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Why need to install Driver for new Thumbdrive / harddisk

Discussion in 'Windows XP' started by dingdongdingding, May 16, 2010.

  1. dingdongdingding

    dingdongdingding Flightless Bird

    When I insert a new thumbdrive or Harddisk to my office laptop, it
    will prompt me to install driver. I wonder why is it necessary to do
    this for each new thumbdrive or harddisk ? Won't the drivers have
    been install the first time I insert any thumbdrive or harddisk ?

    Thanks.
     
  2. Elmo

    Elmo Flightless Bird

    dingdongdingding wrote:
    > When I insert a new thumbdrive or Harddisk to my office laptop, it
    > will prompt me to install driver. I wonder why is it necessary to do
    > this for each new thumbdrive or harddisk? Won't the drivers have
    > been installed the first time I insert any thumbdrive or harddisk?
    >
    > Thanks.


    XP asks for USB drivers:
    http://www.uwe-sieber.de/usbtrouble_e.html#xp_asks_for_drivers

    --
    Joe =o)
     
  3. dingdongdingding

    dingdongdingding Flightless Bird

    Thanks for your reply... But actually, I wanted to know why it is
    necessary install driver for each thumbdrive. This installation
    required Admin rights. So for those machines which I don't want to
    give admin right but I want them to transfer files, how do I set it
    up ?

    Thanks again.

    On May 17, 8:04 pm, Elmo <elmog...@xxx.invalid> wrote:
    > dingdongdingding wrote:
    > > When I insert a new thumbdrive or Harddisk to my office laptop, it
    > > will prompt me to install driver.  I wonder why is it necessary to do
    > > this for each new thumbdrive or harddisk?  Won't the drivers have
    > > been installed the first time I insert any thumbdrive or harddisk?

    >
    > > Thanks.

    >
    > XP asks for USB drivers:http://www.uwe-sieber.de/usbtrouble_e.html#xp_asks_for_drivers
    >
    > --
    > Joe   =o)
     
  4. Elmo

    Elmo Flightless Bird

    dingdongdingding wrote:
    > Thanks for your reply... But actually, I wanted to know why it is
    > necessary install driver for each thumbdrive. This installation
    > required Admin rights. So for those machines which I don't want to
    > give admin right but I want them to transfer files, how do I set it
    > up?
    >
    > Thanks again.


    Sorry, I don't have an answer to that one.. maybe a Google search will
    find a way around it. But I looked at a few sites and didn't find anything.

    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...+time&btnG=Search&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=

    > On May 17, 8:04 pm, Elmo <elmog...@xxx.invalid> wrote:
    >> dingdongdingding wrote:
    >>> When I insert a new thumbdrive or Harddisk to my office laptop, it
    >>> will prompt me to install driver. I wonder why is it necessary to do
    >>> this for each new thumbdrive or harddisk? Won't the drivers have
    >>> been installed the first time I insert any thumbdrive or harddisk?
    >>> Thanks.

    >> XP asks for USB drivers:http://www.uwe-sieber.de/usbtrouble_e.html#xp_asks_for_drivers


    --
    Joe =o)
     
  5. Uwe Sieber

    Uwe Sieber Flightless Bird

    Each device needs a driver and if Windows thinks a USB
    drive is a new one then it installs a driver for it.
    That's pretty normal. This does not required admin
    previleges if the drivers have a digital signature.
    If Windows asks for admin previleges then something
    is wrong and Elmo gave you the answer how to solve it:
    http://www.uwe-sieber.de/usbtrouble_e.html#xp_asks_for_drivers


    Uwe


    dingdongdingding wrote:
    > Thanks for your reply... But actually, I wanted to know why it is
    > necessary install driver for each thumbdrive. This installation
    > required Admin rights. So for those machines which I don't want to
    > give admin right but I want them to transfer files, how do I set it
    > up ?
    >
    > Thanks again.
    >
    > On May 17, 8:04 pm, Elmo <elmog...@xxx.invalid> wrote:
    >> dingdongdingding wrote:
    >>> When I insert a new thumbdrive or Harddisk to my office laptop, it
    >>> will prompt me to install driver. I wonder why is it necessary to do
    >>> this for each new thumbdrive or harddisk? Won't the drivers have
    >>> been installed the first time I insert any thumbdrive or harddisk?
    >>> Thanks.

    >> XP asks for USB drivers:http://www.uwe-sieber.de/usbtrouble_e.html#xp_asks_for_drivers
    >>
    >> --
    >> Joe =o)

    >
     
  6. Uwe Sieber

    Uwe Sieber Flightless Bird

    Uwe Sieber wrote:
    >
    > Each device needs a driver and if Windows thinks a USB
    > drive is a new one then it installs a driver for it.
    > That's pretty normal. This does not required admin
    > previleges if the drivers have a digital signature.
    > If Windows asks for admin previleges then something
    > is wrong and Elmo gave you the answer how to solve it:
    > http://www.uwe-sieber.de/usbtrouble_e.html#xp_asks_for_drivers


    You have to scroll down a bit to section
    "You must be a member of the administrators group"...
     
