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Gene E. Bloch

Flightless Bird
On Wed, 08 Sep 2010 08:45:13 -0500, Char Jackson wrote:

> On Tue, 7 Sep 2010 21:48:07 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
> <not-me@other.invalid> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 07 Sep 2010 22:10:04 -0500, Char Jackson wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 7 Sep 2010 21:46:05 -0500, "Dave" <davidj92@wowway.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Trimble Bracegirdle" <no-spam@never.spam> wrote in message
>>>>news:i66o9r$4qn$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>> Nether of them even attempted to give an answer & in fact show no sign of
>>>>> having read
>>>>> ether this thread starter Post or the related one 4 days back.
>>>>>
>>>>> I sorry Gene, for that stupid list of insulting nonsense,
>>>>> but if any Newsgroup ever deserved it ....?.
>>>>> @@@Mouse@@@
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Sorry, unless you have a legitimate email address in your header I consider
>>>>you a troll, especially when you post flames.
>>>>Dave
>>>
>>> Almost no one uses a valid email address on Usenet, for very good
>>> reason.
>>
>>Well, then, according to David, most of us are trolls.
>>
>>See you under the bridge, Char :)
>>
>>I used to own a Saab, back when they had 2-cycle engines and you could
>>get a window sticker that said "Made in Trollhattan by trolls".
>>That's why *I* use a fake e-mail address...
>
> I don't have a similarly cute story, darn it, but I wish I did. When I
> started using Usenet in 1984 I didn't have an email address, so I had
> to make something up. I didn't get my own email address until 1991,
> and by that time it had become crystal clear to me that Usenet is
> Usenet and email is email, and (almost) ne'er the twain shall meet.
>
> See you under the bridge. I'll bring drinks, you bring sandwiches. :)

Done!

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)
 
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Gene E. Bloch

Flightless Bird
On Wed, 8 Sep 2010 08:48:29 -0500, Dave wrote:

> "Char Jackson" <none@none.invalid> wrote in message
> news:vhvd86pvma8e8rdplb0dkc6puonf4ttna2@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 7 Sep 2010 21:46:05 -0500, "Dave" <davidj92@wowway.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Trimble Bracegirdle" <no-spam@never.spam> wrote in message
>>>news:i66o9r$4qn$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>> Nether of them even attempted to give an answer & in fact show no sign
>>>> of
>>>> having read
>>>> ether this thread starter Post or the related one 4 days back.
>>>>
>>>> I sorry Gene, for that stupid list of insulting nonsense,
>>>> but if any Newsgroup ever deserved it ....?.
>>>> @@@Mouse@@@
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>Sorry, unless you have a legitimate email address in your header I
>>>consider
>>>you a troll, especially when you post flames.
>>>Dave
>>
>> Almost no one uses a valid email address on Usenet, for very good
>> reason.
>>
>
> Sorry for message in the post, actually, what I was trying to say should
> have been the opposite, when you flame and don't have a valid email
> address...
> But, since I didn't see the original post and don't know it's attitude, I
> should not judge and apologize for the flame on my part.
> I agree with you on not using a valid email address and understand the
> reasons although I hadn't taken the time to look at my own email address.
> Dave

If I ever made an error myself, I probably would have sympathy for your
error.

So of course I have sympathy :)

Besides that, I got to tell my little story about trolls in Sweden.

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)
 
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Tony

Flightless Bird
If Media Player 12 a good enough for other people then it's good enough for
you.

Trimble Bracegirdle wrote:

> When playing DIVX AVI Movie (Films) files in Windows 7's Media Player 12
> & Media Canter I get Very Hash Picture Quality
> as if the sharpness & contrast was turned up far to high.
> BUT I don't have this in other Players e.g. Media Player Classic ...VLC
> player ....
> on the same system or when playing other types of Video file..
>
> I recently installed the K-Lite Codec Mega Pack but this effect was there
> before.
>
> I've been through the Video Settings in my ATI Control Panel
> & I have the latest Drivers for my Radeon HD 5870.
>
> Essentially I need to turn down the Sharpness & overall picture strength
> but can't find any way ???
> @@@Mouse@@@
>
>

