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Discussion in 'Windows 7' started by Dave, Oct 9, 2010.

  1. Dave

    Dave Flightless Bird

    1. Someone posted a link and/or tip concerning a rescue disk. I managed to
    screw up the burn, didn't have time to continue with it and now I can't find
    the original file. Would whoever posted that post it again?

    2. Does anyone know of a good usenet search engine? I searched for that and
    the only hits I got were for binaries, which I already have, and none for
    groups such as this one.
    Thanks in advance,
    Dave
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  2. Ken Blake

    Ken Blake Flightless Bird

    On Sat, 9 Oct 2010 12:53:58 -0500, "Dave" <dave@unknown.invalid>
    wrote:


    > 2. Does anyone know of a good usenet search engine? I searched for that and
    > the only hits I got were for binaries, which I already have, and none for
    > groups such as this one.




    http://groups.google.com/advanced_search?q=&
     
  3. Nil

    Nil Flightless Bird

    On 09 Oct 2010, Ken Blake <kblake@kb.invalid> wrote in
    alt.windows7.general:

    > On Sat, 9 Oct 2010 12:53:58 -0500, "Dave" <dave@unknown.invalid>
    > wrote:
    >
    >> 2. Does anyone know of a good usenet search engine? I searched
    >> for that and the only hits I got were for binaries, which I
    >> already have, and none for groups such as this one.

    >
    > http://groups.google.com/advanced_search?q=&


    It won't search this group, though. For some reason, Google refuses to
    add it to their repository.
     
  4. Ken Blake

    Ken Blake Flightless Bird

    On Sat, 09 Oct 2010 14:08:03 -0400, Nil
    <rednoise@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> wrote:

    > On 09 Oct 2010, Ken Blake <kblake@kb.invalid> wrote in
    > alt.windows7.general:
    >
    > > On Sat, 9 Oct 2010 12:53:58 -0500, "Dave" <dave@unknown.invalid>
    > > wrote:
    > >
    > >> 2. Does anyone know of a good usenet search engine? I searched
    > >> for that and the only hits I got were for binaries, which I
    > >> already have, and none for groups such as this one.

    > >
    > > http://groups.google.com/advanced_search?q=&

    >
    > It won't search this group, though. For some reason, Google refuses to
    > add it to their repository.



    Thanks, I hadn't realized that, and I wonder why that's so.
     
  5. Dave-UK

    Dave-UK Flightless Bird

    "Dave" <dave@unknown.invalid> wrote in message news:GJmdnaiDAaOlMS3RnZ2dnUVZ_tmdnZ2d@sigecom.net...
    > 1. Someone posted a link and/or tip concerning a rescue disk. I managed to
    > screw up the burn, didn't have time to continue with it and now I can't find
    > the original file. Would whoever posted that post it again?
    >


    You could try searching all downloaded messages for keywords.
    From the Edit menu (Alt-M to toggle the menu bar if you can't see it)
    Find > message
    Make sure it says alt.windows7.general in the 'Look in:' box and enter
    any keywords in the Message box.

    Can you remember the name of this rescue disk or the context in
    which it was mentioned ?
     
  6. Char Jackson

    Char Jackson Flightless Bird

    On Sat, 09 Oct 2010 14:08:03 -0400, Nil
    <rednoise@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> wrote:

    >On 09 Oct 2010, Ken Blake <kblake@kb.invalid> wrote in
    >alt.windows7.general:
    >
    >> On Sat, 9 Oct 2010 12:53:58 -0500, "Dave" <dave@unknown.invalid>
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >>> 2. Does anyone know of a good usenet search engine? I searched
    >>> for that and the only hits I got were for binaries, which I
    >>> already have, and none for groups such as this one.

    >>
    >> http://groups.google.com/advanced_search?q=&

    >
    >It won't search this group, though. For some reason, Google refuses to
    >add it to their repository.


    This might not be the answer you're looking for, but I have always
    found it easiest to maintain my own archive for certain groups. That
    way you can search to your heart's content.

