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What kind of 2.5" HD adapter do I need?

Discussion in 'Notebooks' started by ZalekBloom@hotmail.com, Jan 16, 2010.

  1. ZalekBloom@hotmail.com

    ZalekBloom@hotmail.com Flightless Bird

    Hello,

    I decided to replace HD in my laptop. It is HP Pavilion DV2000. I need
    some kind of adapter to connect it to my desktop (my desktop have SATA
    and IDE drives) to clone the old HD to a new one.
    It says my disk is SATA Serial - but I see it is not regular SATA
    adapter.
    Here are pictures of my HD:
    http://www.evkosystems.kgbinternet.com/PC-problems/HP-test1.jpg
    http://www.evkosystems.kgbinternet.com/PC-problems/HP-test3.jpg
    http://www.evkosystems.kgbinternet.com/PC-problems/HP-test4.jpg

    Any idea what kind adapter do I need?

    Thanks,

    Zalek
     
  2. Paul

    Paul Flightless Bird

    ZalekBloom@hotmail.com wrote:
    > Hello,
    >
    > I decided to replace HD in my laptop. It is HP Pavilion DV2000. I need
    > some kind of adapter to connect it to my desktop (my desktop have SATA
    > and IDE drives) to clone the old HD to a new one.
    > It says my disk is SATA Serial - but I see it is not regular SATA
    > adapter.
    > Here are pictures of my HD:
    > http://www.evkosystems.kgbinternet.com/PC-problems/HP-test1.jpg
    > http://www.evkosystems.kgbinternet.com/PC-problems/HP-test3.jpg
    > http://www.evkosystems.kgbinternet.com/PC-problems/HP-test4.jpg
    >
    > Any idea what kind adapter do I need?
    >
    > Thanks,
    >
    > Zalek


    Looks like SATA. Comparing this picture of the MHV2100BH from the
    Newegg site, I'd say there is some kind of adapter in place on the
    drive you've got there (in your HP-test4.jpg). Maybe it unplugs to
    reveal the normal SATA interface ?

    http://images17.newegg.com/is/image/newegg/22-116-018-S02?$S640W$

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822116018

    Paul
     
  3. Barry Watzman

    Barry Watzman Flightless Bird

    The DRIVE is a standard SATA drive. However I think you have some kind
    of interface adapter present on the drive to mate it to the laptop.
    Remove the interface adapter.


    ZalekBloom@hotmail.com wrote:
    > Hello,
    >
    > I decided to replace HD in my laptop. It is HP Pavilion DV2000. I need
    > some kind of adapter to connect it to my desktop (my desktop have SATA
    > and IDE drives) to clone the old HD to a new one.
    > It says my disk is SATA Serial - but I see it is not regular SATA
    > adapter.
    > Here are pictures of my HD:
    > http://www.evkosystems.kgbinternet.com/PC-problems/HP-test1.jpg
    > http://www.evkosystems.kgbinternet.com/PC-problems/HP-test3.jpg
    > http://www.evkosystems.kgbinternet.com/PC-problems/HP-test4.jpg
    >
    > Any idea what kind adapter do I need?
    >
    > Thanks,
    >
    > Zalek
     
  4. Roger Mills

    Roger Mills Flightless Bird

    In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
    ZalekBloom@hotmail.com <ZalekBloom@hotmail.com> wrote:

    > Hello,
    >
    > I decided to replace HD in my laptop. It is HP Pavilion DV2000. I need
    > some kind of adapter to connect it to my desktop (my desktop have SATA
    > and IDE drives) to clone the old HD to a new one.
    > It says my disk is SATA Serial - but I see it is not regular SATA
    > adapter.
    > Here are pictures of my HD:
    > http://www.evkosystems.kgbinternet.com/PC-problems/HP-test1.jpg
    > http://www.evkosystems.kgbinternet.com/PC-problems/HP-test3.jpg
    > http://www.evkosystems.kgbinternet.com/PC-problems/HP-test4.jpg
    >
    > Any idea what kind adapter do I need?
    >
    > Thanks,
    >
    > Zalek


    Can you not network your laptop and desktop with an ethernet cable?[1] You
    can then use Ghost (or equivalent) to make an image of the laptop's old HD
    on the desktop - then replace the HD and and clone the image onto the new
    one. That's whet I did when I upgraded my laptop's HD.

    [You'll need to create a bootable system on a floppy (or other bootable
    media recognised by the laptop's BIOS) containing PC-DOS, Ghost.exe and
    support for a network connection].

