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the c:\windows\repair\system file is missing?

Discussion in 'Windows XP' started by Chris, Jun 22, 2010.

  1. Chris

    Chris Flightless Bird

    I am trying to fix a computer that has a missing system file. I tried to
    copy it from repair\system but its missing from there?
     
  2. Ken Blake, MVP

    Ken Blake, MVP Flightless Bird

    On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 16:38:15 -0700, Chris
    <Chris@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:


    > I am trying to fix a computer that has a missing system file. I tried to
    > copy it from repair\system but its missing from there?




    What is the name of the file that is missing? Exactly how do you know
    that it's missing? What problems are caused by the file being missing?



    --
    Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
    Please Reply to the Newsgroup
     
  3. PA Bear [MS MVP]

    PA Bear [MS MVP] Flightless Bird

    a repair install is not going to resolve the rootkit infection

    Chris wrote:
    > I am trying to fix a computer that has a missing system file. I tried to
    > copy it from repair\system but its missing from there?
     
  4. Jose

    Jose Flightless Bird

    On Jun 22, 7:38 pm, Chris <Ch...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
    > I am trying to fix a computer that has a missing system file.  I tried to
    > copy it from repair\system but its missing from there?


    What is the symptom of the problem you are trying to solve?

    Do you mean XP indicated with some message that the file was missing
    or you looked in the c:/windows\repair folder and it it not there?

    Did you try to copy the file and the copy did not work?

    Did you actually look in the c:/windows\repair folder?

    If you actually look in the c:/windows\repair folder, what files do
    you see?
     
  5. Chris

    Chris Flightless Bird

    the name of the file is called system. its in the folder
    C;\windows\system32\config and the back up was supposed to be located in
    c:/windows\repair but its not there. The system is unbootable and i found
    out the file is missing from ubcd4win.

    "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:

    > On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 16:38:15 -0700, Chris
    > <Chris@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
    >
    >
    > > I am trying to fix a computer that has a missing system file. I tried to
    > > copy it from repair\system but its missing from there?

    >
    >
    >
    > What is the name of the file that is missing? Exactly how do you know
    > that it's missing? What problems are caused by the file being missing?
    >
    >
    >
    > --
    > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
    > Please Reply to the Newsgroup
    > .
    >
     
  6. Rey Santos

    Rey Santos Flightless Bird

    See this if it could help: (see Note below)

    How to recover from a corrupted registry that prevents Windows XP from
    starting
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307545

    When you try to start or restart your Windows XP-based computer, you may
    receive one of the following error messages:
    Windows XP could not start because the following file is missing or corrupt:
    \WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\CONFIG\SYSTEM

    Note:
    When you have finished the procedure, a registry is created that you can use
    to start Windows XP. This registry was created and saved during the initial
    setup of Windows XP. Therefore any changes and settings that occurred after
    the Setup program was finished are lost.

    --
    Rey


    "Chris" wrote:

    > the name of the file is called system. its in the folder
    > C;\windows\system32\config and the back up was supposed to be located in
    > c:/windows\repair but its not there. The system is unbootable and i found
    > out the file is missing from ubcd4win.
    >
    > "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:
    >
    > > On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 16:38:15 -0700, Chris
    > > <Chris@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
    > >
    > >
    > > > I am trying to fix a computer that has a missing system file. I tried to
    > > > copy it from repair\system but its missing from there?

    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > What is the name of the file that is missing? Exactly how do you know
    > > that it's missing? What problems are caused by the file being missing?
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > --
    > > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
    > > Please Reply to the Newsgroup
    > > .
    > >
     
  7. Jose

    Jose Flightless Bird

    On Jun 22, 10:26 pm, Chris <Ch...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
    > the name of the file is called system. its in the folder
    > C;\windows\system32\config and the back up was supposed to be located in
    > c:/windows\repair but its not there.  The system is unbootable and i found
    > out the file is missing from ubcd4win.
    >
    >
    >
    > "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:
    > > On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 16:38:15 -0700, Chris
    > > <Ch...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

    >
    > > > I am trying to fix a computer that has a missing system file.  I tried to
    > > > copy it from repair\system but its missing from there?

    >
    > > What is the name of the file that is missing? Exactly how do you know
    > > that it's missing? What problems are caused by the file being missing?

    >
    > > --
    > > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
    > > Please Reply to the Newsgroup
    > > .


    What file did you determine was missing that started you on this
    adventure and is it really missing or is XP just telling you it can't
    find it.

    If you actually look in the c:/windows\repair folder, what files to
    you see?

    The files in there are not "backups" they are the original copies from
    when XP was installed. What files are in that folder (third time
    asking). Sometimes they look a little strange, but they should be
    there in some form unless they have been deleted.

    Did you make the UBCD4win CD yourself? If yes, then you must have a
    bootable XP installation CD from which you could boot the Recovery
    Console.

