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Alias

Flightless Bird
On 05/14/2010 07:48 PM, MJMIII wrote:
>
> "Jackie" <Jackie@an.on> wrote in message
> news:4bed8007$0$21027$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
>> On 5/14/2010 18:10, Heywood Jablowme wrote:
>>
>>> Who the hell wants to run Windows applications in Ubuntu and who the

>
> <Snip useless conversation>
>
> Jackie, you've responded to every troll in this newsgroup, subjecting
> everyone who has them plonked, to have to read their garbage.
> Congratulations! Now you can join them in the plonk box. The only thing
> worse than a troll is an asshole who feeds them.


And you're the asshole you're talking about according to YOUR definition.

--

Alias
 
R

ray

Flightless Bird
On Fri, 14 May 2010 10:31:14 -0700, Frank wrote:

> On 5/14/2010 9:40 AM, Alias wrote:
>> ray wrote:
>>> On Fri, 14 May 2010 09:10:18 -0700, Heywood Jablowme wrote:
>>>
>>>> "ray"<ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:85576fFbucU41@mid.individual.net...
>>>>> On Thu, 13 May 2010 17:53:03 -0700, Frank wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/13/2010 5:16 PM, bill wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thu, 13 May 2010 00:02:45 +0000, ray wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 12 May 2010 19:16:44 -0600, no_one wrote:
>>>>>>> snip
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you find you need assistance, which you most likely won't,
>>>>>>>> just holler. I'm partial to Debian myself.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks Ray. I did the deed any this comes to you from, dare I say
>>>>>>> it? Ubuntu. So far all is well. Even found the software to run my
>>>>>>> weather station. Got a lot of work ahead to get it all sorted out
>>>>>>> and running my way.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lets us know how well Quattro Pro is running on your new os.
>>>>>
>>>>> It should run perfectly well via WINE - but OpenOffice is included,
>>>>> so why sweat?
>>>>
>>>> Who the hell wants to run Windows applications in Ubuntu and who the
>>>> hell would want to run them under WHINE? If you need Microsoft
>>>> applications, and most people want MS apps, then use Windows. No need
>>>> to use that INFERIOR Ubuntu that nobody wants.
>>>
>>> I note that you did NOT indicate that most people NEED ms apps - only
>>> that they WANT them. Actually, that's not quite correct either. Most
>>> folks want an app - they could not care less if it's an MS app or not
>>> - the NEED functionality - and mostly they don't KNOW about anything
>>> else - that's all. So instead of running that INFERIOR Ubuntu, they
>>> run that INFERIOR MS - big friggin' deal. No modern OS is what it
>>> should be, but, IMHO, Linux comes a lot closer than MS.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Ubuntu was written by geeks for geeks who can't get laid.
>>>
>>> Such an obviously ignorant statement requires no comment.

>>
>> Here's what most home users use a computer for:
>>
>> 1. Email
>>
>> 2. Surfing the web
>>
>> 3. IMing
>>
>> 4. Photos.
>>
>> 5. Downloading audio and video
>>
>> 6. Playing music or watching a video
>>
>> And that's about it. Ubuntu will fit their needs and wants perfectly.
>>

> Try reading the OP's comment and you'll see that none of the above was
> mentioned by the him.
> He wants to run Corel's Quattro Pro which is a spread sheet app like
> Excel.


As I understand it, it's not much like excel at all - it works.
 
H

Heywood Jablowme

Flightless Bird
"ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
news:855pn5FbucU49@mid.individual.net...
> On Fri, 14 May 2010 10:31:14 -0700, Frank wrote:
>
>> On 5/14/2010 9:40 AM, Alias wrote:
>>> ray wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 14 May 2010 09:10:18 -0700, Heywood Jablowme wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "ray"<ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:85576fFbucU41@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>> On Thu, 13 May 2010 17:53:03 -0700, Frank wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5/13/2010 5:16 PM, bill wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 13 May 2010 00:02:45 +0000, ray wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 12 May 2010 19:16:44 -0600, no_one wrote:
>>>>>>>> snip
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you find you need assistance, which you most likely won't,
>>>>>>>>> just holler. I'm partial to Debian myself.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks Ray. I did the deed any this comes to you from, dare I say
>>>>>>>> it? Ubuntu. So far all is well. Even found the software to run my
>>>>>>>> weather station. Got a lot of work ahead to get it all sorted out
>>>>>>>> and running my way.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lets us know how well Quattro Pro is running on your new os.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It should run perfectly well via WINE - but OpenOffice is included,
>>>>>> so why sweat?
>>>>>
>>>>> Who the hell wants to run Windows applications in Ubuntu and who the
>>>>> hell would want to run them under WHINE? If you need Microsoft
>>>>> applications, and most people want MS apps, then use Windows. No need
>>>>> to use that INFERIOR Ubuntu that nobody wants.
>>>>
>>>> I note that you did NOT indicate that most people NEED ms apps - only
>>>> that they WANT them. Actually, that's not quite correct either. Most
>>>> folks want an app - they could not care less if it's an MS app or not
>>>> - the NEED functionality - and mostly they don't KNOW about anything
>>>> else - that's all. So instead of running that INFERIOR Ubuntu, they
>>>> run that INFERIOR MS - big friggin' deal. No modern OS is what it
>>>> should be, but, IMHO, Linux comes a lot closer than MS.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Ubuntu was written by geeks for geeks who can't get laid.
>>>>
>>>> Such an obviously ignorant statement requires no comment.
>>>
>>> Here's what most home users use a computer for:
>>>
>>> 1. Email
>>>
>>> 2. Surfing the web
>>>
>>> 3. IMing
>>>
>>> 4. Photos.
>>>
>>> 5. Downloading audio and video
>>>
>>> 6. Playing music or watching a video
>>>
>>> And that's about it. Ubuntu will fit their needs and wants perfectly.
>>>

>> Try reading the OP's comment and you'll see that none of the above was
>> mentioned by the him.
>> He wants to run Corel's Quattro Pro which is a spread sheet app like
>> Excel.

>
> As I understand it, it's not much like excel at all - it works.


So you can't work excel? In that case, I would suggest staying away from
all spread sheet apps. Way over your head.
 
