I am curious how people wind up with viruses today, especially those with anti-virus software! I have cleaned a lot of computers up, using the ubcd4win, with great sucess, but I have never had to do this to a computer without any virus protection, whether it be CA, Symantec, Bit Defender, Macafee, probably the only software I haven't seen on any of the computers I've cleaned up is Trend Micro. Does that mean they are better then the rest? What does theirs do that the others don't? I myself have run without any antivirus software for a few months, kind of as a test & have gotten nothing. I have also ran with expired software without incident. Are my web- browsing habits just safer than most? I doubt it. I just wish I had an answer to the question that usually starts 'I have anti-virus software...'. On a lighter note, I did have one person a while back tell me they actually clicked/downloaded a file after his software warned him. His answer started with 'But I have anti-virus software on my computer...'.