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Why need to install Driver for new Thumbdrive / harddisk

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dingdongdingding

Flightless Bird
When I insert a new thumbdrive or Harddisk to my office laptop, it
will prompt me to install driver. I wonder why is it necessary to do
this for each new thumbdrive or harddisk ? Won't the drivers have
been install the first time I insert any thumbdrive or harddisk ?

Thanks.
 
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Elmo

Flightless Bird
dingdongdingding wrote:
> When I insert a new thumbdrive or Harddisk to my office laptop, it
> will prompt me to install driver. I wonder why is it necessary to do
> this for each new thumbdrive or harddisk? Won't the drivers have
> been installed the first time I insert any thumbdrive or harddisk?
>
> Thanks.


XP asks for USB drivers:
http://www.uwe-sieber.de/usbtrouble_e.html#xp_asks_for_drivers

--
Joe =o)
 
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dingdongdingding

Flightless Bird
Thanks for your reply... But actually, I wanted to know why it is
necessary install driver for each thumbdrive. This installation
required Admin rights. So for those machines which I don't want to
give admin right but I want them to transfer files, how do I set it
up ?

Thanks again.

On May 17, 8:04 pm, Elmo <elmog...@xxx.invalid> wrote:
> dingdongdingding wrote:
> > When I insert a new thumbdrive or Harddisk to my office laptop, it
> > will prompt me to install driver.  I wonder why is it necessary to do
> > this for each new thumbdrive or harddisk?  Won't the drivers have
> > been installed the first time I insert any thumbdrive or harddisk?

>
> > Thanks.

>
> XP asks for USB drivers:http://www.uwe-sieber.de/usbtrouble_e.html#xp_asks_for_drivers
>
> --
> Joe   =o)
 
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Elmo

Flightless Bird
dingdongdingding wrote:
> Thanks for your reply... But actually, I wanted to know why it is
> necessary install driver for each thumbdrive. This installation
> required Admin rights. So for those machines which I don't want to
> give admin right but I want them to transfer files, how do I set it
> up?
>
> Thanks again.


Sorry, I don't have an answer to that one.. maybe a Google search will
find a way around it. But I looked at a few sites and didn't find anything.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...+time&btnG=Search&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=

> On May 17, 8:04 pm, Elmo <elmog...@xxx.invalid> wrote:
>> dingdongdingding wrote:
>>> When I insert a new thumbdrive or Harddisk to my office laptop, it
>>> will prompt me to install driver. I wonder why is it necessary to do
>>> this for each new thumbdrive or harddisk? Won't the drivers have
>>> been installed the first time I insert any thumbdrive or harddisk?
>>> Thanks.

>> XP asks for USB drivers:http://www.uwe-sieber.de/usbtrouble_e.html#xp_asks_for_drivers


--
Joe =o)
 
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Uwe Sieber

Flightless Bird
Each device needs a driver and if Windows thinks a USB
drive is a new one then it installs a driver for it.
That's pretty normal. This does not required admin
previleges if the drivers have a digital signature.
If Windows asks for admin previleges then something
is wrong and Elmo gave you the answer how to solve it:
http://www.uwe-sieber.de/usbtrouble_e.html#xp_asks_for_drivers


Uwe


dingdongdingding wrote:
> Thanks for your reply... But actually, I wanted to know why it is
> necessary install driver for each thumbdrive. This installation
> required Admin rights. So for those machines which I don't want to
> give admin right but I want them to transfer files, how do I set it
> up ?
>
> Thanks again.
>
> On May 17, 8:04 pm, Elmo <elmog...@xxx.invalid> wrote:
>> dingdongdingding wrote:
>>> When I insert a new thumbdrive or Harddisk to my office laptop, it
>>> will prompt me to install driver. I wonder why is it necessary to do
>>> this for each new thumbdrive or harddisk? Won't the drivers have
>>> been installed the first time I insert any thumbdrive or harddisk?
>>> Thanks.

>> XP asks for USB drivers:http://www.uwe-sieber.de/usbtrouble_e.html#xp_asks_for_drivers
>>
>> --
>> Joe =o)

>
 
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Uwe Sieber

Flightless Bird
Uwe Sieber wrote:
>
> Each device needs a driver and if Windows thinks a USB
> drive is a new one then it installs a driver for it.
> That's pretty normal. This does not required admin
> previleges if the drivers have a digital signature.
> If Windows asks for admin previleges then something
> is wrong and Elmo gave you the answer how to solve it:
> http://www.uwe-sieber.de/usbtrouble_e.html#xp_asks_for_drivers


You have to scroll down a bit to section
"You must be a member of the administrators group"...
 
