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Discussion in 'Windows 7' started by Al Smith, Jan 11, 2010.

  1. Al Smith

    Al Smith Flightless Bird

    Occasionally when I drag or resize a window, my monitor screen
    will suddenly go black. The picture comes back on in two or three
    seconds, and the message pops up that my video card ran into a
    problem but recovered. This has happened six or eight times since
    I got my new Dell Studio XPS 9000 computer with Windows 7 on it.
    My video card is an nVidia GeForce GT 220 with 1024MB of RAM.

    Does anyone know what causes this? I've read numerous accounts of
    exactly the same problem in various forums, but no explanation and
    no certain solution.

    -Al-
     
  2. TheDeadWolf

    TheDeadWolf Flightless Bird

    Al Smith wrote:
    > Occasionally when I drag or resize a window, my monitor screen will
    > suddenly go black. The picture comes back on in two or three seconds,
    > and the message pops up that my video card ran into a problem but
    > recovered. This has happened six or eight times since I got my new Dell
    > Studio XPS 9000 computer with Windows 7 on it. My video card is an
    > nVidia GeForce GT 220 with 1024MB of RAM.
    >
    > Does anyone know what causes this? I've read numerous accounts of
    > exactly the same problem in various forums, but no explanation and no
    > certain solution.
    >
    > -Al-

    Have you checked the drivers are up to date?
    I cant really talk because i am having problems with my computer, but
    usually if something like that happens it will be a driver issue. Check
    the nVidia site and download the latest drivers for your video card.
     
  3. Al Smith

    Al Smith Flightless Bird

    TheDeadWolf wrote:
    > Al Smith wrote:
    >> Occasionally when I drag or resize a window, my monitor screen will
    >> suddenly go black. The picture comes back on in two or three seconds,
    >> and the message pops up that my video card ran into a problem but
    >> recovered. This has happened six or eight times since I got my new
    >> Dell Studio XPS 9000 computer with Windows 7 on it. My video card is
    >> an nVidia GeForce GT 220 with 1024MB of RAM.
    >>
    >> Does anyone know what causes this? I've read numerous accounts of
    >> exactly the same problem in various forums, but no explanation and no
    >> certain solution.
    >>
    >> -Al-

    > Have you checked the drivers are up to date?
    > I cant really talk because i am having problems with my computer, but
    > usually if something like that happens it will be a driver issue. Check
    > the nVidia site and download the latest drivers for your video card.



    That's next on my list. I'm pretty sure there's nothing wrong with
    my video card, because it works just fine all the rest of the
    time. I'm figuring it must be either a glitch with my video card
    driver, or a glitch with Windows 7.

    -Al-
     
  4. Kadaitcha Man

    Kadaitcha Man Flightless Bird

    Some pruned worm-sperm named "Al Smith" yipped:

    >>> my monitor screen will
    >>> suddenly go black. The picture comes back on in two or three seconds,
    >>> and the message pops up that my video card ran into a problem


    [snip]

    > I'm pretty sure there's nothing wrong with my
    > video card


    The OS pops up a message telling you that your video card ran into a
    problem but you're pretty sure there's nothing wrong with it?

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

    Go right ahead, ignore all the advice you've been given and question
    everything you're told, despite your being unable to solve the problem
    yourself.

    You completely stupid dumbfuck cunt.

    --
    Test signature

    Dinner tonight:
    Desecrated turtle head and banana extract accentuated with doomed abscess
    inside feculent bonobo monkey rot, simmered in a wriggling casserole
    overflowing with bloody bamboo, well-spiced assortment of pork and snail
    with leftover jellyfish, dressing, a side of lymphoma and a stein of
    jellied onion.
     
  5. No Spam

    No Spam Flightless Bird

    In article <nSi2n.61032$PH1.34073@edtnps82>
    Al Smith <invalid@address.com> wrote:

    >TheDeadWolf wrote:
    >> Al Smith wrote:
    >>> Occasionally when I drag or resize a window, my monitor screen will
    >>> suddenly go black. The picture comes back on in two or three seconds,
    >>> and the message pops up that my video card ran into a problem but
    >>> recovered. This has happened six or eight times since I got my new
    >>> Dell Studio XPS 9000 computer with Windows 7 on it. My video card is
    >>> an nVidia GeForce GT 220 with 1024MB of RAM.
    >>>
    >>> Does anyone know what causes this? I've read numerous accounts of
    >>> exactly the same problem in various forums, but no explanation and no
    >>> certain solution.
    >>>
    >>> -Al-

    >> Have you checked the drivers are up to date?
    >> I cant really talk because i am having problems with my computer, but
    >> usually if something like that happens it will be a driver issue. Check
    >> the nVidia site and download the latest drivers for your video card.