    Those files are not supposed to be on the UBCD4win - they are supposed
    to be on your afflicted hard disk.

    From the XP Recovery Console (still don't know what the original
    problem is) you should run chkdsk /r to verify the integrit of the
    file system first - before you start trying to copy files around.

    If you are trying to fix problems like this:

    Windows XP could not start because the following file is missing or
    corrupt: \WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\CONFIG\SYSTEM

    You always need to start with chkdsk /r first - that may fix you right
    up. If you are sure your file system mis okay, then you may give
    KB307545 a whirl and it works perfectly if you follow the directions
    exactly, but you just don't start there.

    KB307545 is written to follow if you really do have a corrupted
    registry, but you don't know that. All you know is your system won't
    boot. That is just the best error message XP can come up with when
    the file system is unreadable (I can't find this file) and in need of
    repair - you just don't start right in with it until the file system
    has been checked out.

    Those kinds of messages usually mean XP just can't find the file
    usually after a power interruption has corrupted the files system, and
    a chkdsk /r needs to be run first. There may really be something
    wrong with the registry, but usually there is not (unless you
    corrupted it yourself).

    You can do all these things from the XP Recovery Console using XP
    commands.

    I don't remember that UBCD4win has an equivalent of the Windows NTFS
    chkdsk /r command (someone will tell me though).

    Was the issue preceded by a power interruption, aborted restart, or
    improper shutdown?
    (this includes plug pulling and power buttons)

    These can cause corruption in the file system which must be fixed
    before you do anything else.

    If any of those events have occurred (or even if they have not
    occurred), you should verify the integrity of your file system before
    doing anything else (especially "trying" things).

    It makes zero sense to start trying to copy files around on a hard
    disk that has a corrupted file system so this must be fixed first
    using the XP chkdsk program, and fixing that may resolve your issue
    entirely.

    Use the XP Recovery Console to verify the file system on your HDD and
    correct any problems and then try to boot your system - this may be
    all you need to do. Or, you are welcome to just start trying things
    that might work.

    Boot into the Windows Recovery Console using a bootable XP
    installation CD, or create on a bootable XP Recovery Console CD.

    This is not the same as any recovery disks that might have come a
    store bought system. If you are not sure what kind of bootable CD you
    have, make a bootable XP Recovery Console CD and be sure.

    You can create a bootable XP Recovery Console CD when no XP media is
    available by following the directions in this link:

    http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/topic276527.html

    After booting into the Recovery Console, you should be in this folder:

    C:/WINDOWS

    For each of your hard disk partitions, you should then run:

    chkdsk /r

    For example, from the Recovery Console prompt, enter:

    chkdsk c: /r

    Let chkdsk finish and correct any problems it might find. It may take
    a long time to complete or appear to be 'stuck'. Be patient. If the
    HDD light is still flashing, it is doing something. Keep an eye on
    the percentage amount to be sure it is still making progress. It may
    even appear to go backwards sometimes.

    The chkdsk /r needs to complete without any errors, so you may need to
    run it multiple times until it does.

    Remove the CD and type 'exit' to leave the RC and restart the
    computer.
     
  8. PA Bear [MS MVP]

    PA Bear [MS MVP] Flightless Bird

    cf. http://www.ubcd4win.com/

    UBCD4Windows Support forums
    http://ubcd4win.com/forum/index.php?showforum=38


    Chris wrote:
    > the name of the file is called system. its in the folder
    > C;\windows\system32\config and the back up was supposed to be located in
    > c:/windows\repair but its not there. The system is unbootable and i found
    > out the file is missing from ubcd4win.
    >
    >> What is the name of the file that is missing? Exactly how do you know
    >> that it's missing? What problems are caused by the file being missing?
    >>
    >>> I am trying to fix a computer that has a missing system file. I tried
    >>> to
    >>> copy it from repair\system but its missing from there?
     
  9. Jose

    Jose Flightless Bird

    On Jun 22, 10:26 pm, Chris <Ch...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
    > the name of the file is called system. its in the folder
    > C;\windows\system32\config and the back up was supposed to be located in
    > c:/windows\repair but its not there.  The system is unbootable and i found
    > out the file is missing from ubcd4win.
    >
    >
    >
    > "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:
    > > On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 16:38:15 -0700, Chris
    > > <Ch...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

    >
    > > > I am trying to fix a computer that has a missing system file.  I tried to
    > > > copy it from repair\system but its missing from there?

    >
    > > What is the name of the file that is missing? Exactly how do you know
    > > that it's missing? What problems are caused by the file being missing?

    >
    > > --
    > > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
    > > Please Reply to the Newsgroup
    > > .


    So there are no files in the c:/windows\repair folder (that folder is
    empty)?

    Did you run chkdsk /r from the Recovery Console yet?
     

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