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black screen

A

Al Smith

Flightless Bird
Occasionally when I drag or resize a window, my monitor screen
will suddenly go black. The picture comes back on in two or three
seconds, and the message pops up that my video card ran into a
problem but recovered. This has happened six or eight times since
I got my new Dell Studio XPS 9000 computer with Windows 7 on it.
My video card is an nVidia GeForce GT 220 with 1024MB of RAM.

Does anyone know what causes this? I've read numerous accounts of
exactly the same problem in various forums, but no explanation and
no certain solution.

-Al-
 
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TheDeadWolf

Flightless Bird
Al Smith wrote:
> Occasionally when I drag or resize a window, my monitor screen will
> suddenly go black. The picture comes back on in two or three seconds,
> and the message pops up that my video card ran into a problem but
> recovered. This has happened six or eight times since I got my new Dell
> Studio XPS 9000 computer with Windows 7 on it. My video card is an
> nVidia GeForce GT 220 with 1024MB of RAM.
>
> Does anyone know what causes this? I've read numerous accounts of
> exactly the same problem in various forums, but no explanation and no
> certain solution.
>
> -Al-

Have you checked the drivers are up to date?
I cant really talk because i am having problems with my computer, but
usually if something like that happens it will be a driver issue. Check
the nVidia site and download the latest drivers for your video card.
 
A

Al Smith

Flightless Bird
TheDeadWolf wrote:
> Al Smith wrote:
>> Occasionally when I drag or resize a window, my monitor screen will
>> suddenly go black. The picture comes back on in two or three seconds,
>> and the message pops up that my video card ran into a problem but
>> recovered. This has happened six or eight times since I got my new
>> Dell Studio XPS 9000 computer with Windows 7 on it. My video card is
>> an nVidia GeForce GT 220 with 1024MB of RAM.
>>
>> Does anyone know what causes this? I've read numerous accounts of
>> exactly the same problem in various forums, but no explanation and no
>> certain solution.
>>
>> -Al-

> Have you checked the drivers are up to date?
> I cant really talk because i am having problems with my computer, but
> usually if something like that happens it will be a driver issue. Check
> the nVidia site and download the latest drivers for your video card.



That's next on my list. I'm pretty sure there's nothing wrong with
my video card, because it works just fine all the rest of the
time. I'm figuring it must be either a glitch with my video card
driver, or a glitch with Windows 7.

-Al-
 
K

Kadaitcha Man

Flightless Bird
Some pruned worm-sperm named "Al Smith" yipped:

>>> my monitor screen will
>>> suddenly go black. The picture comes back on in two or three seconds,
>>> and the message pops up that my video card ran into a problem


[snip]

> I'm pretty sure there's nothing wrong with my
> video card


The OS pops up a message telling you that your video card ran into a
problem but you're pretty sure there's nothing wrong with it?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

Go right ahead, ignore all the advice you've been given and question
everything you're told, despite your being unable to solve the problem
yourself.

You completely stupid dumbfuck cunt.

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jellied onion.
 
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No Spam

Flightless Bird
In article <nSi2n.61032$PH1.34073@edtnps82>
Al Smith <invalid@address.com> wrote:

>TheDeadWolf wrote:
>> Al Smith wrote:
>>> Occasionally when I drag or resize a window, my monitor screen will
>>> suddenly go black. The picture comes back on in two or three seconds,
>>> and the message pops up that my video card ran into a problem but
>>> recovered. This has happened six or eight times since I got my new
>>> Dell Studio XPS 9000 computer with Windows 7 on it. My video card is
>>> an nVidia GeForce GT 220 with 1024MB of RAM.
>>>
>>> Does anyone know what causes this? I've read numerous accounts of
>>> exactly the same problem in various forums, but no explanation and no
>>> certain solution.
>>>
>>> -Al-

>> Have you checked the drivers are up to date?
>> I cant really talk because i am having problems with my computer, but
>> usually if something like that happens it will be a driver issue. Check
>> the nVidia site and download the latest drivers for your video card.

