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What kind of 2.5" HD adapter do I need?

  • Thread starter ZalekBloom@hotmail.com
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ZalekBloom@hotmail.com

Flightless Bird
Hello,

I decided to replace HD in my laptop. It is HP Pavilion DV2000. I need
some kind of adapter to connect it to my desktop (my desktop have SATA
and IDE drives) to clone the old HD to a new one.
It says my disk is SATA Serial - but I see it is not regular SATA
adapter.
Here are pictures of my HD:
http://www.evkosystems.kgbinternet.com/PC-problems/HP-test1.jpg
http://www.evkosystems.kgbinternet.com/PC-problems/HP-test3.jpg
http://www.evkosystems.kgbinternet.com/PC-problems/HP-test4.jpg

Any idea what kind adapter do I need?

Thanks,

Zalek
 
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Paul

Flightless Bird
ZalekBloom@hotmail.com wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I decided to replace HD in my laptop. It is HP Pavilion DV2000. I need
> some kind of adapter to connect it to my desktop (my desktop have SATA
> and IDE drives) to clone the old HD to a new one.
> It says my disk is SATA Serial - but I see it is not regular SATA
> adapter.
> Here are pictures of my HD:
> http://www.evkosystems.kgbinternet.com/PC-problems/HP-test1.jpg
> http://www.evkosystems.kgbinternet.com/PC-problems/HP-test3.jpg
> http://www.evkosystems.kgbinternet.com/PC-problems/HP-test4.jpg
>
> Any idea what kind adapter do I need?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Zalek


Looks like SATA. Comparing this picture of the MHV2100BH from the
Newegg site, I'd say there is some kind of adapter in place on the
drive you've got there (in your HP-test4.jpg). Maybe it unplugs to
reveal the normal SATA interface ?

http://images17.newegg.com/is/image/newegg/22-116-018-S02?$S640W$

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822116018

Paul
 
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Barry Watzman

Flightless Bird
The DRIVE is a standard SATA drive. However I think you have some kind
of interface adapter present on the drive to mate it to the laptop.
Remove the interface adapter.


ZalekBloom@hotmail.com wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I decided to replace HD in my laptop. It is HP Pavilion DV2000. I need
> some kind of adapter to connect it to my desktop (my desktop have SATA
> and IDE drives) to clone the old HD to a new one.
> It says my disk is SATA Serial - but I see it is not regular SATA
> adapter.
> Here are pictures of my HD:
> http://www.evkosystems.kgbinternet.com/PC-problems/HP-test1.jpg
> http://www.evkosystems.kgbinternet.com/PC-problems/HP-test3.jpg
> http://www.evkosystems.kgbinternet.com/PC-problems/HP-test4.jpg
>
> Any idea what kind adapter do I need?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Zalek
 
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Roger Mills

Flightless Bird
In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
ZalekBloom@hotmail.com <ZalekBloom@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I decided to replace HD in my laptop. It is HP Pavilion DV2000. I need
> some kind of adapter to connect it to my desktop (my desktop have SATA
> and IDE drives) to clone the old HD to a new one.
> It says my disk is SATA Serial - but I see it is not regular SATA
> adapter.
> Here are pictures of my HD:
> http://www.evkosystems.kgbinternet.com/PC-problems/HP-test1.jpg
> http://www.evkosystems.kgbinternet.com/PC-problems/HP-test3.jpg
> http://www.evkosystems.kgbinternet.com/PC-problems/HP-test4.jpg
>
> Any idea what kind adapter do I need?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Zalek


Can you not network your laptop and desktop with an ethernet cable?[1] You
can then use Ghost (or equivalent) to make an image of the laptop's old HD
on the desktop - then replace the HD and and clone the image onto the new
one. That's whet I did when I upgraded my laptop's HD.

[You'll need to create a bootable system on a floppy (or other bootable
media recognised by the laptop's BIOS) containing PC-DOS, Ghost.exe and
support for a network connection].

