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Oh no, MicroSoft Blew It Again...

Discussion in 'Windows XP' started by John McGaw, Jan 21, 2010.

  1. John McGaw

    John McGaw Flightless Bird

    Just got done installing the latest patch to fix whatever deadly IE hole it
    was that allowed the Google attack. Five machines. 1 Win 7 and 4 XP Pro.
    After doing the mandatory reboots at the end two of the XP machines wound
    up with destroyed profiles. It seems that nobody at MS bothered to test
    (test? what is test?) the process of installing the patch and rebooting via
    remote desktop -- the way I routinely perform all tasks on machines outside
    my office. I wasn't alerted to that situation, having had years of random
    mysterious profile corruptions occurring, before I tried to log into the
    second machine and had it go belly up too. Made my way the the other two XP
    machines personally and logged in and they survived.

    So I guess I'll be spending even more time trying to recover from something
    which should never have been allowed to happen in the first place. Leaves
    me wondering what will happen if MS ever gets around to trying to patch
    that ancient hole which has been around since NT days and which exists in
    all operating systems ever since. They could wind up bringing on the
    apocalypse.
     
  2. RJK

    RJK Flightless Bird

    "John McGaw" <nowhere@at.all> wrote in message
    news:u3NJQWtmKHA.2592@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    > Just got done installing the latest patch to fix whatever deadly IE hole
    > it was that allowed the Google attack. Five machines. 1 Win 7 and 4 XP
    > Pro. After doing the mandatory reboots at the end two of the XP machines
    > wound up with destroyed profiles. It seems that nobody at MS bothered to
    > test (test? what is test?) the process of installing the patch and
    > rebooting via remote desktop -- the way I routinely perform all tasks on
    > machines outside my office. I wasn't alerted to that situation, having had
    > years of random mysterious profile corruptions occurring, before I tried
    > to log into the second machine and had it go belly up too. Made my way the
    > the other two XP machines personally and logged in and they survived.
    >
    > So I guess I'll be spending even more time trying to recover from
    > something which should never have been allowed to happen in the first
    > place. Leaves me wondering what will happen if MS ever gets around to
    > trying to patch that ancient hole which has been around since NT days and
    > which exists in all operating systems ever since. They could wind up
    > bringing on the apocalypse.


    IOW MS quality is rapidly shooting down the plug-hole ! Someone, in this
    NG I think, recently commented, in as many words, that since Bill Gates
    left the "helm," MS is nothing more than a "money making enterprise," and
    after spending time recently banishing a stubborn ATDMT data-tracking
    cookie, and tracing its' stubborness to a registry key that was persistently
    letting in that ATDMT cookie via Ms's Live / Hotmail account + "Bing" IE8
    search plug-in ....I tend to agree !!!

    regards, Richard
     
  3. Kevin John Panzke

    Kevin John Panzke Flightless Bird

    On Jan 21, 2:08 pm, John McGaw <nowh...@at.all> wrote:
    > Just got done installing the latest patch to fix whatever deadly IE hole it
    > was that allowed the Google attack. Five machines. 1 Win 7 and 4 XP Pro.
    > After doing the mandatory reboots at the end two of the XP machines wound
    > up with destroyed profiles. It seems that nobody at MS bothered to test
    > (test? what is test?) the process of installing the patch and rebooting via
    > remote desktop -- the way I routinely perform all tasks on machines outside
    > my office. I wasn't alerted to that situation, having had years of random
    > mysterious profile corruptions occurring, before I tried to log into the
    > second machine and had it go belly up too. Made my way the the other two XP
    > machines personally and logged in and they survived.
    >
    > So I guess I'll be spending even more time trying to recover from something
    > which should never have been allowed to happen in the first place. Leaves
    > me wondering what will happen if MS ever gets around to trying to patch
    > that ancient hole which has been around since NT days and which exists in
    > all operating systems ever since. They could wind up bringing on the
    > apocalypse.


    please re-post in the xp forums on microsoft technet as most microsoft
    employee's do not moniter this peer 2 peer usenet newsgroup.
     