H

Heywood Jablowme

Flightless Bird
"Alias" <aka@hewhoismasked&anonymous.com> wrote in message
news:hsk2mn$9q6$2@news.eternal-september.org...
> On 05/14/2010 07:48 PM, MJMIII wrote:
>>
>> "Jackie" <Jackie@an.on> wrote in message
>> news:4bed8007$0$21027$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
>>> On 5/14/2010 18:10, Heywood Jablowme wrote:
>>>
>>>> Who the hell wants to run Windows applications in Ubuntu and who the

>>
>> <Snip useless conversation>
>>
>> Jackie, you've responded to every troll in this newsgroup, subjecting
>> everyone who has them plonked, to have to read their garbage.
>> Congratulations! Now you can join them in the plonk box. The only thing
>> worse than a troll is an asshole who feeds them.

>
> And you're the asshole you're talking about according to YOUR definition.
>
> --
>
> Alias


And you're the asshole who tries to shove Ubuntu down our throats in the
Win7 forum! Maybe you are lost and confused.
 
R

ray

Flightless Bird
On Fri, 14 May 2010 13:28:42 -0700, Heywood Jablowme wrote:

> "ray" <ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
> news:855pn5FbucU49@mid.individual.net...
>> On Fri, 14 May 2010 10:31:14 -0700, Frank wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/14/2010 9:40 AM, Alias wrote:
>>>> ray wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 14 May 2010 09:10:18 -0700, Heywood Jablowme wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "ray"<ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:85576fFbucU41@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>>> On Thu, 13 May 2010 17:53:03 -0700, Frank wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 5/13/2010 5:16 PM, bill wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 13 May 2010 00:02:45 +0000, ray wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 12 May 2010 19:16:44 -0600, no_one wrote:
>>>>>>>>> snip
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If you find you need assistance, which you most likely won't,
>>>>>>>>>> just holler. I'm partial to Debian myself.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks Ray. I did the deed any this comes to you from, dare I
>>>>>>>>> say it? Ubuntu. So far all is well. Even found the software to
>>>>>>>>> run my weather station. Got a lot of work ahead to get it all
>>>>>>>>> sorted out and running my way.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Lets us know how well Quattro Pro is running on your new os.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It should run perfectly well via WINE - but OpenOffice is
>>>>>>> included, so why sweat?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Who the hell wants to run Windows applications in Ubuntu and who
>>>>>> the hell would want to run them under WHINE? If you need Microsoft
>>>>>> applications, and most people want MS apps, then use Windows. No
>>>>>> need to use that INFERIOR Ubuntu that nobody wants.
>>>>>
>>>>> I note that you did NOT indicate that most people NEED ms apps -
>>>>> only that they WANT them. Actually, that's not quite correct either.
>>>>> Most folks want an app - they could not care less if it's an MS app
>>>>> or not - the NEED functionality - and mostly they don't KNOW about
>>>>> anything else - that's all. So instead of running that INFERIOR
>>>>> Ubuntu, they run that INFERIOR MS - big friggin' deal. No modern OS
>>>>> is what it should be, but, IMHO, Linux comes a lot closer than MS.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ubuntu was written by geeks for geeks who can't get laid.
>>>>>
>>>>> Such an obviously ignorant statement requires no comment.
>>>>
>>>> Here's what most home users use a computer for:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Email
>>>>
>>>> 2. Surfing the web
>>>>
>>>> 3. IMing
>>>>
>>>> 4. Photos.
>>>>
>>>> 5. Downloading audio and video
>>>>
>>>> 6. Playing music or watching a video
>>>>
>>>> And that's about it. Ubuntu will fit their needs and wants perfectly.
>>>>
>>> Try reading the OP's comment and you'll see that none of the above was
>>> mentioned by the him.
>>> He wants to run Corel's Quattro Pro which is a spread sheet app like
>>> Excel.

>>
>> As I understand it, it's not much like excel at all - it works.

>
> So you can't work excel? In that case, I would suggest staying away
> from all spread sheet apps. Way over your head.


As I understand it, excel still has some errors that have been there for
10 years or so.
 
F

Frank

Flightless Bird
On 5/14/2010 2:03 PM, ray wrote:
> On Fri, 14 May 2010 13:28:42 -0700, Heywood Jablowme wrote:
>
>> "ray"<ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
>> news:855pn5FbucU49@mid.individual.net...
>>> On Fri, 14 May 2010 10:31:14 -0700, Frank wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/14/2010 9:40 AM, Alias wrote:
>>>>> ray wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 14 May 2010 09:10:18 -0700, Heywood Jablowme wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "ray"<ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:85576fFbucU41@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 13 May 2010 17:53:03 -0700, Frank wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 5/13/2010 5:16 PM, bill wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 13 May 2010 00:02:45 +0000, ray wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 12 May 2010 19:16:44 -0600, no_one wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> snip
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If you find you need assistance, which you most likely won't,
>>>>>>>>>>> just holler. I'm partial to Debian myself.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Ray. I did the deed any this comes to you from, dare I
>>>>>>>>>> say it? Ubuntu. So far all is well. Even found the software to
>>>>>>>>>> run my weather station. Got a lot of work ahead to get it all
>>>>>>>>>> sorted out and running my way.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Lets us know how well Quattro Pro is running on your new os.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It should run perfectly well via WINE - but OpenOffice is
>>>>>>>> included, so why sweat?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Who the hell wants to run Windows applications in Ubuntu and who
>>>>>>> the hell would want to run them under WHINE? If you need Microsoft
>>>>>>> applications, and most people want MS apps, then use Windows. No
>>>>>>> need to use that INFERIOR Ubuntu that nobody wants.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I note that you did NOT indicate that most people NEED ms apps -
>>>>>> only that they WANT them. Actually, that's not quite correct either.
>>>>>> Most folks want an app - they could not care less if it's an MS app
>>>>>> or not - the NEED functionality - and mostly they don't KNOW about
>>>>>> anything else - that's all. So instead of running that INFERIOR
>>>>>> Ubuntu, they run that INFERIOR MS - big friggin' deal. No modern OS
>>>>>> is what it should be, but, IMHO, Linux comes a lot closer than MS.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ubuntu was written by geeks for geeks who can't get laid.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Such an obviously ignorant statement requires no comment.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's what most home users use a computer for:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Email
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. Surfing the web
>>>>>
>>>>> 3. IMing
>>>>>
>>>>> 4. Photos.
>>>>>
>>>>> 5. Downloading audio and video
>>>>>
>>>>> 6. Playing music or watching a video
>>>>>
>>>>> And that's about it. Ubuntu will fit their needs and wants perfectly.
>>>>>
>>>> Try reading the OP's comment and you'll see that none of the above was
>>>> mentioned by the him.
>>>> He wants to run Corel's Quattro Pro which is a spread sheet app like
>>>> Excel.
>>>
>>> As I understand it, it's not much like excel at all - it works.

