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What's This Nutty Message All About?

Discussion in 'Windows 7' started by Ricky Jimenez, Sep 25, 2010.

  1. Ricky Jimenez

    Ricky Jimenez Flightless Bird

    Every time I log onto my Win 7 64bit machine, I get this message soon
    after. I click to make it go away and don't seem to have any
    problems. I don't understand what applications config file is causing
    it. Anybody out there can explain?
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------
    See the end of this message for details on invoking
    just-in-time (JIT) debugging instead of this dialog box.

    ************** Exception Text **************
    System.ArgumentOutOfRangeException: Cannot anchor balloon at position
    '{X=1722,Y=1080}.' The point is not contained within the visible
    bounds of any screen.
    Parameter name: point
    Actual value was {X=1722,Y=1080}.
    at Rilling.Common.UI.Forms.BalloonWindow.MoveAnchorTo(Point point,
    Point pivot)
    at Rilling.Common.UI.Forms.BalloonWindow.MoveAnchorTo(Point point)
    at Rilling.Common.UI.Forms.BalloonWindow.Show(Point pt)
    at
    Swapdrive.Client.Screens.FormMain.ShowCustomBalloon(CustomBalloonType
    balloonType)
    at Swapdrive.Client.Screens.FormMain.OnTimer(Object sender,
    EventArgs e)
    at System.Windows.Forms.Timer.OnTick(EventArgs e)
    at System.Windows.Forms.Timer.TimerNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m)
    at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32
    msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)


    ************** Loaded Assemblies **************
    mscorlib
    Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
    Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.4952 (win7RTMGDR.050727-4900)
    CodeBase:
    file:///C:/Windows/Microsoft.NET/Framework/v2.0.50727/mscorlib.dll
    ----------------------------------------
    DataSafeOnline
    Assembly Version: 1.1.0.12260
    Win32 Version: 1.1.0.12260
    CodeBase:
    file:///C:/Program%20Files%20(x86)/Dell%20DataSafe%20Online/DataSafeOnline.exe
    ----------------------------------------
    System
    Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
    Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.4927 (NetFXspW7.050727-4900)
    CodeBase:
    file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.dll
    ----------------------------------------
    SdbShared
    Assembly Version: 1.1.0.12260
    Win32 Version: 1.1.0.12260
    CodeBase:
    file:///C:/Program%20Files%20(x86)/Dell%20DataSafe%20Online/SdbShared.DLL
    ----------------------------------------
    System.Windows.Forms
    Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
    Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.4927 (NetFXspW7.050727-4900)
    CodeBase:
    file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Windows.Forms/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Windows.Forms.dll
    ----------------------------------------
    System.Drawing
    Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
    Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.4927 (NetFXspW7.050727-4900)
    CodeBase:
    file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Drawing/2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/System.Drawing.dll
    ----------------------------------------
    BalloonWindow
    Assembly Version: 1.2.0.0
    Win32 Version: 1.2.0.0
    CodeBase:
    file:///C:/Program%20Files%20(x86)/Dell%20DataSafe%20Online/BalloonWindow.DLL
    ----------------------------------------
    SdbUI
    Assembly Version: 1.1.0.12260
    Win32 Version: 1.1.0.12260
    CodeBase:
    file:///C:/Program%20Files%20(x86)/Dell%20DataSafe%20Online/SdbUI.DLL
    ----------------------------------------
    System.Web.Services
    Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
    Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.4927 (NetFXspW7.050727-4900)
    CodeBase:
    file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Web.Services/2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/System.Web.Services.dll
    ----------------------------------------
    System.Xml
    Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
    Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.4927 (NetFXspW7.050727-4900)
    CodeBase:
    file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Xml/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Xml.dll
    ----------------------------------------
    System.Configuration
    Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
    Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.4927 (NetFXspW7.050727-4900)
    CodeBase:
    file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Configuration/2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/System.Configuration.dll
    ----------------------------------------
    SdbShared.XmlSerializers
    Assembly Version: 1.1.0.12260
    Win32 Version: 1.1.0.12260
    CodeBase:
    file:///C:/Program%20Files%20(x86)/Dell%20DataSafe%20Online/SdbShared.XmlSerializers.DLL
    ----------------------------------------
    System.Management
    Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
    Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.4927 (NetFXspW7.050727-4900)
    CodeBase:
    file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Management/2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/System.Management.dll
    ----------------------------------------
    mxfy611o
    Assembly Version: 1.1.0.12260
    Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.4927 (NetFXspW7.050727-4900)
    CodeBase:
    file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.dll
    ----------------------------------------

    ************** JIT Debugging **************
    To enable just-in-time (JIT) debugging, the .config file for this
    application or computer (machine.config) must have the
    jitDebugging value set in the system.windows.forms section.
    The application must also be compiled with debugging
    enabled.

    For example:

    <configuration>
    <system.windows.forms jitDebugging="true" />
    </configuration>

    When JIT debugging is enabled, any unhandled exception
    will be sent to the JIT debugger registered on the computer
    rather than be handled by this dialog box.
     
