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is Outlook free on new Win7 machines

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Tattoo Vampire

Flightless Bird
Agent_C wrote:

> It really doesn't matter... At the end of the day the question is
> simply whether Windows still comes with a free email client or not.

And the answer is no, since you have to download and install Windows Live
Mail. :p

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MikeS

Flightless Bird
Re: is Outlook free on new Win7 machines... Thanks to all posters

On 06/21/2010 04:56 AM, Tattoo Vampire wrote:
> Agent_C wrote:
>
>> It really doesn't matter... At the end of the day the question is
>> simply whether Windows still comes with a free email client or not.
>
> And the answer is no, since you have to download and install Windows Live
> Mail. :p

My buddy bought a Win7 box and is getting the latest version of Office,
so now we can get to learn how to import his contact lists and messages.

Thank you to everyone who posted,
 
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John Ferrell

Flightless Bird
Re: is Outlook free on new Win7 machines... Thanks to all posters

On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 05:04:41 -0700, MikeS <mscir@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On 06/21/2010 04:56 AM, Tattoo Vampire wrote:
>> Agent_C wrote:
>>
>>> It really doesn't matter... At the end of the day the question is
>>> simply whether Windows still comes with a free email client or not.
>>
>> And the answer is no, since you have to download and install Windows Live
>> Mail. :p
>
>My buddy bought a Win7 box and is getting the latest version of Office,
>so now we can get to learn how to import his contact lists and messages.
>
>Thank you to everyone who posted,

Thunderbird is great for those of us who have big files of messages
stored. It is what Outlook Express should have become. It imports
everything from OE except the message filters and most folks probably
need to freshen those up anyway... Win 7 looks like a winner to me, I
just have to get intimate with it!
John Ferrell W8CCW
 
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Alias

Flightless Bird
Re: is Outlook free on new Win7 machines... Thanks to all posters

On 6/21/2010 3:55 PM, John Ferrell wrote:

> Thunderbird is great for those of us who have big files of messages
> stored.
> John Ferrell W8CCW

How big can T-Bird take?

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Alias

Flightless Bird
On 6/20/2010 7:59 PM, Death wrote:
> "Alias"<aka@hewhoismasked&anonymous.com> wrote in message
> news:hvlipi$6qp$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>> On 06/20/2010 06:32 PM, Dave "Crash" Dummy wrote:
>>> Ken Blake wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 07:57:05 -0700, MikeS<mscir@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> <snipped>
>>>
>>>> 5. Windows 7 comes with *no* e-mail or newsgroup program. Although
>>>> many people object to this, I think it's a step in the right
>>>> direction, since it leaves everyone more free to choose whatever
>>>> program(s) he likes best.
>>>
>>> That's bull. People have ALWAYS been able to choose the mail client they
>>> like best. My choice was always Outlook Express, and that choice has now
>>> been taken from me.
>>
>> It doesn't have spell check, junk filters and can explode if the message
>> store gets too big. Backing it up is a pain and so is restoring it. It's
>> nick name is Outhouse Distress. The only thing good about it is the
>> multiple sig feature. You can, however, choose OE if you run Win 7 Pro or
>> Ultimate with the virtual XP trip so it really hasn't been taken away from
>> you.
>>
>>
>
> Aiyeeee ... its gonna explode.

I see you're still having problems with metaphors. Want to see what
happens? Let your Inbox get to over a gig and when you are compacting
your messages, pull the plug to the computer. Not everyone has an UPS,
you know.

> Mine has got spelll chek enabled.
>

No real time as you type spell checking unless you've installed a third
party application. And, as I commented before, no junk filter and third
party applications such as Spam Inspector don't play well with OE.

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Alias

Flightless Bird
On 06/21/2010 05:12 AM, Agent_C wrote:
> On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 17:10:57 -0400, "SC Tom"<sc@tom.net> wrote:
>
>> Windows Live Mail is not Outlook Express renamed. Even though the look is
>> similar, it's an entirely different program.
>
> It really doesn't matter... At the end of the day the question is
> simply whether Windows still comes with a free email client or not.
>
> A_C
>
>

My Acer laptops came with Windows Live Mail but I'm sure that Acer put
that there, not Microsoft.