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Regards Tony... Making usenet better for everyone everyday
 
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Dave

Flightless Bird
"Gene E. Bloch" <not-me@other.invalid> wrote in message
news:10kmd9v40epn.1100tvpokmwj4.dlg@40tude.net...
> On Wed, 8 Sep 2010 08:48:29 -0500, Dave wrote:
>
>> "Char Jackson" <none@none.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:vhvd86pvma8e8rdplb0dkc6puonf4ttna2@4ax.com...
>>> On Tue, 7 Sep 2010 21:46:05 -0500, "Dave" <davidj92@wowway.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Trimble Bracegirdle" <no-spam@never.spam> wrote in message
>>>>news:i66o9r$4qn$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>> Nether of them even attempted to give an answer & in fact show no sign
>>>>> of
>>>>> having read
>>>>> ether this thread starter Post or the related one 4 days back.
>>>>>
>>>>> I sorry Gene, for that stupid list of insulting nonsense,
>>>>> but if any Newsgroup ever deserved it ....?.
>>>>> @@@Mouse@@@
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Sorry, unless you have a legitimate email address in your header I
>>>>consider
>>>>you a troll, especially when you post flames.
>>>>Dave
>>>
>>> Almost no one uses a valid email address on Usenet, for very good
>>> reason.
>>>
>>
>> Sorry for message in the post, actually, what I was trying to say should
>> have been the opposite, when you flame and don't have a valid email
>> address...
>> But, since I didn't see the original post and don't know it's attitude, I
>> should not judge and apologize for the flame on my part.
>> I agree with you on not using a valid email address and understand the
>> reasons although I hadn't taken the time to look at my own email address.
>> Dave
>
> If I ever made an error myself, I probably would have sympathy for your
> error.
>
> So of course I have sympathy :)
>
> Besides that, I got to tell my little story about trolls in Sweden.
>
> --
> Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

Actually, I thought you were trying to get sympathy by telling a Saab story.
=D
Dave
 
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Dave

Flightless Bird
"Ken Blake" <kblake@this.is.invalid.com> wrote in message
news:j27f8654qgcnbdie5j5ishdcutveavo7r4@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 07 Sep 2010 22:10:04 -0500, Char Jackson <none@none.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 7 Sep 2010 21:46:05 -0500, "Dave" <davidj92@wowway.com> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"Trimble Bracegirdle" <no-spam@never.spam> wrote in message
>> >news:i66o9r$4qn$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>> >> Nether of them even attempted to give an answer & in fact show no sign
>> >> of
>> >> having read
>> >> ether this thread starter Post or the related one 4 days back.
>> >>
>> >> I sorry Gene, for that stupid list of insulting nonsense,
>> >> but if any Newsgroup ever deserved it ....?.
>> >> @@@Mouse@@@
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >Sorry, unless you have a legitimate email address in your header I
>> >consider
>> >you a troll, especially when you post flames.
>> >Dave
>>
>> Almost no one uses a valid email address on Usenet, for very good
>> reason.
>
>
> As far as I'm concerned, there are *two* reasons why I don't use my
> real e-mail address in newsgroups:
>
> 1. It can be harvested by spammers (that's probably the reason you
> meant).
>
> 2. I don't want to get e-mail replies to my posted messages. If you
> want to reply to me, reply in the newsgroup.
>
>

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if I hit the "Reply" button instead of "Reply
Group" then the message will come to your email address. Or does it rely on
the address you have listed and if it's a dud then the message goes into
limbo?
Dave
 
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Nil

Flightless Bird
On 09 Sep 2010, "Dave" <dave@unknown.com> wrote in
alt.windows7.general:

> Correct me if I'm wrong, but if I hit the "Reply" button instead
> of "Reply Group" then the message will come to your email address.
> Or does it rely on the address you have listed and if it's a dud
> then the message goes into limbo?

I assume you're asking about Windows Live Mail, since that's what you
composed that post with, I'm sure it follows the conventional behavior,
so when you Reply by email, it will use the address (good or not) from
the From: header field, unless the original poster has specified a
different address in the Reply To: field.

If they use a bogus or munged address, your message won't be delivered
and you might received a non-delivery notice or error message telling
you so.
 
