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Windows Mail on Windows 7 - can't make it work

Discussion in 'Windows 7' started by Mortimer, Jan 17, 2010.

  1. Mortimer

    Mortimer Flightless Bird

    Various forums tell you that all you need to do is to copy the c:/Program
    Files\Windows Mail files/folders from Vista to Win 7 (after saving the
    current contents in case it goes pear-shaped).

    But I can't make this work.

    If I copy the files from 32-bit Vista to the c:/Program Files\Windows Mail
    folder on 64-bit Win 7, WinMail.exe spawns loads of "Windows Mail *32"
    processes which consume vast amounts of memory within about a minute.

    If I try copy them to c:/Program Files (x86)\Windows Mail, there are
    permission problems: some of the existing files are owned by
    TrustedInstaller and even running Explorer as Administrator I can't set
    permission to delete/overwrite them.

    Running WinMail.exe from a different folder (eg copy everything to a folder
    in my Documents folder) the processes run (there's a WinMail and a WinMail
    *32 process showing up in Task Manager) but no splash screen or window
    opens.

    What am I doing wrong? Is it there any way of running the 32-bit version of
    Vista's Windows Mail on a 64-bit version of Windows 7?

    If I were able to run it, what restrictions are there? Some sites suggest
    that it can't be made the default MAPI client for Mail and News, which isn't
    a show-stopper, but is there anything else?

    I loathe Windows Live Mail - it looks like a toy, with its pastel colours,
    its lack of dividing lines and lack of +/- boxes on nested folders etc. And
    I don't like having separate Inbox, Sent Items and Deleted Items for each
    mail account.

    I've looked at Turnpike but that has the same issue of separate folders for
    each account and, even worse, won't allow you to export/import multiple mail
    messages as eml files to allow messages that have been sent on one PC (eg a
    laptop) to be blended into the Sent Items folder on another PC, either by
    attaching them to an email or else by copying them as .eml files to a shared
    drive or removeable drive.
     
  2. Roland Schweiger

    Roland Schweiger Flightless Bird

    If you are using 64-bit Version of Windows7,
    then you MUST copy the 64-bit Windows Mail folder
    from a 64-bit Windows Vista, else it will not work.
    You actually only need the 64bit versions of the files
    mspe.dll
    WinMail.exe

    regards

    Roland Schweiger




    "Mortimer" <me@privacy.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
    news:7rgg9bFpd5U1@mid.individual.net...
    > Various forums tell you that all you need to do is to copy the c:/Program
    > Files\Windows Mail files/folders from Vista to Win 7 (after saving the
    > current contents in case it goes pear-shaped).
    >
    > But I can't make this work.
    >
    > If I copy the files from 32-bit Vista to the c:/Program Files\Windows Mail
    > folder on 64-bit Win 7, WinMail.exe spawns loads of "Windows Mail *32"
    > processes which consume vast amounts of memory within about a minute.
    >
    > If I try copy them to c:/Program Files (x86)\Windows Mail, there are
    > permission problems: some of the existing files are owned by
    > TrustedInstaller and even running Explorer as Administrator I can't set
    > permission to delete/overwrite them.
    >
    > Running WinMail.exe from a different folder (eg copy everything to a
    > folder in my Documents folder) the processes run (there's a WinMail and a
    > WinMail *32 process showing up in Task Manager) but no splash screen or
    > window opens.
    >
    > What am I doing wrong? Is it there any way of running the 32-bit version
    > of Vista's Windows Mail on a 64-bit version of Windows 7?
    >
    > If I were able to run it, what restrictions are there? Some sites suggest
    > that it can't be made the default MAPI client for Mail and News, which
    > isn't a show-stopper, but is there anything else?
    >
    > I loathe Windows Live Mail - it looks like a toy, with its pastel colours,
    > its lack of dividing lines and lack of +/- boxes on nested folders etc.
    > And I don't like having separate Inbox, Sent Items and Deleted Items for
    > each mail account.
    >
    > I've looked at Turnpike but that has the same issue of separate folders
    > for each account and, even worse, won't allow you to export/import
    > multiple mail messages as eml files to allow messages that have been sent
    > on one PC (eg a laptop) to be blended into the Sent Items folder on
    > another PC, either by attaching them to an email or else by copying them
    > as .eml files to a shared drive or removeable drive.
     
