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Discussion in 'Windows 7' started by Valorie *~~, Sep 19, 2010.

  1. Valorie *~~

    Valorie *~~ Flightless Bird

    ...... how to gain access to my own PC? I don't feel I own this PC. I feel
    MS owns it. >:-( The information online doesn't work with W-7 Home
    Premium. Although I'm listed as the Admin and I moved the bar to the bottom,
    It still says I need permission to move files. How can I STOP or dismantle
    this &^%$#@ thing so I can move WindowsMail to this PC?
     
  2. Alias

    Alias Flightless Bird

    On 09/18/2010 12:36 PM, Valorie *~~ wrote:
    > ..... how to gain access to my own PC? I don't feel I own this PC. I
    > feel MS owns it. >:-( The information online doesn't work with W-7 Home
    > Premium. Although I'm listed as the Admin and I moved the bar to the
    > bottom, It still says I need permission to move files. How can I STOP or
    > dismantle this &^%$#@ thing so I can move WindowsMail to this PC?


    Give it up. Windows Fail was made for Vista, not for Win 7. Use
    Thunderbird, Pegasus, Outlook, Opera or Seamonkey.

    If you really want to be in control of your computer, ditch Windows and
    install a real operating system like Linux Mint. It's free and comes
    with thousands of free programs including all the email/newsreaders
    available other than MS products and Pegasus. Get it at
    http://www.linuxmint.com/ You'll be glad you did. In fact, you can run
    Windows Fail under Mint in WINE if you really, really want to use that
    FAILED and NO LONGER SUPPORTED program.

    --
    Alias
     
  3. Dave-UK

    Dave-UK Flightless Bird

    "Valorie *~~" <ValMcl@invalid.invalid> wrote in message news:4c949640@news.x-privat.org...
    > ..... how to gain access to my own PC? I don't feel I own this PC. I feel
    > MS owns it. >:-( The information online doesn't work with W-7 Home
    > Premium. Although I'm listed as the Admin and I moved the bar to the bottom,
    > It still says I need permission to move files. How can I STOP or dismantle
    > this &^%$#@ thing so I can move WindowsMail to this PC?
    >


    Windows Mail is obsolete.
    Use Windows Live Mail or choose something else.
    Then you won't have to move or change system files.
     
  4. Nil

    Nil Flightless Bird

    On 18 Sep 2010, "Valorie *~~" <ValMcl@invalid.invalid> wrote in
    alt.windows7.general:

    > ..... how to gain access to my own PC? I don't feel I own this
    > PC. I feel MS owns it. >:-( The information online doesn't work
    > with W-7 Home Premium. Although I'm listed as the Admin and I
    > moved the bar to the bottom, It still says I need permission to
    > move files. How can I STOP or dismantle this &^%$#@ thing so I
    > can move WindowsMail to this PC?


    Whine whine whine

    Provide no content, no information, no details

    Troll troll troll

    Ignore advice

    Whine whine whine some more...
     
  5. Valorie *~~

    Valorie *~~ Flightless Bird

    "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.com.¡nvalidados> wrote in message
    news:i7270e$9n5$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    > On 09/18/2010 12:36 PM, Valorie *~~ wrote:
    >> ..... how to gain access to my own PC? I don't feel I own this PC. I
    >> feel MS owns it. >:-( The information online doesn't work with W-7 Home
    >> Premium. Although I'm listed as the Admin and I moved the bar to the
    >> bottom, It still says I need permission to move files. How can I STOP or
    >> dismantle this &^%$#@ thing so I can move WindowsMail to this PC?

    >
    > Give it up. Windows Fail was made for Vista, not for Win 7. Use
    > Thunderbird, Pegasus, Outlook, Opera or Seamonkey.


    As I said before, I've tried some of these and didn't like them. I have TB
    on the W-7 PC now. Using another client wont help the next time I want to
    move something and get the same "permissions" crap. I'd like to disable the
    damn security thing NOW and not be back in a couple of days because of the
    same thing with some other files. No one here seems to know how it's done
    correctly so the damn "permissions" window don't come up again. User
    Account Control setting's bar doesn't do it. That just stops the other
    window that asks for permission, not tells you you need permission.


    > If you really want to be in control of your computer, ditch Windows and
    > install a real operating system like Linux Mint.


    Why would I want Linux when non of my software would work on it? It's a
    whole different OS.