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Ken Blake

Flightless Bird
On Thu, 9 Sep 2010 22:17:07 -0500, "Dave" <dave@unknown.com> wrote:

>
> "Ken Blake" <kblake@this.is.invalid.com> wrote in message
> news:j27f8654qgcnbdie5j5ishdcutveavo7r4@4ax.com...


> > As far as I'm concerned, there are *two* reasons why I don't use my
> > real e-mail address in newsgroups:
> >
> > 1. It can be harvested by spammers (that's probably the reason you
> > meant).
> >
> > 2. I don't want to get e-mail replies to my posted messages. If you
> > want to reply to me, reply in the newsgroup.
> >
> >
>
> Correct me if I'm wrong, but if I hit the "Reply" button instead of "Reply
> Group" then the message will come to your email address. Or does it rely on
> the address you have listed and if it's a dud then the message goes into
> limbo?


It will be sent to the return address that I have configured my e-mail
client (Agent) to use. In my case, as you can see from the above,
that's kblake@this.is.invalid.com.

As you might guess, that's not my real e-mail address, and it
presumably is an address that doesn't exist. So the result will be
that you will get an error message to that effect.

Feel free to try it, and reply to kblake@this.is.invalid.com.
 
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Char Jackson

Flightless Bird
On Thu, 9 Sep 2010 22:17:07 -0500, "Dave" <dave@unknown.com> wrote:

>Correct me if I'm wrong, but if I hit the "Reply" button instead of "Reply
>Group" then the message will come to your email address. Or does it rely on
>the address you have listed and if it's a dud then the message goes into
>limbo?
>Dave

On a sort-of-related note, the domain you've chosen is valid, which
probably wasn't your intention. Unknown.com sounds made up, but it's
real.
 
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Gene E. Bloch

Flightless Bird
On Thu, 9 Sep 2010 22:15:08 -0500, Dave wrote:

> "Gene E. Bloch" <not-me@other.invalid> wrote in message
> news:10kmd9v40epn.1100tvpokmwj4.dlg@40tude.net...
>> On Wed, 8 Sep 2010 08:48:29 -0500, Dave wrote:
>>
>>> "Char Jackson" <none@none.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:vhvd86pvma8e8rdplb0dkc6puonf4ttna2@4ax.com...
>>>> On Tue, 7 Sep 2010 21:46:05 -0500, "Dave" <davidj92@wowway.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Trimble Bracegirdle" <no-spam@never.spam> wrote in message
>>>>>news:i66o9r$4qn$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>>> Nether of them even attempted to give an answer & in fact show no sign
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> having read
>>>>>> ether this thread starter Post or the related one 4 days back.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I sorry Gene, for that stupid list of insulting nonsense,
>>>>>> but if any Newsgroup ever deserved it ....?.
>>>>>> @@@Mouse@@@
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Sorry, unless you have a legitimate email address in your header I
>>>>>consider
>>>>>you a troll, especially when you post flames.
>>>>>Dave
>>>>
>>>> Almost no one uses a valid email address on Usenet, for very good
>>>> reason.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Sorry for message in the post, actually, what I was trying to say should
>>> have been the opposite, when you flame and don't have a valid email
>>> address...
>>> But, since I didn't see the original post and don't know it's attitude, I
>>> should not judge and apologize for the flame on my part.
>>> I agree with you on not using a valid email address and understand the
>>> reasons although I hadn't taken the time to look at my own email address.
>>> Dave
>>
>> If I ever made an error myself, I probably would have sympathy for your
>> error.
>>
>> So of course I have sympathy :)
>>
>> Besides that, I got to tell my little story about trolls in Sweden.
>>
>> --
>> Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)
>
> Actually, I thought you were trying to get sympathy by telling a Saab story.
> =D
> Dave

Puns like that make me cry :)

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)
 
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Gene E. Bloch

Flightless Bird
On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 11:49:18 -0500, Char Jackson wrote:

> On Thu, 9 Sep 2010 22:17:07 -0500, "Dave" <dave@unknown.com> wrote:
>
>>Correct me if I'm wrong, but if I hit the "Reply" button instead of "Reply
>>Group" then the message will come to your email address. Or does it rely on
>>the address you have listed and if it's a dud then the message goes into
>>limbo?
>>Dave
>
> On a sort-of-related note, the domain you've chosen is valid, which
> probably wasn't your intention. Unknown.com sounds made up, but it's
> real.

