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Sudden problem 7zip can not overwrite

Discussion in 'Windows 7' started by Roland Mösl, Oct 15, 2010.

  1. Roland Mösl

    Roland Mösl Flightless Bird

    Windows Home Premium 64 Bit

    Drive D: originaly like I got the notebook

    My software worked, but there are suddenly
    strange problems.

    My CMS calls 7zip to compress a file.

    7zip can suddenly not overwrite
    an existing *.gz file.

    7zip can only create new files.

    Maybe changes with todays update?

    --
    Roland Mösl - PEGE - http://www.pege.org
    Planetary Engineering Group Earth
     
  2. Dave \Crash\ Dummy

    Dave \Crash\ Dummy Flightless Bird

    Roland Mösl wrote:
    > Windows Home Premium 64 Bit
    >
    > Drive D: originaly like I got the notebook
    >
    > My software worked, but there are suddenly
    > strange problems.
    >
    > My CMS calls 7zip to compress a file.
    >
    > 7zip can suddenly not overwrite
    > an existing *.gz file.
    >
    > 7zip can only create new files.
    >
    > Maybe changes with todays update?


    When were the originals created? Can you overwrite new GZ files when you
    create them?

    --
    Crash

    "The future ain't what it used to be."
    ~ Yogi Berra ~
     
  3. Dave \Crash\ Dummy

    Dave \Crash\ Dummy Flightless Bird

    Dave "Crash" Dummy wrote:
    > Roland Mösl wrote:
    >> Windows Home Premium 64 Bit
    >>
    >> Drive D: originaly like I got the notebook
    >>
    >> My software worked, but there are suddenly strange problems.
    >>
    >> My CMS calls 7zip to compress a file.
    >>
    >> 7zip can suddenly not overwrite an existing *.gz file.
    >>
    >> 7zip can only create new files.
    >>
    >> Maybe changes with todays update?

    >
    > When were the originals created? Can you overwrite new GZ files when
    > you create them?


    Although I have 7-Zip, I have never created a *.gz archive before, so I
    thought I'd give it a try. The first thing I learned is that I can't
    create a *.gz archive directly from a collection of files. I first have
    to create a *.tar archive, then process that into a *.tar.gz file. Don't
    ask me why. I'm a *.zip kinda guy. I've only seen *.tar.gz files
    secondhand, when I downloaded them and had to unpack them. I've never
    seen the "gz" without the "tar." Anyway, having managed to create a
    *.tar.gz archive, I repeated the process with a new collection of files
    and overwrote my first archive with no problem. So I don't know why you
    can't.

    I am running Windows 7 Ultimate x64.

    --
    Crash

    I always thought Mensa was a Japanese import.
     
  4. Parko

    Parko Flightless Bird

    On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 16:29:07 -0400, Dave \"Crash\" Dummy scrawled:

    > Dave "Crash" Dummy wrote:
    >> Roland Mösl wrote:
    >>> Windows Home Premium 64 Bit
    >>>
    >>> Drive D: originaly like I got the notebook
    >>>
    >>> My software worked, but there are suddenly strange problems.
    >>>
    >>> My CMS calls 7zip to compress a file.
    >>>
    >>> 7zip can suddenly not overwrite an existing *.gz file.
    >>>
    >>> 7zip can only create new files.
    >>>
    >>> Maybe changes with todays update?

    >>
    >> When were the originals created? Can you overwrite new GZ files when
    >> you create them?

    >
    > Although I have 7-Zip, I have never created a *.gz archive before, so I
    > thought I'd give it a try. The first thing I learned is that I can't
    > create a *.gz archive directly from a collection of files. I first have
    > to create a *.tar archive, then process that into a *.tar.gz file. Don't
    > ask me why. I'm a *.zip kinda guy. I've only seen *.tar.gz files
    > secondhand, when I downloaded them and had to unpack them. I've never
    > seen the "gz" without the "tar." Anyway, having managed to create a
    > *.tar.gz archive, I repeated the process with a new collection of files
    > and overwrote my first archive with no problem. So I don't know why you
    > can't.
    >
    > I am running Windows 7 Ultimate x64.


    Your useage is correct. 7zip is a gui for some other programs. I've been
    using it for years on windows.
    tar: http://www.gnu.org/software/tar/manual/tar.html#SEC1
    gzip: http://www.gnu.org/software/gzip/manual/gzip.html

    To the OP: try running 7zip as administrator.

    --
    Computer says: "No"
     
  5. Roland Mösl

    Roland Mösl Flightless Bird

    On 2010-10-15 23:26, Parko wrote:
    > On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 16:29:07 -0400, Dave \"Crash\" Dummy scrawled:
    >
    >> Dave "Crash" Dummy wrote:
    >>> Roland Mösl wrote:
    >>>> Windows Home Premium 64 Bit
    >>>>
    >>>> Drive D: originaly like I got the notebook
    >>>>
    >>>> My software worked, but there are suddenly strange problems.
    >>>>
    >>>> My CMS calls 7zip to compress a file.
    >>>>
    >>>> 7zip can suddenly not overwrite an existing *.gz file.
    >>>>
    >>>> 7zip can only create new files.
    >>>>
    >>>> Maybe changes with todays update?
    >>>
    >>> When were the originals created? Can you overwrite new GZ files when
    >>> you create them?

