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Win32 or Win64

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johnbee

Flightless Bird
"Frank" <fb@tbb.moz> wrote in message news:4bec641b@news.x-privat.org...
> On 5/13/2010 1:35 PM, johnbee wrote:
>>
>> "Jackie" <Jackie@an.on> wrote in message
>> news:4beaa471$0$8052$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
>>> Or rather call it "Office 14 and ProductXX 1".
>>
>> Just for information: I do not do much word processing, but my wife
>> does. This is the first PC I have had with Office on it, and I am not
>> much impressed, neither is Pat, and we would far rather install our old
>> Lotus Wordpro. Trouble is, it won't work under Windows 7. No doubt the
>> Microsoft screw everybody else's software it is our Operating System
>> policy. They have cut some fonts as well, though they don't cost a lot
>> each.
>
> What makes you think it's Microsoft's fault that Lotus Wordpro won't run
> on Windows 7?

Operating systems ought to be backwards compatible, to a certain extent.
 
J

johnbee

Flightless Bird
"Jackie" <Jackie@an.on> wrote in message
news:4bec6c07$0$18339$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
> On 5/13/2010 22:35, johnbee wrote:
>>
>> Just for information: I do not do much word processing, but my wife
>> does. This is the first PC I have had with Office on it, and I am not
>> much impressed, neither is Pat, and we would far rather install our old
>> Lotus Wordpro. Trouble is, it won't work under Windows 7. No doubt the
>> Microsoft screw everybody else's software it is our Operating System
>> policy. They have cut some fonts as well, though they don't cost a lot
>> each.
>
> Have you tried to install and/or run it with Windows Vista or XP
> compatibility mode? You can do it like this:
> Right-click on it, choose Properties->Compatibility and there you have the
> option.
>
> If you have Windows 7 Professional, Ultimate or Enterprise, you can
> download and install "Windows XP Mode". This allows you to run older
> applications that does not run on Windows 7, via Virtual PC, but right on
> your desktop.
> http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/products/features/windows-xp-mode

Thanks for the suggestions. I have tried all ways I can under Win 7, but
not in XP mode, which presumably would work. If you recall I mentioned that
it is my wife who uses a word processor, and who told me about the missing
fonts, and I will not expect her to run XP mode.
 
J

johnbee

Flightless Bird
"Tim Slattery" <Slattery_T@bls.gov> wrote in message
news:flhqu5hsbgn0tn8nm71trrpf3lh79377g2@4ax.com...
> "johnbee" <johnbrockbank@com.invalid> wrote:
>
>>I got 32 bit (Pro version so XP emulation was available as a backup)
>>because
>>I understood that the 64 bit version will not run 16 bit applications. I
>>do
>>not know whether that is true,
>
> It's true, but you can run them in a VM or using something like DOSBox
> (www.dosbox.com)
>
> --
> Tim Slattery
> Slattery_T@bls.gov
> http://members.cox.net/slatteryt

Ah, that is quite good news - though bound to come I suppose. When the PC
was delivered I looked at the Dosbox web page and it at that time had no
mention of Windows 7. Under XP I couldn't get things to work in full screen
mode but otherwise it was fine.
 
F

Frank

Flightless Bird
On 5/14/2010 12:49 PM, johnbee wrote:
>
> "Frank" <fb@tbb.moz> wrote in message news:4bec641b@news.x-privat.org...
>> On 5/13/2010 1:35 PM, johnbee wrote:
>>>
>>> "Jackie" <Jackie@an.on> wrote in message
>>> news:4beaa471$0$8052$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
>>>> Or rather call it "Office 14 and ProductXX 1".
>>>
>>> Just for information: I do not do much word processing, but my wife
>>> does. This is the first PC I have had with Office on it, and I am not
>>> much impressed, neither is Pat, and we would far rather install our old
>>> Lotus Wordpro. Trouble is, it won't work under Windows 7. No doubt the
>>> Microsoft screw everybody else's software it is our Operating System
>>> policy. They have cut some fonts as well, though they don't cost a lot
>>> each.
>>
>> What makes you think it's Microsoft's fault that Lotus Wordpro won't
>> run on Windows 7?
>
> Operating systems ought to be backwards compatible, to a certain extent.

They are...to a certain extent. But it is really up to the application
to keep up with the OS.
 