>
>
>That's next on my list. I'm pretty sure there's nothing wrong with
>my video card, because it works just fine all the rest of the
>time. I'm figuring it must be either a glitch with my video card
>driver, or a glitch with Windows 7.
>


That is a known issue in Windows 7.
My guess that it would be fixed by Microsoft soon.

It happens no matter if you have your card driver updated and regardless
of the brand of the card/chipset.
 
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Trev

Flightless Bird
"No Spam" <nospam@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
news:d5gjk5du7jn2vdtmtm7n3550trojnspbqc@4ax.com...
> In article <nSi2n.61032$PH1.34073@edtnps82>
> Al Smith <invalid@address.com> wrote:
>
>>TheDeadWolf wrote:
>>> Al Smith wrote:
>>>> Occasionally when I drag or resize a window, my monitor screen will
>>>> suddenly go black. The picture comes back on in two or three seconds,
>>>> and the message pops up that my video card ran into a problem but
>>>> recovered. This has happened six or eight times since I got my new
>>>> Dell Studio XPS 9000 computer with Windows 7 on it. My video card is
>>>> an nVidia GeForce GT 220 with 1024MB of RAM.
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone know what causes this? I've read numerous accounts of
>>>> exactly the same problem in various forums, but no explanation and no
>>>> certain solution.
>>>>
>>>> -Al-
>>> Have you checked the drivers are up to date?
>>> I cant really talk because i am having problems with my computer, but
>>> usually if something like that happens it will be a driver issue. Check
>>> the nVidia site and download the latest drivers for your video card.

>>
>>
>>That's next on my list. I'm pretty sure there's nothing wrong with
>>my video card, because it works just fine all the rest of the
>>time. I'm figuring it must be either a glitch with my video card
>>driver, or a glitch with Windows 7.
>>

>
> That is a known issue in Windows 7.
> My guess that it would be fixed by Microsoft soon.
>
> It happens no matter if you have your card driver updated and regardless
> of the brand of the card/chipset.


I must find out whats wrong with my computer as It does not do it
 
A

Andy

Flightless Bird
Al Smith <invalid@address.com> wrote:

> TheDeadWolf wrote:
>> Al Smith wrote:
>>> Occasionally when I drag or resize a window, my monitor screen will
>>> suddenly go black. The picture comes back on in two or three seconds,
>>> and the message pops up that my video card ran into a problem but
>>> recovered. This has happened six or eight times since I got my new
>>> Dell Studio XPS 9000 computer with Windows 7 on it. My video card is
>>> an nVidia GeForce GT 220 with 1024MB of RAM.
>>>
>>> Does anyone know what causes this? I've read numerous accounts of
>>> exactly the same problem in various forums, but no explanation and no
>>> certain solution.
>>>
>>> -Al-

>> Have you checked the drivers are up to date?
>> I cant really talk because i am having problems with my computer, but
>> usually if something like that happens it will be a driver issue.

Check
>> the nVidia site and download the latest drivers for your video card.

>
>
> That's next on my list. I'm pretty sure there's nothing wrong with
> my video card, because it works just fine all the rest of the
> time. I'm figuring it must be either a glitch with my video card
> driver, or a glitch with Windows 7.
>
> -Al-



I've seen the black screen on occasion. "SpywareBlaster" being a known
culprit. I just imagined it being a stage of "should I be 32 or 64-bit?"
or what? Never crashed.

Andy
Win7(64)
 
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Tony

Flightless Bird
Use the maximum resolution the monitor can do at 60 megahertz.

Al Smith wrote:

> Occasionally when I drag or resize a window, my monitor screen
> will suddenly go black. The picture comes back on in two or three
> seconds, and the message pops up that my video card ran into a
> problem but recovered. This has happened six or eight times since
> I got my new Dell Studio XPS 9000 computer with Windows 7 on it.
> My video card is an nVidia GeForce GT 220 with 1024MB of RAM.
>
> Does anyone know what causes this? I've read numerous accounts of
> exactly the same problem in various forums, but no explanation and
> no certain solution.
>
> -Al-


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XS11E

Flightless Bird
Tony <Tony@TheDeli.Sandwich> wrote:

> Use the maximum resolution the monitor can do at 60 megahertz.


