Trying Ubuntu Once again!

[BillW50]

Yup, I am trying it again. I don't like Linux too much because I can't
do much with it. Although I keep going back to it for basic computer
needs, i.e. browsing, email, newsgroups, playing audio files, and IM.

I did prefer Xandros over Ubuntu because it was better in the multimedia
department. Although Xandros is really slow to update any of their stuff
and updating through Asus servers are now totally gone. You can't update
Xandros there anymore and there wasn't much in the way of updating there
anyway when they were there. Plus the applications from Xandros are
getting too old, they don't work too well on the Internet anymore.
Pidgin never worked with anything besides AIM and Firefox 2.0 wasn't
working with many websites anymore was the big complains I had.

Ubuntu has newer applications and they actually work. So I guess I am
going to sadly say goodbye to Xandros. And while I don't use IM a lot,
but it bugs me I have webcams and mics on these netbooks and Linux can't
use them for IM. Empathy (IM) comes with Ubuntu claims it does, but I
don't see any evidence of it yet.

Multimedia? Well I think they updated some plugins and they seem to work
a bit better now. I am just playing audio files so far though, so video
might still be not so hot. Although it still hits the CPU hard on this
Celeron 900 (70% actually). As I don't think it can pull off video as
well as audio too. Windows is still much better here among other things
as well.

--
Bill
Asus EEE PC 702G4 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC
Ubuntu 9.10 Netbook Remix Linux

 

[Bill]

In message <i6643f$on7$1@news.eternal-september.org>, BillW50
<BillW50@aol.kom> writes
>Multimedia? Well I think they updated some plugins and they seem to
>work a bit better now.

I'm battling Windows 7 on a couple of audio fronts, and getting pretty
bogged down. In the process, I've installed a 500GB drive in a laptop
with a view to really putting some form of Linux through its paces to do
pro-ish audio.

I've been fiddling with various of the audio editors etc. on a Toshiba
netbook running Ubuntu and managed to get it recording - just - through
my obsolete Tascam US-122 usb audio interface. But it can't really keep
up and it was a tremendous struggle.

Ubuntu seems to me the most likely to be what I go for, simply because
it now seems to have the most popular support. It didn't seem to have
support or available drivers for many other audio interfaces, especially
the firewire ones. Is there any fairly popular and likely to survive
Linux that is worth a decent audio test?
Really the sort of OS that I want doesn't seem to exist at all.
Something that doesn't change, doesn't do too much and lets you plug in
just the tiny apps that you need when you need them. Ubuntu seems good
for working out what hardware it has to interface with, which is good,
but then loads all sorts of stuff I'll never use. By the time I find
what is in it, a new version has come out and I'm being nagged to
update. Move to the new version and the "off" button seems to have moved
to a different place on the screen and swapped with another similar
looking button.
In a previous attempt to sort something like this out I made some
inroads into Slackware. I learnt a lot about Linux (now mainly
forgotten) and also how life was too short to waste on slow, tedious
progress.

I'll be interested to read reports of how you get on, and any
suggestions of alternatives to Ubuntu. I'll be sticking to XP for email
as I can't find a decent email and news client for Win 7 or Ubuntu. I
also run Thunderbird on this news machine, but it's awful.
--
Bill

 

[BillW50]

Bill wrote on Tue, 7 Sep 2010 231:22 +0100:
> In message <i6643f$on7$1@news.eternal-september.org>, BillW50
> <BillW50@aol.kom> writes
>> Multimedia? Well I think they updated some plugins and they seem to
>> work a bit better now.
>
> I'm battling Windows 7 on a couple of audio fronts, and getting pretty
> bogged down. In the process, I've installed a 500GB drive in a laptop
> with a view to really putting some form of Linux through its paces to do
> pro-ish audio.

Oh good luck with with one! I ran Windows 7 on three machines for a
year. The interface was cute, but it didn't like anything else.

