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Discussion in 'Windows XP' started by shellyfDELETE@hotmail.com, May 31, 2010.

  1. shellyfDELETE@hotmail.com

    shellyfDELETE@hotmail.com Flightless Bird

    Thanks to all who have helped me over the years with Win98, XP, and
    now 7. Much appreciated.
    And, I hope that I assisted via a few of my posts.
    Microsoft forums are a step backward compared to this means of
    communication, in my humble opinion.
    ciao
     
  2. VanguardLH

    VanguardLH Flightless Bird

    shellyf wrote:

    > Microsoft forums are a step backward compared to this means of
    > communication, in my humble opinion.


    Did you even ask your NSP (EasyNews) if they will be dropping the
    microsoft.* newsgroups? They probably arent. Giganews isn't dropping
    the microsoft.* newsgroups. Google Groups probably won't, either. My
    NSP (Albasani) won't and I'm told that Eternal-September won't. So if
    your current NSP drops the microsoft.* newsgroups, go find an NNTP
    server that still does (some are free).

    Microsoft decided to leave Usenet. Microsoft is not Usenet.

    What is Usenet:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newsgroups
    http://www.masonicinfo.com/newsgroups.htm
    http://www.mcfedries.com/Ramblings/usenet-primer.asp
     
  3. PA Bear [MS MVP]

    PA Bear [MS MVP] Flightless Bird

    Bye-bye, see ya (and ju.c)

    shellyfDELETE@hotmail.com wrote:
    > Thanks to all who have helped me over the years with Win98, XP, and
    > now 7. Much appreciated.
    > And, I hope that I assisted via a few of my posts.
    > Microsoft forums are a step backward compared to this means of
    > communication, in my humble opinion.
    > ciao
     
  4. Jo-Anne

    Jo-Anne Flightless Bird

    "VanguardLH" <V@nguard.LH> wrote in message
    news:hu1q95$ns7$1@news.albasani.net...
    > shellyf wrote:
    >
    >> Microsoft forums are a step backward compared to this means of
    >> communication, in my humble opinion.

    >
    > Did you even ask your NSP (EasyNews) if they will be dropping the
    > microsoft.* newsgroups? They probably arent. Giganews isn't dropping
    > the microsoft.* newsgroups. Google Groups probably won't, either. My
    > NSP (Albasani) won't and I'm told that Eternal-September won't. So if
    > your current NSP drops the microsoft.* newsgroups, go find an NNTP
    > server that still does (some are free).
    >
    > Microsoft decided to leave Usenet. Microsoft is not Usenet.
    >
    > What is Usenet:
    > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet
    > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newsgroups
    > http://www.masonicinfo.com/newsgroups.htm
    > http://www.mcfedries.com/Ramblings/usenet-primer.asp


    How do determine who or what your NSP is? Is this a question for my ISP?

    Thank you!

    Jo-Anne
     
  5. VanguardLH

    VanguardLH Flightless Bird

    Jo-Anne wrote:

    > How do determine who or what your NSP is? Is this a question for my ISP?


    NSP = Newsgroups Service Provider

    Microsoft operates their free NNTP server which you are already using
    with Outlook Express. So find another NNTP server to which you can
    connect Outlook Express (unless you also decide to use a better
    newsreader). There are lots of NSPs (paid and free), like Giganews,
    Albasani, Eternal-September, and more. Go ask the folks in the
    alt.free.newsservers group. Alas, the Microsoft NNTP server to which
    you connect to submit your post here only carries the microsoft.*
    newsgroups. You'll have to use a different NNTP server to get at the
    non-microsoft newsgroups. Microsoft's server has always had a very
    limited number of newsgroups (i.e., just their own).

    To get started with a free NSP, go visit www.albasani.net or
    www.eternal-september.org to signup for a free posting account.
    Instructions on how to configure your newsreader regarding settings for
    their server are on their web site.
     
  6. Jo-Anne

    Jo-Anne Flightless Bird

    "VanguardLH" <V@nguard.LH> wrote in message
    news:hu2g5v$nmb$1@news.albasani.net...
    > Jo-Anne wrote:
    >
    >> How do determine who or what your NSP is? Is this a question for my ISP?

    >
    > NSP = Newsgroups Service Provider
    >
    > Microsoft operates their free NNTP server which you are already using
    > with Outlook Express. So find another NNTP server to which you can
    > connect Outlook Express (unless you also decide to use a better
    > newsreader). There are lots of NSPs (paid and free), like Giganews,
    > Albasani, Eternal-September, and more. Go ask the folks in the
    > alt.free.newsservers group. Alas, the Microsoft NNTP server to which
    > you connect to submit your post here only carries the microsoft.*
    > newsgroups. You'll have to use a different NNTP server to get at the
    > non-microsoft newsgroups. Microsoft's server has always had a very
    > limited number of newsgroups (i.e., just their own).
    >
    > To get started with a free NSP, go visit www.albasani.net or
    > www.eternal-september.org to signup for a free posting account.
    > Instructions on how to configure your newsreader regarding settings for
    > their server are on their web site.


    Thank you, Vanguard! I must have signed up at some point with another NSP
    because I also have a couple Corel newsgroups for WordPerfect. Maybe I
    signed up with Corel directly?

    Jo-Anne
     
  7. VanguardLH

    VanguardLH Flightless Bird

    Jo-Anne wrote:

    > Thank you, Vanguard! I must have signed up at some point with another NSP
    > because I also have a couple Corel newsgroups for WordPerfect. Maybe I
    > signed up with Corel directly?


    There are lots of "private" NSPs; i.e., they carry only their own
    newsgroups and do not peer to anyone one. GRC (Steve Gibson of Spinrite
    fame), Microsoft privatenews.microsoft.com, and the mozilla.* newsgroups
    (many NSPs do not peer the Mozilla groups so you connect to Mozilla's
    NNTP server to get at them) are examples of private newsgroups. There
    is no mandate that forces anyone operating an NNTP server to peer it to
    anyone else's NNTP server. In fact, many companies use their own
    internal-use only NNTP server for communications amongst their
    employees.
     
  8. Jo-Anne

    Jo-Anne Flightless Bird

    "VanguardLH" <V@nguard.LH> wrote in message
    news:hu589d$vvl$1@news.albasani.net...
    > Jo-Anne wrote:
    >
    >> Thank you, Vanguard! I must have signed up at some point with another NSP
    >> because I also have a couple Corel newsgroups for WordPerfect. Maybe I
    >> signed up with Corel directly?

    >
    > There are lots of "private" NSPs; i.e., they carry only their own
    > newsgroups and do not peer to anyone one. GRC (Steve Gibson of Spinrite
    > fame), Microsoft privatenews.microsoft.com, and the mozilla.* newsgroups
    > (many NSPs do not peer the Mozilla groups so you connect to Mozilla's
    > NNTP server to get at them) are examples of private newsgroups. There
    > is no mandate that forces anyone operating an NNTP server to peer it to
    > anyone else's NNTP server. In fact, many companies use their own
    > internal-use only NNTP server for communications amongst their
    > employees.


    Thank you again, Vanguard! I wish all the forums I belong to were available
    as newsgroups instead. I'd follow them more seriously and learn more.

    Jo-Anne
     

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