    Since you're starting from scratch, you'd have to decide how much
    history you want, then download the posts back that far and continue
    going forward. If your current Usenet provider doesn't have the
    history you want, you could either buy a small block of Gigs at
    Astraweb, for example, or perhaps use one of the many free trials that
    the premium Usenet providers always offer. That would give you several
    years worth of history, if not more.
     
  7. Nil

    Nil Flightless Bird

    On 09 Oct 2010, Ken Blake <kblake@kb.invalid> wrote in
    alt.windows7.general:

    > On Sat, 09 Oct 2010 14:08:03 -0400, Nil
    ><rednoise@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> wrote:
    >> It won't search this group, though. For some reason, Google
    >> refuses to add it to their repository.

    >
    > Thanks, I hadn't realized that, and I wonder why that's so.


    I've asked them several times to add alt.windows7.general. Not that
    they would necessarily be paying attention to me, but I assume plenty
    of other people have also asked.
     
  8. Ken Blake

    Ken Blake Flightless Bird

    On Sat, 9 Oct 2010 19:37:02 +0100, "Dave-UK" <Here@Home.com> wrote:

    >
    > "Dave" <dave@unknown.invalid> wrote in message news:GJmdnaiDAaOlMS3RnZ2dnUVZ_tmdnZ2d@sigecom.net...
    > > 1. Someone posted a link and/or tip concerning a rescue disk. I managed to
    > > screw up the burn, didn't have time to continue with it and now I can't find
    > > the original file. Would whoever posted that post it again?
    > >

    >
    > You could try searching all downloaded messages for keywords.
    > From the Edit menu (Alt-M to toggle the menu bar if you can't see it)
    > Find > message
    > Make sure it says alt.windows7.general in the 'Look in:' box and enter
    > any keywords in the Message box.



    In *what* program?



    > Can you remember the name of this rescue disk or the context in
    > which it was mentioned ?
     
  9. Allen

    Allen Flightless Bird

    Nil wrote:
    > On 09 Oct 2010, Ken Blake <kblake@kb.invalid> wrote in
    > alt.windows7.general:
    >
    >> On Sat, 9 Oct 2010 12:53:58 -0500, "Dave" <dave@unknown.invalid>
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >>> 2. Does anyone know of a good usenet search engine? I searched
    >>> for that and the only hits I got were for binaries, which I
    >>> already have, and none for groups such as this one.

    >> http://groups.google.com/advanced_search?q=&

    >
    > It won't search this group, though. For some reason, Google refuses to
    > add it to their repository.

    I don't use Google Groups, so I know nothing about it. Does it search
    _any_ alt. groups?
    Allen
     
  10. Dave-UK

    Dave-UK Flightless Bird

    "Ken Blake" <kblake@kb.invalid> wrote in message news:ilh1b652pcn05omas5f1dg4ba2lkr8781l@4ax.com...
    > On Sat, 9 Oct 2010 19:37:02 +0100, "Dave-UK" <Here@Home.com> wrote:
    >
    >>
    >> "Dave" <dave@unknown.invalid> wrote in message
    >> news:GJmdnaiDAaOlMS3RnZ2dnUVZ_tmdnZ2d@sigecom.net...
    >> > 1. Someone posted a link and/or tip concerning a rescue disk. I managed to
    >> > screw up the burn, didn't have time to continue with it and now I can't find
    >> > the original file. Would whoever posted that post it again?
    >> >

    >>
    >> You could try searching all downloaded messages for keywords.
    >> From the Edit menu (Alt-M to toggle the menu bar if you can't see it)
    >> Find > message
    >> Make sure it says alt.windows7.general in the 'Look in:' box and enter
    >> any keywords in the Message box.

    >
    >
    > In *what* program?
    >
    >


    The program the OP is using to read this newsgroup - Windows Live Mail.
    (If you look at the properties of the post you can see the newsreader listed.)
     
