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Run Windows Security & Defender together?

  • Thread starter Frederick J. Barnett
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Frederick J. Barnett

Flightless Bird
I recently switched my anti-virus to the Windows Security
Essentials. I was wondering if I need to turn Defender back on too?
The WSE didn't say either way.


Frederick J. Barnett http://www.eatel.net/~fred/
"Someone's got to take the responsibility if the job's going to get done!! Do you think that's easy?!" Gregory Peck - The Guns Of Navarone
 
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Peter Taylor

Flightless Bird
On 8/12/2010 4:26 PM, Frederick J. Barnett wrote:
> I recently switched my anti-virus to the Windows Security
> Essentials. I was wondering if I need to turn Defender back on too?

Good idea.

> The WSE didn't say either way.

It's still a good idea.

--
Peter Taylor
 
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Chris Sidener

Flightless Bird
"Peter Taylor" <noemailspam@please.com.invalid> wrote in message
news:i410iq$6tq$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> On 8/12/2010 4:26 PM, Frederick J. Barnett wrote:
>> I recently switched my anti-virus to the Windows Security
>> Essentials. I was wondering if I need to turn Defender back on too?
>
> Good idea.
>
>> The WSE didn't say either way.
>
> It's still a good idea.
>
> --
> Peter Taylor

MSE turns Defender off. It's redundant.

Chris
 
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Bruce Hagen

Flightless Bird
"Frederick J. Barnett" <fred@eatel.net> wrote in message
news:hs0866h81lne0o88mj1n8c68rb1jh0388t@4ax.com...
> I recently switched my anti-virus to the Windows Security
> Essentials. I was wondering if I need to turn Defender back on too?
> The WSE didn't say either way.
>
>
> Frederick J. Barnett http://www.eatel.net/~fred/
> "Someone's got to take the responsibility if the job's going to get
> done!! Do you think that's easy?!" Gregory Peck - The Guns Of Navarone



No. MSE includes the properties of Windows Defender and will just shut it
back down again as it is now redundant. You may as well remove WD from
your machine.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA
 
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Peter Taylor

Flightless Bird
On 8/12/2010 4:39 PM, Chris Sidener wrote:
>
> "Peter Taylor" <noemailspam@please.com.invalid> wrote in message
> news:i410iq$6tq$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>> On 8/12/2010 4:26 PM, Frederick J. Barnett wrote:
>>> I recently switched my anti-virus to the Windows Security
>>> Essentials. I was wondering if I need to turn Defender back on too?
>>
>> Good idea.
>>
>>> The WSE didn't say either way.
>>
>> It's still a good idea.
>>
>> --
>> Peter Taylor
>
> MSE turns Defender off. It's redundant.
>
> Chris
>

Oh, I didn't know that. You learn something new every day :)

--
Peter Taylor
 
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Ken Blake

Flightless Bird
On Thu, 12 Aug 2010 09:26:00 -0500, Frederick J. Barnett
<fred@eatel.net> wrote:

> I recently switched my anti-virus to the Windows Security
> Essentials. I was wondering if I need to turn Defender back on too?



You can't (and wouldn't need to if you could).

Windows Security Essentials turns Defender off, because its
capabilities are built into Windows Security Essentials.
 
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Frederick J. Barnett

Flightless Bird
That's what I wanted to know.

Thanks to everyone who replied.


Frederick J. Barnett http://www.eatel.net/~fred/
"Someone's got to take the responsibility if the job's going to get done!! Do you think that's easy?!" Gregory Peck - The Guns Of Navarone
 
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DGDevin

Flightless Bird
"Ken Blake" <kblake@this.is.invalid.com> wrote in message
news:g19866pr73l4ui3h770opci6af88bovukc@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 12 Aug 2010 09:26:00 -0500, Frederick J. Barnett
> <fred@eatel.net> wrote:
>
>> I recently switched my anti-virus to the Windows Security
>> Essentials. I was wondering if I need to turn Defender back on too?
>
>
>
> You can't (and wouldn't need to if you could).
>
> Windows Security Essentials turns Defender off, because its
> capabilities are built into Windows Security Essentials.

I was able to turn on Defender today via Action Center (with Security
Essentials running), but it was turned off again when I started the computer
later, which is apparently just as well. It would be nice if MS changed the
Defender section in Control Panel to read that Defender is automatically
turned off when Security Essentials is installed.
 
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Ken Blake

Flightless Bird
On Thu, 12 Aug 2010 23:44:24 -0700, "DGDevin"
<DGDevin@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> It would be nice if MS changed the
> Defender section in Control Panel to read that Defender is automatically
> turned off when Security Essentials is installed.



I agree!
 
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Dave \Crash\ Dummy

Flightless Bird
Ken Blake wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Aug 2010 23:44:24 -0700, "DGDevin"
> <DGDevin@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> It would be nice if MS changed the Defender section in Control
>> Panel to read that Defender is automatically turned off when
>> Security Essentials is installed.
>
> I agree!
>
Me, three. Is there any way to uninstall Defender, or is it integrated
into Security Essentials when that is installed?
--
Crash

One man's weed is another man's wildflower.
 