  3. Roland Schweiger

    Roland Schweiger Flightless Bird

    sorry. mistyped the names. So here again:

    If you are using 64-bit Version of Windows7,
    then you MUST copy the 64-bit Windows Mail folder
    from a 64-bit Windows Vista, else it will not work.
    You actually only need the 64bit versions of the files

    msoe.dll
    WinMail.exe

    However it is generally better to copy the entire folder.
    Don't forget to grant yourself full control over the folders.

    regards

    Roland Schweiger
     
  4. Noone

    Noone Flightless Bird

    I believe you have to use Windows Mail 64 bit version.
    But I have not tried the 32 bit version

    There should be a Windows Mail folder in ProgramFiles.
    Except that it is not complete.

    If I am right you will have to find the 64 bit Vista 64 folder
    somewhere on the Web.

    On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 13:05:17 -0000, "Mortimer" <me@privacy.net> wrote:

    >Various forums tell you that all you need to do is to copy the c:/Program
    >Files\Windows Mail files/folders from Vista to Win 7 (after saving the
    >current contents in case it goes pear-shaped).
    >
    >But I can't make this work.
    >
    >If I copy the files from 32-bit Vista to the c:/Program Files\Windows Mail
    >folder on 64-bit Win 7, WinMail.exe spawns loads of "Windows Mail *32"
    >processes which consume vast amounts of memory within about a minute.
    >
    >If I try copy them to c:/Program Files (x86)\Windows Mail, there are
    >permission problems: some of the existing files are owned by
    >TrustedInstaller and even running Explorer as Administrator I can't set
    >permission to delete/overwrite them.
    >
    >Running WinMail.exe from a different folder (eg copy everything to a folder
    >in my Documents folder) the processes run (there's a WinMail and a WinMail
    >*32 process showing up in Task Manager) but no splash screen or window
    >opens.
    >
    >What am I doing wrong? Is it there any way of running the 32-bit version of
    >Vista's Windows Mail on a 64-bit version of Windows 7?
    >
    >If I were able to run it, what restrictions are there? Some sites suggest
    >that it can't be made the default MAPI client for Mail and News, which isn't
    >a show-stopper, but is there anything else?
    >
    >I loathe Windows Live Mail - it looks like a toy, with its pastel colours,
    >its lack of dividing lines and lack of +/- boxes on nested folders etc. And
    >I don't like having separate Inbox, Sent Items and Deleted Items for each
    >mail account.
    >
    >I've looked at Turnpike but that has the same issue of separate folders for
    >each account and, even worse, won't allow you to export/import multiple mail
    >messages as eml files to allow messages that have been sent on one PC (eg a
    >laptop) to be blended into the Sent Items folder on another PC, either by
    >attaching them to an email or else by copying them as .eml files to a shared
    >drive or removeable drive.
     
  5. Gary I

    Gary I Flightless Bird

    I'm happy to see separate Inbox back again! A junk email account and a
    reserved (secure) account with messages remaining separated is my desire.