> I've been fiddling with various of the audio editors etc. on a Toshiba
> netbook running Ubuntu and managed to get it recording - just - through
> my obsolete Tascam US-122 usb audio interface. But it can't really keep
> up and it was a tremendous struggle.

I haven't found a Linux distro that works well with multimedia. If you
want to do multimedia with Linux, you need tons of CPU power. Linux is
really nice on RAM usage though. Although if you can't do much, it
doesn't mean much does it?

> Ubuntu seems to me the most likely to be what I go for, simply because
> it now seems to have the most popular support. It didn't seem to have
> support or available drivers for many other audio interfaces, especially
> the firewire ones. Is there any fairly popular and likely to survive
> Linux that is worth a decent audio test

I don't think so. Although I am sure some will disagree.

> Really the sort of OS that I want doesn't seem to exist at all.

Windows XP works really well for me in this regard as well as everything
else too.

> Something that doesn't change, doesn't do too much and lets you plug in
> just the tiny apps that you need when you need them. Ubuntu seems good
> for working out what hardware it has to interface with, which is good,
> but then loads all sorts of stuff I'll never use. By the time I find
> what is in it, a new version has come out and I'm being nagged to
> update. Move to the new version and the "off" button seems to have moved
> to a different place on the screen and swapped with another similar
> looking button.

Welcome to Linux!

> In a previous attempt to sort something like this out I made some
> inroads into Slackware. I learnt a lot about Linux (now mainly
> forgotten) and also how life was too short to waste on slow, tedious
> progress.

Yeah well there is that carrot on the string to chase.

> I'll be interested to read reports of how you get on, and any
> suggestions of alternatives to Ubuntu. I'll be sticking to XP for email
> as I can't find a decent email and news client for Win 7 or Ubuntu. I
> also run Thunderbird on this news machine, but it's awful.

Yeah I hate Thunderbird too! But I use it because I understand it. I
don't know, I love Windows XP the best out of all of the OS that has
been out there so far. As it does everything I ever wanted. Sadly I am
afraid it will not continue forever.

--
Bill
Asus EEE PC 702G4 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC
Ubuntu 9.10 Netbook Remix Linux

 

[Bill]

In message <i66hkc$bj5$1@news.eternal-september.org>, BillW50
<BillW50@aol.kom> writes
>Bill wrote on Tue, 7 Sep 2010 231:22 +0100:
>> In message <i6643f$on7$1@news.eternal-september.org>, BillW50
>><BillW50@aol.kom> writes
>>> Multimedia? Well I think they updated some plugins and they seem to
>>>work a bit better now.
>> I'm battling Windows 7 on a couple of audio fronts, and getting
>>pretty bogged down. In the process, I've installed a 500GB drive in a
>>laptop with a view to really putting some form of Linux through its
>>paces to do pro-ish audio.
>
>Oh good luck with with one! I ran Windows 7 on three machines for a
>year. The interface was cute, but it didn't like anything else.
>
Most of Windows 7 seems OK, just like Vista but with a few operations
taking less time. But I hate these "virtual directories" and libraries
etc. I just want to have Caudio or Daudio for audio files and manage
them myself from there.

>> I've been fiddling with various of the audio editors etc. on a
>>Toshiba netbook running Ubuntu and managed to get it recording - just
>>- through my obsolete Tascam US-122 usb audio interface. But it can't
>>really keep up and it was a tremendous struggle.
>
>I haven't found a Linux distro that works well with multimedia. If you
>want to do multimedia with Linux, you need tons of CPU power. Linux is
>really nice on RAM usage though. Although if you can't do much, it
>doesn't mean much does it?
>
>> Ubuntu seems to me the most likely to be what I go for, simply
>>because it now seems to have the most popular support. It didn't seem
>>to have support or available drivers for many other audio interfaces,
>>especially the firewire ones. Is there any fairly popular and likely
>>to survive Linux that is worth a decent audio test
>
>I don't think so. Although I am sure some will disagree.
>
>> Really the sort of OS that I want doesn't seem to exist at all.
>
>Windows XP works really well for me in this regard as well as
>everything else too.