    >>
    >> Although I have 7-Zip, I have never created a *.gz archive before, so I
    >> thought I'd give it a try. The first thing I learned is that I can't
    >> create a *.gz archive directly from a collection of files. I first have
    >> to create a *.tar archive, then process that into a *.tar.gz file. Don't
    >> ask me why. I'm a *.zip kinda guy. I've only seen *.tar.gz files
    >> secondhand, when I downloaded them and had to unpack them. I've never
    >> seen the "gz" without the "tar." Anyway, having managed to create a
    >> *.tar.gz archive, I repeated the process with a new collection of files
    >> and overwrote my first archive with no problem. So I don't know why you
    >> can't.
    >>
    >> I am running Windows 7 Ultimate x64.

    >
    > Your useage is correct. 7zip is a gui for some other programs. I've been
    > using it for years on windows.
    > tar: http://www.gnu.org/software/tar/manual/tar.html#SEC1
    > gzip: http://www.gnu.org/software/gzip/manual/gzip.html
    >
    > To the OP: try running 7zip as administrator.


    I solved the problem by a delete of the *.gz file
    before using 7zip

    --
    Roland Mösl - PEGE - http://www.pege.org
    Planetary Engineering Group Earth
     
  6. Tim Slattery

    Tim Slattery Flightless Bird

    "Dave \"Crash\" Dummy" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    >Although I have 7-Zip, I have never created a *.gz archive before, so I
    >thought I'd give it a try. The first thing I learned is that I can't
    >create a *.gz archive directly from a collection of files. I first have
    >to create a *.tar archive, then process that into a *.tar.gz file. Don't
    >ask me why. I'm a *.zip kinda guy.


    GZip has Unix roots, and this is the way things are done in the Unix
    world. The tar program (tape archive) has existed forever. It strings
    many files together into a single 'archive" file. That made it
    convenient to dump a whole bunch of files to tape for backup. So then
    if you compress a tar file, you get a whole bunch of files squeezed
    into one large file. Not exactly like a zip file, IMHO not as
    convenient, but something that Unix folks understand and are very
    comfortable with.

    --
    Tim Slattery
    Slattery_T@bls.gov
    http://members.cox.net/slatteryt
     
  7. R. C. White

    R. C. White Flightless Bird

    ?Hi, Tim.

    Thanks for that explanation. I've always wondered where "tar" came from.
    I've never used it, but I see it sometimes.

    How about "rar" files? Is that a variation of "tar"?

    The last tape I used with a computer was on my original TRS-80 back in 1977.
    ;^} And I've never used Unix or Linux or any other *nix . I've used PKZip
    ever since I paid Phil Katz ($10?) for a perpetual license about 25 years
    ago. But I haven't used any such compression files much in about 15 years.
    Hardly seems worth doing on the humongous HDDs we use nowadays.

    RC
    --
    R. C. White, CPA
    San Marcos, TX
    rc@grandecom.net
    Microsoft Windows MVP (2002-9/30/10)
    Windows Live Mail Version 2011 (Build 15.4.3502.0922) in Win7 Ultimate x64
    SP1 beta


    "Tim Slattery" wrote in message
    news:74hob6te2usd7fe8a2k5r4rljbccgfg7n8@4ax.com...

    "Dave \"Crash\" Dummy" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    >Although I have 7-Zip, I have never created a *.gz archive before, so I
    >thought I'd give it a try. The first thing I learned is that I can't
    >create a *.gz archive directly from a collection of files. I first have
    >to create a *.tar archive, then process that into a *.tar.gz file. Don't
    >ask me why. I'm a *.zip kinda guy.


    GZip has Unix roots, and this is the way things are done in the Unix
    world. The tar program (tape archive) has existed forever. It strings
    many files together into a single 'archive" file. That made it
    convenient to dump a whole bunch of files to tape for backup. So then
    if you compress a tar file, you get a whole bunch of files squeezed
    into one large file. Not exactly like a zip file, IMHO not as
    convenient, but something that Unix folks understand and are very
    comfortable with.

    --
    Tim Slattery
     
  8. Tim Slattery

    Tim Slattery Flightless Bird

    "R. C. White" <rc@grandecom.net> wrote:

    >?Hi, Tim.
    >
    >Thanks for that explanation. I've always wondered where "tar" came from.
    >I've never used it, but I see it sometimes.
    >
    >How about "rar" files? Is that a variation of "tar"?


    According to Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAR). RAR stands
    for Roshal ARchive. It was originally developed by somebody named
    Eugene Roshal.

    --
    Tim Slattery
    Slattery_T@bls.gov
    http://members.cox.net/slatteryt
     
  9. Gene E. Bloch

    Gene E. Bloch Flightless Bird

    On Mon, 18 Oct 2010 09:09:28 -0500, R. C. White wrote:

    > ?Hi, Tim.
    >
    > Thanks for that explanation. I've always wondered where "tar" came from.
    > I've never used it, but I see it sometimes.
    >
    > How about "rar" files? Is that a variation of "tar"?
    >
    > The last tape I used with a computer was on my original TRS-80 back in 1977.
    > ;^} And I've never used Unix or Linux or any other *nix . I've used PKZip
    > ever since I paid Phil Katz ($10?) for a perpetual license about 25 years
    > ago. But I haven't used any such compression files much in about 15 years.
    > Hardly seems worth doing on the humongous HDDs we use nowadays.


    I have two uses for zipping. One is actually unzipping, such as when
    someone sends me a zip or I download an application that is sent in zip
    form, or other similar things (like source code for a book on Java or
    some such).

    The other is when I put a handful of files (sharing photos with friends,
    for instance) on a free site that only lets me upload one file.

    I don't even make encrypted zips anymore, I just use TrueCrypt :)

    <SNIP>
    --
    Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)
     

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