  4. PA Bear [MS MVP]

    PA Bear [MS MVP] Flightless Bird

    <yawn>

    http://blog.mozilla.com/sumo/2010/01/20/firefox-3-6-releases-thursday-21-jan-2010/

    https://developer.mozilla.org/devne...d-3-0-1-update-is-now-available-for-download/

    http://www.sophos.com/blogs/gc/g/2010/01/20/critical-patches-emerge-mac-os-security-holes/


    John McGaw wrote:
    > Just got done installing the latest patch to fix whatever deadly IE hole
    > it
    > was that allowed the Google attack. Five machines. 1 Win 7 and 4 XP Pro.
    > After doing the mandatory reboots at the end two of the XP machines wound
    > up with destroyed profiles. It seems that nobody at MS bothered to test
    > (test? what is test?) the process of installing the patch and rebooting
    > via
    > remote desktop -- the way I routinely perform all tasks on machines
    > outside
    > my office. I wasn't alerted to that situation, having had years of random
    > mysterious profile corruptions occurring, before I tried to log into the
    > second machine and had it go belly up too. Made my way the the other two
    > XP
    > machines personally and logged in and they survived.
    >
    > So I guess I'll be spending even more time trying to recover from
    > something
    > which should never have been allowed to happen in the first place. Leaves
    > me wondering what will happen if MS ever gets around to trying to patch
    > that ancient hole which has been around since NT days and which exists in
    > all operating systems ever since. They could wind up bringing on the
    > apocalypse.
     
  5. ANONYMOUS

    ANONYMOUS Flightless Bird

    M$ used a sledge hammer to crack a nut this time and you fell for it. I
    warned people on these newsgroups not to install the latest patch and now I
    can see why M$'s poodles by the title of MVPs deleted my message.

    The best advice I can give is to stop installing all WINDOWS updates because
    there is no evidence that they make the system any secure. In fact, there
    is evidence that they do more harm than good to the system and you are the
    classic example of this.

    Pigs are pigs and they should be slaughtered and eaten unless you happen to
    be a Muslim or Jewish or vegetarian.

    Peter Foldes sister is neither but she is professional hooker!.

    hth

    "John McGaw" <nowhere@at.all> wrote in message
    news:u3NJQWtmKHA.2592@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    > Just got done installing the latest patch to fix whatever deadly IE hole
    > it was that allowed the Google attack. Five machines. 1 Win 7 and 4 XP
    > Pro. After doing the mandatory reboots at the end two of the XP machines
    > wound up with destroyed profiles. It seems that nobody at MS bothered to
    > test (test? what is test?) the process of installing the patch and
    > rebooting via remote desktop -- the way I routinely perform all tasks on
    > machines outside my office. I wasn't alerted to that situation, having had
    > years of random mysterious profile corruptions occurring, before I tried
    > to log into the second machine and had it go belly up too. Made my way the
    > the other two XP machines personally and logged in and they survived.
    >
    > So I guess I'll be spending even more time trying to recover from
    > something which should never have been allowed to happen in the first
    > place. Leaves me wondering what will happen if MS ever gets around to
    > trying to patch that ancient hole which has been around since NT days and
    > which exists in all operating systems ever since. They could wind up
    > bringing on the apocalypse.
     
  6. John McGaw

    John McGaw Flightless Bird

    On 1/21/2010 8:15 PM, PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
    > <yawn>
    >
    > http://blog.mozilla.com/sumo/2010/01/20/firefox-3-6-releases-thursday-21-jan-2010/
    >
    >
    > https://developer.mozilla.org/devne...d-3-0-1-update-is-now-available-for-download/
    >
    >
    > http://www.sophos.com/blogs/gc/g/2010/01/20/critical-patches-emerge-mac-os-security-holes/
    >
    >

    snip...

    And these references help correct my MS-patch-induced problems how? I have
    never had a Mozilla patch do any damage at all to a system and I don't use
    Mac. And I'm still left with two trashed systems I will have to repair
    through hours of labor and all because MS didn't spend enough (any?) time
    testing a fix for a bug that they've known about since September. Here is a
    reference that actually does bear on the matter at hand:

    http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=5324&tag=wrapper;col1

    You can believe me when I say that if MS hadn't made IE part of their
    update functionality I would never use it but since it _is_ intertwined
    with it I have little choice in the matter. (and yes I know about manual
    patching but I should not be forced into even more work trying to keep my
    systems up to date and semi-protected)
     
  7. M. Murphy

    M. Murphy Flightless Bird

    You can call Microsoft and get FREE tech support for patches that go awry, I
    *believe* the number is 800-936-4900, but please look it up yourseof to make
    sure I am correct, as I just have it scrawled on a sticky note on the wall.