  2. DanS

    DanS Flightless Bird

    Ricky Jimenez <rickyjim@bestweb.net> wrote in
    news:r8ur96h073r56n587n8mpo6q775996vrd6@4ax.com:

    (Top-posted for brevity)

    I'd venture a guess that this line id's the offending
    program...

    file:///C:/Program%20Files%20(x86)/Dell%20DataSafe%
    20Online/DataSafeOnline.exe

    Had you had your resolution set to something equal to or
    greater than 1722 x 1080 ? (If so, and a stab in the dark) is
    that it saved that coordinate somewhere, and now that the
    resolution is set to lower, that point doesn't exist, and the
    poorly written Dell utility doesn't know how to deal with it.









    > Every time I log onto my Win 7 64bit machine, I get this
    > message soon after. I click to make it go away and don't
    > seem to have any problems. I don't understand what
    > applications config file is causing it. Anybody out there
    > can explain?
    > ------------------------------------------------------------
    > ----------- See the end of this message for details on
    > invoking just-in-time (JIT) debugging instead of this
    > dialog box.
    >
    > ************** Exception Text **************
    > System.ArgumentOutOfRangeException: Cannot anchor balloon
    > at position '{X=1722,Y=1080}.' The point is not contained
    > within the visible bounds of any screen.
    > Parameter name: point
    > Actual value was {X=1722,Y=1080}.
    > at
    > Rilling.Common.UI.Forms.BalloonWindow.MoveAnchorTo(Point
    > point,
    > Point pivot)
    > at
    > Rilling.Common.UI.Forms.BalloonWindow.MoveAnchorTo(Point
    > point) at
    > Rilling.Common.UI.Forms.BalloonWindow.Show(Point pt)
    > at
    > Swapdrive.Client.Screens.FormMain.ShowCustomBalloon(CustomBa
    > lloonType balloonType)
    > at Swapdrive.Client.Screens.FormMain.OnTimer(Object
    > sender,
    > EventArgs e)
    > at System.Windows.Forms.Timer.OnTick(EventArgs e)
    > at
    > System.Windows.Forms.Timer.TimerNativeWindow.WndProc(Mess
    > age& m) at
    > System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd,
    > Int32
    > msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)
    >
    >
    > ************** Loaded Assemblies **************
    > mscorlib
    > Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
    > Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.4952 (win7RTMGDR.050727-4900)
    > CodeBase:
    > file:///C:/Windows/Microsoft.NET/Framework/v2.0.50727/mscorl
    > ib.dll ----------------------------------------
    > DataSafeOnline
    > Assembly Version: 1.1.0.12260
    > Win32 Version: 1.1.0.12260
    > CodeBase:
    > file:///C:/Program%20Files%20(x86)/Dell%20DataSafe%20Online/
    > DataSafeOnline.exe ----------------------------------------
    > System
    > Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
    > Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.4927 (NetFXspW7.050727-4900)
    > CodeBase:
    > file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System/2.0.0.0__b77a5c5
    > 61934e089/System.dll
    > ---------------------------------------- SdbShared
    > Assembly Version: 1.1.0.12260
    > Win32 Version: 1.1.0.12260
    > CodeBase:
    > file:///C:/Program%20Files%20(x86)/Dell%20DataSafe%20Online/
    > SdbShared.DLL ----------------------------------------
    > System.Windows.Forms
    > Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
    > Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.4927 (NetFXspW7.050727-4900)
    > CodeBase:
    > file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Windows.Forms/2.
    > 0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Windows.Forms.dll
    > ---------------------------------------- System.Drawing
    > Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
    > Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.4927 (NetFXspW7.050727-4900)
    > CodeBase:
    > file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Drawing/2.0.0.0_
    > _b03f5f7f11d50a3a/System.Drawing.dll
    > ---------------------------------------- BalloonWindow
    > Assembly Version: 1.2.0.0
    > Win32 Version: 1.2.0.0
    > CodeBase:
    > file:///C:/Program%20Files%20(x86)/Dell%20DataSafe%20Online/
    > BalloonWindow.DLL ----------------------------------------
    > SdbUI
    > Assembly Version: 1.1.0.12260
    > Win32 Version: 1.1.0.12260
    > CodeBase:
    > file:///C:/Program%20Files%20(x86)/Dell%20DataSafe%20Online/
    > SdbUI.DLL ----------------------------------------
    > System.Web.Services
    > Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
    > Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.4927 (NetFXspW7.050727-4900)
    > CodeBase:
    > file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Web.Services/2.0
    > .0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/System.Web.Services.dll
    > ---------------------------------------- System.Xml
    > Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
    > Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.4927 (NetFXspW7.050727-4900)
    > CodeBase:
    > file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Xml/2.0.0.0__b77
    > a5c561934e089/System.Xml.dll
    > ----------------------------------------
    > System.Configuration
    > Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
    > Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.4927 (NetFXspW7.050727-4900)
    > CodeBase:
    > file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Configuration/2.
    > 0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/System.Configuration.dll
    > ----------------------------------------
    > SdbShared.XmlSerializers
    > Assembly Version: 1.1.0.12260
    > Win32 Version: 1.1.0.12260
    > CodeBase:
    > file:///C:/Program%20Files%20(x86)/Dell%20DataSafe%20Online/
    > SdbShared.XmlSerializers.DLL
    > ---------------------------------------- System.Management
    > Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
    > Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.4927 (NetFXspW7.050727-4900)
    > CodeBase:
    > file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Management/2.0.0
    > .0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/System.Management.dll
    > ---------------------------------------- mxfy611o
    > Assembly Version: 1.1.0.12260
    > Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.4927 (NetFXspW7.050727-4900)
    > CodeBase:
    > file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System/2.0.0.0__b77a5c5
    > 61934e089/System.dll
    > ----------------------------------------
    >
    > ************** JIT Debugging **************
    > To enable just-in-time (JIT) debugging, the .config file
    > for this application or computer (machine.config) must have
    > the jitDebugging value set in the system.windows.forms
    > section. The application must also be compiled with
    > debugging enabled.
    >
    > For example:
    >
    > <configuration>
    > <system.windows.forms jitDebugging="true" />
    > </configuration>
    >
    > When JIT debugging is enabled, any unhandled exception
    > will be sent to the JIT debugger registered on the computer
    > rather than be handled by this dialog box.
    >
    >
    >
     