    >
    >
    >That's next on my list. I'm pretty sure there's nothing wrong with
    >my video card, because it works just fine all the rest of the
    >time. I'm figuring it must be either a glitch with my video card
    >driver, or a glitch with Windows 7.
    >


    That is a known issue in Windows 7.
    My guess that it would be fixed by Microsoft soon.

    It happens no matter if you have your card driver updated and regardless
    of the brand of the card/chipset.
     
  6. Trev

    Trev Flightless Bird

    "No Spam" <nospam@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
    news:d5gjk5du7jn2vdtmtm7n3550trojnspbqc@4ax.com...
    > In article <nSi2n.61032$PH1.34073@edtnps82>
    > Al Smith <invalid@address.com> wrote:
    >
    >>TheDeadWolf wrote:
    >>> Al Smith wrote:
    >>>> Occasionally when I drag or resize a window, my monitor screen will
    >>>> suddenly go black. The picture comes back on in two or three seconds,
    >>>> and the message pops up that my video card ran into a problem but
    >>>> recovered. This has happened six or eight times since I got my new
    >>>> Dell Studio XPS 9000 computer with Windows 7 on it. My video card is
    >>>> an nVidia GeForce GT 220 with 1024MB of RAM.
    >>>>
    >>>> Does anyone know what causes this? I've read numerous accounts of
    >>>> exactly the same problem in various forums, but no explanation and no
    >>>> certain solution.
    >>>>
    >>>> -Al-
    >>> Have you checked the drivers are up to date?
    >>> I cant really talk because i am having problems with my computer, but
    >>> usually if something like that happens it will be a driver issue. Check
    >>> the nVidia site and download the latest drivers for your video card.

    >>
    >>
    >>That's next on my list. I'm pretty sure there's nothing wrong with
    >>my video card, because it works just fine all the rest of the
    >>time. I'm figuring it must be either a glitch with my video card
    >>driver, or a glitch with Windows 7.
    >>

    >
    > That is a known issue in Windows 7.
    > My guess that it would be fixed by Microsoft soon.
    >
    > It happens no matter if you have your card driver updated and regardless
    > of the brand of the card/chipset.


    I must find out whats wrong with my computer as It does not do it
     
  7. Andy

    Andy Flightless Bird

    Al Smith <invalid@address.com> wrote:

    > TheDeadWolf wrote:
    >> Al Smith wrote:
    >>> Occasionally when I drag or resize a window, my monitor screen will
    >>> suddenly go black. The picture comes back on in two or three seconds,
    >>> and the message pops up that my video card ran into a problem but
    >>> recovered. This has happened six or eight times since I got my new
    >>> Dell Studio XPS 9000 computer with Windows 7 on it. My video card is
    >>> an nVidia GeForce GT 220 with 1024MB of RAM.
    >>>
    >>> Does anyone know what causes this? I've read numerous accounts of
    >>> exactly the same problem in various forums, but no explanation and no
    >>> certain solution.
    >>>
    >>> -Al-

    >> Have you checked the drivers are up to date?
    >> I cant really talk because i am having problems with my computer, but
    >> usually if something like that happens it will be a driver issue.

    Check
    >> the nVidia site and download the latest drivers for your video card.

    >
    >
    > That's next on my list. I'm pretty sure there's nothing wrong with
    > my video card, because it works just fine all the rest of the
    > time. I'm figuring it must be either a glitch with my video card
    > driver, or a glitch with Windows 7.
    >
    > -Al-



    I've seen the black screen on occasion. "SpywareBlaster" being a known
    culprit. I just imagined it being a stage of "should I be 32 or 64-bit?"
    or what? Never crashed.

    Andy
    Win7(64)
     
  8. Tony

    Tony Flightless Bird

    Use the maximum resolution the monitor can do at 60 megahertz.