  11. Ken Blake

    Ken Blake Flightless Bird

    On Sat, 09 Oct 2010 16:07:25 -0500, Allen <allent@austin.rr.com>
    wrote:

    > Nil wrote:
    > > On 09 Oct 2010, Ken Blake <kblake@kb.invalid> wrote in
    > > alt.windows7.general:
    > >
    > >> On Sat, 9 Oct 2010 12:53:58 -0500, "Dave" <dave@unknown.invalid>
    > >> wrote:
    > >>
    > >>> 2. Does anyone know of a good usenet search engine? I searched
    > >>> for that and the only hits I got were for binaries, which I
    > >>> already have, and none for groups such as this one.
    > >> http://groups.google.com/advanced_search?q=&

    > >
    > > It won't search this group, though. For some reason, Google refuses to
    > > add it to their repository.

    > I don't use Google Groups, so I know nothing about it. Does it search
    > _any_ alt. groups?



    Yes, almost *all* alt. groups.
     
  12. Ken Blake

    Ken Blake Flightless Bird

    On Sat, 9 Oct 2010 22:45:03 +0100, "Dave-UK" <Here@Home.com> wrote:

    >
    > "Ken Blake" <kblake@kb.invalid> wrote in message news:ilh1b652pcn05omas5f1dg4ba2lkr8781l@4ax.com...
    > > On Sat, 9 Oct 2010 19:37:02 +0100, "Dave-UK" <Here@Home.com> wrote:
    > >
    > >>
    > >> "Dave" <dave@unknown.invalid> wrote in message
    > >> news:GJmdnaiDAaOlMS3RnZ2dnUVZ_tmdnZ2d@sigecom.net...
    > >> > 1. Someone posted a link and/or tip concerning a rescue disk. I managed to
    > >> > screw up the burn, didn't have time to continue with it and now I can't find
    > >> > the original file. Would whoever posted that post it again?
    > >> >
    > >>
    > >> You could try searching all downloaded messages for keywords.
    > >> From the Edit menu (Alt-M to toggle the menu bar if you can't see it)
    > >> Find > message
    > >> Make sure it says alt.windows7.general in the 'Look in:' box and enter
    > >> any keywords in the Message box.

    > >
    > >
    > > In *what* program?
    > >
    > >

    >
    > The program the OP is using to read this newsgroup - Windows Live Mail.
    > (If you look at the properties of the post you can see the newsreader listed.)



    Yes, yes--I know. In all probability you are right. My point was that
    his message about what keys to press is *meaningless* if he doesn't
    tell us what program he's talking about. He perhaps thinks that
    because he's using Windows Live Mail to read newsgroups, there are no
    other choices and that's what everyone else also uses. It's like
    telling someone if he wants to make his television set louder, he
    should press the button in the lower left corner of his remote
    control.
     
  13. Stan Brown

    Stan Brown Flightless Bird

    On Sat, 09 Oct 2010 14:08:03 -0400, Nil wrote:
    >
    > On 09 Oct 2010, Ken Blake <kblake@kb.invalid> wrote in
    > alt.windows7.general:
    >
    > > On Sat, 9 Oct 2010 12:53:58 -0500, "Dave" <dave@unknown.invalid>
    > > wrote:
    > >
    > >> 2. Does anyone know of a good usenet search engine? I searched
    > >> for that and the only hits I got were for binaries, which I
    > >> already have, and none for groups such as this one.

    > >
    > > http://groups.google.com/advanced_search?q=&

    >
    > It won't search this group, though. For some reason, Google refuses to
    > add it to their repository.


    That's bizarre, and disappointing. I realize that I've forgotten
    something I learned during the thread on converting to NTFS,
    something about different ways to start a command prompt with
    elevated privilege, and I wanted to go back and find it.

    --
    Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
    http://OakRoadSystems.com
    Shikata ga nai...
     
  14. Nil

    Nil Flightless Bird

    On 09 Oct 2010, Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> wrote in
    alt.windows7.general:

    > That's bizarre, and disappointing. I realize that I've forgotten
    > something I learned during the thread on converting to NTFS,
    > something about different ways to start a command prompt with
    > elevated privilege, and I wanted to go back and find it.


    Goes to show you how dependent on Google we are and how important those
    archives are. It's a treasure trove of accumulated knowledge. I hate to
    think what would happen if Google decided it wasn't worth maintaining.
    The fact that they won't add a new group such as this seems to me to be
    not a good sign. I can't really think what good it does for them, and
    it must be a resource drain. There is no other alternative, no other
    active comprehensive Usenet archive that I know of.
     
