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Widows restore only goes back for one day.

Discussion in 'Windows XP' started by Frank Martin, Apr 11, 2010.

  1. Frank Martin

    Frank Martin Flightless Bird

    I have WindowsXP SP3,


    For some reason I get only one restore point with System
    Restore.

    I have the following drive settings:

    C: 6%
    D: 4%
    E 4%

    In the past I could automatically get several day's restore
    points. Why do I get only one now?

    Please help, Frank
     
  2. Jose

    Jose Flightless Bird

    On Apr 11, 9:32 pm, "Frank Martin" <f...@general.com.au> wrote:
    > I have WindowsXP SP3,
    >
    > For some reason I get only one restore point with System
    > Restore.
    >
    > I have the following drive settings:
    >
    > C: 6%
    > D: 4%
    > E  4%
    >
    > In the past I could automatically get several day's restore
    > points.   Why do I get only one now?
    >
    > Please help, Frank


    Are you able to ascertain that the one RP you have is the most recent?

    If you have chosen to use the XP Disk Cleanup or some third party
    application like CCleaner with certain options, all but the last RP
    will be deleted if you choose to do so. Any of that sound familiar?

    You can test your SR by making a manual RP, reboot, check to be sure a
    new RP was created in the calendar and then wait at least 24 hours and
    see if XP will make a RP on it's own when the time to create a new RP
    rolls around. XP would like to create a new RP every 24 hours, but
    may not do so automatically for a number of reasons - which, I can
    explain why not later if needed. Some system configuration changes or
    software installations will also force a new RP before the 24 hours
    expires. So, you can have days and days go by with no RPs and some
    days with several, but nothing should defy explanation when it comes
    to RPs.

    If you are even remotely suspicious about your SR, then I would do
    this:

    Perform some scans for malicious software, then fix any remaining
    issues:

    Download, install, update and do a full scan with these free malware
    detection programs:

    Malwarebytes (MBAM): http://malwarebytes.org/
    SUPERAntiSpyware: (SAS): http://www.superantispyware.com/

    They can be uninstalled later if desired.
     
  3. Unknown

    Unknown Flightless Bird

    Many posts on this newsgroup indicate Zone Alarm is responsible. Do you have
    ZA installed?
    "Frank Martin" <fm@general.com.au> wrote in message
    news:%23zhBCAe2KHA.6048@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    >I have WindowsXP SP3,
    >
    >
    > For some reason I get only one restore point with System Restore.
    >
    > I have the following drive settings:
    >
    > C: 6%
    > D: 4%
    > E 4%
    >
    > In the past I could automatically get several day's restore points. Why
    > do I get only one now?
    >
    > Please help, Frank
    >
     
  4. Bob I

    Bob I Flightless Bird

    And Symantec can interfere

    Unknown wrote:

    > Many posts on this newsgroup indicate Zone Alarm is responsible. Do you have
    > ZA installed?
    > "Frank Martin" <fm@general.com.au> wrote in message
    > news:%23zhBCAe2KHA.6048@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    >
    >>I have WindowsXP SP3,
    >>
    >>
    >>For some reason I get only one restore point with System Restore.
    >>
    >>I have the following drive settings:
    >>
    >>C: 6%
    >>D: 4%
    >>E 4%
    >>
    >>In the past I could automatically get several day's restore points. Why
    >>do I get only one now?
    >>
    >>Please help, Frank
    >>

    >
    >
    >
     
  5. Lem

    Lem Flightless Bird

    Frank Martin wrote:
    > I have WindowsXP SP3,
    >
    >
    > For some reason I get only one restore point with System
    > Restore.
    >
    > I have the following drive settings:
    >
    > C: 6%
    > D: 4%
    > E 4%
    >
    > In the past I could automatically get several day's restore
    > points. Why do I get only one now?
    >
    > Please help, Frank
    >
    >


    1. The percentages are not as important as the actual disk space
    allocated to System Restore. Try to have about 1 GB.
    2. You only need System Restore on the system partition, which
    presumably is C:. Turn it off on D: and E:
    3. Under some circumstances (which I can't recall at the moment), System
    Restore points become very large, which will limit the number of restore
    points that fit into the space allocated.
    4. For everything you wanted to know about System Restore, and more, see
    http://bertk.mvps.org/