    "John McGaw" <nowhere@at.all> wrote in message
    news:eD4nuQ3mKHA.3636@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    > On 1/21/2010 8:15 PM, PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
    >> <yawn>
    >>
    >> http://blog.mozilla.com/sumo/2010/01/20/firefox-3-6-releases-thursday-21-jan-2010/
    >>
    >>
    >> https://developer.mozilla.org/devne...d-3-0-1-update-is-now-available-for-download/
    >>
    >>
    >> http://www.sophos.com/blogs/gc/g/2010/01/20/critical-patches-emerge-mac-os-security-holes/
    >>
    >>

    > snip...
    >
    > And these references help correct my MS-patch-induced problems how? I have
    > never had a Mozilla patch do any damage at all to a system and I don't use
    > Mac. And I'm still left with two trashed systems I will have to repair
    > through hours of labor and all because MS didn't spend enough (any?) time
    > testing a fix for a bug that they've known about since September. Here is
    > a reference that actually does bear on the matter at hand:
    >
    > http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=5324&tag=wrapper;col1
    >
    > You can believe me when I say that if MS hadn't made IE part of their
    > update functionality I would never use it but since it _is_ intertwined
    > with it I have little choice in the matter. (and yes I know about manual
    > patching but I should not be forced into even more work trying to keep my
    > systems up to date and semi-protected)
     
  8. PA Bear [MS MVP]

    PA Bear [MS MVP] Flightless Bird

    John McGaw wrote:
    > On 1/21/2010 8:15 PM, PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
    >> <yawn>
    >>
    >> http://blog.mozilla.com/sumo/2010/01/20/firefox-3-6-releases-thursday-21-jan-2010/
    >>
    >>
    >> https://developer.mozilla.org/devne...d-3-0-1-update-is-now-available-for-download/
    >>
    >>
    >> http://www.sophos.com/blogs/gc/g/2010/01/20/critical-patches-emerge-mac-os-security-holes/
    >>
    >>

    > snip...
    >
    > And these references help correct my MS-patch-induced problems how?


    You didn't ask for help, you just posted a rant IIRC.

    For home users, no-charge support is available by calling 1-866-PCSAFETY in
    the United States and in Canada or by contacting your local Microsoft
    subsidiary. There is no-charge for support calls that are associated with
    security updates. When you call, clearly state that your problem is related
    to a Security Update and cite the update's KB number (e.g., KB978207).

    LOOK! => If your problem relates to a Cumulative Security Update for IE
    (e.g., KB978207), call the above number and ask to be transferred to the
    Consumer IE7 queue (which is 47830).

    For more information about how to contact your local Microsoft subsidiary
    for security update support issues, visit the International Support Web
    site: http://support.microsoft.com/common/international.aspx

    For enterprise customers, support for security updates is available through
    your usual support contacts.

    Or you can...

    Start a free Windows Update support incident request:
    https://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?gprid=6527

    TIP: Windows Update-specific newsgroup:
    news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windowsupdate
     
  9. ANONYMOUS

    ANONYMOUS Flightless Bird

    "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:-OTL3n26mKHA.1544@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    >


    > You didn't ask for help, you just posted a rant IIRC.
    >


    So why did you bother to reply? Does this say something about the state of
    your mental faculties? Have they dismissed you from the geriatrics' asylum?
     
  10. CriticalMass

    CriticalMass Flightless Bird

    I didn't install it, but I'm on Vista and I think I have Auto-updates turned
    on - BUT, that means you are supposed to still have THE CHOICE of WHEN to
    install the patch - well, about 20 minutes ago, my system shut down and
    rebooted on its own, after just recently seeing the "patch in question"
    (Chinese-Google-Ginsu-Patch) - so, this begs the question HOW MUCH CONTROL
    DOES M$ HAVE ON MY SYSTEM?!