    [1] If it's a direct connection, you'll need a crossover cable but it goes
    via a hub or wired router, you won't.
    --
    Cheers,
    Roger
    ______
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    monitored.. Messages sent to it may not be read for several weeks.
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  5. BillW50

    BillW50 Flightless Bird

    In news:7rg7dkF6urU1@mid.individual.net,
    Roger Mills typed on Sun, 17 Jan 2010 10:34:30 -0000:
    > [You'll need to create a bootable system on a floppy (or other
    > bootable media recognised by the laptop's BIOS) containing PC-DOS,
    > Ghost.exe and support for a network connection].


    What version of Ghost are you running that runs under DOS? As all later
    versions runs under Windows or Windows PE (aka BartPE or WinPE) and are
    known as Ghost32. Does Ghost for DOS understand NTFS formats?

    --
    Bill
    Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Windows XP SP3
     
  6. Roger Mills

    Roger Mills Flightless Bird

    In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
    BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:

    > In news:7rg7dkF6urU1@mid.individual.net,
    > Roger Mills typed on Sun, 17 Jan 2010 10:34:30 -0000:
    >> [You'll need to create a bootable system on a floppy (or other
    >> bootable media recognised by the laptop's BIOS) containing PC-DOS,
    >> Ghost.exe and support for a network connection].

    >
    > What version of Ghost are you running that runs under DOS? As all
    > later versions runs under Windows or Windows PE (aka BartPE or WinPE)
    > and are known as Ghost32. Does Ghost for DOS understand NTFS formats?



    I'm running Norton Ghost 2003 - and, yes, it understands NTFS. You can run
    some functions under Windows, but have to resort to a version running from a
    bootable DOS device to make an image of a system disk [1]. If you back up to
    another machine over a network, the other machine can be running Windows.

    [I'm not quite sure how you would clone a *live* Windows system, 'cos you'd
    be aiming at a moving target!]

    [1] You create the bootable system from within the Windows version,
    specifiying what support you need for USB, Firewire or network devices so
    that it includes the required drivers.
    --
    Cheers,
    Roger
    ______
    Email address maintained for newsgroup use only, and not regularly
    monitored.. Messages sent to it may not be read for several weeks.
    PLEASE REPLY TO NEWSGROUP!
     
  7. BillW50

    BillW50 Flightless Bird

    In news:7rgq2rFj2mU1@mid.individual.net,
    Roger Mills typed on Sun, 17 Jan 2010 15:53:01 -0000:
    > In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
    > BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:
    >
    >> In news:7rg7dkF6urU1@mid.individual.net,
    >> Roger Mills typed on Sun, 17 Jan 2010 10:34:30 -0000:
    >>> [You'll need to create a bootable system on a floppy (or other
    >>> bootable media recognised by the laptop's BIOS) containing PC-DOS,
    >>> Ghost.exe and support for a network connection].

    >>
    >> What version of Ghost are you running that runs under DOS? As all
    >> later versions runs under Windows or Windows PE (aka BartPE or WinPE)
    >> and are known as Ghost32. Does Ghost for DOS understand NTFS formats?

    >
    > I'm running Norton Ghost 2003 - and, yes, it understands NTFS. You
    > can run some functions under Windows, but have to resort to a version
    > running from a bootable DOS device to make an image of a system disk
    > [1]. If you back up to another machine over a network, the other
    > machine can be running Windows.
    > [I'm not quite sure how you would clone a *live* Windows system, 'cos
    > you'd be aiming at a moving target!]
    >
    > [1] You create the bootable system from within the Windows version,
    > specifiying what support you need for USB, Firewire or network
    > devices so that it includes the required drivers.


    Oh so you have both Ghost.exe and Ghost32.exe with Ghost 2003, right?

    The trick to clone a live Windows is sometimes done through Windows VSS
    (services). Sometimes third party backup programs use their own version
    of the service.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_Copy

    I have used many different backup programs like Acronis True Image and
    Paragon. And when they work, they work well. But they don't work in all
    conditions especially when restoring. Ghost is the only one that has
    worked under all conditions so far. The only time Ghost messed up for me
    was for Linux. But that could have been my fault for not cloning all
    partitions.