[1] If it's a direct connection, you'll need a crossover cable but it goes
via a hub or wired router, you won't.
--
Cheers,
Roger
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BillW50

Flightless Bird
In news:7rg7dkF6urU1@mid.individual.net,
Roger Mills typed on Sun, 17 Jan 2010 10:34:30 -0000:
> [You'll need to create a bootable system on a floppy (or other
> bootable media recognised by the laptop's BIOS) containing PC-DOS,
> Ghost.exe and support for a network connection].


What version of Ghost are you running that runs under DOS? As all later
versions runs under Windows or Windows PE (aka BartPE or WinPE) and are
known as Ghost32. Does Ghost for DOS understand NTFS formats?

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Windows XP SP3
 
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Roger Mills

Flightless Bird
In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:

> In news:7rg7dkF6urU1@mid.individual.net,
> Roger Mills typed on Sun, 17 Jan 2010 10:34:30 -0000:
>> [You'll need to create a bootable system on a floppy (or other
>> bootable media recognised by the laptop's BIOS) containing PC-DOS,
>> Ghost.exe and support for a network connection].

>
> What version of Ghost are you running that runs under DOS? As all
> later versions runs under Windows or Windows PE (aka BartPE or WinPE)
> and are known as Ghost32. Does Ghost for DOS understand NTFS formats?



I'm running Norton Ghost 2003 - and, yes, it understands NTFS. You can run
some functions under Windows, but have to resort to a version running from a
bootable DOS device to make an image of a system disk [1]. If you back up to
another machine over a network, the other machine can be running Windows.

[I'm not quite sure how you would clone a *live* Windows system, 'cos you'd
be aiming at a moving target!]

[1] You create the bootable system from within the Windows version,
specifiying what support you need for USB, Firewire or network devices so
that it includes the required drivers.
--
Cheers,
Roger
______
Email address maintained for newsgroup use only, and not regularly
monitored.. Messages sent to it may not be read for several weeks.
PLEASE REPLY TO NEWSGROUP!
 
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BillW50

Flightless Bird
In news:7rgq2rFj2mU1@mid.individual.net,
Roger Mills typed on Sun, 17 Jan 2010 15:53:01 -0000:
> In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
> BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:
>
>> In news:7rg7dkF6urU1@mid.individual.net,
>> Roger Mills typed on Sun, 17 Jan 2010 10:34:30 -0000:
>>> [You'll need to create a bootable system on a floppy (or other
>>> bootable media recognised by the laptop's BIOS) containing PC-DOS,
>>> Ghost.exe and support for a network connection].

>>
>> What version of Ghost are you running that runs under DOS? As all
>> later versions runs under Windows or Windows PE (aka BartPE or WinPE)
>> and are known as Ghost32. Does Ghost for DOS understand NTFS formats?

>
> I'm running Norton Ghost 2003 - and, yes, it understands NTFS. You
> can run some functions under Windows, but have to resort to a version
> running from a bootable DOS device to make an image of a system disk
> [1]. If you back up to another machine over a network, the other
> machine can be running Windows.
> [I'm not quite sure how you would clone a *live* Windows system, 'cos
> you'd be aiming at a moving target!]
>
> [1] You create the bootable system from within the Windows version,
> specifiying what support you need for USB, Firewire or network
> devices so that it includes the required drivers.


Oh so you have both Ghost.exe and Ghost32.exe with Ghost 2003, right?

The trick to clone a live Windows is sometimes done through Windows VSS
(services). Sometimes third party backup programs use their own version
of the service.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_Copy

I have used many different backup programs like Acronis True Image and
Paragon. And when they work, they work well. But they don't work in all
conditions especially when restoring. Ghost is the only one that has
worked under all conditions so far. The only time Ghost messed up for me
was for Linux. But that could have been my fault for not cloning all
partitions.

I don't recall which version of Ghost started to need .NET2, but it was
somewhere around 2003 I believe. But Ghost.exe and Ghost32.exe don't
obviously. ;-)

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Windows XP SP3
 
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Sjouke Burry

Flightless Bird
BillW50 wrote:
> In news:7rg7dkF6urU1@mid.individual.net,
> Roger Mills typed on Sun, 17 Jan 2010 10:34:30 -0000:
>> [You'll need to create a bootable system on a floppy (or other
>> bootable media recognised by the laptop's BIOS) containing PC-DOS,
>> Ghost.exe and support for a network connection].