  15. Frank

    Frank Flightless Bird

    On 10/9/2010 4:03 PM, Nil wrote:
    > On 09 Oct 2010, Stan Brown<the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> wrote in
    > alt.windows7.general:
    >
    >> That's bizarre, and disappointing. I realize that I've forgotten
    >> something I learned during the thread on converting to NTFS,
    >> something about different ways to start a command prompt with
    >> elevated privilege, and I wanted to go back and find it.

    >
    > Goes to show you how dependent on Google we are and how important those
    > archives are. It's a treasure trove of accumulated knowledge. I hate to
    > think what would happen if Google decided it wasn't worth maintaining.
    > The fact that they won't add a new group such as this seems to me to be
    > not a good sign. I can't really think what good it does for them, and
    > it must be a resource drain. There is no other alternative, no other
    > active comprehensive Usenet archive that I know of.


    I haven't used google for almost 6 months. I use only Bing and I have
    never not gotten sufficient info about what I was googling! :)
     
  16. Nil

    Nil Flightless Bird

    On 09 Oct 2010, Frank <fb@win7x32.esd> wrote in
    alt.windows7.general:

    > I haven't used google for almost 6 months. I use only Bing and I
    > have never not gotten sufficient info about what I was googling!
    > :)


    I'm talking about Google's usenet archive, not its web search engine.
    Bing doesn't seach usenet, does it?

    I don't care for Bing's layout for its search results. Maybe I'm just
    too used to the way Google does it.
     
  17. Char Jackson

    Char Jackson Flightless Bird

    On Sat, 09 Oct 2010 19:03:48 -0400, Nil
    <rednoise@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> wrote:

    >On 09 Oct 2010, Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> wrote in
    >alt.windows7.general:
    >
    >> That's bizarre, and disappointing. I realize that I've forgotten
    >> something I learned during the thread on converting to NTFS,
    >> something about different ways to start a command prompt with
    >> elevated privilege, and I wanted to go back and find it.

    >
    >Goes to show you how dependent on Google we are and how important those
    >archives are. It's a treasure trove of accumulated knowledge. I hate to
    >think what would happen if Google decided it wasn't worth maintaining.


    If it's a group you care about, nothing would happen if Google dumped
    their archive. You'd simply create and use your own archive for that
    group.

    >The fact that they won't add a new group such as this seems to me to be
    >not a good sign. I can't really think what good it does for them, and
    >it must be a resource drain. There is no other alternative, no other
    >active comprehensive Usenet archive that I know of.


    It's much easier to do a local search (on your own computer) in one or
    more Usenet groups than to do a Google search on those same groups.
    It's been a few years since I used Google to search Usenet. I don't
    think I would miss it.
     
  18. Nil

    Nil Flightless Bird

    On 09 Oct 2010, Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> wrote in
    alt.windows7.general:

    > If it's a group you care about, nothing would happen if Google
    > dumped their archive. You'd simply create and use your own archive
    > for that group.


    I haven't archived anything before now so it would be lost to me. I
    could lose the archive through mechanical failure. People should be
    able to search the archives in general and get hits in any existing
    group.

    > It's much easier to do a local search (on your own computer) in
    > one or more Usenet groups than to do a Google search on those same
    > groups. It's been a few years since I used Google to search
    > Usenet. I don't think I would miss it.


    I would miss it immensely. Poor as the Google usenet archives search
    is, it's the only way to search the entire collected wisdom of Usenet
    since the mid-'90s.
     