Not always possible. Using the default resolution is always a good
thing but we don't all have the eyesight that would make that possible.
I'm using 1027x768 and I really need to go even lower resolution for
best visibility but 800x600 barely works on my monitor... <sigh>

Until they make 10 foot monitors some of us will be using very low
resolution settings. :-(
 
A

Al Smith

Flightless Bird
No Spam wrote:
> In article<nSi2n.61032$PH1.34073@edtnps82>
> Al Smith<invalid@address.com> wrote:
>
>> TheDeadWolf wrote:
>>> Al Smith wrote:
>>>> Occasionally when I drag or resize a window, my monitor screen will
>>>> suddenly go black. The picture comes back on in two or three seconds,
>>>> and the message pops up that my video card ran into a problem but
>>>> recovered. This has happened six or eight times since I got my new
>>>> Dell Studio XPS 9000 computer with Windows 7 on it. My video card is
>>>> an nVidia GeForce GT 220 with 1024MB of RAM.
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone know what causes this? I've read numerous accounts of
>>>> exactly the same problem in various forums, but no explanation and no
>>>> certain solution.
>>>>
>>>> -Al-
>>> Have you checked the drivers are up to date?
>>> I cant really talk because i am having problems with my computer, but
>>> usually if something like that happens it will be a driver issue. Check
>>> the nVidia site and download the latest drivers for your video card.

>>
>>
>> That's next on my list. I'm pretty sure there's nothing wrong with
>> my video card, because it works just fine all the rest of the
>> time. I'm figuring it must be either a glitch with my video card
>> driver, or a glitch with Windows 7.
>>

>
> That is a known issue in Windows 7.
> My guess that it would be fixed by Microsoft soon.
>
> It happens no matter if you have your card driver updated and regardless
> of the brand of the card/chipset.


There seem to be a lot of reports about it on the Net. Some people
are having the exact same problem as me -- a couple of seconds
black screen when they resize windows or drag windows -- and some
are getting persistent black screens. I checked my video driver --
no point in installing it, since it was written in 2006. The
generaic MS driver will be more up to date.

What I did try was reducing my refresh rate from 75MHz to 60MHz. I
moved it up to 75MHz shortly after getting the computer, and I may
have done it before this problem surfaced, I can't remember for
sure. So now I'm going to see if the problem still happens at
60MHz. It hasn't happened yet since I reduced the refresh rate.

-Al-
 
G

Gene E. Bloch

Flightless Bird
On 1/10/10, XS11E posted:
> Tony <Tony@TheDeli.Sandwich> wrote:


>> Use the maximum resolution the monitor can do at 60 megahertz.


> Not always possible. Using the default resolution is always a good
> thing but we don't all have the eyesight that would make that possible.
> I'm using 1027x768 and I really need to go even lower resolution for
> best visibility but 800x600 barely works on my monitor... <sigh>


> Until they make 10 foot monitors some of us will be using very low
> resolution settings. :-(


Do you remember the water-filled magnifying lenses placed in front of
TV screens in the late 1940s?

Just what you need...

--
Gene Bloch 650.366.4267 lettersatblochg.com
 
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FiOS-Dave

Flightless Bird
"TheDeadWolf" <thedeadwolfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:vdmdnePE7p6lP9TWnZ2dnUVZ7t9i4p2d@bt.com...
> Al Smith wrote:
>> Occasionally when I drag or resize a window, my monitor screen will
>> suddenly go black. The picture comes back on in two or three seconds, and
>> the message pops up that my video card ran into a problem but recovered.
>> This has happened six or eight times since I got my new Dell Studio XPS
>> 9000 computer with Windows 7 on it. My video card is an nVidia GeForce GT
>> 220 with 1024MB of RAM.
>>
>> Does anyone know what causes this? I've read numerous accounts of exactly
>> the same problem in various forums, but no explanation and no certain
>> solution.
>>
>> -Al-

> Have you checked the drivers are up to date?
> I cant really talk because i am having problems with my computer, but
> usually if something like that happens it will be a driver issue. Check
> the nVidia site and download the latest drivers for your video card.