As you know and as you do, but Ken Blake does not do and might not know,
the correct way to make an invalid domain is to let the top level domain
(the part of the address after the last dot, such as com, net, or uk) be
the string "invalid" (no quotes, of course), such as what I use,
not-me@other.invalid.

If one does that, it doesn't matter what the other parts of the address
are, the address is guaranteed to be invalid, and will not impinge by
accident or otherwise on a valid domain.

You could even hide a correct domain name that way, for instance, if Ken
Blake used kblake@this.is.com.invalid instead of
kblake@this.is.invalid.com, where for the sake of illustration I am
pretending that his correct address is kblake@this.is.com (which, by the
way, is a *possible* legitimate address, as is
kblake@this.is.invalid.com).

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)
 
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Char Jackson

Flightless Bird
On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 14:01:51 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
<not-me@other.invalid> wrote:

>On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 11:49:18 -0500, Char Jackson wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 9 Sep 2010 22:17:07 -0500, "Dave" <dave@unknown.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Correct me if I'm wrong, but if I hit the "Reply" button instead of "Reply
>>>Group" then the message will come to your email address. Or does it rely on
>>>the address you have listed and if it's a dud then the message goes into
>>>limbo?
>>>Dave
>>
>> On a sort-of-related note, the domain you've chosen is valid, which
>> probably wasn't your intention. Unknown.com sounds made up, but it's
>> real.
>
>As you know and as you do, but Ken Blake does not do and might not know,
>the correct way to make an invalid domain is to let the top level domain
>(the part of the address after the last dot, such as com, net, or uk) be
>the string "invalid" (no quotes, of course), such as what I use,
>not-me@other.invalid.
>
>If one does that, it doesn't matter what the other parts of the address
>are, the address is guaranteed to be invalid, and will not impinge by
>accident or otherwise on a valid domain.
>
>You could even hide a correct domain name that way, for instance, if Ken
>Blake used kblake@this.is.com.invalid instead of
>kblake@this.is.invalid.com, where for the sake of illustration I am
>pretending that his correct address is kblake@this.is.com (which, by the
>way, is a *possible* legitimate address, as is
>kblake@this.is.invalid.com).

I was making an example of Dave, but you made an equally valid example
of Ken. Thanks for keeping me on my toes. :)

Actually, there are a couple of TLD's (besides .invalid) that were
created just for this purpose, but I don't remember them now.
 
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Ken Blake

Flightless Bird
On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 14:01:51 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
<not-me@other.invalid> wrote:


> As you know and as you do, but Ken Blake does not do and might not know,
> the correct way to make an invalid domain is to let the top level domain
> (the part of the address after the last dot, such as com, net, or uk) be
> the string "invalid" (no quotes, of course), such as what I use,
> not-me@other.invalid.


Granted that that's a good way to do it, but I don't agree that it's
the only "correct" way. Any invalid domain name is just as good.

The only argument for your point of view that I can think of is that a
domain name like "this.is.invalid.com" might be invalid today, but
despite how unlikely it might be, someone could actually create such a
domain at some time in the future. And the top-level domain "invalid"
is not just an arbitrary invalid name, but one that has actually been
set up for that purpose.

So using a top-level domain of "invalid" will guarantee that the
domain is invalid, while using one like "this.is.invalid.com" doesn't
provide the same level of guarantee. But for all intents and purposes,
the two will almost certainly turn out to be equally good.

However, if you know something about it that I don't, I'll give you
opportunity to tell me why you think your way is better than mine, and
to try to convince me. I'd like to read why you feel the way about it
that you do.
 