>
> What version of Ghost are you running that runs under DOS? As all later
> versions runs under Windows or Windows PE (aka BartPE or WinPE) and are
> known as Ghost32. Does Ghost for DOS understand NTFS formats?
>

Ghost2003 runs on freedos form a bootable CD, and
does a fine job of making an image copy of an ntfs OS drive.
 
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Roger Mills

Flightless Bird
In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:

>
> Oh so you have both Ghost.exe and Ghost32.exe with Ghost 2003, right?
>


Dunno! Can't find Ghost32.exe per se in the Ghost folder in Program Files -
although there are lots of .exe files whose names start with Ghost - like
GhostStart.exe - and there's a file called gdisk32.exe

--
Cheers,
Roger
______
Email address maintained for newsgroup use only, and not regularly
monitored.. Messages sent to it may not be read for several weeks.
PLEASE REPLY TO NEWSGROUP!
 
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BillW50

Flightless Bird
In news:7rh6fqFvohU1@mid.individual.net,
Roger Mills typed on Sun, 17 Jan 2010 19:24:45 -0000:
> In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
> BillW50 <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote:
>
>> Oh so you have both Ghost.exe and Ghost32.exe with Ghost 2003, right?

>
> Dunno! Can't find Ghost32.exe per se in the Ghost folder in Program
> Files - although there are lots of .exe files whose names start with
> Ghost - like GhostStart.exe - and there's a file called gdisk32.exe


Maybe it is only there for the versions that uses WinPE boot disc
instead of DOS boot disc.

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Windows XP SP3
 
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BillW50

Flightless Bird
In news:4b534674$0$14132$703f8584@textnews.kpn.nl,
Sjouke Burry typed on Sun, 17 Jan 2010 18:18:44 +0100:
> Ghost2003 runs on freedos form a bootable CD, and
> does a fine job of making an image copy of an ntfs OS drive.


Many thanks Sjouke.

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Windows XP SP3
 
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~misfit~

Flightless Bird
Somewhere on teh intarwebs Paul wrote:
> ZalekBloom@hotmail.com wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I decided to replace HD in my laptop. It is HP Pavilion DV2000. I
>> need some kind of adapter to connect it to my desktop (my desktop
>> have SATA and IDE drives) to clone the old HD to a new one.
>> It says my disk is SATA Serial - but I see it is not regular SATA
>> adapter.
>> Here are pictures of my HD:
>> http://www.evkosystems.kgbinternet.com/PC-problems/HP-test1.jpg
>> http://www.evkosystems.kgbinternet.com/PC-problems/HP-test3.jpg
>> http://www.evkosystems.kgbinternet.com/PC-problems/HP-test4.jpg
>>
>> Any idea what kind adapter do I need?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Zalek

>
> Looks like SATA. Comparing this picture of the MHV2100BH from the
> Newegg site, I'd say there is some kind of adapter in place on the
> drive you've got there (in your HP-test4.jpg). Maybe it unplugs to
> reveal the normal SATA interface ?
>
> http://images17.newegg.com/is/image/newegg/22-116-018-S02?$S640W$
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822116018


That is so typical of HP / Compaq, adding another part that can go wrong
when the sata interface itself is designed for multiple insertions.

And if you don't believe that a simple passive adapter like that can go
wrong I've got a half-dozen HP/Compaq adapters from PATA HDDs that no longer
work. It was a real puzzle when I struck the first one and took me a while
to decide to buy a new adapter as I wasn't sure....

I've had quite a few go bad since then (of various types) and I dare say
these SATA ones will be the same. A money-spinner for HP.
--
Shaun.

"Give a man a fire and he's warm for the day. But set fire to him and he's
warm for the rest of his life." Terry Pratchet, 'Jingo'.
 
