Bird

    "LSMFT" <boleyn7@aol.com> wrote in message
    news:RFTon.52066$2r7.27628@newsfe05.iad...
    > How long do I need to keep this directory which was made after upgrading
    > Vista to Windows 7.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > --
    > LSMFT
    >
    > Drive slower than the posted speed.............................
    > And you too can become a fracking prick..............


    Not a scientific answer, but I've read postings, some recently in this NG,
    where people delete it once they are satisfied their upgrade is operating
    fine and no problems.
    HTH,
    Dave
     
  3. LD55ZRA

    LD55ZRA Flightless Bird

    LSMFT wrote:
    >
    > How long do I need to keep this directory which was made after upgrading
    > Vista to Windows 7.
    >


    As long as you want to keep it. There is no specific requirement for
    it. It is there to enable you to revert back to Vista if you decide
    Win7 isn't your type! I did a clean install so don't have this folder
    on my system.

    hth
     
  4. Trev

    Trev Flightless Bird

    "LD55ZRA" <LD55ZRA@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:4BA40B30.E182A13F@discussions.microsoft.com...
    >
    >
    > LSMFT wrote:
    >>
    >> How long do I need to keep this directory which was made after upgrading
    >> Vista to Windows 7.
    >>

    >
    > As long as you want to keep it. There is no specific requirement for
    > it. It is there to enable you to revert back to Vista if you decide
    > Win7 isn't your type! I did a clean install so don't have this folder
    > on my system.
    >
    > hth


    I did a clean install having had XP on prior And It made the windows old
    folder. If i had know about this and not backed up Pst and other date files.
    I'm sure it would not have
     
  5. LSMFT

    LSMFT Flightless Bird

    On 03/19/2010 07:39 PM, LD55ZRA wrote:
    >
    >
    > LSMFT wrote:
    >>
    >> How long do I need to keep this directory which was made after upgrading
    >> Vista to Windows 7.
    >>

    >
    > As long as you want to keep it. There is no specific requirement for
    > it. It is there to enable you to revert back to Vista if you decide
    > Win7 isn't your type! I did a clean install so don't have this folder
    > on my system.
    >
    > hth


    I did a clean install also changing from 32 bit Vista to 64 bit WIndows
    7 and it made Windows.old.



    --
    LSFT

    Drive a little slower than the posted speed.......
    And you too can become a fracking prick.
     
  6. relic

    relic Flightless Bird

    "LSMFT" <boleyn7@aol.com> wrote in message
    news:mrUon.27362$ao7.11589@newsfe21.iad...
    > On 03/19/2010 07:39 PM, LD55ZRA wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >> LSMFT wrote:
    >>>
    >>> How long do I need to keep this directory which was made after upgrading
    >>> Vista to Windows 7.
    >>>

    >>
    >> As long as you want to keep it. There is no specific requirement for
    >> it. It is there to enable you to revert back to Vista if you decide
    >> Win7 isn't your type! I did a clean install so don't have this folder
    >> on my system.
    >>
    >> hth

    >
    > I did a clean install also changing from 32 bit Vista to 64 bit WIndows
    > 7 and it made Windows.old.


    What do you (and Trev) think a "Clean" install is?

    Had you, there's no way you'd have the Windows.Old folder.
     
  7. LSMFT

    LSMFT Flightless Bird

    relic wrote:
    >
    > "LSMFT" <boleyn7@aol.com> wrote in message
    > news:mrUon.27362$ao7.11589@newsfe21.iad...
    >> On 03/19/2010 07:39 PM, LD55ZRA wrote:
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> LSMFT wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>> How long do I need to keep this directory which was made after
    >>>> upgrading
    >>>> Vista to Windows 7.
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>> As long as you want to keep it. There is no specific requirement for
    >>> it. It is there to enable you to revert back to Vista if you decide
    >>> Win7 isn't your type! I did a clean install so don't have this folder
    >>> on my system.
    >>>
    >>> hth

    >>
    >> I did a clean install also changing from 32 bit Vista to 64 bit WIndows
    >> 7 and it made Windows.old.

    >
    > What do you (and Trev) think a "Clean" install is?
    >

    Microsoft's explanation of a clean install with an upgrade disk.
    It was on their web site.
    I know what you mean. A bald drive install.

    > Had you, there's no way you'd have the Windows.Old folder.



    --
    LSMFT

    Drive slower than the posted speed.............................
    And you too can become a fracking prick..............
     