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Peter Foldes

Flightless Bird
In Outlook (OL) it is Archiving
In Outlook Express(OE) it is Compacting

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"Alias" <aka@maskedandanomymous.net.invalido> wrote in message
news:hvntul$25q$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> On 6/20/2010 7:59 PM, Death wrote:
>> "Alias"<aka@hewhoismasked&anonymous.com> wrote in message
>> news:hvlipi$6qp$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>> On 06/20/2010 06:32 PM, Dave "Crash" Dummy wrote:
>>>> Ken Blake wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 07:57:05 -0700, MikeS<mscir@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> <snipped>
>>>>
>>>>> 5. Windows 7 comes with *no* e-mail or newsgroup program. Although
>>>>> many people object to this, I think it's a step in the right
>>>>> direction, since it leaves everyone more free to choose whatever
>>>>> program(s) he likes best.
>>>>
>>>> That's bull. People have ALWAYS been able to choose the mail client they
>>>> like best. My choice was always Outlook Express, and that choice has now
>>>> been taken from me.
>>>
>>> It doesn't have spell check, junk filters and can explode if the message
>>> store gets too big. Backing it up is a pain and so is restoring it. It's
>>> nick name is Outhouse Distress. The only thing good about it is the
>>> multiple sig feature. You can, however, choose OE if you run Win 7 Pro or
>>> Ultimate with the virtual XP trip so it really hasn't been taken away from
>>> you.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Aiyeeee ... its gonna explode.
>
> I see you're still having problems with metaphors. Want to see what happens? Let
> your Inbox get to over a gig and when you are compacting your messages, pull the
> plug to the computer. Not everyone has an UPS, you know.
>
>> Mine has got spelll chek enabled.
>>
>
> No real time as you type spell checking unless you've installed a third party
> application. And, as I commented before, no junk filter and third party
> applications such as Spam Inspector don't play well with OE.
>
> --
> Alias
 
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Gerry Atricks

Flightless Bird
"Gordon" <gordonbparker@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:hvljbt$h0a$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>
> "Dave "Crash" Dummy" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
> news:iorTn.83568$HG1.59108@newsfe21.iad...
>> Ken Blake wrote:
>>> On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 07:57:05 -0700, MikeS <mscir@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> <snipped>
>>
>>> 5. Windows 7 comes with *no* e-mail or newsgroup program. Although many
>>> people object to this, I think it's a step in the right direction, since
>>> it leaves everyone more free to choose whatever program(s) he likes
>>> best.
>>
>> That's bull. People have ALWAYS been able to choose the mail client they
>> like best.
>
> Bull yourself. What do the MAJORITY do? "Choose" what's dished up to them
> on a plate.

You really are an asshole.
 
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LouB

Flightless Bird
Ken Blake wrote:
> On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 17:10:57 -0400, "SC Tom" <sc@tom.net> wrote:
>
>
>> "Agent_C" <agent-c-hates-spam@nyc.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:6qms1613nvjkspk1u6i4p3givttso08ge0@4ax.com...
>>> On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 07:57:05 -0700, MikeS <mscir@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> A friend of mine has a dying XP machine and he's considering what to
>>>> buy. If he buys a new Win7 box will Outlook come with it, or will he
>>>> have to purchase Office to get it?
>>> If you're referring to Outlook [Express]; essentially yes, it's still
>>> free, but it's now called Windows Live Mail.
>>>
>>> It doesn't come packaged with W7, it's a separate free download.
>>>
>>> http://explore.live.com/windows-live-mail
>>>
>>> A_C
>>>
>> Windows Live Mail is not Outlook Express renamed. Even though the look is
>> similar, it's an entirely different program.
>
>
>
> In one sense, you are right of course. But in another sense, it's not
> *renamed* Outlook Express, but it is a later version of Outlook
> Express. Windows Mail was a later version, and now Windows Live Mail
> is a still later version.
>
> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003

Your reply is why I look for your answers:))

A lurker.
 