That's my problem. I actually liked Windows 2000 best, although there
were a few things it wouldn't do and XP became the minimum under which
some of the audio apps would run.

> I don't know, I love Windows XP the best out of all of the OS that has
>been out there so far. As it does everything I ever wanted. Sadly I am
>afraid it will not continue forever.

I will give Ubuntu a go on the Acer notebook when I have time. Other
distros that I tried in the past seemed to be better documented about
where files were and where the setup files for various things were kept.
The machine I just got and that I'm battling Win7 on actually came with
Mint Linux. That just looked like Ubuntu but again with things in
different places within the UI.

As I say, Bill, I'm really interested in how you get on.
>

--
Bill

 

[~misfit~]

Somewhere on teh intarwebs BillW50 wrote:


[snip off-topic subject matter]

Wrong newsgroup. This is comp.sys.laptops.
--
Shaun.

"Wave upon wave of demented avengers march cheerfully out of obscurity into
the dream"

 

[BillW50]

In news:i69kg8$ncq$1@news.eternal-september.org,
~misfit~ typed on Thu, 9 Sep 2010 152:20 +1200:
> Somewhere on teh intarwebs BillW50 wrote:
>
> [snip off-topic subject matter]
>
> Wrong newsgroup. This is comp.sys.laptops.

Yes we know Shaun (the most disagreeable man living in NZ). LOL And
strangely enough, we laptop users use operating systems too.

--
Bill
Asus EEE PC 701G4 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC
Windows XP SP2 (no room for Windows Updates)

 

[Bob Villa]

OT: Trying Ubuntu Once again!

On Sep 8, 102 pm, "~misfit~" <sore_n_ha...@nospamyahoo.com.au>
wrote:
> Somewhere on teh intarwebs BillW50 wrote:
>
> [snip off-topic subject matter]
>
> Wrong newsgroup. This is comp.sys.laptops.
> --
> Shaun.
>
> "Wave upon wave of demented avengers march cheerfully out of obscurity into
> the dream"

 

[BillW50]

In newsYa3b2CYK9hMFwVi@itsound.demon.co.uk,
Bill typed on Wed, 8 Sep 2010 19:14:48 +0100:
> Most of Windows 7 seems OK, just like Vista but with a few operations
> taking less time. But I hate these "virtual directories" and libraries
> etc. I just want to have Caudio or Daudio for audio files and
> manage them myself from there.

Yes I too really dislike those virtual folders too. And I too like to
organize my own folders and files and I don't like Windows doing it for
me. And it sure makes a big mess out of things, doesn't it?

> That's my problem. I actually liked Windows 2000 best, although there
> were a few things it wouldn't do and XP became the minimum under which
> some of the audio apps would run.

Oh yes! This was my favorite as well up to 2005. When more and more
applications required at least XP minimum. And many nowadays require
XPSP2 minimum.

> I will give Ubuntu a go on the Acer notebook when I have time. Other
> distros that I tried in the past seemed to be better documented about
> where files were and where the setup files for various things were
> kept. The machine I just got and that I'm battling Win7 on actually
> came with Mint Linux. That just looked like Ubuntu but again with
> things in different places within the UI.

I am curious how that works out.

> As I say, Bill, I'm really interested in how you get on.

Huh?

--
Bill
Asus EEE PC 701G4 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC
Windows XP SP2 (no room for Windows Updates)

 

[~misfit~]

Re: OT: Trying Ubuntu Once again!

Somewhere on teh intarwebs Bob Villa wrote:
> On Sep 8, 102 pm, "~misfit~" <sore_n_ha...@nospamyahoo.com.au>
> wrote:
>> Somewhere on teh intarwebs BillW50 wrote:
>>
>> [snip off-topic subject matter]
>>
>> Wrong newsgroup. This is comp.sys.laptops.

Thank you Bob, for inserting the "OT". It's good to see a man who knows
about usenet protocol.
--
Shaun.

