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Run Windows Security & Defender together?

Discussion in 'Windows 7' started by Frederick J. Barnett, Aug 12, 2010.

  1. Frederick J. Barnett

    Frederick J. Barnett Flightless Bird

    I recently switched my anti-virus to the Windows Security
    Essentials. I was wondering if I need to turn Defender back on too?
    The WSE didn't say either way.


    Frederick J. Barnett http://www.eatel.net/~fred/
    "Someone's got to take the responsibility if the job's going to get done!! Do you think that's easy?!" Gregory Peck - The Guns Of Navarone
     
  2. Peter Taylor

    Peter Taylor Flightless Bird

    On 8/12/2010 4:26 PM, Frederick J. Barnett wrote:
    > I recently switched my anti-virus to the Windows Security
    > Essentials. I was wondering if I need to turn Defender back on too?


    Good idea.

    > The WSE didn't say either way.


    It's still a good idea.

    --
    Peter Taylor
     
  3. Chris Sidener

    Chris Sidener Flightless Bird

    "Peter Taylor" <noemailspam@please.com.invalid> wrote in message
    news:i410iq$6tq$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    > On 8/12/2010 4:26 PM, Frederick J. Barnett wrote:
    >> I recently switched my anti-virus to the Windows Security
    >> Essentials. I was wondering if I need to turn Defender back on too?

    >
    > Good idea.
    >
    >> The WSE didn't say either way.

    >
    > It's still a good idea.
    >
    > --
    > Peter Taylor


    MSE turns Defender off. It's redundant.

    Chris
     
  4. Bruce Hagen

    Bruce Hagen Flightless Bird

    "Frederick J. Barnett" <fred@eatel.net> wrote in message
    news:hs0866h81lne0o88mj1n8c68rb1jh0388t@4ax.com...
    > I recently switched my anti-virus to the Windows Security
    > Essentials. I was wondering if I need to turn Defender back on too?
    > The WSE didn't say either way.
    >
    >
    > Frederick J. Barnett http://www.eatel.net/~fred/
    > "Someone's got to take the responsibility if the job's going to get
    > done!! Do you think that's easy?!" Gregory Peck - The Guns Of Navarone




    No. MSE includes the properties of Windows Defender and will just shut it
    back down again as it is now redundant. You may as well remove WD from
    your machine.
    --
    Bruce Hagen
    MS-MVP [Mail]
    Imperial Beach, CA
     
  5. Peter Taylor

    Peter Taylor Flightless Bird

    On 8/12/2010 4:39 PM, Chris Sidener wrote:
    >
    > "Peter Taylor" <noemailspam@please.com.invalid> wrote in message
    > news:i410iq$6tq$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    >> On 8/12/2010 4:26 PM, Frederick J. Barnett wrote:
    >>> I recently switched my anti-virus to the Windows Security
    >>> Essentials. I was wondering if I need to turn Defender back on too?

    >>
    >> Good idea.
    >>
    >>> The WSE didn't say either way.

    >>
    >> It's still a good idea.
    >>
    >> --
    >> Peter Taylor

    >
    > MSE turns Defender off. It's redundant.
    >
    > Chris
    >


    Oh, I didn't know that. You learn something new every day :)

    --
    Peter Taylor
     
  6. Ken Blake

    Ken Blake Flightless Bird

    On Thu, 12 Aug 2010 09:26:00 -0500, Frederick J. Barnett
    <fred@eatel.net> wrote:

    > I recently switched my anti-virus to the Windows Security
    > Essentials. I was wondering if I need to turn Defender back on too?




    You can't (and wouldn't need to if you could).

    Windows Security Essentials turns Defender off, because its
    capabilities are built into Windows Security Essentials.
     
  7. Frederick J. Barnett

    Frederick J. Barnett Flightless Bird

    That's what I wanted to know.

    Thanks to everyone who replied.