    I don't recall which version of Ghost started to need .NET2, but it was
    somewhere around 2003 I believe. But Ghost.exe and Ghost32.exe don't
    obviously. ;-)

    --
    Bill
    Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Windows XP SP3
     
  8. Sjouke Burry

    Sjouke Burry Flightless Bird

    BillW50 wrote:
    > In news:7rg7dkF6urU1@mid.individual.net,
    > Roger Mills typed on Sun, 17 Jan 2010 10:34:30 -0000:
    >> [You'll need to create a bootable system on a floppy (or other
    >> bootable media recognised by the laptop's BIOS) containing PC-DOS,
    >> Ghost.exe and support for a network connection].

    >
    > What version of Ghost are you running that runs under DOS? As all later
    > versions runs under Windows or Windows PE (aka BartPE or WinPE) and are
    > known as Ghost32. Does Ghost for DOS understand NTFS formats?
    >

    Ghost2003 runs on freedos form a bootable CD, and
    does a fine job of making an image copy of an ntfs OS drive.
     
  9. Roger Mills

    Roger Mills Flightless Bird

    In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
    BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:

    >
    > Oh so you have both Ghost.exe and Ghost32.exe with Ghost 2003, right?
    >


    Dunno! Can't find Ghost32.exe per se in the Ghost folder in Program Files -
    although there are lots of .exe files whose names start with Ghost - like
    GhostStart.exe - and there's a file called gdisk32.exe

    --
    Cheers,
    Roger
    ______
    Email address maintained for newsgroup use only, and not regularly
    monitored.. Messages sent to it may not be read for several weeks.
    PLEASE REPLY TO NEWSGROUP!
     
  10. BillW50

    BillW50 Flightless Bird

    In news:7rh6fqFvohU1@mid.individual.net,
    Roger Mills typed on Sun, 17 Jan 2010 19:24:45 -0000:
    > In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
    > BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:
    >
    >> Oh so you have both Ghost.exe and Ghost32.exe with Ghost 2003, right?

    >
    > Dunno! Can't find Ghost32.exe per se in the Ghost folder in Program
    > Files - although there are lots of .exe files whose names start with
    > Ghost - like GhostStart.exe - and there's a file called gdisk32.exe


    Maybe it is only there for the versions that uses WinPE boot disc
    instead of DOS boot disc.

    --
    Bill
    Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Windows XP SP3
     
  11. BillW50

    BillW50 Flightless Bird

    In news:4b534674$0$14132$703f8584@textnews.kpn.nl,
    Sjouke Burry typed on Sun, 17 Jan 2010 18:18:44 +0100:
    > Ghost2003 runs on freedos form a bootable CD, and
    > does a fine job of making an image copy of an ntfs OS drive.


    Many thanks Sjouke.

    --
    Bill
    Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Windows XP SP3
     
  12. ~misfit~

    ~misfit~ Flightless Bird

    Somewhere on teh intarwebs Paul wrote:
    > ZalekBloom@hotmail.com wrote:
    >> Hello,
    >>
    >> I decided to replace HD in my laptop. It is HP Pavilion DV2000. I
    >> need some kind of adapter to connect it to my desktop (my desktop
    >> have SATA and IDE drives) to clone the old HD to a new one.
    >> It says my disk is SATA Serial - but I see it is not regular SATA
    >> adapter.
    >> Here are pictures of my HD:
    >> http://www.evkosystems.kgbinternet.com/PC-problems/HP-test1.jpg
    >> http://www.evkosystems.kgbinternet.com/PC-problems/HP-test3.jpg
    >> http://www.evkosystems.kgbinternet.com/PC-problems/HP-test4.jpg
    >>
    >> Any idea what kind adapter do I need?
    >>
    >> Thanks,
    >>
    >> Zalek

    >
    > Looks like SATA. Comparing this picture of the MHV2100BH from the
    > Newegg site, I'd say there is some kind of adapter in place on the
    > drive you've got there (in your HP-test4.jpg). Maybe it unplugs to
    > reveal the normal SATA interface ?
    >
    > http://images17.newegg.com/is/image/newegg/22-116-018-S02?$S640W$
    >
    > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822116018


    That is so typical of HP / Compaq, adding another part that can go wrong
    when the sata interface itself is designed for multiple insertions.

    And if you don't believe that a simple passive adapter like that can go
    wrong I've got a half-dozen HP/Compaq adapters from PATA HDDs that no longer
    work. It was a real puzzle when I struck the first one and took me a while
    to decide to buy a new adapter as I wasn't sure....

    I've had quite a few go bad since then (of various types) and I dare say
    these SATA ones will be the same. A money-spinner for HP.
    --
    Shaun.