"Every finger in the room is pointing at me, I wanna spit in their faces,
then I get afraid of what that could bring"

 

[Bob Villa]

Re: OT: Trying Ubuntu Once again!

On Sep 9, 5:52 pm, "~misfit~" <sore_n_ha...@nospamyahoo.com.au> wrote:
> Somewhere on teh intarwebs Bob Villa wrote:
>
> > On Sep 8, 102 pm, "~misfit~" <sore_n_ha...@nospamyahoo.com.au>
> > wrote:
> >> Somewhere on teh intarwebs BillW50 wrote:
>
> >> [snip off-topic subject matter]
>
> >> Wrong newsgroup. This is comp.sys.laptops.
>
> Thank you Bob, for inserting the "OT". It's good to see a man who knows
> about usenet protocol.
> --
> Shaun.
>
> "Every finger in the room is pointing at me, I wanna spit in their faces,
> then I get afraid of what that could bring"

I tried...but was not successful. 8 (

 

[~misfit~]

Somewhere on teh intarwebs BillW50 wrote:
> In news:i69kg8$ncq$1@news.eternal-september.org,
> ~misfit~ typed on Thu, 9 Sep 2010 152:20 +1200:
>> Somewhere on teh intarwebs BillW50 wrote:
>>
>> [snip off-topic subject matter]
>>
>> Wrong newsgroup. This is comp.sys.laptops.
>
> Yes we know Shaun

Ahh, the use of the pronoun plural, a sign of either royalty, someone who
has multiple personality disorder or simply someone who wants his own
personal opinion or post to seem to have more weight than it actually has.

> (the most disagreeable man living in NZ).

Oh, I doubt that very much. Then again I s'pose you don't get out much yeah?
Ping me here next time you're in New Zealand (because you must have been
here before right or you'd be talking out of your arse) and I'll call you at
wherever you're staying and introduce you to some much more disagreeable
men.

> LOL And
> strangely enough, we laptop users use operating systems too.

Strangely enough I dare say that most of us laptop users eat bread too.
However I don't post about my experiences with breadmaking here, I post that
info to alt.bread.recipes. I would appreciate it if you'd show the same
courtesy.

I read through your posts (and the replies) and not one bit of it was
laptop-specific. Ergo it doesn't belong here.
--
Shaun.

"Every finger in the room is pointing at me, I wanna spit in their faces,
then I get afraid of what that could bring"

 

[BillW50]

In news:i6bp7k$3ag$1@news.eternal-september.org,
~misfit~ typed on Fri, 10 Sep 2010 11:05:20 +1200:
> Somewhere on teh intarwebs BillW50 wrote:
>> In news:i69kg8$ncq$1@news.eternal-september.org,
>> ~misfit~ typed on Thu, 9 Sep 2010 152:20 +1200:
>>> Somewhere on teh intarwebs BillW50 wrote:
>>>
>>> [snip off-topic subject matter]
>>>
>>> Wrong newsgroup. This is comp.sys.laptops.
>>
>> Yes we know Shaun
>
> Ahh, the use of the pronoun plural, a sign of either royalty, someone
> who has multiple personality disorder or simply someone who wants his
> own personal opinion or post to seem to have more weight than it
> actually has.

Nope, not even close! Oops! Three strikes and you're out (American
baseball humor)! It was attempt to be sarcastic while being very kind
about it.

>> (the most disagreeable man living in NZ).
>
> Oh, I doubt that very much. Then again I s'pose you don't get out
> much yeah? Ping me here next time you're in New Zealand (because you
> must have been here before right or you'd be talking out of your
> arse) and I'll call you at wherever you're staying and introduce you
> to some much more disagreeable men.

Hehehe. I was really tempted to add AFAIK to that comment and I came so
close to doing so. The only thing that stopped me is because I figured
everybody would think it was a given anyway. So what was the point? As
neither I nor even *you* could possibly know every male in NZ. Although
if you want me to conceded to anything. I freely admit I am sure you
know more male NZs than I do. As it would be very strange if you didn't.