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Peter Foldes

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"Gerry Atricks" <gerry@atricks.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> "Gordon" <gordonbparker@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:hvljbt$h0a$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>
>> "Dave "Crash" Dummy" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:iorTn.83568$HG1.59108@newsfe21.iad...
>>> Ken Blake wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 07:57:05 -0700, MikeS <mscir@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> <snipped>
>>>
>>>> 5. Windows 7 comes with *no* e-mail or newsgroup program. Although many people
>>>> object to this, I think it's a step in the right direction, since it leaves
>>>> everyone more free to choose whatever program(s) he likes best.
>>>
>>> That's bull. People have ALWAYS been able to choose the mail client they
>>> like best.
>>
>> Bull yourself. What do the MAJORITY do? "Choose" what's dished up to them on a
>> plate.
>
> You really are an asshole.
>
>
 
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Ken Blake

Flightless Bird
On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 13:43:02 -0400, LouB <Lou@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> Ken Blake wrote:

> > In one sense, you are right of course. But in another sense, it's not
> > *renamed* Outlook Express, but it is a later version of Outlook
> > Express. Windows Mail was a later version, and now Windows Live Mail
> > is a still later version.
> >
> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
>
> Your reply is why I look for your answers:))


Thanks for the kind words.

Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
 
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Gordon

Flightless Bird
"Gerry Atricks" <gerry@atricks.com> wrote in message
news:4c1fa294$1@news.x-privat.org...
>
>
> "Gordon" <gordonbparker@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:hvljbt$h0a$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>
>> "Dave "Crash" Dummy" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:iorTn.83568$HG1.59108@newsfe21.iad...
>>> Ken Blake wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 07:57:05 -0700, MikeS <mscir@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> <snipped>
>>>
>>>> 5. Windows 7 comes with *no* e-mail or newsgroup program. Although many
>>>> people object to this, I think it's a step in the right direction,
>>>> since it leaves everyone more free to choose whatever program(s) he
>>>> likes best.
>>>
>>> That's bull. People have ALWAYS been able to choose the mail client they
>>> like best.
>>
>> Bull yourself. What do the MAJORITY do? "Choose" what's dished up to them
>> on a plate.
>
> You really are an asshole.
>
>

Not at all. that's EXACTLY what happens.
OE and IE. "Why should I bother to find another email client or browser when
I've already got one?"
If YOU think that is people "choosing" whichever email client they want or
whichever browser they want then you've got a very weird definition of
"choice"...
 
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Alias

Flightless Bird
On 06/21/2010 08:05 PM, Gordon wrote:
>
> "Gerry Atricks" <gerry@atricks.com> wrote in message
> news:4c1fa294$1@news.x-privat.org...
>>
>>
>> "Gordon" <gordonbparker@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:hvljbt$h0a$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>
>>> "Dave "Crash" Dummy" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:iorTn.83568$HG1.59108@newsfe21.iad...
>>>> Ken Blake wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 07:57:05 -0700, MikeS <mscir@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> <snipped>
>>>>
>>>>> 5. Windows 7 comes with *no* e-mail or newsgroup program. Although
>>>>> many people object to this, I think it's a step in the right
>>>>> direction, since it leaves everyone more free to choose whatever
>>>>> program(s) he likes best.
>>>>
>>>> That's bull. People have ALWAYS been able to choose the mail client
>>>> they
>>>> like best.
>>>
>>> Bull yourself. What do the MAJORITY do? "Choose" what's dished up to
>>> them on a plate.
>>
>> You really are an asshole.
>>
>>
>
> Not at all. that's EXACTLY what happens.
> OE and IE. "Why should I bother to find another email client or browser
> when I've already got one?"
> If YOU think that is people "choosing" whichever email client they want
> or whichever browser they want then you've got a very weird definition
> of "choice"...