I would check the Dell site first, to see if they have an updated driver for
your
particular computer. Sometimes, the drivers are customized for a particular
machine.

Dave
 
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Al Smith

Flightless Bird
FiOS-Dave wrote:
>
>
> "TheDeadWolf" <thedeadwolfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:vdmdnePE7p6lP9TWnZ2dnUVZ7t9i4p2d@bt.com...
>> Al Smith wrote:
>>> Occasionally when I drag or resize a window, my monitor screen will
>>> suddenly go black. The picture comes back on in two or three seconds,
>>> and the message pops up that my video card ran into a problem but
>>> recovered. This has happened six or eight times since I got my new
>>> Dell Studio XPS 9000 computer with Windows 7 on it. My video card is
>>> an nVidia GeForce GT 220 with 1024MB of RAM.
>>>
>>> Does anyone know what causes this? I've read numerous accounts of
>>> exactly the same problem in various forums, but no explanation and no
>>> certain solution.
>>>
>>> -Al-

>> Have you checked the drivers are up to date?
>> I cant really talk because i am having problems with my computer, but
>> usually if something like that happens it will be a driver issue.
>> Check the nVidia site and download the latest drivers for your video
>> card.

>
> I would check the Dell site first, to see if they have an updated driver
> for your
> particular computer. Sometimes, the drivers are customized for a particular
> machine.
>
> Dave
>
>


Never thought of that. Good idea.

-Al-
 
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Tom Lake

Flightless Bird
"XS11E" <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9CFC6BF02AACFxs11eyahoocom@94.75.214.39...
> Tony <Tony@TheDeli.Sandwich> wrote:
>
>> Use the maximum resolution the monitor can do at 60 megahertz.

>
> Not always possible. Using the default resolution is always a good
> thing but we don't all have the eyesight that would make that possible.
> I'm using 1027x768 and I really need to go even lower resolution for
> best visibility but 800x600 barely works on my monitor... <sigh>


Have you tried setting the monitor to its native resolution but increasing the
size of everything on the screen?

Control Panel - Appearance and Personalization - Display
Then choose either Medium or Larger and see if that helps.

Tom Lake
 
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XS11E

Flightless Bird
"Tom Lake" <tlake@twcny.rr.com> wrote:

>
> "XS11E" <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns9CFC6BF02AACFxs11eyahoocom@94.75.214.39...
>> Tony <Tony@TheDeli.Sandwich> wrote:
>>
>>> Use the maximum resolution the monitor can do at 60 megahertz.

>>
>> Not always possible. Using the default resolution is always a
>> good thing but we don't all have the eyesight that would make
>> that possible. I'm using 1027x768 and I really need to go even
>> lower resolution for best visibility but 800x600 barely works on
>> my monitor... <sigh>

>
> Have you tried setting the monitor to its native resolution but
> increasing the size of everything on the screen?


Yes, doesn't solve the problem. Fortunately, I selected a monitor that
will work perfectly at less than native resolution. I went to Fry's
Electronics and irritated the heck out of the salesman by looking at
every monitor they had, setting it to various lower resolutions (mostly
800x600) and opening a text file. I can't believe how some brands
became unwatchable at lower resolutions but my Hyundai L90D was
*almost* good at 800x600 and PERFECTION at any higher setting.

Naturally, I bought it and if it every must be replaced I'll try and
find another monitor that works at lower resolutions and is NOT A
@$%_&#($& WIDE SCREEN, oh how I hate wide screen monitors when most of
my work is text and I want 768x1027 not 1027x768! Unfortunately, the
rotatable ones are pretty expensive....
 