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dingdongdingding

Flightless Bird
I see. So the install driver is trigger because of the cryptographic
services is being enabled, if I understand the URL correctly. Is
there any settings in registry to disable this install driver when the
service is on ? Thanks very much.

On May 18, 3:06 pm, Uwe Sieber <m...@uwe-sieber.de> wrote:
> Each device needs a driver and if Windows thinks a USB
> drive is a new one then it installs a driver for it.
> That's pretty normal. This does not required admin
> previleges if the drivers have a digital signature.
> If Windows asks for admin previleges then something
> is wrong and Elmo gave you the answer how to solve it:http://www.uwe-sieber.de/usbtrouble_e.html#xp_asks_for_drivers
>
> Uwe
>
>
>
> dingdongdingding wrote:
> > Thanks for your reply...  But actually, I wanted to know why it is
> > necessary install driver for each thumbdrive.  This installation
> > required Admin rights.  So for those machines which I don't want to
> > give admin right but I want them to transfer files, how do I set it
> > up ?

>
> > Thanks again.

>
> > On May 17, 8:04 pm, Elmo <elmog...@xxx.invalid> wrote:
> >> dingdongdingding wrote:
> >>> When I insert a new thumbdrive or Harddisk to my office laptop, it
> >>> will prompt me to install driver.  I wonder why is it necessary to do
> >>> this for each new thumbdrive or harddisk?  Won't the drivers have
> >>> been installed the first time I insert any thumbdrive or harddisk?
> >>> Thanks.
> >> XP asks for USB drivers:http://www.uwe-sieber.de/usbtrouble_e.html#xp_asks_for_drivers

>
> >> --
> >> Joe   =o)- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -
 
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Uwe Sieber

Flightless Bird
The install driver is triggered because the device is
a new one.

To install the driver without user interaction
- the service 'Cryptographic Services' must be running
- the service 'Cryptographic Services' must have correct
data
- the digital signatures of the driver files to install
must be intact

How to check and fix I have described on my page.


Uwe




dingdongdingding wrote:
> I see. So the install driver is trigger because of the cryptographic
> services is being enabled, if I understand the URL correctly. Is
> there any settings in registry to disable this install driver when the
> service is on ? Thanks very much.
>
> On May 18, 3:06 pm, Uwe Sieber <m...@uwe-sieber.de> wrote:
>> Each device needs a driver and if Windows thinks a USB
>> drive is a new one then it installs a driver for it.
>> That's pretty normal. This does not required admin
>> previleges if the drivers have a digital signature.
>> If Windows asks for admin previleges then something
>> is wrong and Elmo gave you the answer how to solve it:http://www.uwe-sieber.de/usbtrouble_e.html#xp_asks_for_drivers
>>
>> Uwe
>>
>>
>>
>> dingdongdingding wrote:
>>> Thanks for your reply... But actually, I wanted to know why it is
>>> necessary install driver for each thumbdrive. This installation
>>> required Admin rights. So for those machines which I don't want to
>>> give admin right but I want them to transfer files, how do I set it
>>> up ?
>>> Thanks again.
>>> On May 17, 8:04 pm, Elmo <elmog...@xxx.invalid> wrote:
>>>> dingdongdingding wrote:
>>>>> When I insert a new thumbdrive or Harddisk to my office laptop, it
>>>>> will prompt me to install driver. I wonder why is it necessary to do
>>>>> this for each new thumbdrive or harddisk? Won't the drivers have
>>>>> been installed the first time I insert any thumbdrive or harddisk?
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>> XP asks for USB drivers:http://www.uwe-sieber.de/usbtrouble_e.html#xp_asks_for_drivers
>>>> --
>>>> Joe =o)- Hide quoted text -

>> - Show quoted text -

>
 
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dingdongdingding

Flightless Bird
OK. Thanks for your reply. I'll try.

On May 18, 6:05 pm, Uwe Sieber <m...@uwe-sieber.de> wrote:
> The install driver is triggered because the device is
> a new one.
>
> To install the driver without user interaction
> - the service 'Cryptographic Services' must be running
> - the service 'Cryptographic Services' must have correct
>    data
> - the digital signatures of the driver files to install
>    must be intact
>
> How to check and fix I have described on my page.
>
> Uwe
>
>
>
> dingdongdingding wrote:
> > I see.  So the install driver is trigger because of the cryptographic
> > services is being enabled, if I understand the URL correctly.  Is
> > there any settings in registry to disable this install driver when the
> > service is on ?  Thanks very much.