>>
>> So you can't work excel? In that case, I would suggest staying away
>> from all spread sheet apps. Way over your head.

>
> As I understand it, excel still has some errors that have been there for
> 10 years or so.


So you really don't understand it all.
 
F

Frank

Flightless Bird
On 5/14/2010 1:21 PM, ray wrote:
> On Fri, 14 May 2010 10:31:14 -0700, Frank wrote:
>
>> On 5/14/2010 9:40 AM, Alias wrote:
>>> ray wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 14 May 2010 09:10:18 -0700, Heywood Jablowme wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "ray"<ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:85576fFbucU41@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>> On Thu, 13 May 2010 17:53:03 -0700, Frank wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5/13/2010 5:16 PM, bill wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 13 May 2010 00:02:45 +0000, ray wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 12 May 2010 19:16:44 -0600, no_one wrote:
>>>>>>>> snip
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you find you need assistance, which you most likely won't,
>>>>>>>>> just holler. I'm partial to Debian myself.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks Ray. I did the deed any this comes to you from, dare I say
>>>>>>>> it? Ubuntu. So far all is well. Even found the software to run my
>>>>>>>> weather station. Got a lot of work ahead to get it all sorted out
>>>>>>>> and running my way.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lets us know how well Quattro Pro is running on your new os.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It should run perfectly well via WINE - but OpenOffice is included,
>>>>>> so why sweat?
>>>>>
>>>>> Who the hell wants to run Windows applications in Ubuntu and who the
>>>>> hell would want to run them under WHINE? If you need Microsoft
>>>>> applications, and most people want MS apps, then use Windows. No need
>>>>> to use that INFERIOR Ubuntu that nobody wants.
>>>>
>>>> I note that you did NOT indicate that most people NEED ms apps - only
>>>> that they WANT them. Actually, that's not quite correct either. Most
>>>> folks want an app - they could not care less if it's an MS app or not
>>>> - the NEED functionality - and mostly they don't KNOW about anything
>>>> else - that's all. So instead of running that INFERIOR Ubuntu, they
>>>> run that INFERIOR MS - big friggin' deal. No modern OS is what it
>>>> should be, but, IMHO, Linux comes a lot closer than MS.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Ubuntu was written by geeks for geeks who can't get laid.
>>>>
>>>> Such an obviously ignorant statement requires no comment.
>>>
>>> Here's what most home users use a computer for:
>>>
>>> 1. Email
>>>
>>> 2. Surfing the web
>>>
>>> 3. IMing
>>>
>>> 4. Photos.
>>>
>>> 5. Downloading audio and video
>>>
>>> 6. Playing music or watching a video
>>>
>>> And that's about it. Ubuntu will fit their needs and wants perfectly.
>>>

>> Try reading the OP's comment and you'll see that none of the above was
>> mentioned by the him.
>> He wants to run Corel's Quattro Pro which is a spread sheet app like
>> Excel.

>
> As I understand it, it's not much like excel at all - it works.


Have you ever used Quattro Pro or Excel?
 
R

ray

Flightless Bird
On Fri, 14 May 2010 14:54:45 -0700, Frank wrote:

> On 5/14/2010 1:21 PM, ray wrote:
>> On Fri, 14 May 2010 10:31:14 -0700, Frank wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/14/2010 9:40 AM, Alias wrote:
>>>> ray wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 14 May 2010 09:10:18 -0700, Heywood Jablowme wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "ray"<ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:85576fFbucU41@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>>> On Thu, 13 May 2010 17:53:03 -0700, Frank wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 5/13/2010 5:16 PM, bill wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 13 May 2010 00:02:45 +0000, ray wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 12 May 2010 19:16:44 -0600, no_one wrote:
>>>>>>>>> snip
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If you find you need assistance, which you most likely won't,
>>>>>>>>>> just holler. I'm partial to Debian myself.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks Ray. I did the deed any this comes to you from, dare I
>>>>>>>>> say it? Ubuntu. So far all is well. Even found the software to
>>>>>>>>> run my weather station. Got a lot of work ahead to get it all
>>>>>>>>> sorted out and running my way.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Lets us know how well Quattro Pro is running on your new os.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It should run perfectly well via WINE - but OpenOffice is
>>>>>>> included, so why sweat?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Who the hell wants to run Windows applications in Ubuntu and who
>>>>>> the hell would want to run them under WHINE? If you need Microsoft
>>>>>> applications, and most people want MS apps, then use Windows. No
>>>>>> need to use that INFERIOR Ubuntu that nobody wants.
>>>>>
>>>>> I note that you did NOT indicate that most people NEED ms apps -
>>>>> only that they WANT them. Actually, that's not quite correct either.
>>>>> Most folks want an app - they could not care less if it's an MS app
>>>>> or not - the NEED functionality - and mostly they don't KNOW about
>>>>> anything else - that's all. So instead of running that INFERIOR
>>>>> Ubuntu, they run that INFERIOR MS - big friggin' deal. No modern OS
>>>>> is what it should be, but, IMHO, Linux comes a lot closer than MS.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ubuntu was written by geeks for geeks who can't get laid.
>>>>>
>>>>> Such an obviously ignorant statement requires no comment.
>>>>
>>>> Here's what most home users use a computer for:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Email
>>>>
>>>> 2. Surfing the web
>>>>
>>>> 3. IMing
>>>>
>>>> 4. Photos.
>>>>
>>>> 5. Downloading audio and video
>>>>
>>>> 6. Playing music or watching a video
>>>>
>>>> And that's about it. Ubuntu will fit their needs and wants perfectly.
>>>>
>>> Try reading the OP's comment and you'll see that none of the above was
>>> mentioned by the him.
>>> He wants to run Corel's Quattro Pro which is a spread sheet app like
>>> Excel.