  8. relic

    relic Flightless Bird

    "LSMFT" <boleyn7@aol.com> wrote in message
    news:DNWon.65923$gF5.8936@newsfe13.iad...
    > relic wrote:
    >>
    >> "LSMFT" <boleyn7@aol.com> wrote in message
    >> news:mrUon.27362$ao7.11589@newsfe21.iad...
    >>> On 03/19/2010 07:39 PM, LD55ZRA wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> LSMFT wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>> How long do I need to keep this directory which was made after
    >>>>> upgrading
    >>>>> Vista to Windows 7.
    >>>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> As long as you want to keep it. There is no specific requirement for
    >>>> it. It is there to enable you to revert back to Vista if you decide
    >>>> Win7 isn't your type! I did a clean install so don't have this folder
    >>>> on my system.
    >>>>
    >>>> hth
    >>>
    >>> I did a clean install also changing from 32 bit Vista to 64 bit WIndows
    >>> 7 and it made Windows.old.

    >>
    >> What do you (and Trev) think a "Clean" install is?
    >>

    > Microsoft's explanation of a clean install with an upgrade disk.
    > It was on their web site.
    > I know what you mean. A bald drive install.
    >
    >> Had you, there's no way you'd have the Windows.Old folder.


    To be sure I had a "Clean" install, I booted into the Recovery Console on my
    XP CD and did a full Format of my disk (W7 won't actually do a full format).
    After booting from my Windows 7 DVD I selected a Custom" install and let
    Windows 7 install itself. The 'trick' to do a full install with an upgrade
    disk is to NOT enter the DVD Key and to uncheck the box about activating the
    next time you're online. Instead, next time you've got it up and running,
    choose to activate and _then_ enter your key to activate it.
     
  9. Conor

    Conor Flightless Bird

    On 19/03/2010 23:21, LSMFT wrote:
    > How long do I need to keep this directory which was made after upgrading
    > Vista to Windows 7.
    >


    As long or as little as you want to.

    --
    Conor
    I'm not prejudiced. I hate everyone equally.
     
  10. Conor

    Conor Flightless Bird

    On 20/03/2010 03:21, relic wrote:

    > To be sure I had a "Clean" install, I booted into the Recovery Console
    > on my XP CD and did a full Format of my disk


    That is not a clean install. Any MBR viruses on the HDD would still be
    there. You cannot do a clean install from an installation disk.
    Formatting or even repartitioning a drive does not erase the data, it
    merely marks it as available for overwriting.

    --
    Conor
    I'm not prejudiced. I hate everyone equally.
     
  11. nooneyouknow

    nooneyouknow Flightless Bird

    "Conor" <conor@gmx.co.uk> wrote in message
    news:ho2htm$sem$4@news.eternal-september.org...
    > On 20/03/2010 03:21, relic wrote:
    >
    >> To be sure I had a "Clean" install, I booted into the Recovery Console
    >> on my XP CD and did a full Format of my disk

    >
    > That is not a clean install. Any MBR viruses on the HDD would still be
    > there. You cannot do a clean install from an installation disk. Formatting
    > or even repartitioning a drive does not erase the data, it merely marks it
    > as available for overwriting.


    Idiot.
     
  12. Conor

    Conor Flightless Bird

    On 20/03/2010 14:48, nooneyouknow wrote:
    >
    > "Conor" <conor@gmx.co.uk> wrote in message
    > news:ho2htm$sem$4@news.eternal-september.org...
    >> On 20/03/2010 03:21, relic wrote:
    >>
    >>> To be sure I had a "Clean" install, I booted into the Recovery Console
    >>> on my XP CD and did a full Format of my disk

    >>
    >> That is not a clean install. Any MBR viruses on the HDD would still be
    >> there. You cannot do a clean install from an installation disk.
    >> Formatting or even repartitioning a drive does not erase the data, it
    >> merely marks it as available for overwriting.

    >
    > Idiot.
    >

    Wow. What a rebuttal. Perhaps you'd like to include some facts to back
    up that?


    --
    Conor
    I'm not prejudiced. I hate everyone equally.
     
  13. relic

    relic Flightless Bird

    "Conor" <conor@gmx.co.uk> wrote in message
    news:ho2htm$sem$4@news.eternal-september.org...
    > On 20/03/2010 03:21, relic wrote:
    >
    >> To be sure I had a "Clean" install, I booted into the Recovery Console
    >> on my XP CD and did a full Format of my disk

    >
    > That is not a clean install. Any MBR viruses on the HDD would still be
    > there. You cannot do a clean install from an installation disk. Formatting
    > or even repartitioning a drive does not erase the data, it merely marks it
    > as available for overwriting.


    Whatever Conor, whatever,
    <shakes head>
     
  14. nooneyouknow

    nooneyouknow Flightless Bird

    "Conor" <conor@gmx.co.uk> wrote in message
    news:ho2oab$gsv$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    > On 20/03/2010 14:48, nooneyouknow wrote:
    >>
    >> "Conor" <conor@gmx.co.uk> wrote in message
    >> news:ho2htm$sem$4@news.eternal-september.org...
    >>> On 20/03/2010 03:21, relic wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> To be sure I had a "Clean" install, I booted into the Recovery Console
    >>>> on my XP CD and did a full Format of my disk
    >>>
    >>> That is not a clean install. Any MBR viruses on the HDD would still be
    >>> there. You cannot do a clean install from an installation disk.
    >>> Formatting or even repartitioning a drive does not erase the data, it
    >>> merely marks it as available for overwriting.