    Al Smith wrote:

    > Occasionally when I drag or resize a window, my monitor screen
    > will suddenly go black. The picture comes back on in two or three
    > seconds, and the message pops up that my video card ran into a
    > problem but recovered. This has happened six or eight times since
    > I got my new Dell Studio XPS 9000 computer with Windows 7 on it.
    > My video card is an nVidia GeForce GT 220 with 1024MB of RAM.
    >
    > Does anyone know what causes this? I've read numerous accounts of
    > exactly the same problem in various forums, but no explanation and
    > no certain solution.
    >
    > -Al-


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  9. XS11E

    XS11E Flightless Bird

    Tony <Tony@TheDeli.Sandwich> wrote:

    > Use the maximum resolution the monitor can do at 60 megahertz.


    Not always possible. Using the default resolution is always a good
    thing but we don't all have the eyesight that would make that possible.
    I'm using 1027x768 and I really need to go even lower resolution for
    best visibility but 800x600 barely works on my monitor... <sigh>

    Until they make 10 foot monitors some of us will be using very low
    resolution settings. :-(
     
  10. Al Smith

    Al Smith Flightless Bird

    No Spam wrote:
    > In article<nSi2n.61032$PH1.34073@edtnps82>
    > Al Smith<invalid@address.com> wrote:
    >
    >> TheDeadWolf wrote:
    >>> Al Smith wrote:
    >>>> Occasionally when I drag or resize a window, my monitor screen will
    >>>> suddenly go black. The picture comes back on in two or three seconds,
    >>>> and the message pops up that my video card ran into a problem but
    >>>> recovered. This has happened six or eight times since I got my new
    >>>> Dell Studio XPS 9000 computer with Windows 7 on it. My video card is
    >>>> an nVidia GeForce GT 220 with 1024MB of RAM.
    >>>>
    >>>> Does anyone know what causes this? I've read numerous accounts of
    >>>> exactly the same problem in various forums, but no explanation and no
    >>>> certain solution.
    >>>>
    >>>> -Al-
    >>> Have you checked the drivers are up to date?
    >>> I cant really talk because i am having problems with my computer, but
    >>> usually if something like that happens it will be a driver issue. Check
    >>> the nVidia site and download the latest drivers for your video card.

    >>
    >>
    >> That's next on my list. I'm pretty sure there's nothing wrong with
    >> my video card, because it works just fine all the rest of the
    >> time. I'm figuring it must be either a glitch with my video card
    >> driver, or a glitch with Windows 7.
    >>

    >
    > That is a known issue in Windows 7.
    > My guess that it would be fixed by Microsoft soon.
    >
    > It happens no matter if you have your card driver updated and regardless
    > of the brand of the card/chipset.


    There seem to be a lot of reports about it on the Net. Some people
    are having the exact same problem as me -- a couple of seconds
    black screen when they resize windows or drag windows -- and some
    are getting persistent black screens. I checked my video driver --
    no point in installing it, since it was written in 2006. The
    generaic MS driver will be more up to date.

    What I did try was reducing my refresh rate from 75MHz to 60MHz. I
    moved it up to 75MHz shortly after getting the computer, and I may
    have done it before this problem surfaced, I can't remember for
    sure. So now I'm going to see if the problem still happens at
    60MHz. It hasn't happened yet since I reduced the refresh rate.

    -Al-
     
  11. Gene E. Bloch

    Gene E. Bloch Flightless Bird

    On 1/10/10, XS11E posted:
    > Tony <Tony@TheDeli.Sandwich> wrote:


    >> Use the maximum resolution the monitor can do at 60 megahertz.


    > Not always possible. Using the default resolution is always a good
    > thing but we don't all have the eyesight that would make that possible.
    > I'm using 1027x768 and I really need to go even lower resolution for
    > best visibility but 800x600 barely works on my monitor... <sigh>


    > Until they make 10 foot monitors some of us will be using very low
    > resolution settings. :-(


    Do you remember the water-filled magnifying lenses placed in front of
    TV screens in the late 1940s?

    Just what you need...

    --
    Gene Bloch 650.366.4267 lettersatblochg.com
     
  12. FiOS-Dave

    FiOS-Dave Flightless Bird

    "TheDeadWolf" <thedeadwolfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:vdmdnePE7p6lP9TWnZ2dnUVZ7t9i4p2d@bt.com...
    > Al Smith wrote:
    >> Occasionally when I drag or resize a window, my monitor screen will
    >> suddenly go black. The picture comes back on in two or three seconds, and
    >> the message pops up that my video card ran into a problem but recovered.
    >> This has happened six or eight times since I got my new Dell Studio XPS
    >> 9000 computer with Windows 7 on it. My video card is an nVidia GeForce GT
    >> 220 with 1024MB of RAM.
    >>
    >> Does anyone know what causes this? I've read numerous accounts of exactly
    >> the same problem in various forums, but no explanation and no certain
    >> solution.
    >>
    >> -Al-

    > Have you checked the drivers are up to date?
    > I cant really talk because i am having problems with my computer, but
    > usually if something like that happens it will be a driver issue. Check
    > the nVidia site and download the latest drivers for your video card.