>>
>> As I understand it, it's not much like excel at all - it works.

>
> Have you ever used Quattro Pro or Excel?


Yes - to both.
 
F

Frank

Flightless Bird
On 5/14/2010 5:07 PM, ray wrote:
> On Fri, 14 May 2010 14:54:45 -0700, Frank wrote:
>
>> On 5/14/2010 1:21 PM, ray wrote:
>>> On Fri, 14 May 2010 10:31:14 -0700, Frank wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/14/2010 9:40 AM, Alias wrote:
>>>>> ray wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 14 May 2010 09:10:18 -0700, Heywood Jablowme wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "ray"<ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:85576fFbucU41@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 13 May 2010 17:53:03 -0700, Frank wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 5/13/2010 5:16 PM, bill wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 13 May 2010 00:02:45 +0000, ray wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 12 May 2010 19:16:44 -0600, no_one wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> snip
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If you find you need assistance, which you most likely won't,
>>>>>>>>>>> just holler. I'm partial to Debian myself.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Ray. I did the deed any this comes to you from, dare I
>>>>>>>>>> say it? Ubuntu. So far all is well. Even found the software to
>>>>>>>>>> run my weather station. Got a lot of work ahead to get it all
>>>>>>>>>> sorted out and running my way.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Lets us know how well Quattro Pro is running on your new os.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It should run perfectly well via WINE - but OpenOffice is
>>>>>>>> included, so why sweat?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Who the hell wants to run Windows applications in Ubuntu and who
>>>>>>> the hell would want to run them under WHINE? If you need Microsoft
>>>>>>> applications, and most people want MS apps, then use Windows. No
>>>>>>> need to use that INFERIOR Ubuntu that nobody wants.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I note that you did NOT indicate that most people NEED ms apps -
>>>>>> only that they WANT them. Actually, that's not quite correct either.
>>>>>> Most folks want an app - they could not care less if it's an MS app
>>>>>> or not - the NEED functionality - and mostly they don't KNOW about
>>>>>> anything else - that's all. So instead of running that INFERIOR
>>>>>> Ubuntu, they run that INFERIOR MS - big friggin' deal. No modern OS
>>>>>> is what it should be, but, IMHO, Linux comes a lot closer than MS.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ubuntu was written by geeks for geeks who can't get laid.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Such an obviously ignorant statement requires no comment.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's what most home users use a computer for:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Email
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. Surfing the web
>>>>>
>>>>> 3. IMing
>>>>>
>>>>> 4. Photos.
>>>>>
>>>>> 5. Downloading audio and video
>>>>>
>>>>> 6. Playing music or watching a video
>>>>>
>>>>> And that's about it. Ubuntu will fit their needs and wants perfectly.
>>>>>
>>>> Try reading the OP's comment and you'll see that none of the above was
>>>> mentioned by the him.
>>>> He wants to run Corel's Quattro Pro which is a spread sheet app like
>>>> Excel.
>>>
>>> As I understand it, it's not much like excel at all - it works.

>>
>> Have you ever used Quattro Pro or Excel?

>
> Yes - to both.


So what is the 10 yr old "error" you mentioned.
 
R

ray

Flightless Bird
On Fri, 14 May 2010 17:18:44 -0700, Frank wrote:

> On 5/14/2010 5:07 PM, ray wrote:
>> On Fri, 14 May 2010 14:54:45 -0700, Frank wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/14/2010 1:21 PM, ray wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 14 May 2010 10:31:14 -0700, Frank wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 5/14/2010 9:40 AM, Alias wrote:
>>>>>> ray wrote:
>>>>>>> On Fri, 14 May 2010 09:10:18 -0700, Heywood Jablowme wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "ray"<ray@zianet.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:85576fFbucU41@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 13 May 2010 17:53:03 -0700, Frank wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 5/13/2010 5:16 PM, bill wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 13 May 2010 00:02:45 +0000, ray wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 12 May 2010 19:16:44 -0600, no_one wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> snip
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If you find you need assistance, which you most likely won't,
>>>>>>>>>>>> just holler. I'm partial to Debian myself.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Ray. I did the deed any this comes to you from, dare I
>>>>>>>>>>> say it? Ubuntu. So far all is well. Even found the software to
>>>>>>>>>>> run my weather station. Got a lot of work ahead to get it all
>>>>>>>>>>> sorted out and running my way.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Lets us know how well Quattro Pro is running on your new os.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It should run perfectly well via WINE - but OpenOffice is
>>>>>>>>> included, so why sweat?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Who the hell wants to run Windows applications in Ubuntu and who
>>>>>>>> the hell would want to run them under WHINE? If you need
>>>>>>>> Microsoft applications, and most people want MS apps, then use
>>>>>>>> Windows. No need to use that INFERIOR Ubuntu that nobody wants.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I note that you did NOT indicate that most people NEED ms apps -
>>>>>>> only that they WANT them. Actually, that's not quite correct
>>>>>>> either. Most folks want an app - they could not care less if it's
>>>>>>> an MS app or not - the NEED functionality - and mostly they don't
>>>>>>> KNOW about anything else - that's all. So instead of running that
>>>>>>> INFERIOR Ubuntu, they run that INFERIOR MS - big friggin' deal. No
>>>>>>> modern OS is what it should be, but, IMHO, Linux comes a lot
>>>>>>> closer than MS.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ubuntu was written by geeks for geeks who can't get laid.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Such an obviously ignorant statement requires no comment.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here's what most home users use a computer for:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. Email
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2. Surfing the web
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3. IMing
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 4. Photos.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 5. Downloading audio and video
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 6. Playing music or watching a video
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And that's about it. Ubuntu will fit their needs and wants
>>>>>> perfectly.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Try reading the OP's comment and you'll see that none of the above
>>>>> was mentioned by the him.
>>>>> He wants to run Corel's Quattro Pro which is a spread sheet app like
>>>>> Excel.
>>>>
>>>> As I understand it, it's not much like excel at all - it works.
>>>
>>> Have you ever used Quattro Pro or Excel?

>>
>> Yes - to both.

>
> So what is the 10 yr old "error" you mentioned.