    --
    Lem

    Apollo 11 - 40 years ago:
    http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/apollo/40th/index.html
     
  6. Daave

    Daave Flightless Bird

    Lem wrote:
    > Frank Martin wrote:
    >> I have WindowsXP SP3,
    >>
    >>
    >> For some reason I get only one restore point with System
    >> Restore.
    >>
    >> I have the following drive settings:
    >>
    >> C: 6%
    >> D: 4%
    >> E 4%
    >>
    >> In the past I could automatically get several day's restore
    >> points. Why do I get only one now?
    >>
    >> Please help, Frank
    >>
    >>

    >
    > 1. The percentages are not as important as the actual disk space
    > allocated to System Restore. Try to have about 1 GB.
    > 2. You only need System Restore on the system partition, which
    > presumably is C:. Turn it off on D: and E:
    > 3. Under some circumstances (which I can't recall at the moment),
    > System Restore points become very large, which will limit the number
    > of restore points that fit into the space allocated.
    > 4. For everything you wanted to know about System Restore, and more,
    > see http://bertk.mvps.org/


    +1
     
  7. Lem

    Lem Flightless Bird

    Lem wrote:
    > Frank Martin wrote:
    >> I have WindowsXP SP3,
    >>
    >>
    >> For some reason I get only one restore point with System Restore.
    >>
    >> I have the following drive settings:
    >>
    >> C: 6%
    >> D: 4%
    >> E 4%
    >>
    >> In the past I could automatically get several day's restore points.
    >> Why do I get only one now?
    >>
    >> Please help, Frank
    >>

    >
    > 1. The percentages are not as important as the actual disk space
    > allocated to System Restore. Try to have about 1 GB.
    > 2. You only need System Restore on the system partition, which
    > presumably is C:. Turn it off on D: and E:
    > 3. Under some circumstances (which I can't recall at the moment), System
    > Restore points become very large, which will limit the number of restore
    > points that fit into the space allocated.
    > 4. For everything you wanted to know about System Restore, and more, see
    > http://bertk.mvps.org/
    >


    Also see recent post by mkenewbie "No prior system restore points" --
    the problem there was caused by a recent update to ZoneAlarm:

    > Thanks for ALL the suggestions here from those who responded. It DID turn out
    > to be an issue with Zone Alarms' latest update. Seems many (or everyone) that
    > updated to it has the same issue of only the current System Restore Point
    > being shown. All previous ones are wiped out.
    >
    > I chatted live with their tech group and they are aware of it and working on
    > it. So presumably a new update will be forthcoming. In the meantime one can
    > go back to a previous version or just risk having one restore point available.




    --
    Lem

    Apollo 11 - 40 years ago:
    http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/apollo/40th/index.html
     
  8. Frank Martin

    Frank Martin Flightless Bird

    Thank you. I have CCleaner and I switched this off for two
    days as a test.

    Sure enough, the extra restore points are now being added.


    So is was CCleaner V2.25. How do I adjust CCleaner to
    prevent it trashing past restore points?

    Please help, Frank

    (I already have "Malwarebytes" which I run regularly.)





    "Jose" <jose_ease@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:bf866473-f9d5-4be9-9f4c-4bef54ed19c6@x12g2000yqx.googlegroups.com...
    On Apr 11, 9:32 pm, "Frank Martin" <f...@general.com.au>
    wrote:
    > I have WindowsXP SP3,
    >
    > For some reason I get only one restore point with System
    > Restore.
    >
    > I have the following drive settings:
    >
    > C: 6%
    > D: 4%
    > E 4%
    >
    > In the past I could automatically get several day's
    > restore
    > points. Why do I get only one now?
    >
    > Please help, Frank


    Are you able to ascertain that the one RP you have is the
    most recent?

    If you have chosen to use the XP Disk Cleanup or some third
    party
    application like CCleaner with certain options, all but the
    last RP
    will be deleted if you choose to do so. Any of that sound
    familiar?