In Europe, we get to choose browsers.

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Frank

Flightless Bird
On 6/21/2010 11:21 AM, Alias wrote:
> On 06/21/2010 08:05 PM, Gordon wrote:
>>
>> "Gerry Atricks" <gerry@atricks.com> wrote in message
>> news:4c1fa294$1@news.x-privat.org...
>>>
>>>
>>> "Gordon" <gordonbparker@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:hvljbt$h0a$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>
>>>> "Dave "Crash" Dummy" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
>>>> news:iorTn.83568$HG1.59108@newsfe21.iad...
>>>>> Ken Blake wrote:
>>>>>> On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 07:57:05 -0700, MikeS <mscir@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> <snipped>
>>>>>
>>>>>> 5. Windows 7 comes with *no* e-mail or newsgroup program. Although
>>>>>> many people object to this, I think it's a step in the right
>>>>>> direction, since it leaves everyone more free to choose whatever
>>>>>> program(s) he likes best.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's bull. People have ALWAYS been able to choose the mail client
>>>>> they
>>>>> like best.
>>>>
>>>> Bull yourself. What do the MAJORITY do? "Choose" what's dished up to
>>>> them on a plate.
>>>
>>> You really are an asshole.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Not at all. that's EXACTLY what happens.
>> OE and IE. "Why should I bother to find another email client or browser
>> when I've already got one?"
>> If YOU think that is people "choosing" whichever email client they want
>> or whichever browser they want then you've got a very weird definition
>> of "choice"...
>
> In Europe, we get to choose browsers.
>
In Europe, you're "forced' to make a choice. In America, we have a real
choice, that being, to chose or not to chose.
 
S

SC Tom

Flightless Bird
"Gordon" <gordonbparker@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:hvo9m3$8k6$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>
> "Gerry Atricks" <gerry@atricks.com> wrote in message
> news:4c1fa294$1@news.x-privat.org...
>>
>>
>> "Gordon" <gordonbparker@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:hvljbt$h0a$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>
>>> "Dave "Crash" Dummy" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:iorTn.83568$HG1.59108@newsfe21.iad...
>>>> Ken Blake wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 07:57:05 -0700, MikeS <mscir@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> <snipped>
>>>>
>>>>> 5. Windows 7 comes with *no* e-mail or newsgroup program. Although
>>>>> many people object to this, I think it's a step in the right
>>>>> direction, since it leaves everyone more free to choose whatever
>>>>> program(s) he likes best.
>>>>
>>>> That's bull. People have ALWAYS been able to choose the mail client
>>>> they
>>>> like best.
>>>
>>> Bull yourself. What do the MAJORITY do? "Choose" what's dished up to
>>> them on a plate.
>>
>> You really are an asshole.
>>
>>
>
> Not at all. that's EXACTLY what happens.
> OE and IE. "Why should I bother to find another email client or browser
> when I've already got one?"
> If YOU think that is people "choosing" whichever email client they want or
> whichever browser they want then you've got a very weird definition of
> "choice"...
It's still choosing. If I choose to stay with what came with the system
instead of looking around, it's still a choice :)
I tried other mail and news clients, both MS and non-MS, besides OE, and
ended up coming back to it because I liked it best.
When I went from Vista to 7, I tried other clients also, but went with WLM.
There were others that were near as good, but I stayed with WLM since I was
comfortable with it. It's not the "spiffiest" looking kid on the block, but
works well and has all I need in one spot.
Same story with browsers. I tried others, but chose to come back to IE. The
only one I would have stayed with (if it was still around) other than IE was
Netscape Navigator. Does that mean I had no choice in choosing what I want?
Not in my book. . .
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Alias