There were several errors reported in functions - I seem to recall some
statistical functions and some rounding errors. So have they fixed those?
 
J

John B. Slocomb

Flightless Bird
On Fri, 14 May 2010 15:45:42 +0200, Alias
<aka@maskedandanymous.org.invalido> wrote:

>Jackie wrote:
>> On 5/14/2010 13:13, Alias wrote:
>>> If I have to prove that Windows is vulnerable to malware and Linux is
>>> much more secure to you guys, then doing so is a futile endeavor and I'm
>>> not into futile endeavors.
>>>

>>
>> That is a very general statement compared to ones you have previously
>> given. For example, you gave a statements such as "If you click on an ad
>> laced with malware, you're giving it permission to run" and "there is
>> malware that has developed the ability to fool ALL anti virus/malware
>> apps and UAC". If you didn't see my response to this, please do that.
>>
>> Now, to answer your general statement...
>> For malicious apps to cause any damage to the system, it must be
>> elevated. I have already responded about the link you gave about
>> bypassing AV software
>> (http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/New-attack-bypasses-anti-virus-software-997621.html).
>>
>>
>> In pre-release versions of Windows 7, it was possible for a malicious
>> application to take advantage of the automatic elevation option in
>> Windows 7. I do not know if this was fixed in the final version.
>> http://www.withinwindows.com/2009/0...n-mistake-lets-malware-elevate-freely-easily/
>>
>> This feature is not present in Ubuntu, and you *can* turn it off in
>> Windows 7. That means it can no longer be taken advantage of.
>>
>> Of course, a malicious app could mess up your personal files that you
>> always have full access to, but that applies for Linux as well.
>>
>> Ubuntu has AppArmor installed by default. This is a an access control
>> system developed by Novell.
>> You can read more about it here:
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AppArmor
>>
>> Unfortunately, Windows does not have that installed by default, but you
>> can get similar solutions. I said earlier that I used Outpost Firewall
>> Pro 2009 that has a "Host protection" feature that provides a pretty
>> good amount of access control (like I mentioned in an earlier post). I
>> also use Sandboxie to run certain applications with limited resources.
>> http://www.sandboxie.com/
>>
>> Such solutions giving such great amount of control are not already
>> pre-installed and/or very well integrated with Windows.
>> Considering that a similar solution is pre-installed in Ubuntu and does
>> not cost anything, I would say that it is indeed unfortunate for Windows.

>
>Most people who use Windows don't update hardly anything. Techies can
>secure a Windows install but, like you said, with Ubuntu, it's installed
>securely by default.


Alias, Alias, you are letting your ignorance show... yet again.

Certainly you must know that configuring SELinux (you do know what
SELinux is?) is one of the most common hacks in Linux. "If you have
I/O problems just re-configure it to "disabled" and you're right,
mate."

Of course, the Newbees have problems and have to ask for advise, so it
is pretty obvious to anyone who does a bit of reading that many Linux
systems are wide open.

In addition, the possibility of acquiring mal-ware depends greatly on
how one uses the computer. I'm sure that you have discovered that
those who spend their time downloading warz and porn are very
susceptible to the problem while I can assure you that using the
computer in a more mature manner results in little or no mal-ware
being received.


John B. Slocomb
(johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)
 
J

John B. Slocomb

Flightless Bird
On Fri, 14 May 2010 15:47:21 +0200, Alias
<aka@maskedandanymous.org.invalido> wrote:

>John B. Slocomb wrote:
>> On Fri, 14 May 2010 12:34:58 +0200, Alias
>> <aka@maskedandanymous.org.invalido> wrote:
>>
>>> John B. Slocomb wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 13 May 2010 15:07:43 +0200, Jackie<Jackie@an.on> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 5/13/2010 14:48, Alias wrote:
>>>>>> Nor do I. I use both Windows and Linux.
>>>>> Do you have anything to say about the other things I said? You quoted
>>>>> everything in my post.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ah Jackie, you are learning about Alias. He posts some unsupported
>>>> slander about Windows and when someone rebuts his post complete with
>>>> quotes and references to demonstrate validity he replies with
>>>> irrelevancies.
>>>>
>>>> Given that Alias seems to know very little about computers, witness
>>>> his assertion that the Windows kernel is the Registry and that a
>>>> certain compilation of Linux is a version based on the desktop
>>>> environment, it seems likely that he is one of these "instant
>>>> experts", that finally learned enough to turn the computer on and off
>>>> and now portrays himself as the all knowing pundit.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> John B. Slocomb
>>>> (johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)
>>>
>>> Wrong, I have *never* claimed to be a computer expert.

>>
>>
>> You really, really, need to take some remedial reading classes as you
>> are either unable to understand simple English, or perhaps you don't
>> want to believe that you are wrong, yet again..
>>
>> In any event, the term I used in reference to you was "instant
>> expert", used as a form of ridicule for those who, with little or no
>> knowledge, run about telling everyone how to do their job. Or in your
>> case what the best computer system is.
>>
>> The Indians had a folk story about a rat that found a lump of turmeric
>> and started a provisions shop.
>>
>> John B. Slocomb
>> (johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)

>
>Triple yawn.


I didn't think that you'd "get it".

John B. Slocomb
(johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)
 
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John B. Slocomb

Flightless Bird
On Fri, 14 May 2010 15:46:50 +0200, Alias
<aka@maskedandanymous.org.invalido> wrote:

>John B. Slocomb wrote:
>> On Fri, 14 May 2010 12:36:07 +0200, Alias
>> <aka@maskedandanymous.org.invalido> wrote:
>>
>>> Jackie wrote:
>>>> On 5/14/2010 03:06, John B. Slocomb wrote:
>>>>> Ah Jackie, you are learning about Alias. He posts some unsupported
>>>>> slander about Windows and when someone rebuts his post complete with
>>>>> quotes and references to demonstrate validity he replies with
>>>>> irrelevancies.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It would be nice if he could actually try to back anything he says up
>>>> even he doesn't have any reliable references, because it really is like
>>>> you say. Technical details would be good so that we can see if it even
>>>> sounds logical or not.
>>>>
>>>
>>> OR, you could do your own research and see if what I am saying is true.
>>> What is it about you Windows users that makes you think everyone has to
>>> prove to you what they say is true?