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Gene E. Bloch

Flightless Bird
On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 15:00:10 -0700, Ken Blake wrote:

> On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 14:01:51 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
> <not-me@other.invalid> wrote:
>
>
>> As you know and as you do, but Ken Blake does not do and might not know,
>> the correct way to make an invalid domain is to let the top level domain
>> (the part of the address after the last dot, such as com, net, or uk) be
>> the string "invalid" (no quotes, of course), such as what I use,
>> not-me@other.invalid.
>
>
> Granted that that's a good way to do it, but I don't agree that it's
> the only "correct" way. Any invalid domain name is just as good.
>
> The only argument for your point of view that I can think of is that a
> domain name like "this.is.invalid.com" might be invalid today, but
> despite how unlikely it might be, someone could actually create such a
> domain at some time in the future. And the top-level domain "invalid"
> is not just an arbitrary invalid name, but one that has actually been
> set up for that purpose.
>
> So using a top-level domain of "invalid" will guarantee that the
> domain is invalid, while using one like "this.is.invalid.com" doesn't
> provide the same level of guarantee. But for all intents and purposes,
> the two will almost certainly turn out to be equally good.
>
> However, if you know something about it that I don't, I'll give you
> opportunity to tell me why you think your way is better than mine, and
> to try to convince me. I'd like to read why you feel the way about it
> that you do.

I think you provided the desired answer yourself :)

I quote:
"So using a top-level domain of "invalid" will guarantee that the
domain is invalid, while using one like "this.is.invalid.com" doesn't
provide the same level of guarantee."

I didn't know of the other TLDs mentioned by Char Jackson. Nice to know
about that; if only someone could remember them :)

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)
 
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Ken Blake

Flightless Bird
On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:56:12 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
<not-me@other.invalid> wrote:

> On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 15:00:10 -0700, Ken Blake wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 14:01:51 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
> > <not-me@other.invalid> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> As you know and as you do, but Ken Blake does not do and might not know,
> >> the correct way to make an invalid domain is to let the top level domain
> >> (the part of the address after the last dot, such as com, net, or uk) be
> >> the string "invalid" (no quotes, of course), such as what I use,
> >> not-me@other.invalid.
> >
> >
> > Granted that that's a good way to do it, but I don't agree that it's
> > the only "correct" way. Any invalid domain name is just as good.
> >
> > The only argument for your point of view that I can think of is that a
> > domain name like "this.is.invalid.com" might be invalid today, but
> > despite how unlikely it might be, someone could actually create such a
> > domain at some time in the future. And the top-level domain "invalid"
> > is not just an arbitrary invalid name, but one that has actually been
> > set up for that purpose.
> >
> > So using a top-level domain of "invalid" will guarantee that the
> > domain is invalid, while using one like "this.is.invalid.com" doesn't
> > provide the same level of guarantee. But for all intents and purposes,
> > the two will almost certainly turn out to be equally good.
> >
> > However, if you know something about it that I don't, I'll give you
> > opportunity to tell me why you think your way is better than mine, and
> > to try to convince me. I'd like to read why you feel the way about it
> > that you do.
>
> I think you provided the desired answer yourself :)
>
> I quote:
> "So using a top-level domain of "invalid" will guarantee that the
> domain is invalid, while using one like "this.is.invalid.com" doesn't
> provide the same level of guarantee."


No, not the same level, but so close as to make no real difference.
 
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Char Jackson

Flightless Bird
On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:56:12 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
<not-me@other.invalid> wrote:

>On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 15:00:10 -0700, Ken Blake wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 14:01:51 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
>> <not-me@other.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> As you know and as you do, but Ken Blake does not do and might not know,
>>> the correct way to make an invalid domain is to let the top level domain
>>> (the part of the address after the last dot, such as com, net, or uk) be
>>> the string "invalid" (no quotes, of course), such as what I use,
>>> not-me@other.invalid.
>>
>>
>> Granted that that's a good way to do it, but I don't agree that it's
>> the only "correct" way. Any invalid domain name is just as good.
>>
>> The only argument for your point of view that I can think of is that a
>> domain name like "this.is.invalid.com" might be invalid today, but
>> despite how unlikely it might be, someone could actually create such a
>> domain at some time in the future. And the top-level domain "invalid"
>> is not just an arbitrary invalid name, but one that has actually been
>> set up for that purpose.
>>
>> So using a top-level domain of "invalid" will guarantee that the
>> domain is invalid, while using one like "this.is.invalid.com" doesn't
>> provide the same level of guarantee. But for all intents and purposes,
>> the two will almost certainly turn out to be equally good.
>>
>> However, if you know something about it that I don't, I'll give you
>> opportunity to tell me why you think your way is better than mine, and
>> to try to convince me. I'd like to read why you feel the way about it
>> that you do.
>
>I think you provided the desired answer yourself :)
>
>I quote:
>"So using a top-level domain of "invalid" will guarantee that the
>domain is invalid, while using one like "this.is.invalid.com" doesn't
>provide the same level of guarantee."
>
>I didn't know of the other TLDs mentioned by Char Jackson. Nice to know
>about that; if only someone could remember them :)