>> LOL And strangely enough, we laptop users use operating systems too.
>
> Strangely enough I dare say that most of us laptop users eat bread
> too. However I don't post about my experiences with breadmaking here,
> I post that info to alt.bread.recipes. I would appreciate it if you'd
> show the same courtesy.

Shaun, Shaun, Shaun! Laptops doesn't run off of bread (at least not
yet). But in almost all cases, laptops needs an OS. And without an OS,
almost all laptops would be totally useless. And OS are so very
important to a laptop. Bread is meaningless here.

SIDE NOTE: I won't completely say *all* laptops needs an OS (although it
is almost completely true). As there are some rare cases where a program
(or some would call an application) that requires no OS at all. Yes this
works, but usually useful if this is the only thing that will be
running. And these rare programs almost never plays well with an OS (in
a virtual machine would be your best bet).

> I read through your posts (and the replies) and not one bit of it was
> laptop-specific. Ergo it doesn't belong here.

Lots of problems, solutions, advice, and opinions here are not just
laptop specific. As much of it here could apply to desktop computers
too. Not 100% of course, but a huge amount of it does. And what was I
talking about? The netbook version of Ubuntu. And what is a netbook?
Well a netbook is basically a laptop minus some sort of optical drive
(although not all laptops have optical drives either). Oh yeah, it is
usually in a smaller package with a smaller keyboard and screen too.
Yeah, very little difference really when you think about it. And does
the netbook version of Ubuntu run on a laptop too? Yeah sure it does.
The only thing special about the netbook Ubuntu version is that it
specializes in smaller resolution screens. Does it work on higher
resolution screens? Yeah sure it does. I do it all of the time on a
large external monitor.

So as I was getting too, yes you are the most disagreeable NZ man that I
know of. All of the others I have known have been super nice, helpful,
and really friendly. And this includes not only males, but females as
well. So I know they are *not* all like you!

P.S. I am sure you would want to argue otherwise.

--
Bill
Asus EEE PC 701G4 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC
Windows XP SP2 (no room for Windows Updates)

 

[AJL]

"~misfit~" <sore_n_happy@nospamyahoo.com.au> wrote:

>Somewhere on teh intarwebs BillW50 wrote:
>> In news:i69kg8$ncq$1@news.eternal-september.org,
>> ~misfit~ typed on Thu, 9 Sep 2010 152:20 +1200:
>>> Somewhere on teh intarwebs BillW50 wrote:
>>>
>>> [snip off-topic subject matter]
>>>
>>> Wrong newsgroup. This is comp.sys.laptops.
>>
>> Yes we know Shaun
>
>Ahh, the use of the pronoun plural, a sign of either royalty, someone who
>has multiple personality disorder or simply someone who wants his own
>personal opinion or post to seem to have more weight than it actually has.
>
>> (the most disagreeable man living in NZ).
>
>Oh, I doubt that very much. Then again I s'pose you don't get out much yeah?
>Ping me here next time you're in New Zealand (because you must have been
>here before right or you'd be talking out of your arse) and I'll call you at
>wherever you're staying and introduce you to some much more disagreeable
>men.
>
>> LOL And
>> strangely enough, we laptop users use operating systems too.
>
>Strangely enough I dare say that most of us laptop users eat bread too.
>However I don't post about my experiences with breadmaking here, I post that
>info to alt.bread.recipes. I would appreciate it if you'd show the same
>courtesy.
>


>I read through your posts (and the replies) and not one bit of it was
>laptop-specific. Ergo it doesn't belong here.

We (not pronoun plural, I have a mouse in my pocket) read through your
post and found that not one bit was laptop specific. Pot, kettle,
black...