    >>
    >> Idiot.
    >>

    > Wow. What a rebuttal. Perhaps you'd like to include some facts to back up
    > that?


    One only needs to look at your posting history.
     
  15. Trev

    Trev Flightless Bird

    "relic" <relic211@cjb.net> wrote in message
    news:3jtrjk.3i8.17.1@news.alt.net...
    >
    > "LSMFT" <boleyn7@aol.com> wrote in message
    > news:mrUon.27362$ao7.11589@newsfe21.iad...
    >> On 03/19/2010 07:39 PM, LD55ZRA wrote:
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> LSMFT wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>> How long do I need to keep this directory which was made after
    >>>> upgrading
    >>>> Vista to Windows 7.
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>> As long as you want to keep it. There is no specific requirement for
    >>> it. It is there to enable you to revert back to Vista if you decide
    >>> Win7 isn't your type! I did a clean install so don't have this folder
    >>> on my system.
    >>>
    >>> hth

    >>
    >> I did a clean install also changing from 32 bit Vista to 64 bit WIndows
    >> 7 and it made Windows.old.

    >
    > What do you (and Trev) think a "Clean" install is?
    >
    > Had you, there's no way you'd have the Windows.Old folder.


    I let winds disc format my C drive and install Win 7 on it Part of that
    process is to create a Windows old folder if it find a Previous OS on the
    drive.
     
  16. Dave

    Dave Flightless Bird

    Trev wrote:
    > "relic" <relic211@cjb.net> wrote in message
    > news:3jtrjk.3i8.17.1@news.alt.net...
    >>
    >> "LSMFT" <boleyn7@aol.com> wrote in message
    >> news:mrUon.27362$ao7.11589@newsfe21.iad...
    >>> On 03/19/2010 07:39 PM, LD55ZRA wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> LSMFT wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>> How long do I need to keep this directory which was made after
    >>>>> upgrading
    >>>>> Vista to Windows 7.
    >>>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> As long as you want to keep it. There is no specific requirement
    >>>> for it. It is there to enable you to revert back to Vista if you
    >>>> decide Win7 isn't your type! I did a clean install so don't
    >>>> have this folder on my system.
    >>>>
    >>>> hth
    >>>
    >>> I did a clean install also changing from 32 bit Vista to 64 bit
    >>> WIndows 7 and it made Windows.old.

    >>
    >> What do you (and Trev) think a "Clean" install is?
    >>
    >> Had you, there's no way you'd have the Windows.Old folder.

    >
    > I let winds disc format my C drive and install Win 7 on it Part of
    > that process is to create a Windows old folder if it find a Previous OS on
    > the drive.


    But that's the point - if it was a clean install it would not find a
    previous OS and so would not create a windows.old folder.

    When you go to the shop to buy a brand-new hard drive, you can't put it in
    the computer and expect to start using it straight away because it won't
    work. It has to be prepared first and that is done by formatting (and if you
    so wish, partitioning) it. In effect what you're doing is laying out a
    structure to it, telling it that this area here can be used for this, that
    area over there can be used for that, etc., etc.

    In order to keep track of what's going where, a table is created. Think of
    it like the table of contents of a book - the list tells you something like:
    Chapter 6, The songs of Led Zeppelin, Page 58, so you know that if you turn
    to page 58 you'll find the songs of Led Zeppelin. If a previously used hard
    drive (or partition) is formatted, what you're effectively doing is removing
    the table of contents - the data (the songs of Led Zeppelin) is still there
    but you don't know where it is and you don't know where to look for it so
    you can't find it. Or to put it in the context of this topic, your new OS
    would not see the old OS and therefore would not create a windows.old
    folder.

    Personally, I would delete the partition, create a new partition in the now
    unpartitioned space, and format that - that is a clean install.
     
  17. LD55ZRA

    LD55ZRA Flightless Bird

    "Conor" <conor@gmx.co.uk> wrote in message
    news:ho2htm$sem$4@news.eternal-september.org...
    > You cannot do a clean install from an installation disk. Formatting or
    > even repartitioning a drive does not erase the data, it merely marks it as
    > available for overwriting.



    Although this is true, but chances of any viruses of malware becoming active
    is almost next to zero. Formatting a HD is good enough for majority of
    people and it will do a GENUINE clean install of the operating system.

    hth
     
  18. LD55ZRA

    LD55ZRA Flightless Bird

    "nooneyouknow" <nooneyouknow@spam.invalid> wrote in message
    news:4ba4f0bd$0$9190$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...