    It's free and comes
    > with thousands of free programs including all the email/newsreaders
    > available other than MS products and Pegasus. Get it at
    > http://www.linuxmint.com/ You'll be glad you did. In fact, you can run
    > Windows Fail under Mint in WINE if you really, really want to use that
    > FAILED and NO LONGER SUPPORTED program.


    Wine? Mint? !?!??!?! It would cost me over $100 to have a tech-geek come
    out from town and install another OS. I would then lose the warranty on the
    new PC.

    I'm curious. If you have Linux, why are you on a Windows NG?

    >
    > --
    > Alias

    --
    My HP PC is running W-7 64-bit
    Home Premium
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<~~<~<{@
     
  6. ray

    ray Flightless Bird

    On Sat, 18 Sep 2010 08:15:36 -0500, Valorie *~~ wrote:

    > "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.com.¡nvalidados> wrote in message
    > news:i7270e$9n5$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    >> On 09/18/2010 12:36 PM, Valorie *~~ wrote:
    >>> ..... how to gain access to my own PC? I don't feel I own this PC. I
    >>> feel MS owns it. >:-( The information online doesn't work with W-7
    >>> Home Premium. Although I'm listed as the Admin and I moved the bar to
    >>> the bottom, It still says I need permission to move files. How can I
    >>> STOP or dismantle this &^%$#@ thing so I can move WindowsMail to this
    >>> PC?

    >>
    >> Give it up. Windows Fail was made for Vista, not for Win 7. Use
    >> Thunderbird, Pegasus, Outlook, Opera or Seamonkey.

    >
    > As I said before, I've tried some of these and didn't like them. I have
    > TB on the W-7 PC now. Using another client wont help the next time I
    > want to move something and get the same "permissions" crap. I'd like to
    > disable the damn security thing NOW and not be back in a couple of days
    > because of the same thing with some other files. No one here seems to
    > know how it's done correctly so the damn "permissions" window don't come
    > up again. User Account Control setting's bar doesn't do it. That just
    > stops the other window that asks for permission, not tells you you need
    > permission.
    >
    >
    >> If you really want to be in control of your computer, ditch Windows and
    >> install a real operating system like Linux Mint.

    >
    > Why would I want Linux when non of my software would work on it? It's a
    > whole different OS.


    Exactly. Linux allows you to control your computer instead of having it
    control you.

    So your current software would not work - Linux comes with literally
    thousands of applications to do everything the average person would want
    - all for free.

    >
    > It's free and comes
    >> with thousands of free programs including all the email/newsreaders
    >> available other than MS products and Pegasus. Get it at
    >> http://www.linuxmint.com/ You'll be glad you did. In fact, you can run
    >> Windows Fail under Mint in WINE if you really, really want to use that
    >> FAILED and NO LONGER SUPPORTED program.

    >
    > Wine? Mint? !?!??!?! It would cost me over $100 to have a tech-geek
    > come out from town and install another OS. I would then lose the
    > warranty on the new PC.
    >
    > I'm curious. If you have Linux, why are you on a Windows NG?


    To enlighten the unenlightened?

    >
    >
    >> --
    >> Alias
     
  7. Alias

    Alias Flightless Bird

    On 09/18/2010 03:15 PM, Valorie *~~ wrote:
    > "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.com.¡nvalidados> wrote in message
    > news:i7270e$9n5$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    >> On 09/18/2010 12:36 PM, Valorie *~~ wrote:
    >>> ..... how to gain access to my own PC? I don't feel I own this PC. I
    >>> feel MS owns it. >:-( The information online doesn't work with W-7 Home
    >>> Premium. Although I'm listed as the Admin and I moved the bar to the
    >>> bottom, It still says I need permission to move files. How can I STOP or
    >>> dismantle this &^%$#@ thing so I can move WindowsMail to this PC?

    >>
    >> Give it up. Windows Fail was made for Vista, not for Win 7. Use
    >> Thunderbird, Pegasus, Outlook, Opera or Seamonkey.

    >
    > As I said before, I've tried some of these and didn't like them. I have
    > TB on the W-7 PC now. Using another client wont help the next time I
    > want to move something and get the same "permissions" crap. I'd like to
    > disable the damn security thing NOW and not be back in a couple of days
    > because of the same thing with some other files. No one here seems to
    > know how it's done correctly so the damn "permissions" window don't come
    > up again. User Account Control setting's bar doesn't do it. That just
    > stops the other window that asks for permission, not tells you you need
    > permission.


    You've just explained why you shouldn't use Win 7.