  3. Dave-UK

    Dave-UK Flightless Bird

    "Ricky Jimenez" <rickyjim@bestweb.net> wrote in message
    news:r8ur96h073r56n587n8mpo6q775996vrd6@4ax.com...
    > Every time I log onto my Win 7 64bit machine, I get this message soon
    > after. I click to make it go away and don't seem to have any
    > problems. I don't understand what applications config file is causing
    > it. Anybody out there can explain?
    > -----------------------------------------------------------------------
    > See the end of this message for details on invoking
    > just-in-time (JIT) debugging instead of this dialog box.
    >
    > ************** Exception Text **************
    > System.ArgumentOutOfRangeException: Cannot anchor balloon at position
    > '{X=1722,Y=1080}.' The point is not contained within the visible
    > bounds of any screen.
    > Parameter name: point
    > Actual value was {X=1722,Y=1080}.
    > at Rilling.Common.UI.Forms.BalloonWindow.MoveAnchorTo(Point point,
    > Point pivot)
    > at Rilling.Common.UI.Forms.BalloonWindow.MoveAnchorTo(Point point)
    > at Rilling.Common.UI.Forms.BalloonWindow.Show(Point pt)
    >


    Looks like it's Dell's Datasafe program falling over:
    http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/software-os/f/3526/t/19270563.aspx
     
  4. Ricky Jimenez

    Ricky Jimenez Flightless Bird

    Thanks Dan. My resolution is set to the one recommended for my DELL
    monitor, 1920 x 1080. I simply removed the Dell DataSafe Online
    applications which I don't use and the error message went away. Now
    why couldn't Dell Solution Services figure out what the problem was?


    On Sat, 25 Sep 2010 08:46:48 -0500, DanS
    <t.h.i.s.n.t.h.a.t@r.o.a.d.r.u.n.n.e.r.c.o.m> wrote:

    >Ricky Jimenez <rickyjim@bestweb.net> wrote in
    >news:r8ur96h073r56n587n8mpo6q775996vrd6@4ax.com:
    >
    >(Top-posted for brevity)
    >
    >I'd venture a guess that this line id's the offending
    >program...
    >
    >file:///C:/Program%20Files%20(x86)/Dell%20DataSafe%
    >20Online/DataSafeOnline.exe
    >
    >Had you had your resolution set to something equal to or
    >greater than 1722 x 1080 ? (If so, and a stab in the dark) is
    >that it saved that coordinate somewhere, and now that the
    >resolution is set to lower, that point doesn't exist, and the
    >poorly written Dell utility doesn't know how to deal with it.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >> Every time I log onto my Win 7 64bit machine, I get this
    >> message soon after. I click to make it go away and don't
    >> seem to have any problems. I don't understand what
    >> applications config file is causing it. Anybody out there
    >> can explain?
    >> ------------------------------------------------------------
    >> ----------- See the end of this message for details on
    >> invoking just-in-time (JIT) debugging instead of this
    >> dialog box.
    >>
    >> ************** Exception Text **************
    >> System.ArgumentOutOfRangeException: Cannot anchor balloon
    >> at position '{X=1722,Y=1080}.' The point is not contained
    >> within the visible bounds of any screen.
    >> Parameter name: point
    >> Actual value was {X=1722,Y=1080}.
    >> at
    >> Rilling.Common.UI.Forms.BalloonWindow.MoveAnchorTo(Point
    >> point,
    >> Point pivot)
    >> at
    >> Rilling.Common.UI.Forms.BalloonWindow.MoveAnchorTo(Point
    >> point) at
    >> Rilling.Common.UI.Forms.BalloonWindow.Show(Point pt)
    >> at
    >> Swapdrive.Client.Screens.FormMain.ShowCustomBalloon(CustomBa
    >> lloonType balloonType)
    >> at Swapdrive.Client.Screens.FormMain.OnTimer(Object
    >> sender,
    >> EventArgs e)
    >> at System.Windows.Forms.Timer.OnTick(EventArgs e)
    >> at
    >> System.Windows.Forms.Timer.TimerNativeWindow.WndProc(Mess
    >> age& m) at
    >> System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd,
    >> Int32
    >> msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)
    >>
    >>
    >> ************** Loaded Assemblies **************
    >> mscorlib
    >> Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
    >> Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.4952 (win7RTMGDR.050727-4900)
    >> CodeBase:
    >> file:///C:/Windows/Microsoft.NET/Framework/v2.0.50727/mscorl
    >> ib.dll ----------------------------------------
    >> DataSafeOnline
    >> Assembly Version: 1.1.0.12260
    >> Win32 Version: 1.1.0.12260
    >> CodeBase:
    >> file:///C:/Program%20Files%20(x86)/Dell%20DataSafe%20Online/
    >> DataSafeOnline.exe ----------------------------------------
    >> System
    >> Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
    >> Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.4927 (NetFXspW7.050727-4900)
    >> CodeBase:
    >> file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System/2.0.0.0__b77a5c5
    >> 61934e089/System.dll
    >> ---------------------------------------- SdbShared
    >> Assembly Version: 1.1.0.12260
    >> Win32 Version: 1.1.0.12260
    >> CodeBase:
    >> file:///C:/Program%20Files%20(x86)/Dell%20DataSafe%20Online/
    >> SdbShared.DLL ----------------------------------------
    >> System.Windows.Forms
    >> Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
    >> Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.4927 (NetFXspW7.050727-4900)
    >> CodeBase:
    >> file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Windows.Forms/2.
    >> 0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Windows.Forms.dll
    >> ---------------------------------------- System.Drawing
    >> Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
    >> Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.4927 (NetFXspW7.050727-4900)
    >> CodeBase:
    >> file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Drawing/2.0.0.0_
    >> _b03f5f7f11d50a3a/System.Drawing.dll
    >> ---------------------------------------- BalloonWindow
    >> Assembly Version: 1.2.0.0
    >> Win32 Version: 1.2.0.0
    >> CodeBase:
    >> file:///C:/Program%20Files%20(x86)/Dell%20DataSafe%20Online/
    >> BalloonWindow.DLL ----------------------------------------
    >> SdbUI
    >> Assembly Version: 1.1.0.12260
    >> Win32 Version: 1.1.0.12260
    >> CodeBase:
    >> file:///C:/Program%20Files%20(x86)/Dell%20DataSafe%20Online/
    >> SdbUI.DLL ----------------------------------------
    >> System.Web.Services
    >> Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
    >> Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.4927 (NetFXspW7.050727-4900)
    >> CodeBase:
    >> file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Web.Services/2.0
    >> .0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/System.Web.Services.dll
    >> ---------------------------------------- System.Xml
    >> Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
    >> Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.4927 (NetFXspW7.050727-4900)
    >> CodeBase:
    >> file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Xml/2.0.0.0__b77
    >> a5c561934e089/System.Xml.dll
    >> ----------------------------------------
    >> System.Configuration
    >> Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
    >> Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.4927 (NetFXspW7.050727-4900)
    >> CodeBase:
    >> file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Configuration/2.
    >> 0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/System.Configuration.dll
    >> ----------------------------------------
    >> SdbShared.XmlSerializers
    >> Assembly Version: 1.1.0.12260
    >> Win32 Version: 1.1.0.12260
    >> CodeBase:
    >> file:///C:/Program%20Files%20(x86)/Dell%20DataSafe%20Online/
    >> SdbShared.XmlSerializers.DLL
    >> ---------------------------------------- System.Management
    >> Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
    >> Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.4927 (NetFXspW7.050727-4900)
    >> CodeBase:
    >> file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Management/2.0.0
    >> .0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/System.Management.dll
    >> ---------------------------------------- mxfy611o
    >> Assembly Version: 1.1.0.12260
    >> Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.4927 (NetFXspW7.050727-4900)
    >> CodeBase:
    >> file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System/2.0.0.0__b77a5c5
    >> 61934e089/System.dll
    >> ----------------------------------------
    >>
    >> ************** JIT Debugging **************
    >> To enable just-in-time (JIT) debugging, the .config file
    >> for this application or computer (machine.config) must have
    >> the jitDebugging value set in the system.windows.forms
    >> section. The application must also be compiled with
    >> debugging enabled.
    >>
    >> For example:
    >>
    >> <configuration>
    >> <system.windows.forms jitDebugging="true" />
    >> </configuration>
    >>
    >> When JIT debugging is enabled, any unhandled exception
    >> will be sent to the JIT debugger registered on the computer
    >> rather than be handled by this dialog box.
    >>
    >>
    >>
     
  5. Dave \Crash\ Dummy

    Dave \Crash\ Dummy Flightless Bird

    Ricky Jimenez wrote:
    > Thanks Dan. My resolution is set to the one recommended for my DELL
    > monitor, 1920 x 1080. I simply removed the Dell DataSafe Online
    > applications which I don't use and the error message went away. Now
    > why couldn't Dell Solution Services figure out what the problem was?