 

[Bob Villa]

On Sep 9, 7:48 pm, "BillW50" <Bill...@aol.kom> wrote:
> Innews:i6bp7k$3ag$1@news.eternal-september.org,
> ~misfit~ typed on Fri, 10 Sep 2010 11:05:20 +1200:
>
> > Somewhere on teh intarwebs BillW50 wrote:
> >> Innews:i69kg8$ncq$1@news.eternal-september.org,
> >> ~misfit~ typed on Thu, 9 Sep 2010 152:20 +1200:
> >>> Somewhere on teh intarwebs BillW50 wrote:
>
> >>> [snip off-topic subject matter]
>
> >>> Wrong newsgroup. This is comp.sys.laptops.
>
> >> Yes we know Shaun
>
> > Ahh, the use of the pronoun plural, a sign of either royalty, someone
> > who has multiple personality disorder or simply someone who wants his
> > own personal opinion or post to seem to have more weight than it
> > actually has.
>
> Nope, not even close! Oops! Three strikes and you're out (American
> baseball humor)! It was attempt to be sarcastic while being very kind
> about it.
>
> >> (the most disagreeable man living in NZ).
>
> > Oh, I doubt that very much. Then again I s'pose you don't get out
> > much yeah? Ping me here next time you're in New Zealand (because you
> > must have been here before right or you'd be talking out of your
> > arse) and I'll call you at wherever you're staying and introduce you
> > to some much more disagreeable men.
>
> Hehehe. I was really tempted to add AFAIK to that comment and I came so
> close to doing so. The only thing that stopped me is because I figured
> everybody would think it was a given anyway. So what was the point? As
> neither I nor even *you* could possibly know every male in NZ. Although
> if you want me to conceded to anything. I freely admit I am sure you
> know more male NZs than I do. As it would be very strange if you didn't.
>
>
> >> LOL And strangely enough, we laptop users use operating systems too.
>
> > Strangely enough I dare say that most of us laptop users eat bread
> > too. However I don't post about my experiences with breadmaking here,
> > I post that info to alt.bread.recipes. I would appreciate it if you'd
> > show the same courtesy.
>
> Shaun, Shaun, Shaun! Laptops doesn't run off of bread (at least not
> yet). But in almost all cases, laptops needs an OS. And without an OS,
> almost all laptops would be totally useless. And OS are so very
> important to a laptop. Bread is meaningless here.
>
> SIDE NOTE: I won't completely say *all* laptops needs an OS (although it
> is almost completely true). As there are some rare cases where a program
> (or some would call an application) that requires no OS at all. Yes this
> works, but usually useful if this is the only thing that will be
> running. And these rare programs almost never plays well with an OS (in
> a virtual machine would be your best bet).
>
> > I read through your posts (and the replies) and not one bit of it was
> > laptop-specific. Ergo it doesn't belong here.
>
> Lots of problems, solutions, advice, and opinions here are not just
> laptop specific. As much of it here could apply to desktop computers
> too. Not 100% of course, but a huge amount of it does. And what was I
> talking about? The netbook version of Ubuntu. And what is a netbook?
> Well a netbook is basically a laptop minus some sort of optical drive
> (although not all laptops have optical drives either). Oh yeah, it is
> usually in a smaller package with a smaller keyboard and screen too.
> Yeah, very little difference really when you think about it. And does
> the netbook version of Ubuntu run on a laptop too? Yeah sure it does.
> The only thing special about the netbook Ubuntu version is that it
> specializes in smaller resolution screens. Does it work on higher
> resolution screens? Yeah sure it does. I do it all of the time on a
> large external monitor.
>
> So as I was getting too, yes you are the most disagreeable NZ man that I
> know of. All of the others I have known have been super nice, helpful,
> and really friendly. And this includes not only males, but females as
> well. So I know they are *not* all like you!
>
> P.S. I am sure you would want to argue otherwise.
>
> --
> Bill
> Asus EEE PC 701G4 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC
> Windows XP SP2 (no room for Windows Updates)

Bill, why don't you just start a blog for other anal retentive types
where you can convene, converse, and hobnob?