J

johnbee

Flightless Bird
"Ken Blake" <kblake@this.is.invalid.com> wrote in message
news:lngpu5d1o0kamu30vmip5ablc9klp799oj@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 13 May 2010 19:39:17 -0400, Dennis Pack
> <dennispack@hotmail.nospam.com> wrote:
>
>
>> If my memory is correct the a drive was for the 3.5" floppy and
>> the b drive was for the 5.25" floppy. Have a great day.
>
>
>
> No.
>
> A: and B: have always been for floppies, regardless of size. In their
> earliest days, PCs only had 5.25" floppy drives and both A: and B:
> were used for them.
>
> After the 3.5" floppy drives became common, you could still have one
> floppy drive or two floppy drives. If you had one floppy drive, it
> would be A: and could be either 5.25" or 3.5". If you had two floppy
> drives, they could both be either 3.5" or 5.25". Or there could be one
> of each, with either the 5.25" or 3.5" using A: and the other size
> using B:
> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003

I still have a five and a quarter external drive that I brought home from
the office when they became obsolete and we had a giveaway - I was the only
one who wanted it. You need both hands to pick it up.
 
J

Jackie

Flightless Bird
On 5/14/2010 21:55, johnbee wrote:
> Thanks for the suggestions. I have tried all ways I can under Win 7, but
> not in XP mode, which presumably would work. If you recall I mentioned
> that it is my wife who uses a word processor, and who told me about the
> missing fonts, and I will not expect her to run XP mode.

XP mode doesn't change the desktop and the application will appear on
just like any other application but it takes a little bit effort to set
it up the first time.
Here's a video demonstration on using it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNFczLYBtrA
I haven't tried it myself just yet but I have installed it and I will
test it out when I get the chance later.

Do you get any error messages when you try to run the word processor
(and what do they say)?
 
C

Chris Sidener

Flightless Bird
"johnbee" <johnbrockbank@com.invalid> wrote in message
news:hsk9fn$4b8$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>
> "Frank" <fb@tbb.moz> wrote in message news:4bec641b@news.x-privat.org...
>> On 5/13/2010 1:35 PM, johnbee wrote:
>>>
>>> "Jackie" <Jackie@an.on> wrote in message
>>> news:4beaa471$0$8052$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
>>>> Or rather call it "Office 14 and ProductXX 1".
>>>
>>> Just for information: I do not do much word processing, but my wife
>>> does. This is the first PC I have had with Office on it, and I am not
>>> much impressed, neither is Pat, and we would far rather install our old
>>> Lotus Wordpro. Trouble is, it won't work under Windows 7. No doubt the
>>> Microsoft screw everybody else's software it is our Operating System
>>> policy. They have cut some fonts as well, though they don't cost a lot
>>> each.
>>
>> What makes you think it's Microsoft's fault that Lotus Wordpro won't run
>> on Windows 7?
>
> Operating systems ought to be backwards compatible, to a certain extent.

Heres a thread from people who have SmartSuite working with Win 7...
http://www-10.lotus.com/ldd/ssforum...92174060de97bbd7052576ba006cb888?OpenDocument

HTH

Chris
 
C

Char Jackson

Flightless Bird
On Fri, 14 May 2010 20:49:17 +0100, "johnbee"
<johnbrockbank@com.invalid> wrote:

>
>"Frank" <fb@tbb.moz> wrote in message news:4bec641b@news.x-privat.org...
>> On 5/13/2010 1:35 PM, johnbee wrote:
>>>
>>> "Jackie" <Jackie@an.on> wrote in message
>>> news:4beaa471$0$8052$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
>>>> Or rather call it "Office 14 and ProductXX 1".
>>>
>>> Just for information: I do not do much word processing, but my wife
>>> does. This is the first PC I have had with Office on it, and I am not
>>> much impressed, neither is Pat, and we would far rather install our old
>>> Lotus Wordpro. Trouble is, it won't work under Windows 7. No doubt the
>>> Microsoft screw everybody else's software it is our Operating System
>>> policy. They have cut some fonts as well, though they don't cost a lot
>>> each.
>>
>> What makes you think it's Microsoft's fault that Lotus Wordpro won't run
>> on Windows 7?
>
>Operating systems ought to be backwards compatible, to a certain extent.