    I would check the Dell site first, to see if they have an updated driver for
    your
    particular computer. Sometimes, the drivers are customized for a particular
    machine.

    Dave
     
  13. Al Smith

    Al Smith Flightless Bird

    FiOS-Dave wrote:
    >
    >
    > "TheDeadWolf" <thedeadwolfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:vdmdnePE7p6lP9TWnZ2dnUVZ7t9i4p2d@bt.com...
    >> Al Smith wrote:
    >>> Occasionally when I drag or resize a window, my monitor screen will
    >>> suddenly go black. The picture comes back on in two or three seconds,
    >>> and the message pops up that my video card ran into a problem but
    >>> recovered. This has happened six or eight times since I got my new
    >>> Dell Studio XPS 9000 computer with Windows 7 on it. My video card is
    >>> an nVidia GeForce GT 220 with 1024MB of RAM.
    >>>
    >>> Does anyone know what causes this? I've read numerous accounts of
    >>> exactly the same problem in various forums, but no explanation and no
    >>> certain solution.
    >>>
    >>> -Al-

    >> Have you checked the drivers are up to date?
    >> I cant really talk because i am having problems with my computer, but
    >> usually if something like that happens it will be a driver issue.
    >> Check the nVidia site and download the latest drivers for your video
    >> card.

    >
    > I would check the Dell site first, to see if they have an updated driver
    > for your
    > particular computer. Sometimes, the drivers are customized for a particular
    > machine.
    >
    > Dave
    >
    >


    Never thought of that. Good idea.

    -Al-
     
  14. Tom Lake

    Tom Lake Flightless Bird

    "XS11E" <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:Xns9CFC6BF02AACFxs11eyahoocom@94.75.214.39...
    > Tony <Tony@TheDeli.Sandwich> wrote:
    >
    >> Use the maximum resolution the monitor can do at 60 megahertz.

    >
    > Not always possible. Using the default resolution is always a good
    > thing but we don't all have the eyesight that would make that possible.
    > I'm using 1027x768 and I really need to go even lower resolution for
    > best visibility but 800x600 barely works on my monitor... <sigh>


    Have you tried setting the monitor to its native resolution but increasing the
    size of everything on the screen?

    Control Panel - Appearance and Personalization - Display
    Then choose either Medium or Larger and see if that helps.

    Tom Lake
     
  15. XS11E

    XS11E Flightless Bird

    "Tom Lake" <tlake@twcny.rr.com> wrote:

    >
    > "XS11E" <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
    > news:Xns9CFC6BF02AACFxs11eyahoocom@94.75.214.39...
    >> Tony <Tony@TheDeli.Sandwich> wrote:
    >>
    >>> Use the maximum resolution the monitor can do at 60 megahertz.

    >>
    >> Not always possible. Using the default resolution is always a
    >> good thing but we don't all have the eyesight that would make
    >> that possible. I'm using 1027x768 and I really need to go even
    >> lower resolution for best visibility but 800x600 barely works on
    >> my monitor... <sigh>

    >
    > Have you tried setting the monitor to its native resolution but
    > increasing the size of everything on the screen?


    Yes, doesn't solve the problem. Fortunately, I selected a monitor that
    will work perfectly at less than native resolution. I went to Fry's
    Electronics and irritated the heck out of the salesman by looking at
    every monitor they had, setting it to various lower resolutions (mostly
    800x600) and opening a text file. I can't believe how some brands
    became unwatchable at lower resolutions but my Hyundai L90D was
    *almost* good at 800x600 and PERFECTION at any higher setting.

    Naturally, I bought it and if it every must be replaced I'll try and
    find another monitor that works at lower resolutions and is NOT A
    @$%_&#($& WIDE SCREEN, oh how I hate wide screen monitors when most of
    my work is text and I want 768x1027 not 1027x768! Unfortunately, the
    rotatable ones are pretty expensive....
     