    "Give a man a fire and he's warm for the day. But set fire to him and he's
    warm for the rest of his life." Terry Pratchet, 'Jingo'.
     
  13. M.I.5¾

    M.I.5¾ Flightless Bird

    <ZalekBloom@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:8vo4l5h1svjutu33kcp12fdbcn9aqpggn9@4ax.com...
    > Hello,
    >
    > I decided to replace HD in my laptop. It is HP Pavilion DV2000. I need
    > some kind of adapter to connect it to my desktop (my desktop have SATA
    > and IDE drives) to clone the old HD to a new one.
    > It says my disk is SATA Serial - but I see it is not regular SATA
    > adapter.
    > Here are pictures of my HD:
    > http://www.evkosystems.kgbinternet.com/PC-problems/HP-test1.jpg
    > http://www.evkosystems.kgbinternet.com/PC-problems/HP-test3.jpg
    > http://www.evkosystems.kgbinternet.com/PC-problems/HP-test4.jpg
    >
    > Any idea what kind adapter do I need?
    >


    The connector shown in your third link is an adapter. It either just pulls
    off or requires the removal of a screw from each end (you photo didn't quite
    inlcude enough).

    Once the adapter is removed, the disc drive will have a standard SATA
    interface connector on it and any SATA adapter will work.
     
  14. ~misfit~

    ~misfit~ Flightless Bird

    Somewhere on teh intarwebs M.I.5¾ wrote:
    > <ZalekBloom@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:8vo4l5h1svjutu33kcp12fdbcn9aqpggn9@4ax.com...
    >> Hello,
    >>
    >> I decided to replace HD in my laptop. It is HP Pavilion DV2000. I
    >> need some kind of adapter to connect it to my desktop (my desktop
    >> have SATA and IDE drives) to clone the old HD to a new one.
    >> It says my disk is SATA Serial - but I see it is not regular SATA
    >> adapter.
    >> Here are pictures of my HD:
    >> http://www.evkosystems.kgbinternet.com/PC-problems/HP-test1.jpg
    >> http://www.evkosystems.kgbinternet.com/PC-problems/HP-test3.jpg
    >> http://www.evkosystems.kgbinternet.com/PC-problems/HP-test4.jpg
    >>
    >> Any idea what kind adapter do I need?
    >>

    >
    > The connector shown in your third link is an adapter. It either just
    > pulls off or requires the removal of a screw from each end (you photo
    > didn't quite inlcude enough).
    >
    > Once the adapter is removed, the disc drive will have a standard SATA
    > interface connector on it and any SATA adapter will work.


    He means any SATA HDD should work (with the adapter fitted). ;-)
    --
    Shaun.

    "Give a man a fire and he's warm for the day. But set fire to him and he's
    warm for the rest of his life." Terry Pratchet, 'Jingo'.
     
  15. ~misfit~

    ~misfit~ Flightless Bird

    Somewhere on teh intarwebs ~misfit~ wrote:
    > Somewhere on teh intarwebs Paul wrote:
    >> ZalekBloom@hotmail.com wrote:
    >>> Hello,
    >>>
    >>> I decided to replace HD in my laptop. It is HP Pavilion DV2000. I
    >>> need some kind of adapter to connect it to my desktop (my desktop
    >>> have SATA and IDE drives) to clone the old HD to a new one.
    >>> It says my disk is SATA Serial - but I see it is not regular SATA
    >>> adapter.
    >>> Here are pictures of my HD:
    >>> http://www.evkosystems.kgbinternet.com/PC-problems/HP-test1.jpg
    >>> http://www.evkosystems.kgbinternet.com/PC-problems/HP-test3.jpg
    >>> http://www.evkosystems.kgbinternet.com/PC-problems/HP-test4.jpg
    >>>
    >>> Any idea what kind adapter do I need?
    >>>
    >>> Thanks,
    >>>
    >>> Zalek

    >>
    >> Looks like SATA. Comparing this picture of the MHV2100BH from the
    >> Newegg site, I'd say there is some kind of adapter in place on the
    >> drive you've got there (in your HP-test4.jpg). Maybe it unplugs to
    >> reveal the normal SATA interface ?
    >>
    >> http://images17.newegg.com/is/image/newegg/22-116-018-S02?$S640W$
    >>
    >> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822116018

    >
    > That is so typical of HP / Compaq, adding another part that can go
    > wrong when the sata interface itself is designed for multiple
    > insertions.
    > And if you don't believe that a simple passive adapter like that can
    > go wrong I've got a half-dozen HP/Compaq adapters from PATA HDDs that
    > no longer work. It was a real puzzle when I struck the first one and
    > took me a while to decide to buy a new adapter as I wasn't sure....
    >
    > I've had quite a few go bad since then (of various types) and I dare
    > say these SATA ones will be the same. A money-spinner for HP.