They are, to a certain extent. :)
 
J

johnbee

Flightless Bird
"Chris Sidener" <chris.sidener@vizzy.net> wrote in message
news:hskcgi$85g$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>
> "johnbee" <johnbrockbank@com.invalid> wrote in message
> news:hsk9fn$4b8$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>
>> "Frank" <fb@tbb.moz> wrote in message news:4bec641b@news.x-privat.org...
>>> On 5/13/2010 1:35 PM, johnbee wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Jackie" <Jackie@an.on> wrote in message
>>>> news:4beaa471$0$8052$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
>>>>> Or rather call it "Office 14 and ProductXX 1".
>>>>
>>>> Just for information: I do not do much word processing, but my wife
>>>> does. This is the first PC I have had with Office on it, and I am not
>>>> much impressed, neither is Pat, and we would far rather install our old
>>>> Lotus Wordpro. Trouble is, it won't work under Windows 7. No doubt the
>>>> Microsoft screw everybody else's software it is our Operating System
>>>> policy. They have cut some fonts as well, though they don't cost a lot
>>>> each.
>>>
>>> What makes you think it's Microsoft's fault that Lotus Wordpro won't run
>>> on Windows 7?
>>
>> Operating systems ought to be backwards compatible, to a certain extent.
>
> Heres a thread from people who have SmartSuite working with Win 7...
> http://www-10.lotus.com/ldd/ssforum...92174060de97bbd7052576ba006cb888?OpenDocument
>
> HTH
>
> Chris
>

Nice one Sir. Thanks. I will give it a try.
 
J

johnbee

Flightless Bird
"Jackie" <Jackie@an.on> wrote in message
news:4bedaf6b$0$21118$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
> On 5/14/2010 21:55, johnbee wrote:
>> Thanks for the suggestions. I have tried all ways I can under Win 7, but
>> not in XP mode, which presumably would work. If you recall I mentioned
>> that it is my wife who uses a word processor, and who told me about the
>> missing fonts, and I will not expect her to run XP mode.
>
> XP mode doesn't change the desktop and the application will appear on just
> like any other application but it takes a little bit effort to set it up
> the first time.
> Here's a video demonstration on using it:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNFczLYBtrA
> I haven't tried it myself just yet but I have installed it and I will test
> it out when I get the chance later.
>
> Do you get any error messages when you try to run the word processor (and
> what do they say)?

Well I must say that XP mode most certainly changes the desktop a whole lot.
The files you have to download are quite big - OK (ish) for me as I have a
cable connection, but one would only want to have to do it once over a phone
line.
 
J

Jackie

Flightless Bird
On 5/18/2010 21:14, johnbee wrote:
>
> Well I must say that XP mode most certainly changes the desktop a whole
> lot. The files you have to download are quite big - OK (ish) for me as I
> have a cable connection, but one would only want to have to do it once
> over a phone line.

Are you sure it changes the existing desktop?
It should not, and it does not change for me.
The file is large because it's basically complete copy of Windows XP. It
is separate from the host OS but still somewhat integrated.
I understand it is inconvenient for you if your internet connection is
not that fast.
I hope you can get it working with Windows 7 somehow.
 
W

w7pro

Flightless Bird
I saw your thread and thought that I might be able to provide some resources on 32-bit or 64-bit sytems. If you tend to have a lot of programs open simultaneously or need to switch frequently between programs—or if you just want to be sure your PC can take advantage of the larger amounts of memory available today—64-bit is a great choice. If you run only one or two programs at a time or have older hardware and software that isn't supported by a 64-bit PC, a 32-bit system is a good choice. To see if your PC is a 32-bit or 64-bit system, download and run the Windows 7 Upgrade Advisor: bit.ly/WinUpgradeAdv. A FAQ page with answers to some common questions about the 32-bit and 64-bit versions of Windows is available here: bit.ly/32and64bit. The recommended memory requirements for Windows 7 are a minimum of 1 GB of RAM for 32-bit versions of the operating system and a minimum of 2 GB for 64-bit versions. If you plan on taking advantage of the Windows XP Mode feature, you should bump those requirements up to include an additional 1 GB of RAM. Also, take some time to review the system requirements here: bit.ly/Win7SystemReqs
 
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