    Frederick J. Barnett http://www.eatel.net/~fred/
    "Someone's got to take the responsibility if the job's going to get done!! Do you think that's easy?!" Gregory Peck - The Guns Of Navarone
     
  8. DGDevin

    DGDevin Flightless Bird

    "Ken Blake" <kblake@this.is.invalid.com> wrote in message
    news:g19866pr73l4ui3h770opci6af88bovukc@4ax.com...
    > On Thu, 12 Aug 2010 09:26:00 -0500, Frederick J. Barnett
    > <fred@eatel.net> wrote:
    >
    >> I recently switched my anti-virus to the Windows Security
    >> Essentials. I was wondering if I need to turn Defender back on too?

    >
    >
    >
    > You can't (and wouldn't need to if you could).
    >
    > Windows Security Essentials turns Defender off, because its
    > capabilities are built into Windows Security Essentials.


    I was able to turn on Defender today via Action Center (with Security
    Essentials running), but it was turned off again when I started the computer
    later, which is apparently just as well. It would be nice if MS changed the
    Defender section in Control Panel to read that Defender is automatically
    turned off when Security Essentials is installed.
     
  9. Ken Blake

    Ken Blake Flightless Bird

    On Thu, 12 Aug 2010 23:44:24 -0700, "DGDevin"
    <DGDevin@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    > It would be nice if MS changed the
    > Defender section in Control Panel to read that Defender is automatically
    > turned off when Security Essentials is installed.




    I agree!
     
  10. Dave \Crash\ Dummy

    Dave \Crash\ Dummy Flightless Bird

    Ken Blake wrote:
    > On Thu, 12 Aug 2010 23:44:24 -0700, "DGDevin"
    > <DGDevin@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    >
    >> It would be nice if MS changed the Defender section in Control
    >> Panel to read that Defender is automatically turned off when
    >> Security Essentials is installed.

    >
    > I agree!
    >

    Me, three. Is there any way to uninstall Defender, or is it integrated
    into Security Essentials when that is installed?
    --
    Crash

    One man's weed is another man's wildflower.
     
  11. Ken Blake

    Ken Blake Flightless Bird

    On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 11:14:00 -0400, "Dave \"Crash\" Dummy"
    <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    > Ken Blake wrote:
    > > On Thu, 12 Aug 2010 23:44:24 -0700, "DGDevin"
    > > <DGDevin@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    > >
    > >> It would be nice if MS changed the Defender section in Control
    > >> Panel to read that Defender is automatically turned off when
    > >> Security Essentials is installed.

    > >
    > > I agree!
    > >

    > Me, three. Is there any way to uninstall Defender, or is it integrated
    > into Security Essentials when that is installed?




    As I understand it, it's not that it itself is integrated into
    Microsoft Security Essentials, but that Microsoft Security Essentials
    contains the same functionality. So as far as I know, there's no way
    to turn off that functionality in Microsoft Security Essentials.
     
  12. Dave \Crash\ Dummy

    Dave \Crash\ Dummy Flightless Bird

    Ken Blake wrote:
    > On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 11:14:00 -0400, "Dave \"Crash\" Dummy"
    > <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    >
    >> Ken Blake wrote:
    >>> On Thu, 12 Aug 2010 23:44:24 -0700, "DGDevin"
    >>> <DGDevin@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> It would be nice if MS changed the Defender section in Control
    >>>> Panel to read that Defender is automatically turned off when
    >>>> Security Essentials is installed.
    >>> I agree!
    >>>

    >> Me, three. Is there any way to uninstall Defender, or is it
    >> integrated into Security Essentials when that is installed?

    >
    > As I understand it, it's not that it itself is integrated into
    > Microsoft Security Essentials, but that Microsoft Security Essentials
    > contains the same functionality. So as far as I know, there's no way
    > to turn off that functionality in Microsoft Security Essentials.