>
> > On May 18, 3:06 pm, Uwe Sieber <m...@uwe-sieber.de> wrote:
> >> Each device needs a driver and if Windows thinks a USB
> >> drive is a new one then it installs a driver for it.
> >> That's pretty normal. This does not required admin
> >> previleges if the drivers have a digital signature.
> >> If Windows asks for admin previleges then something
> >> is wrong and Elmo gave you the answer how to solve it:http://www.uwe-sieber.de/usbtrouble_e.html#xp_asks_for_drivers

>
> >> Uwe

>
> >> dingdongdingding wrote:
> >>> Thanks for your reply...  But actually, I wanted to know why it is
> >>> necessary install driver for each thumbdrive.  This installation
> >>> required Admin rights.  So for those machines which I don't want to
> >>> give admin right but I want them to transfer files, how do I set it
> >>> up ?
> >>> Thanks again.
> >>> On May 17, 8:04 pm, Elmo <elmog...@xxx.invalid> wrote:
> >>>> dingdongdingding wrote:
> >>>>> When I insert a new thumbdrive or Harddisk to my office laptop, it
> >>>>> will prompt me to install driver.  I wonder why is it necessary to do
> >>>>> this for each new thumbdrive or harddisk?  Won't the drivers have
> >>>>> been installed the first time I insert any thumbdrive or harddisk?
> >>>>> Thanks.
> >>>> XP asks for USB drivers:http://www.uwe-sieber.de/usbtrouble_e.html#xp_asks_for_drivers
> >>>> --
> >>>> Joe   =o)- Hide quoted text -
> >> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -
 
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dingdongdingding

Flightless Bird
Hi !

WRT to your point:

> To install the driver without user interaction
> - the service 'Cryptographic Services' must be running
> - the service 'Cryptographic Services' must have correct
> data
> - the digital signatures of the driver files to install
> must be intact


I wonder if the default driver for thumbdrive meets these
requirements ?

On May 18, 6:05 pm, Uwe Sieber <m...@uwe-sieber.de> wrote:
> The install driver is triggered because the device is
> a new one.
>
> To install the driver without user interaction
> - the service 'Cryptographic Services' must be running
> - the service 'Cryptographic Services' must have correct
>    data
> - the digital signatures of the driver files to install
>    must be intact
>
> How to check and fix I have described on my page.
>
> Uwe
>
>
>
> dingdongdingding wrote:
> > I see.  So the install driver is trigger because of the cryptographic
> > services is being enabled, if I understand the URL correctly.  Is
> > there any settings in registry to disable this install driver when the
> > service is on ?  Thanks very much.

>
> > On May 18, 3:06 pm, Uwe Sieber <m...@uwe-sieber.de> wrote:
> >> Each device needs a driver and if Windows thinks a USB
> >> drive is a new one then it installs a driver for it.
> >> That's pretty normal. This does not required admin
> >> previleges if the drivers have a digital signature.
> >> If Windows asks for admin previleges then something
> >> is wrong and Elmo gave you the answer how to solve it:http://www.uwe-sieber.de/usbtrouble_e.html#xp_asks_for_drivers

>
> >> Uwe

>
> >> dingdongdingding wrote:
> >>> Thanks for your reply...  But actually, I wanted to know why it is
> >>> necessary install driver for each thumbdrive.  This installation
> >>> required Admin rights.  So for those machines which I don't want to
> >>> give admin right but I want them to transfer files, how do I set it
> >>> up ?
> >>> Thanks again.
> >>> On May 17, 8:04 pm, Elmo <elmog...@xxx.invalid> wrote:
> >>>> dingdongdingding wrote:
> >>>>> When I insert a new thumbdrive or Harddisk to my office laptop, it
> >>>>> will prompt me to install driver.  I wonder why is it necessary to do
> >>>>> this for each new thumbdrive or harddisk?  Won't the drivers have
> >>>>> been installed the first time I insert any thumbdrive or harddisk?
> >>>>> Thanks.
> >>>> XP asks for USB drivers:http://www.uwe-sieber.de/usbtrouble_e.html#xp_asks_for_drivers
> >>>> --
> >>>> Joe   =o)- Hide quoted text -
> >> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -
 
U

Uwe Sieber

Flightless Bird
dingdongdingding wrote:
> Hi !
>
> WRT to your point:
>
>> To install the driver without user interaction
>> - the service 'Cryptographic Services' must be running
>> - the service 'Cryptographic Services' must have correct
>> data
>> - the digital signatures of the driver files to install
>> must be intact

>
> I wonder if the default driver for thumbdrive meets these
> requirements ?



The drivers come with XP and have a valid digital signature,
so they fulfill the 3rd requirement as long as the driver
files are intact.
The other requirements must be fulfilled by Windows. Have
you checked this? Took a look at the setupapi.log?
 
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