    Because problems are always somebody else's fault.
    --
    Crash

    "In politics, stupidity is not a handicap."
    ~ Napoleon Bonaparte ~
     
  6. Alex Clayton

    Alex Clayton Flightless Bird

    "Ricky Jimenez" <rickyjim@bestweb.net> wrote in message
    news:1f2s96dpa0lfailkrutqqcqd8qe0lkivap@4ax.com...
    > Thanks Dan. My resolution is set to the one recommended for my DELL

    Now
    > why couldn't Dell Solution Services figure out what the problem was?
    >
    >
    >


    I have had to deal with the Dell "help" a few times and the only thing they
    seemed real good for was teaching me how to do a lot of stuff I used to be
    afraid to do or just did not want to learn.

    BTW Gene. New Dell desk top got here Thursday. So the countdown begins. Its
    now day 3 and so far Wife has not noticed it's a new computer. I have seen
    her look at it kind of funny a couple times but so far no "hey, this is a
    different computer".

    --
    "Everything in excess! To enjoy the flavor of life, take big bites.
    Moderation is for monks."

    [Lazarus Long]
     
  7. DanS

    DanS Flightless Bird

    Ricky Jimenez <rickyjim@bestweb.net> wrote in
    news:1f2s96dpa0lfailkrutqqcqd8qe0lkivap@4ax.com:

    > Thanks Dan. My resolution is set to the one recommended
    > for my DELL monitor, 1920 x 1080. I simply removed the
    > Dell DataSafe Online applications which I don't use and the
    > error message went away. Now why couldn't Dell Solution
    > Services figure out what the problem was?


    You talked to Dell (?), or is that some type of trouble
    shooting app they shove down the throats of every customer ?

    I've found telephone support from almost any company is
    abysmal......at best.