    >
    >
    >> If you really want to be in control of your computer, ditch Windows
    >> and install a real operating system like Linux Mint.

    >
    > Why would I want Linux when non of my software would work on it? It's a
    > whole different OS.


    Yep, and MUCH easier to install and MUCH safer and with thousands of
    FREE programs. Which Windows software are you talking about?

    >
    > It's free and comes
    >> with thousands of free programs including all the email/newsreaders
    >> available other than MS products and Pegasus. Get it at
    >> http://www.linuxmint.com/ You'll be glad you did. In fact, you can run
    >> Windows Fail under Mint in WINE if you really, really want to use that
    >> FAILED and NO LONGER SUPPORTED program.

    >
    > Wine? Mint? !?!??!?! It would cost me over $100 to have a tech-geek come
    > out from town and install another OS. I would then lose the warranty on
    > the new PC.


    Use a new hard drive and keep your old hard drive handy in case you need
    warranty work. To install Mint, you just need to download the 32 bit DVD
    (not the CD) image, burn it to a DVD, set your computer to boot from
    your DVD ROM and follow the very simple instructions. It shouldn't take
    you more than an hour. Once done, there will be updates and ALL the
    updates for EVERYTHING on your Linux Mint install will be offered by one
    very obvious orange icon. No need to update each program individually.

    > I'm curious. If you have Linux, why are you on a Windows NG?


    I have both Linux and Win 7. I need to know both to support both.

    --
    Alias
     
  8. Dave \Crash\ Dummy

    Dave \Crash\ Dummy Flightless Bird

    Nil wrote:
    > On 18 Sep 2010, "Valorie *~~" <ValMcl@invalid.invalid> wrote in
    > alt.windows7.general:
    >
    >> ..... how to gain access to my own PC? I don't feel I own this
    >> PC. I feel MS owns it. >:-( The information online doesn't work
    >> with W-7 Home Premium. Although I'm listed as the Admin and I
    >> moved the bar to the bottom, It still says I need permission to
    >> move files. How can I STOP or dismantle this &^%$#@ thing so I
    >> can move WindowsMail to this PC?

    >
    > Whine whine whine
    >
    > Provide no content, no information, no details
    >
    > Troll troll troll
    >
    > Ignore advice
    >
    > Whine whine whine some more...


    I am so sick of this guy that he has gone into my killfile. Unfortunately,
    that doesn't get rid of the responses.
    --
    Crash

    I always thought Mensa was a Japanese import.
     
  9. Nil

    Nil Flightless Bird

    On 18 Sep 2010, "Dave \"Crash\" Dummy" <invalid@invalid.invalid>
    wrote in alt.windows7.general:

    > I am so sick of this guy that he has gone into my killfile.
    > Unfortunately, that doesn't get rid of the responses.


    Not that I care whether you see my posts or not, especially since I've
    never seen you contribute anything useful, but you obviously havent
    been watching MANY people here try to pry the most basic details out of
    her, and give her much good advice that she pointedly ignores in favor
    of more unspecific complaining.

    That classifies as whining and trolling in my book, or close enough.
     
  10. On 9/18/2010 8:15 AM, Valorie *~~ wrote:
    > "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.com.¡nvalidados> wrote in message
    > news:i7270e$9n5$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    >> On 09/18/2010 12:36 PM, Valorie *~~ wrote:
    >>> ..... how to gain access to my own PC? I don't feel I own this PC. I
    >>> feel MS owns it. >:-( The information online doesn't work with W-7 Home
    >>> Premium. Although I'm listed as the Admin and I moved the bar to the
    >>> bottom, It still says I need permission to move files. How can I STOP or
    >>> dismantle this &^%$#@ thing so I can move WindowsMail to this PC?

    >>
    >> Give it up. Windows Fail was made for Vista, not for Win 7. Use
    >> Thunderbird, Pegasus, Outlook, Opera or Seamonkey.

    >
    > As I said before, I've tried some of these and didn't like them. I have
    > TB on the W-7 PC now. Using another client wont help the next time I
    > want to move something and get the same "permissions" crap. I'd like to
    > disable the damn security thing NOW and not be back in a couple of days
    > because of the same thing with some other files. No one here seems to
    > know how it's done correctly so the damn "permissions" window don't come
    > up again. User Account Control setting's bar doesn't do it. That just
    > stops the other window that asks for permission, not tells you you need
    > permission.