>>
>> I suppose because most of us prefer not to be lied to. If you
>> don't/can't prove it how do we know that you aren't deliberately
>> lying? And after you display your ignorance of computers a few times
>> it is very difficult to accept that you know anything at all. Another
>> reason is because many people are naturally polite and dislike saying
>> "You are a liar" so instead that say something like "can you prove
>> it?"
>>
>> And I don't believe that it is confined to Windows users, I doubt that
>> many actually like to be lied to.
>>
>> John B. Slocomb
>> (johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)

>
>Double yawn.



Yes, I'm sure that you are correct. Telling the truth is a boring
subject, isn't it? Certainly you appear to be much more inclined to
tell lies then tell the truth.

Or is it simple ignorance that you suffer from?

John B. Slocomb
(johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)
 
J

John B. Slocomb

Flightless Bird
On Fri, 14 May 2010 15:46:17 +0200, Alias
<aka@maskedandanymous.org.invalido> wrote:

>John B. Slocomb wrote:
>> On Fri, 14 May 2010 13:13:29 +0200, Alias
>> <aka@maskedandanymous.org.invalido> wrote:
>>
>>> Jackie wrote:
>>>> On 5/14/2010 12:36, Alias wrote:
>>>>>> It would be nice if he could actually try to back anything he says up
>>>>>> even he doesn't have any reliable references, because it really is like
>>>>>> you say. Technical details would be good so that we can see if it even
>>>>>> sounds logical or not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> OR, you could do your own research and see if what I am saying is true.
>>>>> What is it about you Windows users that makes you think everyone has to
>>>>> prove to you what they say is true?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately, this is getting a bit ridiculous.
>>>> Facts are either true or false. I have said my part on why I believe
>>>> what I believe. I don't feel that you have contributed much.
>>>> If you feel that I am wrong, please enlighten me. If you don't want to
>>>> bother convincing me and other people on why we are wrong, I suggest we
>>>> stop talking about this because the conversation is already starting to
>>>> become meaningless.
>>>> If you have read my previous posts, does it really sound like I need to
>>>> "do my own research"? What part of what you *you* say sounds even
>>>> slightly convincing?
>>>> You can believe whatever you want to believe, but if you do not have any
>>>> intention on enlightening us, let's end this conversation right now.
>>>
>>> Regardless of any proof I may give, you and John won't believe me anyway
>>> so what's the point?
>>>
>>> If I have to prove that Windows is vulnerable to malware and Linux is
>>> much more secure to you guys, then doing so is a futile endeavor and I'm
>>> not into futile endeavors.

>>
>>
>> Yes if you actually demonstrated the truth of anything I'd accept what
>> you said however you have yet to demonstrate a truth.
>>
>> You allege that Windows is more susceptible to malware then Linux but
>> other then your say so why should we believe you?
>>
>> It is for a very good reason that "hearsay" is not accepted as
>> evidence in a court of law. Why? It is too easy to prevaricate. A
>> charge that has been leveled against you many times.
>>
>> John B. Slocomb
>> (johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)

>
>Yawn.



Well you certainly seem intent on demonstrating your true nature to
the world, don't you?

You have already proved that you know very little about Windows or
Linux (how about DOS? Know much about that?) and now you seem
determined to publicize the fact that the truth is boring to you, not
worth repeating, and that you are a confirmed liar.

My goodness but you are a piece of work aren't you?

John B. Slocomb
(johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)
 
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John B. Slocomb

Flightless Bird
On Fri, 14 May 2010 18:53:28 +0200, Jackie <Jackie@an.on> wrote:

>On 5/14/2010 18:10, Heywood Jablowme wrote:
>
>> Who the hell wants to run Windows applications in Ubuntu and who the
>> hell would want to run them under WHINE? If you need Microsoft
>> applications, and most people want MS apps, then use Windows. No need to
>> use that INFERIOR Ubuntu that nobody wants.
>>
>> Ubuntu was written by geeks for geeks who can't get laid.
>>

>
>Having *options* is a very good thing.
>
>It can be nice if you want to use Ubuntu and you actually have that
>option to use them via an emulator (Wine, CXGames, Cedega).
>
>Having used Windows since Windows 95 up until present version and not
>much Linux, I wouldn't exactly say that Ubuntu is bad. Overall, I
>personally feel that Windows is more complete. But... Windows still
>lacks essential features that Ubuntu has pre-installed. I, for one,
>think that finding and installing applications and the best drivers
>could (and should) be easier in Windows. There's a potential solution
>for this if you could gather developers and their products into one
>place. There were no good solution in Windows as early as in (most?)
>Linux distros (and still not now). I believe that is why applications
>for Windows are so spread without a good, easy, built-in way to find,
>browse and install them from one single place.


I think that one of the reasons for the "Oh! Linux can do anything
that Windows can" fiction is that most of the people using either
system aren't using it professionally.

One of the major reasons is that the vast majority of the business
world uses Windows and the associated applications. If you do a job
for most companies you will run head on into the fact that your Linux
system doesn't match their Windows.

Almost every project I have been on used Auto-Cad and during
construction of a project there are innumerable changes in the
drawings. The normal practice is to e-mail complete drawings back and
forth between the Engineering Office and the Field. Up-dated drawing
going out to the Field and marked up drawings showing the "As-builts"
sent back.

Frequently if one writes a report the company will request that both a
printed report and a disk copy be furnished, particularly if any form
of legal problems are anticipated. And, with extremely rare exceptions
they want the disks in "Word format".

It is all well and good to say "Well, Open Office can do the job", but
if you deliver a Linux formatted disk with a OO document on it you
will probably be told in no uncertain terms that it is not what you
contracted to do.

Of course Auto-Cad will run on Linux using Wine but how big a data
file can it handle? Are you sure that it can edit the largest drawing
that the Engineers want to send? If you are out in the middle of a 100
Sq. Km. sugar cane plantation in the middle of Java building a gas
plant for the National Oil Company it is not really a good time to
discover that you can't do your job because Linux won't do it.

No, as long as windows is the dominant computer operating system Linux
is never going to be a wholly acceptable system..