 

[~misfit~]

Somewhere on teh intarwebs BillW50 wrote:
> In news:i69kg8$ncq$1@news.eternal-september.org,
> ~misfit~ typed on Thu, 9 Sep 2010 152:20 +1200:
>> Somewhere on teh intarwebs BillW50 wrote:
>>
>> [snip off-topic subject matter]
>>
>> Wrong newsgroup. This is comp.sys.laptops.
>
> Yes we know Shaun

Ahh, the use of the pronoun plural, a sign of either royalty, someone who
has multiple personality disorder or simply someone who wants his own
personal opinion or post to seem to have more weight than it actually has.

> (the most disagreeable man living in NZ).

Oh, I doubt that very much. Then again I s'pose you don't get out much yeah?
Ping me here next time you're in New Zealand (because you must have been
here before right or you'd be talking out of your arse) and I'll call you at
wherever you're staying and introduce you to some much more disagreeable
men.

> LOL And
> strangely enough, we laptop users use operating systems too.

Strangely enough I dare say that most of us laptop users eat bread too.
However I don't post about my experiences with breadmaking here, I post that
info to alt.bread.recipes. I would appreciate it if you'd show the same
courtesy.

I read through your posts (and the replies) and not one bit of it was
laptop-specific. Ergo it doesn't belong here.
--
Shaun.

"Every finger in the room is pointing at me, I wanna spit in their faces,
then I get afraid of what that could bring"

 

[~misfit~]

Somewhere on teh intarwebs Bob Villa wrote:
> On Sep 9, 7:48 pm, "BillW50" <Bill...@aol.kom> wrote:
>> Innews:i6bp7k$3ag$1@news.eternal-september.org,
>> ~misfit~ typed on Fri, 10 Sep 2010 11:05:20 +1200:
>>
>>> Somewhere on teh intarwebs BillW50 wrote:
>>>> Innews:i69kg8$ncq$1@news.eternal-september.org,
>>>> ~misfit~ typed on Thu, 9 Sep 2010 152:20 +1200:
>>>>> Somewhere on teh intarwebs BillW50 wrote:
>>
>>>>> [snip off-topic subject matter]
>>
>>>>> Wrong newsgroup. This is comp.sys.laptops.
>>
>>>> Yes we know Shaun
>>
>>> Ahh, the use of the pronoun plural, a sign of either royalty,
>>> someone who has multiple personality disorder or simply someone who
>>> wants his own personal opinion or post to seem to have more weight
>>> than it actually has.
>>
>> Nope, not even close! Oops! Three strikes and you're out (American
>> baseball humor)! It was attempt to be sarcastic while being very kind
>> about it.
>>
>>>> (the most disagreeable man living in NZ).
>>
>>> Oh, I doubt that very much. Then again I s'pose you don't get out
>>> much yeah? Ping me here next time you're in New Zealand (because you
>>> must have been here before right or you'd be talking out of your
>>> arse) and I'll call you at wherever you're staying and introduce you
>>> to some much more disagreeable men.
>>
>> Hehehe. I was really tempted to add AFAIK to that comment and I came
>> so close to doing so. The only thing that stopped me is because I
>> figured everybody would think it was a given anyway. So what was the
>> point? As neither I nor even *you* could possibly know every male in
>> NZ. Although if you want me to conceded to anything. I freely admit
>> I am sure you know more male NZs than I do. As it would be very
>> strange if you didn't.
>>
>>>> LOL And strangely enough, we laptop users use operating systems
>>>> too.
>>
>>> Strangely enough I dare say that most of us laptop users eat bread
>>> too. However I don't post about my experiences with breadmaking
>>> here, I post that info to alt.bread.recipes. I would appreciate it
>>> if you'd show the same courtesy.
>>
>> Shaun, Shaun, Shaun! Laptops doesn't run off of bread (at least not
>> yet). But in almost all cases, laptops needs an OS. And without an
>> OS, almost all laptops would be totally useless. And OS are so very
>> important to a laptop. Bread is meaningless here.
>>
>> SIDE NOTE: I won't completely say *all* laptops needs an OS
>> (although it is almost completely true). As there are some rare
>> cases where a program (or some would call an application) that
>> requires no OS at all. Yes this works, but usually useful if this is
>> the only thing that will be running. And these rare programs almost
>> never plays well with an OS (in a virtual machine would be your best
>> bet).
>>
>>> I read through your posts (and the replies) and not one bit of it
>>> was laptop-specific. Ergo it doesn't belong here.
>>
>> Lots of problems, solutions, advice, and opinions here are not just
>> laptop specific. As much of it here could apply to desktop computers
>> too. Not 100% of course, but a huge amount of it does. And what was I
>> talking about? The netbook version of Ubuntu. And what is a netbook?
>> Well a netbook is basically a laptop minus some sort of optical drive
>> (although not all laptops have optical drives either). Oh yeah, it is
>> usually in a smaller package with a smaller keyboard and screen too.
>> Yeah, very little difference really when you think about it. And does
>> the netbook version of Ubuntu run on a laptop too? Yeah sure it does.
>> The only thing special about the netbook Ubuntu version is that it
>> specializes in smaller resolution screens. Does it work on higher
>> resolution screens? Yeah sure it does. I do it all of the time on a
>> large external monitor.
>>
>> So as I was getting too, yes you are the most disagreeable NZ man
>> that I know of. All of the others I have known have been super nice,
>> helpful, and really friendly. And this includes not only males, but
>> females as well. So I know they are *not* all like you!
>>
>> P.S. I am sure you would want to argue otherwise.
>>
>> --
>> Bill
>> Asus EEE PC 701G4 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC
>> Windows XP SP2 (no room for Windows Updates)
>
> Bill, why don't you just start a blog for other anal retentive types
> where you can convene, converse, and hobnob?