    >
    >
    > On Sat, 25 Sep 2010 08:46:48 -0500, DanS
    > <t.h.i.s.n.t.h.a.t@r.o.a.d.r.u.n.n.e.r.c.o.m> wrote:
    >
    >>Ricky Jimenez <rickyjim@bestweb.net> wrote in
    >>news:r8ur96h073r56n587n8mpo6q775996vrd6@4ax.com:
    >>
    >>(Top-posted for brevity)
    >>
    >>I'd venture a guess that this line id's the offending
    >>program...
    >>
    >>file:///C:/Program%20Files%20(x86)/Dell%20DataSafe%
    >>20Online/DataSafeOnline.exe
    >>
    >>Had you had your resolution set to something equal to or
    >>greater than 1722 x 1080 ? (If so, and a stab in the dark)
    >>is that it saved that coordinate somewhere, and now that
    >>the resolution is set to lower, that point doesn't exist,
    >>and the poorly written Dell utility doesn't know how to
    >>deal with it.
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>> Every time I log onto my Win 7 64bit machine, I get this
    >>> message soon after. I click to make it go away and don't
    >>> seem to have any problems. I don't understand what
    >>> applications config file is causing it. Anybody out
    >>> there can explain?
    >>> ----------------------------------------------------------
    >>> -- ----------- See the end of this message for details on
    >>> invoking just-in-time (JIT) debugging instead of this
    >>> dialog box.
    >>>
    >>> ************** Exception Text **************
    >>> System.ArgumentOutOfRangeException: Cannot anchor balloon
    >>> at position '{X=1722,Y=1080}.' The point is not
    >>> contained within the visible bounds of any screen.
    >>> Parameter name: point
    >>> Actual value was {X=1722,Y=1080}.
    >>> at
    >>> Rilling.Common.UI.Forms.BalloonWindow.MoveAnchorTo(Poin
    >>> t point,
    >>> Point pivot)
    >>> at
    >>> Rilling.Common.UI.Forms.BalloonWindow.MoveAnchorTo(Poin
    >>> t point) at
    >>> Rilling.Common.UI.Forms.BalloonWindow.Show(Point pt)
    >>> at
    >>> Swapdrive.Client.Screens.FormMain.ShowCustomBalloon(Custom
    >>> Ba lloonType balloonType)
    >>> at Swapdrive.Client.Screens.FormMain.OnTimer(Object
    >>> sender,
    >>> EventArgs e)
    >>> at System.Windows.Forms.Timer.OnTick(EventArgs e)
    >>> at
    >>> System.Windows.Forms.Timer.TimerNativeWindow.WndProc(Me
    >>> ss age& m) at
    >>> System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr
    >>> hWnd, Int32
    >>> msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> ************** Loaded Assemblies **************
    >>> mscorlib
    >>> Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
    >>> Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.4952
    >>> (win7RTMGDR.050727-4900) CodeBase:
    >>> file:///C:/Windows/Microsoft.NET/Framework/v2.0.50727/msco
    >>> rl ib.dll ----------------------------------------
    >>> DataSafeOnline
    >>> Assembly Version: 1.1.0.12260
    >>> Win32 Version: 1.1.0.12260
    >>> CodeBase:
    >>> file:///C:/Program%20Files%20(x86)/Dell%20DataSafe%20Onlin
    >>> e/ DataSafeOnline.exe
    >>> ---------------------------------------- System
    >>> Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
    >>> Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.4927 (NetFXspW7.050727-4900)
    >>> CodeBase:
    >>> file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System/2.0.0.0__b77a5
    >>> c5 61934e089/System.dll
    >>> ---------------------------------------- SdbShared
    >>> Assembly Version: 1.1.0.12260
    >>> Win32 Version: 1.1.0.12260
    >>> CodeBase:
    >>> file:///C:/Program%20Files%20(x86)/Dell%20DataSafe%20Onlin
    >>> e/ SdbShared.DLL ----------------------------------------
    >>> System.Windows.Forms
    >>> Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
    >>> Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.4927 (NetFXspW7.050727-4900)
    >>> CodeBase:
    >>> file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Windows.Forms/
    >>> 2. 0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Windows.Forms.dll
    >>> ---------------------------------------- System.Drawing
    >>> Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
    >>> Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.4927 (NetFXspW7.050727-4900)
    >>> CodeBase:
    >>> file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Drawing/2.0.0.
    >>> 0_ _b03f5f7f11d50a3a/System.Drawing.dll
    >>> ---------------------------------------- BalloonWindow
    >>> Assembly Version: 1.2.0.0
    >>> Win32 Version: 1.2.0.0
    >>> CodeBase:
    >>> file:///C:/Program%20Files%20(x86)/Dell%20DataSafe%20Onlin
    >>> e/ BalloonWindow.DLL
    >>> ---------------------------------------- SdbUI
    >>> Assembly Version: 1.1.0.12260
    >>> Win32 Version: 1.1.0.12260
    >>> CodeBase:
    >>> file:///C:/Program%20Files%20(x86)/Dell%20DataSafe%20Onlin
    >>> e/ SdbUI.DLL ----------------------------------------
    >>> System.Web.Services
    >>> Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
    >>> Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.4927 (NetFXspW7.050727-4900)
    >>> CodeBase:
    >>> file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Web.Services/2
    >>> .0 .0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/System.Web.Services.dll
    >>> ---------------------------------------- System.Xml
    >>> Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
    >>> Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.4927 (NetFXspW7.050727-4900)
    >>> CodeBase:
    >>> file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Xml/2.0.0.0__b
    >>> 77 a5c561934e089/System.Xml.dll
    >>> ----------------------------------------
    >>> System.Configuration
    >>> Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
    >>> Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.4927 (NetFXspW7.050727-4900)
    >>> CodeBase:
    >>> file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Configuration/
    >>> 2. 0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/System.Configuration.dll
    >>> ----------------------------------------
    >>> SdbShared.XmlSerializers
    >>> Assembly Version: 1.1.0.12260
    >>> Win32 Version: 1.1.0.12260
    >>> CodeBase:
    >>> file:///C:/Program%20Files%20(x86)/Dell%20DataSafe%20Onlin
    >>> e/ SdbShared.XmlSerializers.DLL
    >>> ----------------------------------------
    >>> System.Management
    >>> Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
    >>> Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.4927 (NetFXspW7.050727-4900)
    >>> CodeBase:
    >>> file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Management/2.0
    >>> .0 .0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/System.Management.dll
    >>> ---------------------------------------- mxfy611o
    >>> Assembly Version: 1.1.0.12260
    >>> Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.4927 (NetFXspW7.050727-4900)
    >>> CodeBase:
    >>> file:///C:/Windows/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System/2.0.0.0__b77a5
    >>> c5 61934e089/System.dll
    >>> ----------------------------------------
    >>>
    >>> ************** JIT Debugging **************
    >>> To enable just-in-time (JIT) debugging, the .config file
    >>> for this application or computer (machine.config) must
    >>> have the jitDebugging value set in the
    >>> system.windows.forms section. The application must also
    >>> be compiled with debugging enabled.
    >>>
    >>> For example:
    >>>
    >>> <configuration>
    >>> <system.windows.forms jitDebugging="true" />
    >>> </configuration>
    >>>
    >>> When JIT debugging is enabled, any unhandled exception
    >>> will be sent to the JIT debugger registered on the
    >>> computer rather than be handled by this dialog box.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
     
  8. Dave

    Dave Flightless Bird

    "Alex Clayton" <alexx1403@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:k-6dnQJsbcNErAPRnZ2dnUVZ_ridnZ2d@nventure.com...
    > "Ricky Jimenez" <rickyjim@bestweb.net> wrote in message
    > news:1f2s96dpa0lfailkrutqqcqd8qe0lkivap@4ax.com...
    >> Thanks Dan. My resolution is set to the one recommended for my DELL

    > Now
    >> why couldn't Dell Solution Services figure out what the problem was?
    >>
    >>
    >>

    >
    > I have had to deal with the Dell "help" a few times and the only thing
    > they seemed real good for was teaching me how to do a lot of stuff I used
    > to be afraid to do or just did not want to learn.
    >
    > BTW Gene. New Dell desk top got here Thursday. So the countdown begins.
    > Its now day 3 and so far Wife has not noticed it's a new computer. I have
    > seen her look at it kind of funny a couple times but so far no "hey, this
    > is a different computer".
    >
    > --
    > "Everything in excess! To enjoy the flavor of life, take big bites.
    > Moderation is for monks."
    >
    > [Lazarus Long]
    >
    >