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Al Smith

Flightless Bird
XS11E wrote:
> "Tom Lake"<tlake@twcny.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> "XS11E"<xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:Xns9CFC6BF02AACFxs11eyahoocom@94.75.214.39...
>>> Tony<Tony@TheDeli.Sandwich> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Use the maximum resolution the monitor can do at 60 megahertz.
>>>
>>> Not always possible. Using the default resolution is always a
>>> good thing but we don't all have the eyesight that would make
>>> that possible. I'm using 1027x768 and I really need to go even
>>> lower resolution for best visibility but 800x600 barely works on
>>> my monitor...<sigh>

>>
>> Have you tried setting the monitor to its native resolution but
>> increasing the size of everything on the screen?

>
> Yes, doesn't solve the problem. Fortunately, I selected a monitor that
> will work perfectly at less than native resolution. I went to Fry's
> Electronics and irritated the heck out of the salesman by looking at
> every monitor they had, setting it to various lower resolutions (mostly
> 800x600) and opening a text file. I can't believe how some brands
> became unwatchable at lower resolutions but my Hyundai L90D was
> *almost* good at 800x600 and PERFECTION at any higher setting.
>
> Naturally, I bought it and if it every must be replaced I'll try and
> find another monitor that works at lower resolutions and is NOT A
> @$%_&#($& WIDE SCREEN, oh how I hate wide screen monitors when most of
> my work is text and I want 768x1027 not 1027x768! Unfortunately, the
> rotatable ones are pretty expensive....



I know what you mean about the screen format. I work with text,
and that's one reason I use the old fashioned 4:3 ratio screen.
More space up and down, less side to side.

-Al-
 
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Lord Vetinari

Flightless Bird
"XS11E" <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9CFFB72978855xs11eyahoocom@94.75.214.39...
> "Tom Lake" <tlake@twcny.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> "XS11E" <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:Xns9CFC6BF02AACFxs11eyahoocom@94.75.214.39...
>>> Tony <Tony@TheDeli.Sandwich> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Use the maximum resolution the monitor can do at 60 megahertz.
>>>
>>> Not always possible. Using the default resolution is always a
>>> good thing but we don't all have the eyesight that would make
>>> that possible. I'm using 1027x768 and I really need to go even
>>> lower resolution for best visibility but 800x600 barely works on
>>> my monitor... <sigh>

>>
>> Have you tried setting the monitor to its native resolution but
>> increasing the size of everything on the screen?

>
> Yes, doesn't solve the problem. Fortunately, I selected a monitor that
> will work perfectly at less than native resolution. I went to Fry's
> Electronics and irritated the heck out of the salesman by looking at
> every monitor they had, setting it to various lower resolutions (mostly
> 800x600) and opening a text file. I can't believe how some brands
> became unwatchable at lower resolutions but my Hyundai L90D was
> *almost* good at 800x600 and PERFECTION at any higher setting.
>
> Naturally, I bought it and if it every must be replaced I'll try and
> find another monitor that works at lower resolutions and is NOT A
> @$%_&#($& WIDE SCREEN, oh how I hate wide screen monitors when most of
> my work is text and I want 768x1027 not 1027x768! Unfortunately, the
> rotatable ones are pretty expensive....


You're really amusing, you know? What a peculiar reason to hate widescreen
monitors! I say this as a person who deals with text for most of my work,
and my aging eyes don't focus so well close-up, anymore, so it isn't that I
don't understand your difficulty. Hmmm...well, my best solution has always
been to simply increase text size until I reach full width, and just scroll
up and down. Probably what you find yourself doing, eh?

I have two suggestions for you. One, get some reading glasses. If you
can't afford proper ones, you can *gack* get really, really inexpensive
magnifying glasses from Wallyworld, or something. Until I finally got my
eyes checked, I hadn't caught on to what was making things so difficult.

Two, you actually _can_ turn a regular monitor on its side (you may wish to
use a monitor arm...yeah, they ain't cheap, though). I believe most, if not
all, modern video cards have the capability to turn the image any which way.
I think I'll be getting a monitor arm in a few weeks, just for this reason.
 