Excellent suggestion!
--
Shaun.

"Is the nightmare black or are the windows painted? Will they come again
next week, can my mind really take it?"

 

[BillW50]

On 9/13/2010 87 AM, ~misfit~ wrote:
>> Bill, why don't you just start a blog for other anal retentive types
>> where you can convene, converse, and hobnob?
>
> Excellent suggestion!

Which would be a total waste of time. And you two agreeing comes to no
big surprise. As *both* of you are well known for your heavy use of
personal attacks.

No what the rest of us are interested in, are people needing help with
their portable computers and those offering free advice to help them.
And that is what this place is for. Sometimes you two forget that.

--
Bill
Thunderbird Portable 3.0 (20091130)

 

[John Doue]

On 9/13/2010 11:17 AM, BillW50 wrote:
> On 9/13/2010 87 AM, ~misfit~ wrote:
>>> Bill, why don't you just start a blog for other anal retentive types
>>> where you can convene, converse, and hobnob?
>>
>> Excellent suggestion!
>
> Which would be a total waste of time. And you two agreeing comes to no
> big surprise. As *both* of you are well known for your heavy use of
> personal attacks.
>
> No what the rest of us are interested in, are people needing help with
> their portable computers and those offering free advice to help them.
> And that is what this place is for. Sometimes you two forget that.
>

Those exchanges between you guys are very entertaining, taken with a lot
of salt. I wonder what kind of traffic this NG would carry if you did
not argue once in a while. I must say, the bottom of the issue does not
usually mean much for me, but I believe that over the years, we have
formed a way too small group of addicted users and this is stimulating.

Still, I believe that if we could meet around a fully packed crate of
beer (never tasted NZ beer), all of you arguing guys would be ashamed of
yourselves and would promptly show you are good at drinking beer as the
song goes.

But would anyone tell me why Linux distros (although a Windows guys, I
finally understood what a distro means ... so kind of device used for
draft beer?) are named with such impossible to pronounce names? Suse I
can pronounce, but it might be offensive for French ears ...!

Keep on the excitement
--
John Doue