  16. Al Smith

    Al Smith Flightless Bird

    XS11E wrote:
    > "Tom Lake"<tlake@twcny.rr.com> wrote:
    >
    >>
    >> "XS11E"<xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
    >> news:Xns9CFC6BF02AACFxs11eyahoocom@94.75.214.39...
    >>> Tony<Tony@TheDeli.Sandwich> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Use the maximum resolution the monitor can do at 60 megahertz.
    >>>
    >>> Not always possible. Using the default resolution is always a
    >>> good thing but we don't all have the eyesight that would make
    >>> that possible. I'm using 1027x768 and I really need to go even
    >>> lower resolution for best visibility but 800x600 barely works on
    >>> my monitor...<sigh>

    >>
    >> Have you tried setting the monitor to its native resolution but
    >> increasing the size of everything on the screen?

    >
    > Yes, doesn't solve the problem. Fortunately, I selected a monitor that
    > will work perfectly at less than native resolution. I went to Fry's
    > Electronics and irritated the heck out of the salesman by looking at
    > every monitor they had, setting it to various lower resolutions (mostly
    > 800x600) and opening a text file. I can't believe how some brands
    > became unwatchable at lower resolutions but my Hyundai L90D was
    > *almost* good at 800x600 and PERFECTION at any higher setting.
    >
    > Naturally, I bought it and if it every must be replaced I'll try and
    > find another monitor that works at lower resolutions and is NOT A
    > @$%_&#($& WIDE SCREEN, oh how I hate wide screen monitors when most of
    > my work is text and I want 768x1027 not 1027x768! Unfortunately, the
    > rotatable ones are pretty expensive....



    I know what you mean about the screen format. I work with text,
    and that's one reason I use the old fashioned 4:3 ratio screen.
    More space up and down, less side to side.

    -Al-
     
  17. Lord Vetinari

    Lord Vetinari Flightless Bird

    "XS11E" <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:Xns9CFFB72978855xs11eyahoocom@94.75.214.39...
    > "Tom Lake" <tlake@twcny.rr.com> wrote:
    >
    >>
    >> "XS11E" <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
    >> news:Xns9CFC6BF02AACFxs11eyahoocom@94.75.214.39...
    >>> Tony <Tony@TheDeli.Sandwich> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Use the maximum resolution the monitor can do at 60 megahertz.
    >>>
    >>> Not always possible. Using the default resolution is always a
    >>> good thing but we don't all have the eyesight that would make
    >>> that possible. I'm using 1027x768 and I really need to go even
    >>> lower resolution for best visibility but 800x600 barely works on
    >>> my monitor... <sigh>

    >>
    >> Have you tried setting the monitor to its native resolution but
    >> increasing the size of everything on the screen?

    >
    > Yes, doesn't solve the problem. Fortunately, I selected a monitor that
    > will work perfectly at less than native resolution. I went to Fry's
    > Electronics and irritated the heck out of the salesman by looking at
    > every monitor they had, setting it to various lower resolutions (mostly
    > 800x600) and opening a text file. I can't believe how some brands
    > became unwatchable at lower resolutions but my Hyundai L90D was
    > *almost* good at 800x600 and PERFECTION at any higher setting.
    >
    > Naturally, I bought it and if it every must be replaced I'll try and
    > find another monitor that works at lower resolutions and is NOT A
    > @$%_&#($& WIDE SCREEN, oh how I hate wide screen monitors when most of
    > my work is text and I want 768x1027 not 1027x768! Unfortunately, the
    > rotatable ones are pretty expensive....


    You're really amusing, you know? What a peculiar reason to hate widescreen
    monitors! I say this as a person who deals with text for most of my work,
    and my aging eyes don't focus so well close-up, anymore, so it isn't that I
    don't understand your difficulty. Hmmm...well, my best solution has always
    been to simply increase text size until I reach full width, and just scroll
    up and down. Probably what you find yourself doing, eh?

    I have two suggestions for you. One, get some reading glasses. If you
    can't afford proper ones, you can *gack* get really, really inexpensive
    magnifying glasses from Wallyworld, or something. Until I finally got my
    eyes checked, I hadn't caught on to what was making things so difficult.

    Two, you actually _can_ turn a regular monitor on its side (you may wish to
    use a monitor arm...yeah, they ain't cheap, though). I believe most, if not
    all, modern video cards have the capability to turn the image any which way.
    I think I'll be getting a monitor arm in a few weeks, just for this reason.
     