    Seriously, I [ALWAYS] postpone and wait until I'm ready, but this time, I
    was right in the middle of finishing something and M$ gave NO WARNING! Just
    the little bubble that "patches are ready to be installed - blah blah." I'm
    fine with AUTO updating (on this particular Vista workstation), but that
    doesn't mean M$ gets AUTO-CONTROL of my workstation and gets to patch &
    reboot it when they choose!
    That's just plain WRONG; no matter HOW critical the patch is! If I am
    finishing a multimillion dollar proposal and you (M$) then FORCE a patch on
    me; and FORCE a reboot, then I've just lost thousands of dollars - and maybe
    even the entire proposal. Yes, I "save" quite often, so don't lecture me - my
    point still stands - THIS behavior needs to stop! This happened at about
    9:40pm Central Time, fyi on Jan 22.
    Just another example of M$ being "in control."

    In many ways, I agree with many of the points of ANONYMOUS below - I have
    had systems - up until 2 weeks ago, running Windows Server TWO-THOUSAND! with
    ZERO patches, and ZERO problems! I tried the first round of Windows server
    2000 patches - and everything died. I rolled back, left it alone, and it has
    been running for 6 years, without problems. I have found numerous patches,
    within the past 2 months, for XP Professional and Vista, that break more
    things than they fix.

    I work for a very large nationwide retailer, and 2 of the M$ patches related
    to "making XP happy with Windows Server 2008," caused a lot of havoc, WAY TOO
    MUCH time and effort to troubleshoot and find that those 2 patches caused the
    issue(s). Rolled back those 2 patchs and BOOM - all is well. We set WSUS to
    NOT deploy those patches and so the story goes.

    "ANONYMOUS" wrote:

    > M$ used a sledge hammer to crack a nut this time and you fell for it. I
    > warned people on these newsgroups not to install the latest patch and now I
    > can see why M$'s poodles by the title of MVPs deleted my message.
    >
    > The best advice I can give is to stop installing all WINDOWS updates because
    > there is no evidence that they make the system any secure. In fact, there
    > is evidence that they do more harm than good to the system and you are the
    > classic example of this.
    >
    > Pigs are pigs and they should be slaughtered and eaten unless you happen to
    > be a Muslim or Jewish or vegetarian.
    >
    > Peter Foldes sister is neither but she is professional hooker!.
    >
    > hth
    >
    > "John McGaw" <nowhere@at.all> wrote in message
    > news:u3NJQWtmKHA.2592@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    > > Just got done installing the latest patch to fix whatever deadly IE hole
    > > it was that allowed the Google attack. Five machines. 1 Win 7 and 4 XP
    > > Pro. After doing the mandatory reboots at the end two of the XP machines
    > > wound up with destroyed profiles. It seems that nobody at MS bothered to
    > > test (test? what is test?) the process of installing the patch and
    > > rebooting via remote desktop -- the way I routinely perform all tasks on
    > > machines outside my office. I wasn't alerted to that situation, having had
    > > years of random mysterious profile corruptions occurring, before I tried
    > > to log into the second machine and had it go belly up too. Made my way the
    > > the other two XP machines personally and logged in and they survived.
    > >
    > > So I guess I'll be spending even more time trying to recover from
    > > something which should never have been allowed to happen in the first
    > > place. Leaves me wondering what will happen if MS ever gets around to
    > > trying to patch that ancient hole which has been around since NT days and
    > > which exists in all operating systems ever since. They could wind up
    > > bringing on the apocalypse.

    >
    >
    > .
    >
     
  11. PA Bear [MS MVP]

    PA Bear [MS MVP] Flightless Bird

    Did you read th EULA you agreed to when you first turned on your computer?

    CriticalMass wrote:
    > I didn't install it, but I'm on Vista and I think I have Auto-updates
    > turned
    > on - BUT, that means you are supposed to still have THE CHOICE of WHEN to
    > install the patch - well, about 20 minutes ago, my system shut down and
    > rebooted on its own, after just recently seeing the "patch in question"
    > (Chinese-Google-Ginsu-Patch) - so, this begs the question HOW MUCH CONTROL
    > DOES M$ HAVE ON MY SYSTEM?!...
     