    Try this:
    Start > type in the run/search bar 'msconfig' (w/out the quotes) then
    hit enter. Click or double-click on the msconfig result, then on the
    tools tab in the msconfig window, select the "Disable UAC" command,
    then click the run button. Reboot. UAC should be turned off then.

    >
    >
    >> If you really want to be in control of your computer, ditch Windows
    >> and install a real operating system like Linux Mint.

    >
    > Why would I want Linux when non of my software would work on it? It's a
    > whole different OS.
    >
    > It's free and comes
    >> with thousands of free programs including all the email/newsreaders
    >> available other than MS products and Pegasus. Get it at
    >> http://www.linuxmint.com/ You'll be glad you did. In fact, you can run
    >> Windows Fail under Mint in WINE if you really, really want to use that
    >> FAILED and NO LONGER SUPPORTED program.

    >
    > Wine? Mint? !?!??!?! It would cost me over $100 to have a tech-geek come
    > out from town and install another OS. I would then lose the warranty on
    > the new PC.
    >
    > I'm curious. If you have Linux, why are you on a Windows NG?
    >
     
  11. Annie Woughman

    Annie Woughman Flightless Bird

    "Valorie *~~" <ValMcl@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
    news:4c949640@news.x-privat.org...
    > ..... how to gain access to my own PC? I don't feel I own this PC. I
    > feel MS owns it. >:-( The information online doesn't work with W-7 Home
    > Premium. Although I'm listed as the Admin and I moved the bar to the
    > bottom, It still says I need permission to move files. How can I STOP or
    > dismantle this &^%$#@ thing so I can move WindowsMail to this PC?

    It can be done. Google "How to take ownership and full control permissions
    of Files & folders in Windows" There are a lot of good tutorials out there.
    I can now actually open my own files on my own computer without getting that
    dam* red X telling me I don't have permission. It involves a lot of going
    back and forth between sharing and security in folder options, but it can be
    done.
     
  12. Dave \Crash\ Dummy

    Dave \Crash\ Dummy Flightless Bird

    Nil wrote:
    > On 18 Sep 2010, "Dave \"Crash\" Dummy" <invalid@invalid.invalid>
    > wrote in alt.windows7.general:
    >
    >> I am so sick of this guy that he has gone into my killfile.
    >> Unfortunately, that doesn't get rid of the responses.

    >
    > Not that I care whether you see my posts or not, especially since I've
    > never seen you contribute anything useful, but you obviously havent
    > been watching MANY people here try to pry the most basic details out of
    > her, and give her much good advice that she pointedly ignores in favor
    > of more unspecific complaining.
    >
    > That classifies as whining and trolling in my book, or close enough.


    Ah, but I have been watching! That is the point. If her posts and
    dragged on
    threads "classify as whining and trolling," then responding is feeding a
    troll.
    I don't want to eliminate you or any of the other well meaning and informed
    posters from my reading. I just want to avoid the long, drawn out and
    ultimately
    useless threads. When I see a question from Valorie *~~, I know that it
    will be
    answered fully and completely several times, and each time the answers will
    be ignored or misunderstood.

    As far as my not contributing anything useful, when I have something
    useful to
    offer, I do.
    --
    Crash

    "Never underestimate the power of the Dark Side."
    ~ Obi-Wan Kenobi ~
     
  13. milt

    milt Flightless Bird

    On 9/18/2010 8:15 AM, Valorie *~~ wrote:

    > I'm curious. If you have Linux, why are you on a Windows NG?


    Because he is a troll, just killfile him and be done with it.
     
  14. Alias

    Alias Flightless Bird

    On 09/18/2010 06:00 PM, milt wrote:
    > On 9/18/2010 8:15 AM, Valorie *~~ wrote:
    >
    >> I'm curious. If you have Linux, why are you on a Windows NG?

    >
    > Because he is a troll, just killfile him and be done with it.


    Not the reason and the truth is you're a troll, not me.
    --
    Alias
     
  15. Frank

    Frank Flightless Bird

    alais gets his ass kicked...again!...LOL!

    On 9/18/2010 11:04 AM, Alias wrote:
    > On 09/18/2010 06:00 PM, milt wrote:
    >> On 9/18/2010 8:15 AM, Valorie *~~ wrote:
    >>
    >>> I'm curious. If you have Linux, why are you on a Windows NG?

    >>
    >> Because he is a troll, just killfile him and be done with it.

    >
    > Not the reason and the truth is you're a troll, not me.


    Don't you ever get tired of having your spamming, trolling, lying
    linutrd ass kicked in here by everyone?
    You must be really dense and extremely slow cause it's apparent you
    still don't get it.
     