    "Mortimer" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
    news:7rgg9bFpd5U1@mid.individual.net...
    > Various forums tell you that all you need to do is to copy the c:/Program
    > Files\Windows Mail files/folders from Vista to Win 7 (after saving the
    > current contents in case it goes pear-shaped).
    >
    > But I can't make this work.
    >
    > If I copy the files from 32-bit Vista to the c:/Program Files\Windows Mail
    > folder on 64-bit Win 7, WinMail.exe spawns loads of "Windows Mail *32"
    > processes which consume vast amounts of memory within about a minute.
    >
    > If I try copy them to c:/Program Files (x86)\Windows Mail, there are
    > permission problems: some of the existing files are owned by
    > TrustedInstaller and even running Explorer as Administrator I can't set
    > permission to delete/overwrite them.
    >
    > Running WinMail.exe from a different folder (eg copy everything to a
    > folder in my Documents folder) the processes run (there's a WinMail and a
    > WinMail *32 process showing up in Task Manager) but no splash screen or
    > window opens.
    >
    > What am I doing wrong? Is it there any way of running the 32-bit version
    > of Vista's Windows Mail on a 64-bit version of Windows 7?
    >
    > If I were able to run it, what restrictions are there? Some sites suggest
    > that it can't be made the default MAPI client for Mail and News, which
    > isn't a show-stopper, but is there anything else?
    >
    > I loathe Windows Live Mail - it looks like a toy, with its pastel colours,
    > its lack of dividing lines and lack of +/- boxes on nested folders etc.
    > And I don't like having separate Inbox, Sent Items and Deleted Items for
    > each mail account.
    >
    > I've looked at Turnpike but that has the same issue of separate folders
    > for each account and, even worse, won't allow you to export/import
    > multiple mail messages as eml files to allow messages that have been sent
    > on one PC (eg a laptop) to be blended into the Sent Items folder on
    > another PC, either by attaching them to an email or else by copying them
    > as .eml files to a shared drive or removeable drive.
     
  6. Mortimer

    Mortimer Flightless Bird

    "Roland Schweiger" <roland_schweiger@web.de> wrote in message
    news:hiv2u0$c4v$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    > sorry. mistyped the names. So here again:
    >
    > If you are using 64-bit Version of Windows7,
    > then you MUST copy the 64-bit Windows Mail folder
    > from a 64-bit Windows Vista, else it will not work.
    > You actually only need the 64bit versions of the files
    >
    > msoe.dll
    > WinMail.exe
    >
    > However it is generally better to copy the entire folder.
    > Don't forget to grant yourself full control over the folders.


    Ah. It's a shame that the forum postings that I've looked at don't mention
    that 64-bit Win 7 can *only* run the 64-bit version of Windows Mail from
    Vista. I thought that 64-bit could run 32-bit apps as well, and that it was
    only drivers which had to be 64-bit. Evidently Windows Mail is an exception
    to the rule.

    Right, so I need to find a copy of the 64-bit files from Vista that I can
    download from somewhere...
     
  7. Roland Schweiger

    Roland Schweiger Flightless Bird

    "Mortimer"
    > Ah. It's a shame that the forum postings that I've looked at don't mention
    > that 64-bit Win 7 can *only* run the 64-bit version of Windows Mail from
    > Vista. I thought that 64-bit could run 32-bit apps as well, and that it
    > was only drivers which had to be 64-bit. Evidently Windows Mail is an
    > exception to the rule.


    Generally speaking, Win64 versions can run most x86 (32-bit) apps because
    they are somehow translated with the WOW system (Windows-on-Windows).
    You will see 32-bit programs in folders such as

    c:/program files (x86)\MyProgram\

    indicating that 32-bit programs are put in there,
    and junction-points are made in the NTFS system so that an app which
    requires
    "c:/program files\"
    will still be able to run.
    So if you do only have the 32bit version of Windows Mail, you might try
    placing it in the
    (x86) Version of the program files folder.
    However i do beleive that WindowsMail is the exception to the rule und only
    64bit ver of WinMail will run on 64 bit windows 7.

    regards

    Roland Schweiger
     
  8. Steve

    Steve Flightless Bird

    I have 64 bit Windows 7 Ultimate myself and would love Windows Mail back
    (hate widows live mail). My trouble is I have no 64 bit Vista to get
    the folders from (not of my own or family/friends). What options do I
    have if any?

    Sorry about the hijack.