Flightless Bird
On 6/21/2010 8:54 PM, SC Tom wrote:
>
> "Gordon" <gordonbparker@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:hvo9m3$8k6$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>
>> "Gerry Atricks" <gerry@atricks.com> wrote in message
>> news:4c1fa294$1@news.x-privat.org...
>>>
>>>
>>> "Gordon" <gordonbparker@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:hvljbt$h0a$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>
>>>> "Dave "Crash" Dummy" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
>>>> news:iorTn.83568$HG1.59108@newsfe21.iad...
>>>>> Ken Blake wrote:
>>>>>> On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 07:57:05 -0700, MikeS <mscir@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> <snipped>
>>>>>
>>>>>> 5. Windows 7 comes with *no* e-mail or newsgroup program. Although
>>>>>> many people object to this, I think it's a step in the right
>>>>>> direction, since it leaves everyone more free to choose whatever
>>>>>> program(s) he likes best.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's bull. People have ALWAYS been able to choose the mail client
>>>>> they
>>>>> like best.
>>>>
>>>> Bull yourself. What do the MAJORITY do? "Choose" what's dished up to
>>>> them on a plate.
>>>
>>> You really are an asshole.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Not at all. that's EXACTLY what happens.
>> OE and IE. "Why should I bother to find another email client or
>> browser when I've already got one?"
>> If YOU think that is people "choosing" whichever email client they
>> want or whichever browser they want then you've got a very weird
>> definition of "choice"...
> It's still choosing. If I choose to stay with what came with the system
> instead of looking around, it's still a choice :)
> I tried other mail and news clients, both MS and non-MS, besides OE, and
> ended up coming back to it because I liked it best.
> When I went from Vista to 7, I tried other clients also, but went with
> WLM. There were others that were near as good, but I stayed with WLM
> since I was comfortable with it. It's not the "spiffiest" looking kid on
> the block, but works well and has all I need in one spot.
> Same story with browsers. I tried others, but chose to come back to IE.
> The only one I would have stayed with (if it was still around) other
> than IE was Netscape Navigator. Does that mean I had no choice in
> choosing what I want? Not in my book. . .

Most people aren't savvy enough to even know they can use something
else. The proof of this is when MS bundled IE with Windows, Netscape
ended up dead.

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Frank

Flightless Bird
On 6/21/2010 11:56 AM, Alias wrote:
> On 6/21/2010 8:54 PM, SC Tom wrote:
>>
>> "Gordon" <gordonbparker@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:hvo9m3$8k6$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>
>>> "Gerry Atricks" <gerry@atricks.com> wrote in message
>>> news:4c1fa294$1@news.x-privat.org...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Gordon" <gordonbparker@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:hvljbt$h0a$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Dave "Crash" Dummy" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>> news:iorTn.83568$HG1.59108@newsfe21.iad...
>>>>>> Ken Blake wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 07:57:05 -0700, MikeS <mscir@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <snipped>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 5. Windows 7 comes with *no* e-mail or newsgroup program. Although
>>>>>>> many people object to this, I think it's a step in the right
>>>>>>> direction, since it leaves everyone more free to choose whatever
>>>>>>> program(s) he likes best.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's bull. People have ALWAYS been able to choose the mail client
>>>>>> they
>>>>>> like best.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bull yourself. What do the MAJORITY do? "Choose" what's dished up to
>>>>> them on a plate.
>>>>
>>>> You really are an asshole.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Not at all. that's EXACTLY what happens.
>>> OE and IE. "Why should I bother to find another email client or
>>> browser when I've already got one?"
>>> If YOU think that is people "choosing" whichever email client they
>>> want or whichever browser they want then you've got a very weird
>>> definition of "choice"...
>> It's still choosing. If I choose to stay with what came with the system
>> instead of looking around, it's still a choice :)
>> I tried other mail and news clients, both MS and non-MS, besides OE, and
>> ended up coming back to it because I liked it best.
>> When I went from Vista to 7, I tried other clients also, but went with
>> WLM. There were others that were near as good, but I stayed with WLM
>> since I was comfortable with it. It's not the "spiffiest" looking kid on
>> the block, but works well and has all I need in one spot.
>> Same story with browsers. I tried others, but chose to come back to IE.
>> The only one I would have stayed with (if it was still around) other
>> than IE was Netscape Navigator. Does that mean I had no choice in
>> choosing what I want? Not in my book. . .
>
> Most people aren't savvy enough to even know they can use something
> else.