    Ricky,
    I have subscribed to the same marriage principal as you, "I'd rather beg for
    forgiveness than ask for permission." It's worked for over 30 years and
    she's still a good wife. =D
    Dave
     
  9. Ken Blake

    Ken Blake Flightless Bird

    On Sat, 25 Sep 2010 19:00:28 -0500, DanS
    <t.h.i.s.n.t.h.a.t@r.o.a.d.r.u.n.n.e.r.c.o.m> wrote:

    > I've found telephone support from almost any company is
    > abysmal......at best.



    That's not what I've had. I've had some very poor experiences and I've
    had some good experiences. In general, although the "tech" might be
    bad at real troubleshooting, if my issue was a common one, they've
    been very helpful.

    Two recent good examples come to mind: Vonage VoIP service and
    Samsung.




    --
    Ken Blake
     
  10. Alex Clayton

    Alex Clayton Flightless Bird

    "DanS" <t.h.i.s.n.t.h.a.t@r.o.a.d.r.u.n.n.e.r.c.o.m> wrote in message
    news:Xns9DFECB906DD78thisnthatroadrunnern@216.196.97.131...
    > Ricky Jimenez <rickyjim@bestweb.net> wrote in
    > news:1f2s96dpa0lfailkrutqqcqd8qe0lkivap@4ax.com:
    >
    >> Thanks Dan. My resolution is set to the one recommended
    >> for my DELL monitor, 1920 x 1080. I simply removed the
    >> Dell DataSafe Online applications which I don't use and the
    >> error message went away. Now why couldn't Dell Solution
    >> Services figure out what the problem was?

    >
    > You talked to Dell (?), or is that some type of trouble
    > shooting app they shove down the throats of every customer ?
    >
    > I've found telephone support from almost any company is
    > abysmal......at best.
    >
    >
    >

    The biggest problem I have had is when places outsource it to India. Then
    you have the fun of trying to understand someone who can "kind of" speak
    English. If the person you are talking to actually knows how to help it's
    not that bad. If they can not speak English and have no clue then it soon
    gets very frustrating.
    When I bought my wireless router I set it up and it of course worked but
    as soon as I locked it down that was the end of it working. I tried for a
    while then called and it was India, but the guy did know how to fix it and I
    was soon on line.
    A month or so later one of the Kids and Her O/H got Broadband and the same
    wireless Router and asked me to help. I screwed up on theirs somehow too.
    Called and again it was India but again the guy had me going in no time.
    Now Dell has been a whole different thing. I don't know if it's luck of
    the draw as to who you get, or if they just get a cut rate staff even by
    India standards but it has rarely gone well the first time. It often left me
    to give up after a while and seek out help on line myself.
    --
    I think drug tests are great. Since I have to pass them to earn money to pay
    taxes, Everyone on, or applying for welfare should have to pass them to get
    some of my money.
     
  11. Alex Clayton

    Alex Clayton Flightless Bird

    "Dave" <dave@unknown.invalid> wrote in message
    news:D8ydncom9ZwBQAPRnZ2dnUVZ_uCdnZ2d@sigecom.net...
    >
    > "Alex Clayton" <alexx1403@gmail.com> wrote in message


    >>
    >> BTW Gene. New Dell desk top got here Thursday. So the countdown begins.
    >> Its now day 3 and so far Wife has not noticed it's a new computer. I have
    >> seen her look at it kind of funny a couple times but so far no "hey, this
    >> is a different computer".
    >>
    >> --
    >> "Everything in excess! To enjoy the flavor of life, take big bites.
    >> Moderation is for monks."
    >>
    >> [Lazarus Long]
    >>
    >>

    >
    > Ricky,
    > I have subscribed to the same marriage principal as you, "I'd rather beg
    > for forgiveness than ask for permission." It's worked for over 30 years
    > and she's still a good wife. =D
    > Dave


    That was me not Ricky on that one, but the idea is the same for me. <G>
    A while back we were talking about my problem with a Gateway laptop made
    by Acer and all the fun I was having after they fixed it and the license was
    now no good. I mentioned that I had decided to replace an old Desktop and
    after all the frustration with Acer was not going to buy another E-Machine
    so ordered a Dell. Then said I was going to set it up while the Wife was not
    home and see how long it took her to realize it was not the old XP machine
    but a new W-7. Between it being a new OS and a much better monitor I thought
    it would be great to see how long it took for her to notice. So far we are
    up to day 4.
    --
    "Everything in excess! To enjoy the flavor of life, take big bites.
    Moderation is for monks."

    [Lazarus Long]
     
  12. Sunny Bard

    Sunny Bard Flightless Bird

    Alex Clayton wrote:

    > I was going to set it up
    > while the Wife was not home and see how long it took her to realize it
    > was not the old XP machine but a new W-7. Between it being a new OS and
    > a much better monitor I thought it would be great to see how long it
    > took for her to notice. So far we are up to day 4.