    "Gary I" <gi1ol@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:LNCdnabQr_Xnss7WnZ2dnUVZ_gydnZ2d@earthlink.com...
    > I'm happy to see separate Inbox back again! A junk email account and a
    > reserved (secure) account with messages remaining separated is my
    > desire.
    >
    > "Mortimer" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
    > news:7rgg9bFpd5U1@mid.individual.net...
    >> Various forums tell you that all you need to do is to copy the
    >> c:/Program Files\Windows Mail files/folders from Vista to Win 7
    >> (after saving the current contents in case it goes pear-shaped).
    >>
    >> But I can't make this work.
    >>
    >> If I copy the files from 32-bit Vista to the c:/Program Files\Windows
    >> Mail folder on 64-bit Win 7, WinMail.exe spawns loads of "Windows
    >> Mail *32" processes which consume vast amounts of memory within about
    >> a minute.
    >>
    >> If I try copy them to c:/Program Files (x86)\Windows Mail, there are
    >> permission problems: some of the existing files are owned by
    >> TrustedInstaller and even running Explorer as Administrator I can't
    >> set permission to delete/overwrite them.
    >>
    >> Running WinMail.exe from a different folder (eg copy everything to a
    >> folder in my Documents folder) the processes run (there's a WinMail
    >> and a WinMail *32 process showing up in Task Manager) but no splash
    >> screen or window opens.
    >>
    >> What am I doing wrong? Is it there any way of running the 32-bit
    >> version of Vista's Windows Mail on a 64-bit version of Windows 7?
    >>
    >> If I were able to run it, what restrictions are there? Some sites
    >> suggest that it can't be made the default MAPI client for Mail and
    >> News, which isn't a show-stopper, but is there anything else?
    >>
    >> I loathe Windows Live Mail - it looks like a toy, with its pastel
    >> colours, its lack of dividing lines and lack of +/- boxes on nested
    >> folders etc. And I don't like having separate Inbox, Sent Items and
    >> Deleted Items for each mail account.
    >>
    >> I've looked at Turnpike but that has the same issue of separate
    >> folders for each account and, even worse, won't allow you to
    >> export/import multiple mail messages as eml files to allow messages
    >> that have been sent on one PC (eg a laptop) to be blended into the
    >> Sent Items folder on another PC, either by attaching them to an email
    >> or else by copying them as .eml files to a shared drive or removeable
    >> drive.

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  9. Dave-UK

    Dave-UK Flightless Bird

    "Steve" <saw1959@mchsi.remove.com> wrote in message
    news:mq6dnflUacG9sjjWnZ2dnUVZ_jqdnZ2d@mchsi.com...
    > I have 64 bit Windows 7 Ultimate myself and would love Windows Mail back (hate widows live mail).
    > My trouble is I have no 64 bit Vista to get the folders from (not of my own or family/friends).
    > What options do I have if any?
    >
    > Sorry about the hijack.
    >


    Which files/folders do you want?
    I have the DVD images and can extract any files.
     
  10. Steve

    Steve Flightless Bird

    I got it going. Thank you for the response.


    "Dave-UK" <Here@Home.com> wrote in message
    news:E7idnZ7sNo6aozjWnZ2dnUVZ7smdnZ2d@giganews.com...
    >
    > "Steve" <saw1959@mchsi.remove.com> wrote in message
    > news:mq6dnflUacG9sjjWnZ2dnUVZ_jqdnZ2d@mchsi.com...
    >> I have 64 bit Windows 7 Ultimate myself and would love Windows Mail back
    >> (hate widows live mail). My trouble is I have no 64 bit Vista to get the
    >> folders from (not of my own or family/friends). What options do I have if
    >> any?
    >>
    >> Sorry about the hijack.
    >>

    >
    > Which files/folders do you want?
    > I have the DVD images and can extract any files.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus
    > signature database 4959 (20100319) __________
    >
    > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.
    >
    > http://www.eset.com
    >
    >
    >



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    The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.

    http://www.eset.com
     

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