I think I was thinking about RFC 2606:
<http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2606.html>
which lists these invalid domains.

<quote>
....four domain names are reserved as listed and described below.

.test
.example
.invalid
.localhost

".test" is recommended for use in testing of current or new DNS
related code.

".example" is recommended for use in documentation or as examples.

".invalid" is intended for use in online construction of domain
names that are sure to be invalid and which it is obvious at a
glance are invalid.

The ".localhost" TLD has traditionally been statically defined in
host DNS implementations as having an A record pointing to the
loop back IP address and is reserved for such use. Any other use
would conflict with widely deployed code which assumes this use.

3. Reserved Example Second Level Domain Names

The Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) also currently has
the following second level domain names reserved which can be used
as examples.

example.com
example.net
example.org

</quote>

In addition to those, me@privacy.net used to be suggested as a good
fake address to use, but apparently the privacy.net domain has been
sold and the new owners are no longer promoting this use of their
domain.
 
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Dave

Flightless Bird
"Char Jackson" <none@none.invalid> wrote in message
news:26ok869kc92ldb0iqidk8v33jdulaspdvc@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 9 Sep 2010 22:17:07 -0500, "Dave" <dave@unknown.com> wrote:
>
>>Correct me if I'm wrong, but if I hit the "Reply" button instead of "Reply
>>Group" then the message will come to your email address. Or does it rely
>>on
>>the address you have listed and if it's a dud then the message goes into
>>limbo?
>>Dave
>
> On a sort-of-related note, the domain you've chosen is valid, which
> probably wasn't your intention. Unknown.com sounds made up, but it's
> real.
>

Thanks for the tip, I changed it to incorporate yours and Gene's
suggestions.
Maybe I'll stop getting some of the spam I get now. =D
 
D

Dave

Flightless Bird
"Ken Blake" <kblake@this.is.invalid.com> wrote in message
news:c5jk86hafvch3h1bnot8oghvov8dgemv9p@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 9 Sep 2010 22:17:07 -0500, "Dave" <dave@unknown.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> "Ken Blake" <kblake@this.is.invalid.com> wrote in message
>> news:j27f8654qgcnbdie5j5ishdcutveavo7r4@4ax.com...
>
>
>> > As far as I'm concerned, there are *two* reasons why I don't use my
>> > real e-mail address in newsgroups:
>> >
>> > 1. It can be harvested by spammers (that's probably the reason you
>> > meant).
>> >
>> > 2. I don't want to get e-mail replies to my posted messages. If you
>> > want to reply to me, reply in the newsgroup.
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Correct me if I'm wrong, but if I hit the "Reply" button instead of
>> "Reply
>> Group" then the message will come to your email address. Or does it rely
>> on
>> the address you have listed and if it's a dud then the message goes into
>> limbo?
>
>
> It will be sent to the return address that I have configured my e-mail
> client (Agent) to use. In my case, as you can see from the above,
> that's kblake@this.is.invalid.com.
>
> As you might guess, that's not my real e-mail address, and it
> presumably is an address that doesn't exist. So the result will be
> that you will get an error message to that effect.
>
> Feel free to try it, and reply to kblake@this.is.invalid.com.
>

I sent a message with "test" in it via the reply button and this reply via
the reply group.
 