  19. Dave-UK

    Dave-UK Flightless Bird

    "Ken Blake" <kblake@kb.invalid> wrote in message news:fpp1b6tmk571ut4ttpvd1kcq7a5h52vti8@4ax.com...
    > On Sat, 9 Oct 2010 22:45:03 +0100, "Dave-UK" <Here@Home.com> wrote:
    >
    >>
    >> "Ken Blake" <kblake@kb.invalid> wrote in message
    >> news:ilh1b652pcn05omas5f1dg4ba2lkr8781l@4ax.com...
    >> > On Sat, 9 Oct 2010 19:37:02 +0100, "Dave-UK" <Here@Home.com> wrote:
    >> >
    >> >>
    >> >> "Dave" <dave@unknown.invalid> wrote in message
    >> >> news:GJmdnaiDAaOlMS3RnZ2dnUVZ_tmdnZ2d@sigecom.net...
    >> >> > 1. Someone posted a link and/or tip concerning a rescue disk. I managed to
    >> >> > screw up the burn, didn't have time to continue with it and now I can't find
    >> >> > the original file. Would whoever posted that post it again?
    >> >> >
    >> >>
    >> >> You could try searching all downloaded messages for keywords.
    >> >> From the Edit menu (Alt-M to toggle the menu bar if you can't see it)
    >> >> Find > message
    >> >> Make sure it says alt.windows7.general in the 'Look in:' box and enter
    >> >> any keywords in the Message box.
    >> >
    >> >
    >> > In *what* program?
    >> >
    >> >

    >>
    >> The program the OP is using to read this newsgroup - Windows Live Mail.
    >> (If you look at the properties of the post you can see the newsreader listed.)

    >
    >
    > Yes, yes--I know. In all probability you are right. My point was that
    > his message about what keys to press is *meaningless* if he doesn't
    > tell us what program he's talking about. He perhaps thinks that
    > because he's using Windows Live Mail to read newsgroups, there are no
    > other choices and that's what everyone else also uses. It's like
    > telling someone if he wants to make his television set louder, he
    > should press the button in the lower left corner of his remote
    > control.
    >


    You obviously forget who you reply to.
    Who is this ' he ' ?
     
  20. Ken Blake

    Ken Blake Flightless Bird

    On Sun, 10 Oct 2010 10:10:00 +0100, "Dave-UK" <Here@Home.com> wrote:

    >
    > "Ken Blake" <kblake@kb.invalid> wrote in message news:fpp1b6tmk571ut4ttpvd1kcq7a5h52vti8@4ax.com...
    > > On Sat, 9 Oct 2010 22:45:03 +0100, "Dave-UK" <Here@Home.com> wrote:
    > >
    > >>
    > >> "Ken Blake" <kblake@kb.invalid> wrote in message
    > >> news:ilh1b652pcn05omas5f1dg4ba2lkr8781l@4ax.com...
    > >> > On Sat, 9 Oct 2010 19:37:02 +0100, "Dave-UK" <Here@Home.com> wrote:
    > >> >
    > >> >>
    > >> >> "Dave" <dave@unknown.invalid> wrote in message
    > >> >> news:GJmdnaiDAaOlMS3RnZ2dnUVZ_tmdnZ2d@sigecom.net...
    > >> >> > 1. Someone posted a link and/or tip concerning a rescue disk. I managed to
    > >> >> > screw up the burn, didn't have time to continue with it and now I can't find
    > >> >> > the original file. Would whoever posted that post it again?
    > >> >> >
    > >> >>
    > >> >> You could try searching all downloaded messages for keywords.
    > >> >> From the Edit menu (Alt-M to toggle the menu bar if you can't see it)
    > >> >> Find > message
    > >> >> Make sure it says alt.windows7.general in the 'Look in:' box and enter
    > >> >> any keywords in the Message box.
    > >> >
    > >> >
    > >> > In *what* program?
    > >> >
    > >> >
    > >>
    > >> The program the OP is using to read this newsgroup - Windows Live Mail.
    > >> (If you look at the properties of the post you can see the newsreader listed.)

    > >
    > >
    > > Yes, yes--I know. In all probability you are right. My point was that
    > > his message about what keys to press is *meaningless* if he doesn't
    > > tell us what program he's talking about. He perhaps thinks that
    > > because he's using Windows Live Mail to read newsgroups, there are no
    > > other choices and that's what everyone else also uses. It's like
    > > telling someone if he wants to make his television set louder, he
    > > should press the button in the lower left corner of his remote
    > > control.
    > >

    >
    > You obviously forget who you reply to.
    > Who is this ' he ' ?



    Yep, you're right. It was you. Why do you call yourself "the OP"?
    Trying to mislead me?
     

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