  18. XS11E

    XS11E Flightless Bird

    "Lord Vetinari" <vetinari@ameritech.net> wrote:

    > "XS11E" <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
    > news:Xns9CFFB72978855xs11eyahoocom@94.75.214.39...


    >> Naturally, I bought it and if it every must be replaced I'll try
    >> and find another monitor that works at lower resolutions and is
    >> NOT A @$%_&#($& WIDE SCREEN, oh how I hate wide screen monitors
    >> when most of my work is text and I want 768x1027 not 1027x768!
    >> Unfortunately, the rotatable ones are pretty expensive....

    >
    > You're really amusing, you know? What a peculiar reason to hate
    > widescreen monitors!


    What a very logical reason to hate wide screen. Do you think I should
    like something that doesn't do what I need? Now that's peculiar...

    > I have two suggestions for you. One, get some reading glasses.


    I wear progressive lenses, they help but I have cataracts also and
    until they become bad enough to justify removal I'll have to live with
    them, the ophthalmologist says probably two more years....

    > Two, you actually _can_ turn a regular monitor on its side (you
    > may wish to use a monitor arm...yeah, they ain't cheap, though).
    > I believe most, if not all, modern video cards have the capability
    > to turn the image any which way. I think I'll be getting a monitor
    > arm in a few weeks, just for this reason.


    I've thought of that but I can't mount a monitor arm due to my current
    setup. Having a 4:3 screen ratio works fine, when and if the current
    monitor dies I'll have to consider alternatives.
     
  19. Lord Vetinari

    Lord Vetinari Flightless Bird

    "XS11E" <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:Xns9D00682F8F388xs11eyahoocom@94.75.214.39...
    > "Lord Vetinari" <vetinari@ameritech.net> wrote:
    >
    >> "XS11E" <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
    >> news:Xns9CFFB72978855xs11eyahoocom@94.75.214.39...

    >
    >>> Naturally, I bought it and if it every must be replaced I'll try
    >>> and find another monitor that works at lower resolutions and is
    >>> NOT A @$%_&#($& WIDE SCREEN, oh how I hate wide screen monitors
    >>> when most of my work is text and I want 768x1027 not 1027x768!
    >>> Unfortunately, the rotatable ones are pretty expensive....

    >>
    >> You're really amusing, you know? What a peculiar reason to hate
    >> widescreen monitors!

    >
    > What a very logical reason to hate wide screen. Do you think I should
    > like something that doesn't do what I need? Now that's peculiar...


    I what way doesn't it do what you need? So far, your description appears to
    be a dislike of "wasted" screen real estate. Do you REALLY need the entire
    document onscreen at once?

    >> I have two suggestions for you. One, get some reading glasses.

    >
    > I wear progressive lenses, they help but I have cataracts also and
    > until they become bad enough to justify removal I'll have to live with
    > them, the ophthalmologist says probably two more years....


    Bummer. My best friend had cataracts removed a couple of years ago, and
    while he is still blind, he can function much better, now.

    >> Two, you actually _can_ turn a regular monitor on its side (you
    >> may wish to use a monitor arm...yeah, they ain't cheap, though).
    >> I believe most, if not all, modern video cards have the capability
    >> to turn the image any which way. I think I'll be getting a monitor
    >> arm in a few weeks, just for this reason.

    >
    > I've thought of that but I can't mount a monitor arm due to my current
    > setup. Having a 4:3 screen ratio works fine, when and if the current
    > monitor dies I'll have to consider alternatives.


    I'd be happy to give you one of my old CRTs, but I have finally gotten rid
    of all of them. heh. Oops, I just remembered. I still have an old
    "paperwhite" monitor designed for just what you're talking about. If you
    don't require color, I'd be willing to ship it to you, if you'd be willing
    to pay the shipping. For a CRT, it's damned lightweight. Hmm...OTOH, I
    think it's a 15", so may not be helpful enough.
     
  20. XS11E

    XS11E Flightless Bird

    "Lord Vetinari" <vetinari@ameritech.net> wrote:

    > "XS11E" <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
    > news:Xns9D00682F8F388xs11eyahoocom@94.75.214.39...


    > I what way doesn't it do what you need? So far, your description
    > appears to be a dislike of "wasted" screen real estate. Do you
    > REALLY need the entire document onscreen at once?


    Less scrolling is better.
     

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