    You can test your SR by making a manual RP, reboot, check to
    be sure a
    new RP was created in the calendar and then wait at least 24
    hours and
    see if XP will make a RP on it's own when the time to create
    a new RP
    rolls around. XP would like to create a new RP every 24
    hours, but
    may not do so automatically for a number of reasons - which,
    I can
    explain why not later if needed. Some system configuration
    changes or
    software installations will also force a new RP before the
    24 hours
    expires. So, you can have days and days go by with no RPs
    and some
    days with several, but nothing should defy explanation when
    it comes
    to RPs.

    If you are even remotely suspicious about your SR, then I
    would do
    this:

    Perform some scans for malicious software, then fix any
    remaining
    issues:

    Download, install, update and do a full scan with these free
    malware
    detection programs:

    Malwarebytes (MBAM): http://malwarebytes.org/
    SUPERAntiSpyware: (SAS): http://www.superantispyware.com/

    They can be uninstalled later if desired.
     
  9. Jose

    Jose Flightless Bird

    On Apr 13, 6:35 pm, "Frank Martin" <f...@general.com.au> wrote:
    > Thank you.  I have CCleaner and I switched this off for two
    > days as a test.
    >
    > Sure enough, the extra restore points are now being added.
    >
    > So is was CCleaner V2.25.   How do I adjust CCleaner to
    > prevent it trashing past restore points?
    >
    > Please help, Frank
    >


    Well, your CCleaner version is old - 2.30 is out now.

    Looking at their forums, some users reported this phenomenon and the
    CCleaner people said "no way!" (unless you manually did it).

    One user said he narrowed it down and figured out that if he used
    CCleaner to empty the Recycle Bin, it took the RPs with it.
    Unconfirmed, but that guy is convinced.

    I just used CCleaner 2.30 and emptied my RB and my RPs were still
    there.

    I put some things in my RB and set up CCleaner to run on startup,
    rebooted and it did run/cleanup and my RPs will still there.

    In the past few days, some version of ZoneAlarm seems to be behind all
    but the last RP being deleted too, so do you also have ZA installed?

    It could be CCleaner, but if I were you I would:

    Get on the current version of CCleaner
    Configure CCleaner to run on startup if that is your desire
    Make some RPs by hand so you don't have to wait days to test.
    Reboot
    See if the RPs were deleted

    I imagine the CCleaner people would like to hear about your issue in
    their forums if you can reproduce it consistently on their latest
    version.

    http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner/help
     
  10. Jose

    Jose Flightless Bird

    On Apr 14, 7:34 am, Jose <jose_e...@yahoo.com> wrote:
    > On Apr 13, 6:35 pm, "Frank Martin" <f...@general.com.au> wrote:
    >
    > > Thank you.  I have CCleaner and I switched this off for two
    > > days as a test.

    >
    > > Sure enough, the extra restore points are now being added.

    >
    > > So is was CCleaner V2.25.   How do I adjust CCleaner to
    > > prevent it trashing past restore points?

    >
    > > Please help, Frank

    >
    > Well, your CCleaner version is old - 2.30 is out now.
    >
    > Looking at their forums, some users reported this phenomenon and the
    > CCleaner people said "no way!" (unless you manually did it).
    >
    > One user said he narrowed it down and figured out that if he used
    > CCleaner to empty the Recycle Bin, it took the RPs with it.
    > Unconfirmed,  but that guy is convinced.
    >
    > I just used CCleaner 2.30 and emptied my RB and my RPs were still
    > there.
    >
    > I put some things in my RB and set up CCleaner to run on startup,
    > rebooted and it did run/cleanup and my RPs will still there.
    >
    > In the past few days, some version of ZoneAlarm seems to be behind all
    > but the last RP being deleted too, so do you also have ZA installed?
    >
    > It could be CCleaner, but if I were you I would:
    >
    > Get on the current version of CCleaner
    > Configure CCleaner to run on startup if that is your desire
    > Make some RPs by hand so you don't have to wait days to test.
    > Reboot
    > See if the RPs were deleted
    >
    > I imagine the CCleaner people would like to hear about your issue in
    > their forums if you can reproduce it consistently on their latest
    > version.
    >
    > http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner/help


    Oh yeah - we would like to hear what you discover too.
     