  7. dingdongdingding

    dingdongdingding Flightless Bird

    I see. So the install driver is trigger because of the cryptographic
    services is being enabled, if I understand the URL correctly. Is
    there any settings in registry to disable this install driver when the
    service is on ? Thanks very much.

    On May 18, 3:06 pm, Uwe Sieber <m...@uwe-sieber.de> wrote:
    > Each device needs a driver and if Windows thinks a USB
    > drive is a new one then it installs a driver for it.
    > That's pretty normal. This does not required admin
    > previleges if the drivers have a digital signature.
    > If Windows asks for admin previleges then something
    > is wrong and Elmo gave you the answer how to solve it:http://www.uwe-sieber.de/usbtrouble_e.html#xp_asks_for_drivers
    >
    > Uwe
    >
    >
    >
    > dingdongdingding wrote:
    > > Thanks for your reply...  But actually, I wanted to know why it is
    > > necessary install driver for each thumbdrive.  This installation
    > > required Admin rights.  So for those machines which I don't want to
    > > give admin right but I want them to transfer files, how do I set it
    > > up ?

    >
    > > Thanks again.

    >
    > > On May 17, 8:04 pm, Elmo <elmog...@xxx.invalid> wrote:
    > >> dingdongdingding wrote:
    > >>> When I insert a new thumbdrive or Harddisk to my office laptop, it
    > >>> will prompt me to install driver.  I wonder why is it necessary to do
    > >>> this for each new thumbdrive or harddisk?  Won't the drivers have
    > >>> been installed the first time I insert any thumbdrive or harddisk?
    > >>> Thanks.
    > >> XP asks for USB drivers:http://www.uwe-sieber.de/usbtrouble_e.html#xp_asks_for_drivers

    >
    > >> --
    > >> Joe   =o)- Hide quoted text -

    >
    > - Show quoted text -
     
  8. Uwe Sieber

    Uwe Sieber Flightless Bird

    The install driver is triggered because the device is
    a new one.

    To install the driver without user interaction
    - the service 'Cryptographic Services' must be running
    - the service 'Cryptographic Services' must have correct
    data
    - the digital signatures of the driver files to install
    must be intact

    How to check and fix I have described on my page.


    Uwe




    dingdongdingding wrote:
    > I see. So the install driver is trigger because of the cryptographic
    > services is being enabled, if I understand the URL correctly. Is
    > there any settings in registry to disable this install driver when the
    > service is on ? Thanks very much.
    >
    > On May 18, 3:06 pm, Uwe Sieber <m...@uwe-sieber.de> wrote:
    >> Each device needs a driver and if Windows thinks a USB
    >> drive is a new one then it installs a driver for it.
    >> That's pretty normal. This does not required admin
    >> previleges if the drivers have a digital signature.
    >> If Windows asks for admin previleges then something
    >> is wrong and Elmo gave you the answer how to solve it:http://www.uwe-sieber.de/usbtrouble_e.html#xp_asks_for_drivers
    >>
    >> Uwe
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> dingdongdingding wrote:
    >>> Thanks for your reply... But actually, I wanted to know why it is
    >>> necessary install driver for each thumbdrive. This installation
    >>> required Admin rights. So for those machines which I don't want to
    >>> give admin right but I want them to transfer files, how do I set it
    >>> up ?
    >>> Thanks again.
    >>> On May 17, 8:04 pm, Elmo <elmog...@xxx.invalid> wrote:
    >>>> dingdongdingding wrote:
    >>>>> When I insert a new thumbdrive or Harddisk to my office laptop, it
    >>>>> will prompt me to install driver. I wonder why is it necessary to do
    >>>>> this for each new thumbdrive or harddisk? Won't the drivers have
    >>>>> been installed the first time I insert any thumbdrive or harddisk?
    >>>>> Thanks.
    >>>> XP asks for USB drivers:http://www.uwe-sieber.de/usbtrouble_e.html#xp_asks_for_drivers
    >>>> --
    >>>> Joe =o)- Hide quoted text -

    >> - Show quoted text -

    >
     
  9. dingdongdingding

    dingdongdingding Flightless Bird

    OK. Thanks for your reply. I'll try.

    On May 18, 6:05 pm, Uwe Sieber <m...@uwe-sieber.de> wrote:
    > The install driver is triggered because the device is
    > a new one.
    >
    > To install the driver without user interaction
    > - the service 'Cryptographic Services' must be running
    > - the service 'Cryptographic Services' must have correct
    >    data
    > - the digital signatures of the driver files to install
    >    must be intact
    >
    > How to check and fix I have described on my page.
    >
    > Uwe
    >
    >
    >
    > dingdongdingding wrote:
    > > I see.  So the install driver is trigger because of the cryptographic
    > > services is being enabled, if I understand the URL correctly.  Is
    > > there any settings in registry to disable this install driver when the
    > > service is on ?  Thanks very much.