  12. Unknown

    Unknown Flightless Bird

    How did YOU escape or get out of the asylum?
    "ANONYMOUS" <ANONYMOUS@EXAMPLE.COM> wrote in message
    news:%230Le748mKHA.216@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    >
    > "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:-OTL3n26mKHA.1544@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    >>

    >
    >> You didn't ask for help, you just posted a rant IIRC.
    >>

    >
    > So why did you bother to reply? Does this say something about the state
    > of your mental faculties? Have they dismissed you from the geriatrics'
    > asylum?
    >
    >
    >
     
  13. Kevin John Panzke

    Kevin John Panzke Flightless Bird

  14. ANONYMOUS

    ANONYMOUS Flightless Bird

    "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message
    news:e5RCQNEnKHA.1548@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    > How did YOU escape or get out of the asylum?


    With your sister's help but she wanted to s u c k my c o c k dry because she
    likes that cum from my c o c k! Does this answer your question adequately?
     
  15. ANONYMOUS

    ANONYMOUS Flightless Bird

    By doing that your keyboard breaks down and that is even more serious than
    dealing M$ updates!


    "Kevin John Panzke" <kevin.panzke@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:251f3a10-97f6-4ebf-a6b9-dd80f8a4f232@e25g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
    > REFORMAT YOUR COMPUTER AND INSTALL EITHER OPEN SOURCE LINUX UBUNTU
    > 8.04.3 LONG TERM SUPPORT GOLD, OR OPEN SOURCE LINUX UBUNTU 9.10 GOLD
    > FROM HTTP://RELEASES.UBUNTU.COM/, OR OPEN SOURCE LINUX UBUNTU 10.04
    > LONG TERM SUPPORT ALPHA 2 FROM
    > HTTP://CDIMAGE.UBUNTU.COM/RELEASES/LUCID/ALPHA-2/,
    > JUST FYI!
     
  16. Unknown

    Unknown Flightless Bird

    No, because I don't have a sister. Once again you're trying to impress
    someone with your foul mouth.
    When are you going to quit making an ass of yourself?
    "ANONYMOUS" <ANONYMOUS@EXAMPLE.COM> wrote in message
    news:%23AFsUPHnKHA.5520@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
    >
    > "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message
    > news:e5RCQNEnKHA.1548@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    >> How did YOU escape or get out of the asylum?

    >
    > With your sister's help but she wanted to s u c k my c o c k dry because
    > she likes that cum from my c o c k! Does this answer your question
    > adequately?
    >
    >
    >
     
  17. ANONYMOUS

    ANONYMOUS Flightless Bird

    "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message
    news:%23LXezbHnKHA.5524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
    > No, because I don't have a sister.


    So what you are telling me your mum lied to me when she said she is your
    sister? She did look young for her age though? How about your wife then?
    Is she in the same trade?
     
  18. Unknown

    Unknown Flightless Bird

    I guess you think it's great to make an ass of yourself-------so be it.
    "ANONYMOUS" <ANONYMOUS@EXAMPLE.COM> wrote in message
    news:%23MbM%23iHnKHA.4628@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    >
    > "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message
    > news:%23LXezbHnKHA.5524@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
    >> No, because I don't have a sister.

    >
    > So what you are telling me your mum lied to me when she said she is your
    > sister? She did look young for her age though? How about your wife then?
    > Is she in the same trade?
    >
    >
    >
     
  19. ANONYMOUS

    ANONYMOUS Flightless Bird

    On 23 Jan, 22:14, "Unknown" <unkn...@unknown.kom> wrote:
    > I guess you think it's great to make an ass of yourself-------so be it.


    It's great to make fun of you. Is it true that you also have had a
    penis
    removal operation so that you can sleep passively with other men?
     
  20. S Hemisphere

    S Hemisphere Flightless Bird

    Shame, Is this the only way you can have any entertainment in
    your lousy life by using filthy language in a group the WORLD
    look at - poor you!

    I pity you - nuff said......CLOSED




    "ANONYMOUS" <xfsgpr@googlemail.com> wrote in message
    news:f66f1f71-8660-405d-93be-2676c18d703a@l19g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...

    On 23 Jan, 22:14, "Unknown" <unkn...@unknown.kom> wrote:
    > I guess you think it's great to make an ass of
    > yourself-------so be it.


    It's great to make fun of you. Is it true that you also have had
    a
    penis
    removal operation so that you can sleep passively with other men?
     

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