  11. Frank Martin

    Frank Martin Flightless Bird

    "Jose" <jose_ease@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:2fb34f15-212c-464e-a46d-8230666c6c17@u21g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
    On Apr 13, 6:35 pm, "Frank Martin" <f...@general.com.au>
    wrote:
    > Thank you. I have CCleaner and I switched this off for two
    > days as a test.
    >
    > Sure enough, the extra restore points are now being added.
    >
    > So is was CCleaner V2.25. How do I adjust CCleaner to
    > prevent it trashing past restore points?
    >
    > Please help, Frank
    >


    Well, your CCleaner version is old - 2.30 is out now.

    Looking at their forums, some users reported this phenomenon
    and the
    CCleaner people said "no way!" (unless you manually did it).

    One user said he narrowed it down and figured out that if he
    used
    CCleaner to empty the Recycle Bin, it took the RPs with it.
    Unconfirmed, but that guy is convinced.

    I just used CCleaner 2.30 and emptied my RB and my RPs were
    still
    there.

    I put some things in my RB and set up CCleaner to run on
    startup,
    rebooted and it did run/cleanup and my RPs will still there.

    In the past few days, some version of ZoneAlarm seems to be
    behind all
    but the last RP being deleted too, so do you also have ZA
    installed?

    It could be CCleaner, but if I were you I would:

    Get on the current version of CCleaner
    Configure CCleaner to run on startup if that is your desire
    Make some RPs by hand so you don't have to wait days to
    test.
    Reboot
    See if the RPs were deleted

    I imagine the CCleaner people would like to hear about your
    issue in
    their forums if you can reproduce it consistently on their
    latest
    version.

    http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner/help


    Thanks, I have been searching about this and CCleaer *does*
    trash the System Restore (earlier than one day) on
    principle, because these can contain sensitive data.

    Evidently one must go to the Options|Exclude in the CCleaner
    area and add the folder/file one wishes to be left alone.
    For the System Restore this appears to be
    C:/System Volume Information\*.*

    I am testing this at the moment. Can you tell me if
    C:/System Volume Information\*.* completely defines the
    System Restore?

    Frank...
     
  12. Frank Martin

    Frank Martin Flightless Bird

    "Jose" <jose_ease@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:76742370-c7fd-4991-bc84-9c1b99946f80@y14g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
    On Apr 14, 7:34 am, Jose <jose_e...@yahoo.com> wrote:
    > On Apr 13, 6:35 pm, "Frank Martin" <f...@general.com.au>
    > wrote:
    >
    > > Thank you. I have CCleaner and I switched this off for
    > > two
    > > days as a test.

    >
    > > Sure enough, the extra restore points are now being
    > > added.

    >
    > > So is was CCleaner V2.25. How do I adjust CCleaner to
    > > prevent it trashing past restore points?

    >
    > > Please help, Frank

    >
    > Well, your CCleaner version is old - 2.30 is out now.
    >
    > Looking at their forums, some users reported this
    > phenomenon and the
    > CCleaner people said "no way!" (unless you manually did
    > it).
    >
    > One user said he narrowed it down and figured out that if
    > he used
    > CCleaner to empty the Recycle Bin, it took the RPs with
    > it.
    > Unconfirmed, but that guy is convinced.
    >
    > I just used CCleaner 2.30 and emptied my RB and my RPs
    > were still
    > there.
    >
    > I put some things in my RB and set up CCleaner to run on
    > startup,
    > rebooted and it did run/cleanup and my RPs will still
    > there.
    >
    > In the past few days, some version of ZoneAlarm seems to
    > be behind all
    > but the last RP being deleted too, so do you also have ZA
    > installed?
    >
    > It could be CCleaner, but if I were you I would:
    >
    > Get on the current version of CCleaner
    > Configure CCleaner to run on startup if that is your
    > desire
    > Make some RPs by hand so you don't have to wait days to
    > test.
    > Reboot
    > See if the RPs were deleted
    >
    > I imagine the CCleaner people would like to hear about
    > your issue in
    > their forums if you can reproduce it consistently on their
    > latest
    > version.
    >
    > http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner/help


    Oh yeah - we would like to hear what you discover too.


    All I have is Malwarebytes.
     

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