  16. Roy Smith

    Roy Smith Flightless Bird

    On 9/18/2010 9:06 AM, Dave "Crash" Dummy wrote:
    > Nil wrote:
    >> On 18 Sep 2010, "Valorie *~~" <ValMcl@invalid.invalid> wrote in
    >> alt.windows7.general:
    >>> ..... how to gain access to my own PC? I don't feel I own this
    >>> PC. I feel MS owns it. >:-( The information online doesn't work
    >>> with W-7 Home Premium. Although I'm listed as the Admin and I
    >>> moved the bar to the bottom, It still says I need permission to
    >>> move files. How can I STOP or dismantle this &^%$#@ thing so I
    >>> can move WindowsMail to this PC?

    >>
    >> Whine whine whine
    >> Provide no content, no information, no details
    >>
    >> Troll troll troll
    >>
    >> Ignore advice
    >>
    >> Whine whine whine some more...

    >
    > I am so sick of this guy that he has gone into my killfile. Unfortunately,
    > that doesn't get rid of the responses.


    Why not add the option to ignore subthreads? Here's a screenshot to
    give you an idea:

    http://my.jetscreenshot.com/1443/20100918-oy0u-32kb


    --

    Roy Smith
    Windows 7 Professional
    Thunderbird 3.1.4
    Saturday, September 18, 2010 5:18:24 PM
     
  17. B. Al. Zeebub

    B. Al. Zeebub Flightless Bird

    On Sat, 18 Sep 2010 11:28:31 -0400, Dave \"Crash\" Dummy wrote:

    > I don't want to eliminate you or any of the other well meaning and
    > informed posters from my reading. I just want to avoid the long, drawn
    > out and ultimately
    > useless threads.


    Pan will quite happily eliminate threads for you. If you have the Gimp
    installed, Pan should install satisfactorily.
     
  18. Fred Manitoba

    Fred Manitoba Flightless Bird

    Don't listen to Alias - a registered LIAR.

    Windows7 is using newer mail clinet called "Live Mail".
    There's a way to force old WinMail (you wanted it?) to run under Windows7
    but it's probably too complex for you to bother with.

    Simply export all messages to new LiveMail.
    LiveMail has settings to make it behave/look similar to old WinMail.
     
  19. Gordon

    Gordon Flightless Bird

    On 19/09/2010 02:54, Fred Manitoba wrote:
    > Don't listen to Alias - a registered LIAR.


    Where is this "register" of liars?

    >
    > Windows7 is using newer mail clinet called "Live Mail".


    Wrong. Windows 7 comes with NO EMAIL CLIENT at all. Some OEM vendors
    bundle WLM with their install - along with all the other crap like trial
    versions of Office.


    > There's a way to force old WinMail (you wanted it?) to run under
    > Windows7 but it's probably too complex for you to bother with.
    >
    > Simply export all messages to new LiveMail.
    > LiveMail has settings to make it behave/look similar to old WinMail.
     
  20. Dave \Crash\ Dummy

    Dave \Crash\ Dummy Flightless Bird

    Ken Blake wrote:
    > On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 12:17:12 +0100, Gordon <gordonbparker@yahoo.com>
    > wrote:
    >
    >> On 19/09/2010 02:54, Fred Manitoba wrote:
    >>> Don't listen to Alias - a registered LIAR.

    >> Where is this "register" of liars?
    >>
    >>> Windows7 is using newer mail clinet called "Live Mail".

    >> Wrong. Windows 7 comes with NO EMAIL CLIENT at all. Some OEM vendors
    >> bundle WLM with their install - along with all the other crap like trial
    >> versions of Office.

    >
    >
    >
    > And "Live Mail" is not its correct name. It's *Windows* Live Mail.
    >
    > A minor point? Perhaps. But using the wrong name for something--even
    > just a slightly wrong name--can get you into trouble.
    >
    >
    >>> There's a way to force old WinMail (you wanted it?) to run under
    >>> Windows7 but it's probably too complex for you to bother with.

    >
    > "Force" is far too strong a word. It's not complex at all. All you
    > need to do is copy it from a Vista machine,


    Some of us may not have a spare computer with Vista on it. I know I don't.
    I only have one computer, and it has 64 bit Windows 7 on it. How would I
    go about installing Windows Mail, were I so inclined?
    --
    Crash

    "In politics, stupidity is not a handicap."
    ~ Napoleon Bonaparte ~
     

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