John B. Slocomb
(johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)
 
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John B. Slocomb

Flightless Bird
On Fri, 14 May 2010 09:11:08 -0700, "Heywood Jablowme"
<heywood@jablowme.gov> wrote:

>
>
>"Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.com.¡nvalido> wrote in message
>news:hsjodi$p72$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>> On 05/14/2010 02:55 PM, Man-wai Chang to The Door (33600bps) wrote:
>>>>> And running softwares developped [sic] for Windows.
>>>> Yeah, like malware.
>>>
>>> No.. DirectX 3D games and HDTV viewer! :)
>>>

>>
>> So what?
>>

>
>Shouldn't you go to the Ubuntu forums and help out those sorry sacks who
>believe they have a decent OS when in reality they have SHIT?
>


No he shouldn't!
If he logs onto alt.os.linux.ubuntu and starts his normal stupid
remarks there are several people over there that will eat his lunch.

Strangely, as it IS a Ubuntu group, stupid people aren't welcome!

John B. Slocomb
(johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)
 
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Alias

Flightless Bird
On 05/15/2010 05:40 AM, John B. Slocomb wrote:
> On Fri, 14 May 2010 18:53:28 +0200, Jackie<Jackie@an.on> wrote:
>
>> On 5/14/2010 18:10, Heywood Jablowme wrote:
>>
>>> Who the hell wants to run Windows applications in Ubuntu and who the
>>> hell would want to run them under WHINE? If you need Microsoft
>>> applications, and most people want MS apps, then use Windows. No need to
>>> use that INFERIOR Ubuntu that nobody wants.
>>>
>>> Ubuntu was written by geeks for geeks who can't get laid.
>>>

>>
>> Having *options* is a very good thing.
>>
>> It can be nice if you want to use Ubuntu and you actually have that
>> option to use them via an emulator (Wine, CXGames, Cedega).
>>
>> Having used Windows since Windows 95 up until present version and not
>> much Linux, I wouldn't exactly say that Ubuntu is bad. Overall, I
>> personally feel that Windows is more complete. But... Windows still
>> lacks essential features that Ubuntu has pre-installed. I, for one,
>> think that finding and installing applications and the best drivers
>> could (and should) be easier in Windows. There's a potential solution
>> for this if you could gather developers and their products into one
>> place. There were no good solution in Windows as early as in (most?)
>> Linux distros (and still not now). I believe that is why applications
>> for Windows are so spread without a good, easy, built-in way to find,
>> browse and install them from one single place.

>
> I think that one of the reasons for the "Oh! Linux can do anything
> that Windows can" fiction is that most of the people using either
> system aren't using it professionally.
>
> One of the major reasons is that the vast majority of the business
> world uses Windows and the associated applications. If you do a job
> for most companies you will run head on into the fact that your Linux
> system doesn't match their Windows.
>
> Almost every project I have been on used Auto-Cad and during
> construction of a project there are innumerable changes in the
> drawings. The normal practice is to e-mail complete drawings back and
> forth between the Engineering Office and the Field. Up-dated drawing
> going out to the Field and marked up drawings showing the "As-builts"
> sent back.
>
> Frequently if one writes a report the company will request that both a
> printed report and a disk copy be furnished, particularly if any form
> of legal problems are anticipated. And, with extremely rare exceptions
> they want the disks in "Word format".
>
> It is all well and good to say "Well, Open Office can do the job", but
> if you deliver a Linux formatted disk with a OO document on it you
> will probably be told in no uncertain terms that it is not what you
> contracted to do.
>
> Of course Auto-Cad will run on Linux using Wine but how big a data
> file can it handle? Are you sure that it can edit the largest drawing
> that the Engineers want to send? If you are out in the middle of a 100
> Sq. Km. sugar cane plantation in the middle of Java building a gas
> plant for the National Oil Company it is not really a good time to
> discover that you can't do your job because Linux won't do it.
>
> No, as long as windows is the dominant computer operating system Linux
> is never going to be a wholly acceptable system..
>
> John B. Slocomb
> (johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)


You're right. Some things can only be done with Windows, at least for
now. My point is that most HOME USERS can do everything they do with
Windows but more securely if they use Ubuntu or another Linux distro.

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Alias

Flightless Bird
On 05/15/2010 04:49 AM, John B. Slocomb wrote:
> On Fri, 14 May 2010 15:45:42 +0200, Alias
> <aka@maskedandanymous.org.invalido> wrote:
>
>> Jackie wrote:
>>> On 5/14/2010 13:13, Alias wrote:
>>>> If I have to prove that Windows is vulnerable to malware and Linux is
>>>> much more secure to you guys, then doing so is a futile endeavor and I'm
>>>> not into futile endeavors.
>>>>
>>>
>>> That is a very general statement compared to ones you have previously
>>> given. For example, you gave a statements such as "If you click on an ad
>>> laced with malware, you're giving it permission to run" and "there is
>>> malware that has developed the ability to fool ALL anti virus/malware
>>> apps and UAC". If you didn't see my response to this, please do that.
>>>
>>> Now, to answer your general statement...
>>> For malicious apps to cause any damage to the system, it must be
>>> elevated. I have already responded about the link you gave about
>>> bypassing AV software
>>> (http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/New-attack-bypasses-anti-virus-software-997621.html).
>>>
>>>
>>> In pre-release versions of Windows 7, it was possible for a malicious
>>> application to take advantage of the automatic elevation option in
>>> Windows 7. I do not know if this was fixed in the final version.
>>> http://www.withinwindows.com/2009/0...n-mistake-lets-malware-elevate-freely-easily/
>>>
>>> This feature is not present in Ubuntu, and you *can* turn it off in
>>> Windows 7. That means it can no longer be taken advantage of.
>>>
>>> Of course, a malicious app could mess up your personal files that you
>>> always have full access to, but that applies for Linux as well.
>>>
>>> Ubuntu has AppArmor installed by default. This is a an access control
>>> system developed by Novell.
>>> You can read more about it here:
>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AppArmor
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, Windows does not have that installed by default, but you
>>> can get similar solutions. I said earlier that I used Outpost Firewall
>>> Pro 2009 that has a "Host protection" feature that provides a pretty
>>> good amount of access control (like I mentioned in an earlier post). I
>>> also use Sandboxie to run certain applications with limited resources.
>>> http://www.sandboxie.com/
>>>
>>> Such solutions giving such great amount of control are not already
>>> pre-installed and/or very well integrated with Windows.
>>> Considering that a similar solution is pre-installed in Ubuntu and does
>>> not cost anything, I would say that it is indeed unfortunate for Windows.