    > One only needs to look at your posting history.



    Not as good idea because through history mankind haven't learnt anything
    otherwise we would all stop fighting and instead work cooperatively to
    improve our lifestyles.

    The amount of money spent bombing Iraq and Afghanistan would have been more
    than sufficient to feed the needy -- this assumes everybody is serious about
    this issue and genuinely wants to help the poor people on this planet!.

    hth
     
  19. R. C. White

    R. C. White Flightless Bird

    Hi, Dave.

    > When you go to the shop to buy a brand-new hard drive,...
    > ... It has to be prepared first and that is done by formatting (and if you
    > so wish, partitioning) it.


    Mostly correct, but...

    Both partitioning and formatting are required before a "drive" can be used
    by Windows. Partitioning is not optional, and must be done before
    formatting.

    We never format a physical HDD. We must first create at least one partition
    on the disk, even if that one partition includes the entire disk surface.
    Then we format the partition. When we say "drive", as in "Drive C:", we are
    usually referring to a partition, not the entire physical disk drive.

    (Yes, the physical disk must be "low-level formatted", but that is done at
    the factory and seldom - if ever these days - done in the field. What we do
    now - using Disk Management or a 3rd-party utility - is a high-level
    format.)

    RC
    --
    R. C. White, CPA
    San Marcos, TX
    rc@grandecom.net
    Microsoft Windows MVP
    Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8089.0726) in Win7 Ultimate x64

    "Dave" <dont@bother.com> wrote in message
    news:RtCdnfg2mOOmlDjWnZ2dnUVZ8ridnZ2d@bt.com...
    > Trev wrote:
    >> "relic" <relic211@cjb.net> wrote in message
    >> news:3jtrjk.3i8.17.1@news.alt.net...
    >>>
    >>> "LSMFT" <boleyn7@aol.com> wrote in message
    >>> news:mrUon.27362$ao7.11589@newsfe21.iad...
    >>>> On 03/19/2010 07:39 PM, LD55ZRA wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> LSMFT wrote:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> How long do I need to keep this directory which was made after
    >>>>>> upgrading
    >>>>>> Vista to Windows 7.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> As long as you want to keep it. There is no specific requirement
    >>>>> for it. It is there to enable you to revert back to Vista if you
    >>>>> decide Win7 isn't your type! I did a clean install so don't
    >>>>> have this folder on my system.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> hth
    >>>>
    >>>> I did a clean install also changing from 32 bit Vista to 64 bit
    >>>> WIndows 7 and it made Windows.old.
    >>>
    >>> What do you (and Trev) think a "Clean" install is?
    >>>
    >>> Had you, there's no way you'd have the Windows.Old folder.

    >>
    >> I let winds disc format my C drive and install Win 7 on it Part of
    >> that process is to create a Windows old folder if it find a Previous OS
    >> on the drive.

    >
    > But that's the point - if it was a clean install it would not find a
    > previous OS and so would not create a windows.old folder.
    >
    > When you go to the shop to buy a brand-new hard drive, you can't put it in
    > the computer and expect to start using it straight away because it won't
    > work. It has to be prepared first and that is done by formatting (and if
    > you so wish, partitioning) it. In effect what you're doing is laying out a
    > structure to it, telling it that this area here can be used for this, that
    > area over there can be used for that, etc., etc.
    >
    > In order to keep track of what's going where, a table is created. Think of
    > it like the table of contents of a book - the list tells you something
    > like: Chapter 6, The songs of Led Zeppelin, Page 58, so you know that if
    > you turn to page 58 you'll find the songs of Led Zeppelin. If a previously
    > used hard drive (or partition) is formatted, what you're effectively doing
    > is removing the table of contents - the data (the songs of Led Zeppelin)
    > is still there but you don't know where it is and you don't know where to
    > look for it so you can't find it. Or to put it in the context of this
    > topic, your new OS would not see the old OS and therefore would not create
    > a windows.old folder.
    >
    > Personally, I would delete the partition, create a new partition in the
    > now unpartitioned space, and format that - that is a clean install.
     
  20. nooneyouknow

    nooneyouknow Flightless Bird

    "LD55ZRA" <LD55ZRA@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:ho3dja$u19$1@speranza.aioe.org...
    >
    > "nooneyouknow" <nooneyouknow@spam.invalid> wrote in message
    > news:4ba4f0bd$0$9190$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
    >
    >> One only needs to look at your posting history.

    >
    >
    > Not as good idea because through history mankind haven't learnt anything
    > otherwise we would all stop fighting and instead work cooperatively to
    > improve our lifestyles.
    >
    > The amount of money spent bombing Iraq and Afghanistan would have been
    > more than sufficient to feed the needy -- this assumes everybody is
    > serious about this issue and genuinely wants to help the poor people on
    > this planet!.


    Bad assumption.
     

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