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Char Jackson

Flightless Bird
On Sat, 11 Sep 2010 12:34:24 -0500, "Dave" <dave@invalid.unk> wrote:

>
>"Char Jackson" <none@none.invalid> wrote in message
>news:26ok869kc92ldb0iqidk8v33jdulaspdvc@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 9 Sep 2010 22:17:07 -0500, "Dave" <dave@unknown.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Correct me if I'm wrong, but if I hit the "Reply" button instead of "Reply
>>>Group" then the message will come to your email address. Or does it rely
>>>on
>>>the address you have listed and if it's a dud then the message goes into
>>>limbo?
>>>Dave
>>
>> On a sort-of-related note, the domain you've chosen is valid, which
>> probably wasn't your intention. Unknown.com sounds made up, but it's
>> real.
>>
>
>Thanks for the tip, I changed it to incorporate yours and Gene's
>suggestions.
>Maybe I'll stop getting some of the spam I get now. =D

The .invalid is more or less supposed to be at the end of the address,
not in the middle... :)

I don't know if .unk is a valid domain, (too lazy to check), but if
it's not, it probably could be in the future.
 
R

Roy Smith

Flightless Bird
On 9/11/2010 12:34 PM, Dave wrote:
>
> "Char Jackson" <none@none.invalid> wrote in message
> news:26ok869kc92ldb0iqidk8v33jdulaspdvc@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 9 Sep 2010 22:17:07 -0500, "Dave" <dave@unknown.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Correct me if I'm wrong, but if I hit the "Reply" button instead of
>>> "Reply
>>> Group" then the message will come to your email address. Or does it
>>> rely on
>>> the address you have listed and if it's a dud then the message goes into
>>> limbo?
>>> Dave
>>
>> On a sort-of-related note, the domain you've chosen is valid, which
>> probably wasn't your intention. Unknown.com sounds made up, but it's
>> real.
>>
>
> Thanks for the tip, I changed it to incorporate yours and Gene's
> suggestions.
> Maybe I'll stop getting some of the spam I get now. =D

Sorry but if spammer's have already harvested your email address, then
it's too late. In a sense it's like closing the barn door after the
horse got out. :)


--

Roy Smith
Windows 7 Professional
Thunderbird 3.1.3
Sunday, September 12, 2010 5:21:58 AM
 
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Gene E. Bloch

Flightless Bird
On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 18:51:37 -0700, Ken Blake wrote:

> On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:56:12 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
> <not-me@other.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 15:00:10 -0700, Ken Blake wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 14:01:51 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
>>> <not-me@other.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> As you know and as you do, but Ken Blake does not do and might not know,
>>>> the correct way to make an invalid domain is to let the top level domain
>>>> (the part of the address after the last dot, such as com, net, or uk) be
>>>> the string "invalid" (no quotes, of course), such as what I use,
>>>> not-me@other.invalid.
>>>
>>>
>>> Granted that that's a good way to do it, but I don't agree that it's
>>> the only "correct" way. Any invalid domain name is just as good.
>>>
>>> The only argument for your point of view that I can think of is that a
>>> domain name like "this.is.invalid.com" might be invalid today, but
>>> despite how unlikely it might be, someone could actually create such a
>>> domain at some time in the future. And the top-level domain "invalid"
>>> is not just an arbitrary invalid name, but one that has actually been
>>> set up for that purpose.
>>>
>>> So using a top-level domain of "invalid" will guarantee that the
>>> domain is invalid, while using one like "this.is.invalid.com" doesn't
>>> provide the same level of guarantee. But for all intents and purposes,
>>> the two will almost certainly turn out to be equally good.
>>>
>>> However, if you know something about it that I don't, I'll give you
>>> opportunity to tell me why you think your way is better than mine, and
>>> to try to convince me. I'd like to read why you feel the way about it
>>> that you do.
>>
>> I think you provided the desired answer yourself :)
>>
>> I quote:
>> "So using a top-level domain of "invalid" will guarantee that the
>> domain is invalid, while using one like "this.is.invalid.com" doesn't
>> provide the same level of guarantee."
>
>
> No, not the same level, but so close as to make no real difference.

No. I have seen a number of posts on Usenet telling various posters that
their fake-seeming domains were actually valid domains.

Don't ask - I haven't kept a record of them :)

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)
 
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