    She's waiting for the credit card statement to arrive so she decide how
    close to death she'll flame you ...
     
  13. Dave

    Dave Flightless Bird

    "Alex Clayton" <alexx1403@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:prydnTM0Q_U_2gLRnZ2dnUVZ_hidnZ2d@nventure.com...
    > "Dave" <dave@unknown.invalid> wrote in message
    > news:D8ydncom9ZwBQAPRnZ2dnUVZ_uCdnZ2d@sigecom.net...
    >>
    >> "Alex Clayton" <alexx1403@gmail.com> wrote in message

    >
    >>>
    >>> BTW Gene. New Dell desk top got here Thursday. So the countdown begins.
    >>> Its now day 3 and so far Wife has not noticed it's a new computer. I
    >>> have seen her look at it kind of funny a couple times but so far no
    >>> "hey, this is a different computer".
    >>>
    >>> --
    >>> "Everything in excess! To enjoy the flavor of life, take big bites.
    >>> Moderation is for monks."
    >>>
    >>> [Lazarus Long]
    >>>
    >>>

    >>
    >> Ricky,
    >> I have subscribed to the same marriage principal as you, "I'd rather beg
    >> for forgiveness than ask for permission." It's worked for over 30 years
    >> and she's still a good wife. =D
    >> Dave

    >
    > That was me not Ricky on that one, but the idea is the same for me. <G>
    > A while back we were talking about my problem with a Gateway laptop made
    > by Acer and all the fun I was having after they fixed it and the license
    > was now no good. I mentioned that I had decided to replace an old Desktop
    > and after all the frustration with Acer was not going to buy another
    > E-Machine so ordered a Dell. Then said I was going to set it up while the
    > Wife was not home and see how long it took her to realize it was not the
    > old XP machine but a new W-7. Between it being a new OS and a much better
    > monitor I thought it would be great to see how long it took for her to
    > notice. So far we are up to day 4.
    > --
    > "Everything in excess! To enjoy the flavor of life, take big bites.
    > Moderation is for monks."
    >
    > [Lazarus Long]
    >
    >


    Alex,
    Great to see another advocate of the philosophy that saves a marriage. =D
    Hope you make it to many more days, that will give you time to practice your
    begging skills. Best one I ever managed to get over was a new car for my
    wife. Needless to say I didn't have to beg long on that one. =D
    Dave
     
  14. Gene E. Bloch

    Gene E. Bloch Flightless Bird

    On Sat, 25 Sep 2010 10:31:21 -0700, Alex Clayton wrote:

    > "Ricky Jimenez" <rickyjim@bestweb.net> wrote in message
    > news:1f2s96dpa0lfailkrutqqcqd8qe0lkivap@4ax.com...
    >> Thanks Dan. My resolution is set to the one recommended for my DELL

    > Now
    >> why couldn't Dell Solution Services figure out what the problem was?
    >>
    >>
    >>

    >
    > I have had to deal with the Dell "help" a few times and the only thing they
    > seemed real good for was teaching me how to do a lot of stuff I used to be
    > afraid to do or just did not want to learn.
    >
    > BTW Gene. New Dell desk top got here Thursday. So the countdown begins. Its
    > now day 3 and so far Wife has not noticed it's a new computer. I have seen
    > her look at it kind of funny a couple times but so far no "hey, this is a
    > different computer".


    Thanks for the update.

    Maybe I'll sneak a text message to your wife so she can surprise you by
    noticing :)

    Of course I won't do that (for one thing, I can't, obviously).

    I notice in another post of yours in this thread that the countdown is
    up to 4 days. Cool.

    --
    Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)
     
  15. Alex Clayton

    Alex Clayton Flightless Bird

    "Sunny Bard" <sunnybard@txinfo.org> wrote in message
    news:i7nmgn$dus$1@sunnybard.eternal-september.org...
    > Alex Clayton wrote:


    >
    > She's waiting for the credit card statement to arrive so she decide how
    > close to death she'll flame you ...


    It's already paid for. Thing was only a little over $600.00 on a good sale.
    --
    "Everything in excess! To enjoy the flavor of life, take big bites.
    Moderation is for monks."

    [Lazarus Long]
     
  16. Alex Clayton

    Alex Clayton Flightless Bird

    "Dave" <dave@unknown.invalid> wrote in message
    news:AaOdnQEIFtYtmT3RnZ2dnUVZ_q-dnZ2d@sigecom.net...

    >>
    >>

    >
    > Alex,
    > Great to see another advocate of the philosophy that saves a marriage. =D
    > Hope you make it to many more days, that will give you time to practice
    > your begging skills. Best one I ever managed to get over was a new car for
    > my wife. Needless to say I didn't have to beg long on that one. =D
    > Dave


    LOL, yes with something like this it is of course a little easier though
    since this is something she uses too.
    --
    There are three kinds of men: The ones that learn by reading. The few who
    learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence and
    find out for themselves.
    Will Rogers
     

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