>>
>> Most people who use Windows don't update hardly anything. Techies can
>> secure a Windows install but, like you said, with Ubuntu, it's installed
>> securely by default.

>
> Alias, Alias, you are letting your ignorance show... yet again.
>
> Certainly you must know that configuring SELinux (you do know what
> SELinux is?) is one of the most common hacks in Linux. "If you have
> I/O problems just re-configure it to "disabled" and you're right,
> mate."
>
> Of course, the Newbees have problems and have to ask for advise, so it
> is pretty obvious to anyone who does a bit of reading that many Linux
> systems are wide open.
>
> In addition, the possibility of acquiring mal-ware depends greatly on
> how one uses the computer. I'm sure that you have discovered that
> those who spend their time downloading warz and porn are very
> susceptible to the problem while I can assure you that using the
> computer in a more mature manner results in little or no mal-ware
> being received.
>
>
> John B. Slocomb
> (johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)


I guess you've never heard of drive by malware and you are assuming that
all Linux users are ignorant and all Windows users know what they're
doing. You're wrong.

--
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Alias

Flightless Bird
On 05/15/2010 05:01 AM, John B. Slocomb wrote:
> On Fri, 14 May 2010 15:46:17 +0200, Alias
> <aka@maskedandanymous.org.invalido> wrote:
>
>> John B. Slocomb wrote:
>>> On Fri, 14 May 2010 13:13:29 +0200, Alias
>>> <aka@maskedandanymous.org.invalido> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Jackie wrote:
>>>>> On 5/14/2010 12:36, Alias wrote:
>>>>>>> It would be nice if he could actually try to back anything he says up
>>>>>>> even he doesn't have any reliable references, because it really is like
>>>>>>> you say. Technical details would be good so that we can see if it even
>>>>>>> sounds logical or not.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> OR, you could do your own research and see if what I am saying is true.
>>>>>> What is it about you Windows users that makes you think everyone has to
>>>>>> prove to you what they say is true?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Unfortunately, this is getting a bit ridiculous.
>>>>> Facts are either true or false. I have said my part on why I believe
>>>>> what I believe. I don't feel that you have contributed much.
>>>>> If you feel that I am wrong, please enlighten me. If you don't want to
>>>>> bother convincing me and other people on why we are wrong, I suggest we
>>>>> stop talking about this because the conversation is already starting to
>>>>> become meaningless.
>>>>> If you have read my previous posts, does it really sound like I need to
>>>>> "do my own research"? What part of what you *you* say sounds even
>>>>> slightly convincing?
>>>>> You can believe whatever you want to believe, but if you do not have any
>>>>> intention on enlightening us, let's end this conversation right now.
>>>>
>>>> Regardless of any proof I may give, you and John won't believe me anyway
>>>> so what's the point?
>>>>
>>>> If I have to prove that Windows is vulnerable to malware and Linux is
>>>> much more secure to you guys, then doing so is a futile endeavor and I'm
>>>> not into futile endeavors.
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes if you actually demonstrated the truth of anything I'd accept what
>>> you said however you have yet to demonstrate a truth.
>>>
>>> You allege that Windows is more susceptible to malware then Linux but
>>> other then your say so why should we believe you?
>>>
>>> It is for a very good reason that "hearsay" is not accepted as
>>> evidence in a court of law. Why? It is too easy to prevaricate. A
>>> charge that has been leveled against you many times.
>>>
>>> John B. Slocomb
>>> (johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)

>>
>> Yawn.

>
>
> Well you certainly seem intent on demonstrating your true nature to
> the world, don't you?
>
> You have already proved that you know very little about Windows or
> Linux (how about DOS? Know much about that?) and now you seem
> determined to publicize the fact that the truth is boring to you, not
> worth repeating, and that you are a confirmed liar.
>
> My goodness but you are a piece of work aren't you?
>
> John B. Slocomb
> (johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)


Ad hominems galore again. Yawn.

--
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Alias

Flightless Bird
On 05/15/2010 04:53 AM, John B. Slocomb wrote:
> On Fri, 14 May 2010 15:46:50 +0200, Alias
> <aka@maskedandanymous.org.invalido> wrote:
>
>> John B. Slocomb wrote:
>>> On Fri, 14 May 2010 12:36:07 +0200, Alias
>>> <aka@maskedandanymous.org.invalido> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Jackie wrote:
>>>>> On 5/14/2010 03:06, John B. Slocomb wrote:
>>>>>> Ah Jackie, you are learning about Alias. He posts some unsupported
>>>>>> slander about Windows and when someone rebuts his post complete with
>>>>>> quotes and references to demonstrate validity he replies with
>>>>>> irrelevancies.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It would be nice if he could actually try to back anything he says up
>>>>> even he doesn't have any reliable references, because it really is like
>>>>> you say. Technical details would be good so that we can see if it even
>>>>> sounds logical or not.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> OR, you could do your own research and see if what I am saying is true.
>>>> What is it about you Windows users that makes you think everyone has to
>>>> prove to you what they say is true?
>>>
>>> I suppose because most of us prefer not to be lied to. If you
>>> don't/can't prove it how do we know that you aren't deliberately
>>> lying? And after you display your ignorance of computers a few times
>>> it is very difficult to accept that you know anything at all. Another
>>> reason is because many people are naturally polite and dislike saying
>>> "You are a liar" so instead that say something like "can you prove
>>> it?"
>>>
>>> And I don't believe that it is confined to Windows users, I doubt that
>>> many actually like to be lied to.
>>>
>>> John B. Slocomb
>>> (johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)

>>
>> Double yawn.

>
>
> Yes, I'm sure that you are correct. Telling the truth is a boring
> subject, isn't it? Certainly you appear to be much more inclined to
> tell lies then tell the truth.
>
> Or is it simple ignorance that you suffer from?
>
> John B. Slocomb
> (johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)


You can't reply to me without stating you are perfect and I am
imperfect, can you? You, sir, are a BORE and a very amateurish debater.

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