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M.I.5¾

Flightless Bird
<ZalekBloom@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:8vo4l5h1svjutu33kcp12fdbcn9aqpggn9@4ax.com...
> Hello,
>
> I decided to replace HD in my laptop. It is HP Pavilion DV2000. I need
> some kind of adapter to connect it to my desktop (my desktop have SATA
> and IDE drives) to clone the old HD to a new one.
> It says my disk is SATA Serial - but I see it is not regular SATA
> adapter.
> Here are pictures of my HD:
> http://www.evkosystems.kgbinternet.com/PC-problems/HP-test1.jpg
> http://www.evkosystems.kgbinternet.com/PC-problems/HP-test3.jpg
> http://www.evkosystems.kgbinternet.com/PC-problems/HP-test4.jpg
>
> Any idea what kind adapter do I need?
>


The connector shown in your third link is an adapter. It either just pulls
off or requires the removal of a screw from each end (you photo didn't quite
inlcude enough).

Once the adapter is removed, the disc drive will have a standard SATA
interface connector on it and any SATA adapter will work.
 
M

~misfit~

Flightless Bird
Somewhere on teh intarwebs M.I.5¾ wrote:
> <ZalekBloom@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:8vo4l5h1svjutu33kcp12fdbcn9aqpggn9@4ax.com...
>> Hello,
>>
>> I decided to replace HD in my laptop. It is HP Pavilion DV2000. I
>> need some kind of adapter to connect it to my desktop (my desktop
>> have SATA and IDE drives) to clone the old HD to a new one.
>> It says my disk is SATA Serial - but I see it is not regular SATA
>> adapter.
>> Here are pictures of my HD:
>> http://www.evkosystems.kgbinternet.com/PC-problems/HP-test1.jpg
>> http://www.evkosystems.kgbinternet.com/PC-problems/HP-test3.jpg
>> http://www.evkosystems.kgbinternet.com/PC-problems/HP-test4.jpg
>>
>> Any idea what kind adapter do I need?
>>

>
> The connector shown in your third link is an adapter. It either just
> pulls off or requires the removal of a screw from each end (you photo
> didn't quite inlcude enough).
>
> Once the adapter is removed, the disc drive will have a standard SATA
> interface connector on it and any SATA adapter will work.


He means any SATA HDD should work (with the adapter fitted). ;-)
--
Shaun.

"Give a man a fire and he's warm for the day. But set fire to him and he's
warm for the rest of his life." Terry Pratchet, 'Jingo'.
 
M

~misfit~

Flightless Bird
Somewhere on teh intarwebs ~misfit~ wrote:
> Somewhere on teh intarwebs Paul wrote:
>> ZalekBloom@hotmail.com wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I decided to replace HD in my laptop. It is HP Pavilion DV2000. I
>>> need some kind of adapter to connect it to my desktop (my desktop
>>> have SATA and IDE drives) to clone the old HD to a new one.
>>> It says my disk is SATA Serial - but I see it is not regular SATA
>>> adapter.
>>> Here are pictures of my HD:
>>> http://www.evkosystems.kgbinternet.com/PC-problems/HP-test1.jpg
>>> http://www.evkosystems.kgbinternet.com/PC-problems/HP-test3.jpg
>>> http://www.evkosystems.kgbinternet.com/PC-problems/HP-test4.jpg
>>>
>>> Any idea what kind adapter do I need?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Zalek

>>
>> Looks like SATA. Comparing this picture of the MHV2100BH from the
>> Newegg site, I'd say there is some kind of adapter in place on the
>> drive you've got there (in your HP-test4.jpg). Maybe it unplugs to
>> reveal the normal SATA interface ?
>>
>> http://images17.newegg.com/is/image/newegg/22-116-018-S02?$S640W$
>>
>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822116018

>
> That is so typical of HP / Compaq, adding another part that can go
> wrong when the sata interface itself is designed for multiple
> insertions.
> And if you don't believe that a simple passive adapter like that can
> go wrong I've got a half-dozen HP/Compaq adapters from PATA HDDs that
> no longer work. It was a real puzzle when I struck the first one and
> took me a while to decide to buy a new adapter as I wasn't sure....
>
> I've had quite a few go bad since then (of various types) and I dare
> say these SATA ones will be the same. A money-spinner for HP.