    Actually Zalek, why do you need to replace the HDD? If it's because it's
    malfunctioning there's a chance that it could be the adapter that's stuffed
    rather than the HDD. Worth bearing in mind.
    --
    Shaun.

    "Give a man a fire and he's warm for the day. But set fire to him and he's
    warm for the rest of his life." Terry Pratchet, 'Jingo'.
     
  16. M.I.5¾

    M.I.5¾ Flightless Bird

    "~misfit~" <sore_n_happy@yahoo-nospam.com.au> wrote in message
    news:hj2rub$jeu$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    > Somewhere on teh intarwebs M.I.5¾ wrote:
    >> <ZalekBloom@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    >> news:8vo4l5h1svjutu33kcp12fdbcn9aqpggn9@4ax.com...
    >>> Hello,
    >>>
    >>> I decided to replace HD in my laptop. It is HP Pavilion DV2000. I
    >>> need some kind of adapter to connect it to my desktop (my desktop
    >>> have SATA and IDE drives) to clone the old HD to a new one.
    >>> It says my disk is SATA Serial - but I see it is not regular SATA
    >>> adapter.
    >>> Here are pictures of my HD:
    >>> http://www.evkosystems.kgbinternet.com/PC-problems/HP-test1.jpg
    >>> http://www.evkosystems.kgbinternet.com/PC-problems/HP-test3.jpg
    >>> http://www.evkosystems.kgbinternet.com/PC-problems/HP-test4.jpg
    >>>
    >>> Any idea what kind adapter do I need?
    >>>

    >>
    >> The connector shown in your third link is an adapter. It either just
    >> pulls off or requires the removal of a screw from each end (you photo
    >> didn't quite inlcude enough).
    >>
    >> Once the adapter is removed, the disc drive will have a standard SATA
    >> interface connector on it and any SATA adapter will work.

    >
    > He means any SATA HDD should work (with the adapter fitted). ;-)
    >


    The OP stated that he wished to connect the removed drive to his desktop, so
    I meant exactly what I said.
     
  17. ~misfit~

    ~misfit~ Flightless Bird

    Somewhere on teh intarwebs M.I.5¾ wrote:
    > "~misfit~" <sore_n_happy@yahoo-nospam.com.au> wrote in message
    > news:hj2rub$jeu$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    >> Somewhere on teh intarwebs M.I.5¾ wrote:
    >>> <ZalekBloom@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    >>> news:8vo4l5h1svjutu33kcp12fdbcn9aqpggn9@4ax.com...
    >>>> Hello,
    >>>>
    >>>> I decided to replace HD in my laptop. It is HP Pavilion DV2000. I
    >>>> need some kind of adapter to connect it to my desktop (my desktop
    >>>> have SATA and IDE drives) to clone the old HD to a new one.
    >>>> It says my disk is SATA Serial - but I see it is not regular SATA
    >>>> adapter.
    >>>> Here are pictures of my HD:
    >>>> http://www.evkosystems.kgbinternet.com/PC-problems/HP-test1.jpg
    >>>> http://www.evkosystems.kgbinternet.com/PC-problems/HP-test3.jpg
    >>>> http://www.evkosystems.kgbinternet.com/PC-problems/HP-test4.jpg
    >>>>
    >>>> Any idea what kind adapter do I need?
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>> The connector shown in your third link is an adapter. It either
    >>> just pulls off or requires the removal of a screw from each end
    >>> (you photo didn't quite inlcude enough).
    >>>
    >>> Once the adapter is removed, the disc drive will have a standard
    >>> SATA interface connector on it and any SATA adapter will work.

    >>
    >> He means any SATA HDD should work (with the adapter fitted). ;-)

    >
    > The OP stated that he wished to connect the removed drive to his
    > desktop, so I meant exactly what I said.


    My bad. When you wrote "SATA adapter" (I would have said "SATA cable" as
    nothing needs to be 'adapted',) I thought you were talking the other way....
    --
    Shaun.

    "Give a man a fire and he's warm for the day. But set fire to him and he's
    warm for the rest of his life." Terry Pratchet, 'Jingo'.
     

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