Those who care, do know. Those who don't, don't care.

The proof of this is when MS bundled IE with Windows, Netscape
> ended up dead.
>
That only proves that MS has/had more marketing savvy than Netscape did.
 
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Zaphod Beeblebrox

Flightless Bird
"Gordon" <gordonbparker@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:hvo9m3$8k6$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>
> "Gerry Atricks" <gerry@atricks.com> wrote in message
> news:4c1fa294$1@news.x-privat.org...
>>
>>
>> "Gordon" <gordonbparker@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:hvljbt$h0a$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>
>>> "Dave "Crash" Dummy" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:iorTn.83568$HG1.59108@newsfe21.iad...
>>>> Ken Blake wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 07:57:05 -0700, MikeS <mscir@yahoo.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> <snipped>
>>>>
>>>>> 5. Windows 7 comes with *no* e-mail or newsgroup program.
>>>>> Although many people object to this, I think it's a step in the
>>>>> right direction, since it leaves everyone more free to choose
>>>>> whatever program(s) he likes best.
>>>>
>>>> That's bull. People have ALWAYS been able to choose the mail
>>>> client they
>>>> like best.
>>>
>>> Bull yourself. What do the MAJORITY do? "Choose" what's dished up
>>> to them on a plate.
>>
>> You really are an asshole.
>>
>>
>
> Not at all. that's EXACTLY what happens.
> OE and IE. "Why should I bother to find another email client or
> browser when I've already got one?"
> If YOU think that is people "choosing" whichever email client they
> want or whichever browser they want then you've got a very weird
> definition of "choice"...

In the words of a band I used to listen to, "If you choose not to
decide you still have made a choice!" (Freewill by Rush, on the
Permanent Waves album released 1980)

--
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Arthur: All my life I've had this strange feeling that there's
something big and sinister going on in the world.
Slartibartfast: No, that's perfectly normal paranoia. Everyone in the
universe gets that.
 
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LouB

Flightless Bird
Ken Blake wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 13:43:02 -0400, LouB <Lou@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Ken Blake wrote:
>
>>> In one sense, you are right of course. But in another sense, it's not
>>> *renamed* Outlook Express, but it is a later version of Outlook
>>> Express. Windows Mail was a later version, and now Windows Live Mail
>>> is a still later version.
>>>
>>> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
>> Your reply is why I look for your answers:))
>
>
> Thanks for the kind words.
>
> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003

There is so damn much idiocy in newsgroups I have all but given up.
That said, which if any forums do you like?

Lou
 
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Ken Blake

Flightless Bird
On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 20:51:38 -0400, LouB <Lou@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> Ken Blake wrote:
> > On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 13:43:02 -0400, LouB <Lou@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> >
> >> Ken Blake wrote:
> >
> >>> In one sense, you are right of course. But in another sense, it's not
> >>> *renamed* Outlook Express, but it is a later version of Outlook
> >>> Express. Windows Mail was a later version, and now Windows Live Mail
> >>> is a still later version.
> >>>
> >>> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
> >> Your reply is why I look for your answers:))
> >
> >
> > Thanks for the kind words.
> >
> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
>
> There is so damn much idiocy in newsgroups I have all but given up.
> That said, which if any forums do you like?


They are all pretty much the same. They have their severe
weaknesses--mostly different weaknesses from the newsgroups, but still
present.

I do Microsoft forums using their nntp bridge software, which lets me
participate with a newsreader, rather than on the web. That has its
advantages and disadvantages, for it works much better than IE for me,
since it's much faster.

Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
 
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