Actually Zalek, why do you need to replace the HDD? If it's because it's
malfunctioning there's a chance that it could be the adapter that's stuffed
rather than the HDD. Worth bearing in mind.
--
Shaun.

"Give a man a fire and he's warm for the day. But set fire to him and he's
warm for the rest of his life." Terry Pratchet, 'Jingo'.
 
M

M.I.5¾

Flightless Bird
"~misfit~" <sore_n_happy@yahoo-nospam.com.au> wrote in message
news:hj2rub$jeu$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> Somewhere on teh intarwebs M.I.5¾ wrote:
>> <ZalekBloom@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:8vo4l5h1svjutu33kcp12fdbcn9aqpggn9@4ax.com...
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I decided to replace HD in my laptop. It is HP Pavilion DV2000. I
>>> need some kind of adapter to connect it to my desktop (my desktop
>>> have SATA and IDE drives) to clone the old HD to a new one.
>>> It says my disk is SATA Serial - but I see it is not regular SATA
>>> adapter.
>>> Here are pictures of my HD:
>>> http://www.evkosystems.kgbinternet.com/PC-problems/HP-test1.jpg
>>> http://www.evkosystems.kgbinternet.com/PC-problems/HP-test3.jpg
>>> http://www.evkosystems.kgbinternet.com/PC-problems/HP-test4.jpg
>>>
>>> Any idea what kind adapter do I need?
>>>

>>
>> The connector shown in your third link is an adapter. It either just
>> pulls off or requires the removal of a screw from each end (you photo
>> didn't quite inlcude enough).
>>
>> Once the adapter is removed, the disc drive will have a standard SATA
>> interface connector on it and any SATA adapter will work.

>
> He means any SATA HDD should work (with the adapter fitted). ;-)
>


The OP stated that he wished to connect the removed drive to his desktop, so
I meant exactly what I said.
 
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~misfit~

Flightless Bird
Somewhere on teh intarwebs M.I.5¾ wrote:
> "~misfit~" <sore_n_happy@yahoo-nospam.com.au> wrote in message
> news:hj2rub$jeu$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>> Somewhere on teh intarwebs M.I.5¾ wrote:
>>> <ZalekBloom@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:8vo4l5h1svjutu33kcp12fdbcn9aqpggn9@4ax.com...
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> I decided to replace HD in my laptop. It is HP Pavilion DV2000. I
>>>> need some kind of adapter to connect it to my desktop (my desktop
>>>> have SATA and IDE drives) to clone the old HD to a new one.
>>>> It says my disk is SATA Serial - but I see it is not regular SATA
>>>> adapter.
>>>> Here are pictures of my HD:
>>>> http://www.evkosystems.kgbinternet.com/PC-problems/HP-test1.jpg
>>>> http://www.evkosystems.kgbinternet.com/PC-problems/HP-test3.jpg
>>>> http://www.evkosystems.kgbinternet.com/PC-problems/HP-test4.jpg
>>>>
>>>> Any idea what kind adapter do I need?
>>>>
>>>
>>> The connector shown in your third link is an adapter. It either
>>> just pulls off or requires the removal of a screw from each end
>>> (you photo didn't quite inlcude enough).
>>>
>>> Once the adapter is removed, the disc drive will have a standard
>>> SATA interface connector on it and any SATA adapter will work.

>>
>> He means any SATA HDD should work (with the adapter fitted). ;-)

>
> The OP stated that he wished to connect the removed drive to his
> desktop, so I meant exactly what I said.


My bad. When you wrote "SATA adapter" (I would have said "SATA cable" as
nothing needs to be 'adapted',) I thought you were talking the other way....
--
Shaun.

"Give a man a fire and he's warm for the day. But set fire to him and he's
warm for the rest of his life." Terry Pratchet, 'Jingo'.
 
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