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XS11E

Flightless Bird
"Lord Vetinari" <vetinari@ameritech.net> wrote:

> "XS11E" <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns9CFFB72978855xs11eyahoocom@94.75.214.39...


>> Naturally, I bought it and if it every must be replaced I'll try
>> and find another monitor that works at lower resolutions and is
>> NOT A @$%_&#($& WIDE SCREEN, oh how I hate wide screen monitors
>> when most of my work is text and I want 768x1027 not 1027x768!
>> Unfortunately, the rotatable ones are pretty expensive....

>
> You're really amusing, you know? What a peculiar reason to hate
> widescreen monitors!


What a very logical reason to hate wide screen. Do you think I should
like something that doesn't do what I need? Now that's peculiar...

> I have two suggestions for you. One, get some reading glasses.


I wear progressive lenses, they help but I have cataracts also and
until they become bad enough to justify removal I'll have to live with
them, the ophthalmologist says probably two more years....

> Two, you actually _can_ turn a regular monitor on its side (you
> may wish to use a monitor arm...yeah, they ain't cheap, though).
> I believe most, if not all, modern video cards have the capability
> to turn the image any which way. I think I'll be getting a monitor
> arm in a few weeks, just for this reason.


I've thought of that but I can't mount a monitor arm due to my current
setup. Having a 4:3 screen ratio works fine, when and if the current
monitor dies I'll have to consider alternatives.
 
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Lord Vetinari

Flightless Bird
"XS11E" <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9D00682F8F388xs11eyahoocom@94.75.214.39...
> "Lord Vetinari" <vetinari@ameritech.net> wrote:
>
>> "XS11E" <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:Xns9CFFB72978855xs11eyahoocom@94.75.214.39...

>
>>> Naturally, I bought it and if it every must be replaced I'll try
>>> and find another monitor that works at lower resolutions and is
>>> NOT A @$%_&#($& WIDE SCREEN, oh how I hate wide screen monitors
>>> when most of my work is text and I want 768x1027 not 1027x768!
>>> Unfortunately, the rotatable ones are pretty expensive....

>>
>> You're really amusing, you know? What a peculiar reason to hate
>> widescreen monitors!

>
> What a very logical reason to hate wide screen. Do you think I should
> like something that doesn't do what I need? Now that's peculiar...


I what way doesn't it do what you need? So far, your description appears to
be a dislike of "wasted" screen real estate. Do you REALLY need the entire
document onscreen at once?

>> I have two suggestions for you. One, get some reading glasses.

>
> I wear progressive lenses, they help but I have cataracts also and
> until they become bad enough to justify removal I'll have to live with
> them, the ophthalmologist says probably two more years....


Bummer. My best friend had cataracts removed a couple of years ago, and
while he is still blind, he can function much better, now.

>> Two, you actually _can_ turn a regular monitor on its side (you
>> may wish to use a monitor arm...yeah, they ain't cheap, though).
>> I believe most, if not all, modern video cards have the capability
>> to turn the image any which way. I think I'll be getting a monitor
>> arm in a few weeks, just for this reason.

>
> I've thought of that but I can't mount a monitor arm due to my current
> setup. Having a 4:3 screen ratio works fine, when and if the current
> monitor dies I'll have to consider alternatives.


I'd be happy to give you one of my old CRTs, but I have finally gotten rid
of all of them. heh. Oops, I just remembered. I still have an old
"paperwhite" monitor designed for just what you're talking about. If you
don't require color, I'd be willing to ship it to you, if you'd be willing
to pay the shipping. For a CRT, it's damned lightweight. Hmm...OTOH, I
think it's a 15", so may not be helpful enough.
 
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XS11E

Flightless Bird
"Lord Vetinari" <vetinari@ameritech.net> wrote:

> "XS11E" <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns9D00682F8F388xs11eyahoocom@94.75.214.39...


> I what way doesn't it do what you need? So far, your description
> appears to be a dislike of "wasted" screen real estate. Do you
> REALLY need the entire document onscreen at once?


Less scrolling is better.
 
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