    That I get. What I am asking is if Defender is an independent
    applications which can be uninstalled since MSE has taken over the job.
    Defender is disabled by MSE, so why leave it installed?
    --
    Crash

    "In politics, stupidity is not a handicap."
    ~ Napoleon Bonaparte ~
     
  13. Ken Blake

    Ken Blake Flightless Bird

    On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 14:53:59 -0400, "Dave \"Crash\" Dummy"
    <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    > Ken Blake wrote:


    > >> Me, three. Is there any way to uninstall Defender, or is it
    > >> integrated into Security Essentials when that is installed?

    > >
    > > As I understand it, it's not that it itself is integrated into
    > > Microsoft Security Essentials, but that Microsoft Security Essentials
    > > contains the same functionality. So as far as I know, there's no way
    > > to turn off that functionality in Microsoft Security Essentials.

    >
    > That I get. What I am asking is if Defender is an independent
    > applications which can be uninstalled since MSE has taken over the job.
    > Defender is disabled by MSE, so why leave it installed?




    Ah, I understand now. Sorry, I misunderstood you.

    As far as I know, no, there's no way to uninstall it, and it's part of
    Windows 7. But leaving it unused but installed doesn't bother me at
    all. It uses, at most, just a few pennies worth of disk space.
     
  14. Bruce Hagen

    Bruce Hagen Flightless Bird

    "Dave "Crash" Dummy" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
    news:bxg9o.14825$1F6.8434@newsfe01.iad...
    > Ken Blake wrote:
    >> On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 11:14:00 -0400, "Dave \"Crash\" Dummy"
    >> <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    >>
    >>> Ken Blake wrote:
    >>>> On Thu, 12 Aug 2010 23:44:24 -0700, "DGDevin"
    >>>> <DGDevin@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> It would be nice if MS changed the Defender section in Control Panel
    >>>>> to read that Defender is automatically turned off when Security
    >>>>> Essentials is installed.
    >>>> I agree!
    >>>>
    >>> Me, three. Is there any way to uninstall Defender, or is it
    >>> integrated into Security Essentials when that is installed?

    >>
    >> As I understand it, it's not that it itself is integrated into
    >> Microsoft Security Essentials, but that Microsoft Security Essentials
    >> contains the same functionality. So as far as I know, there's no way
    >> to turn off that functionality in Microsoft Security Essentials.

    >
    > That I get. What I am asking is if Defender is an independent
    > applications which can be uninstalled since MSE has taken over the job.
    > Defender is disabled by MSE, so why leave it installed?
    > --
    > Crash
    >
    > "In politics, stupidity is not a handicap."
    > ~ Napoleon Bonaparte ~



    If you have Windows Defender downloaded as a separate program, then yes,
    you can remove it.
    --
    Bruce Hagen
    MS-MVP [Mail]
    Imperial Beach, CA
     
  15. Dave \Crash\ Dummy

    Dave \Crash\ Dummy Flightless Bird

    Ken Blake wrote:
    > On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 14:53:59 -0400, "Dave \"Crash\" Dummy"
    > <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    >
    >> Ken Blake wrote:

    >
    >>>> Me, three. Is there any way to uninstall Defender, or is it
    >>>> integrated into Security Essentials when that is installed?
    >>> As I understand it, it's not that it itself is integrated into
    >>> Microsoft Security Essentials, but that Microsoft Security Essentials
    >>> contains the same functionality. So as far as I know, there's no way
    >>> to turn off that functionality in Microsoft Security Essentials.

    >> That I get. What I am asking is if Defender is an independent
    >> applications which can be uninstalled since MSE has taken over the job.
    >> Defender is disabled by MSE, so why leave it installed?

    >
    >
    >
    > Ah, I understand now. Sorry, I misunderstood you.
    >
    > As far as I know, no, there's no way to uninstall it, and it's part of
    > Windows 7. But leaving it unused but installed doesn't bother me at
    > all. It uses, at most, just a few pennies worth of disk space.


    Yeah, but I'm terminally anal. :)

    --
    Crash

    "The future ain't what it used to be."
    ~ Yogi Berra ~
     

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