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Ken Blake

Flightless Bird
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 11:14:00 -0400, "Dave \"Crash\" Dummy"
<invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> Ken Blake wrote:
> > On Thu, 12 Aug 2010 23:44:24 -0700, "DGDevin"
> > <DGDevin@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> >
> >> It would be nice if MS changed the Defender section in Control
> >> Panel to read that Defender is automatically turned off when
> >> Security Essentials is installed.
> >
> > I agree!
> >
> Me, three. Is there any way to uninstall Defender, or is it integrated
> into Security Essentials when that is installed?



As I understand it, it's not that it itself is integrated into
Microsoft Security Essentials, but that Microsoft Security Essentials
contains the same functionality. So as far as I know, there's no way
to turn off that functionality in Microsoft Security Essentials.
 
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Dave \Crash\ Dummy

Flightless Bird
Ken Blake wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 11:14:00 -0400, "Dave \"Crash\" Dummy"
> <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Ken Blake wrote:
>>> On Thu, 12 Aug 2010 23:44:24 -0700, "DGDevin"
>>> <DGDevin@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> It would be nice if MS changed the Defender section in Control
>>>> Panel to read that Defender is automatically turned off when
>>>> Security Essentials is installed.
>>> I agree!
>>>
>> Me, three. Is there any way to uninstall Defender, or is it
>> integrated into Security Essentials when that is installed?
>
> As I understand it, it's not that it itself is integrated into
> Microsoft Security Essentials, but that Microsoft Security Essentials
> contains the same functionality. So as far as I know, there's no way
> to turn off that functionality in Microsoft Security Essentials.

That I get. What I am asking is if Defender is an independent
applications which can be uninstalled since MSE has taken over the job.
Defender is disabled by MSE, so why leave it installed?
--
Crash

"In politics, stupidity is not a handicap."
~ Napoleon Bonaparte ~
 
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Ken Blake

Flightless Bird
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 14:53:59 -0400, "Dave \"Crash\" Dummy"
<invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> Ken Blake wrote:

> >> Me, three. Is there any way to uninstall Defender, or is it
> >> integrated into Security Essentials when that is installed?
> >
> > As I understand it, it's not that it itself is integrated into
> > Microsoft Security Essentials, but that Microsoft Security Essentials
> > contains the same functionality. So as far as I know, there's no way
> > to turn off that functionality in Microsoft Security Essentials.
>
> That I get. What I am asking is if Defender is an independent
> applications which can be uninstalled since MSE has taken over the job.
> Defender is disabled by MSE, so why leave it installed?



Ah, I understand now. Sorry, I misunderstood you.

As far as I know, no, there's no way to uninstall it, and it's part of
Windows 7. But leaving it unused but installed doesn't bother me at
all. It uses, at most, just a few pennies worth of disk space.
 
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Bruce Hagen

Flightless Bird
"Dave "Crash" Dummy" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:bxg9o.14825$1F6.8434@newsfe01.iad...
> Ken Blake wrote:
>> On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 11:14:00 -0400, "Dave \"Crash\" Dummy"
>> <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> Ken Blake wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 12 Aug 2010 23:44:24 -0700, "DGDevin"
>>>> <DGDevin@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It would be nice if MS changed the Defender section in Control Panel
>>>>> to read that Defender is automatically turned off when Security
>>>>> Essentials is installed.
>>>> I agree!
>>>>
>>> Me, three. Is there any way to uninstall Defender, or is it
>>> integrated into Security Essentials when that is installed?
>>
>> As I understand it, it's not that it itself is integrated into
>> Microsoft Security Essentials, but that Microsoft Security Essentials
>> contains the same functionality. So as far as I know, there's no way
>> to turn off that functionality in Microsoft Security Essentials.
>
> That I get. What I am asking is if Defender is an independent
> applications which can be uninstalled since MSE has taken over the job.
> Defender is disabled by MSE, so why leave it installed?
> --
> Crash
>
> "In politics, stupidity is not a handicap."
> ~ Napoleon Bonaparte ~


If you have Windows Defender downloaded as a separate program, then yes,
you can remove it.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA
 
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Dave \Crash\ Dummy

Flightless Bird
Ken Blake wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 14:53:59 -0400, "Dave \"Crash\" Dummy"
> <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Ken Blake wrote:
>
>>>> Me, three. Is there any way to uninstall Defender, or is it
>>>> integrated into Security Essentials when that is installed?
>>> As I understand it, it's not that it itself is integrated into
>>> Microsoft Security Essentials, but that Microsoft Security Essentials
>>> contains the same functionality. So as far as I know, there's no way
>>> to turn off that functionality in Microsoft Security Essentials.
>> That I get. What I am asking is if Defender is an independent
>> applications which can be uninstalled since MSE has taken over the job.
>> Defender is disabled by MSE, so why leave it installed?
>
>
>
> Ah, I understand now. Sorry, I misunderstood you.
>
> As far as I know, no, there's no way to uninstall it, and it's part of
> Windows 7. But leaving it unused but installed doesn't bother me at
> all. It uses, at most, just a few pennies worth of disk space.

Yeah, but I'm terminally anal. :)

--
Crash

"The future ain't what it used to be."
~ Yogi Berra ~
 
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