    >
    > > On May 18, 3:06 pm, Uwe Sieber <m...@uwe-sieber.de> wrote:
    > >> Each device needs a driver and if Windows thinks a USB
    > >> drive is a new one then it installs a driver for it.
    > >> That's pretty normal. This does not required admin
    > >> previleges if the drivers have a digital signature.
    > >> If Windows asks for admin previleges then something
    > >> is wrong and Elmo gave you the answer how to solve it:http://www.uwe-sieber.de/usbtrouble_e.html#xp_asks_for_drivers

    >
    > >> Uwe

    >
    > >> dingdongdingding wrote:
    > >>> Thanks for your reply...  But actually, I wanted to know why it is
    > >>> necessary install driver for each thumbdrive.  This installation
    > >>> required Admin rights.  So for those machines which I don't want to
    > >>> give admin right but I want them to transfer files, how do I set it
    > >>> up ?
    > >>> Thanks again.
    > >>> On May 17, 8:04 pm, Elmo <elmog...@xxx.invalid> wrote:
    > >>>> dingdongdingding wrote:
    > >>>>> When I insert a new thumbdrive or Harddisk to my office laptop, it
    > >>>>> will prompt me to install driver.  I wonder why is it necessary to do
    > >>>>> this for each new thumbdrive or harddisk?  Won't the drivers have
    > >>>>> been installed the first time I insert any thumbdrive or harddisk?
    > >>>>> Thanks.
    > >>>> XP asks for USB drivers:http://www.uwe-sieber.de/usbtrouble_e.html#xp_asks_for_drivers
    > >>>> --
    > >>>> Joe   =o)- Hide quoted text -
    > >> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

    >
    > - Show quoted text -
     
  10. dingdongdingding

    dingdongdingding Flightless Bird

    Hi !

    WRT to your point:

    > To install the driver without user interaction
    > - the service 'Cryptographic Services' must be running
    > - the service 'Cryptographic Services' must have correct
    > data
    > - the digital signatures of the driver files to install
    > must be intact


    I wonder if the default driver for thumbdrive meets these
    requirements ?

    On May 18, 6:05 pm, Uwe Sieber <m...@uwe-sieber.de> wrote:
    > The install driver is triggered because the device is
    > a new one.
    >
    > To install the driver without user interaction
    > - the service 'Cryptographic Services' must be running
    > - the service 'Cryptographic Services' must have correct
    >    data
    > - the digital signatures of the driver files to install
    >    must be intact
    >
    > How to check and fix I have described on my page.
    >
    > Uwe
    >
    >
    >
    > dingdongdingding wrote:
    > > I see.  So the install driver is trigger because of the cryptographic
    > > services is being enabled, if I understand the URL correctly.  Is
    > > there any settings in registry to disable this install driver when the
    > > service is on ?  Thanks very much.

    >
    > > On May 18, 3:06 pm, Uwe Sieber <m...@uwe-sieber.de> wrote:
    > >> Each device needs a driver and if Windows thinks a USB
    > >> drive is a new one then it installs a driver for it.
    > >> That's pretty normal. This does not required admin
    > >> previleges if the drivers have a digital signature.
    > >> If Windows asks for admin previleges then something
    > >> is wrong and Elmo gave you the answer how to solve it:http://www.uwe-sieber.de/usbtrouble_e.html#xp_asks_for_drivers

    >
    > >> Uwe

    >
    > >> dingdongdingding wrote:
    > >>> Thanks for your reply...  But actually, I wanted to know why it is
    > >>> necessary install driver for each thumbdrive.  This installation
    > >>> required Admin rights.  So for those machines which I don't want to
    > >>> give admin right but I want them to transfer files, how do I set it
    > >>> up ?
    > >>> Thanks again.
    > >>> On May 17, 8:04 pm, Elmo <elmog...@xxx.invalid> wrote:
    > >>>> dingdongdingding wrote:
    > >>>>> When I insert a new thumbdrive or Harddisk to my office laptop, it
    > >>>>> will prompt me to install driver.  I wonder why is it necessary to do
    > >>>>> this for each new thumbdrive or harddisk?  Won't the drivers have
    > >>>>> been installed the first time I insert any thumbdrive or harddisk?
    > >>>>> Thanks.
    > >>>> XP asks for USB drivers:http://www.uwe-sieber.de/usbtrouble_e.html#xp_asks_for_drivers
    > >>>> --
    > >>>> Joe   =o)- Hide quoted text -
    > >> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

    >
    > - Show quoted text -
     
  11. Uwe Sieber

    Uwe Sieber Flightless Bird

    dingdongdingding wrote:
    > Hi !
    >
    > WRT to your point:
    >
    >> To install the driver without user interaction
    >> - the service 'Cryptographic Services' must be running
    >> - the service 'Cryptographic Services' must have correct
    >> data
    >> - the digital signatures of the driver files to install
    >> must be intact

    >
    > I wonder if the default driver for thumbdrive meets these
    > requirements ?



    The drivers come with XP and have a valid digital signature,
    so they fulfill the 3rd requirement as long as the driver
    files are intact.
    The other requirements must be fulfilled by Windows. Have
    you checked this? Took a look at the setupapi.log?
     

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