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SP3 or not to 3?

Discussion in 'Windows XP' started by FlaBill, Jan 18, 2010.

  1. FlaBill

    FlaBill Flightless Bird

    Windows Updater consistently urges install of SP3 and I recall some
    warnings NOT to add that upgrade to my particular system. It is:

    OS Name Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
    Version 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Build 2600
    OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
    System Name DELLDESKTOP
    System Manufacturer Dell Computer Corporation
    System Model Dimension 2400
    System Type X86-based PC
    Processor x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 7 GenuineIntel ~2193 Mhz
    BIOS Version/Date Dell Computer Corporation A00, 5/23/2003
    SMBIOS Version 2.3
    Windows Directory C:/WINDOWS
    System Directory C:/WINDOWS\system32
    Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume2
    Locale United States
    Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.
    040803-2158)"
    Time Zone Eastern Standard Time
    Total Physical Memory 768.00 MB
    Available Physical Memory 317.42 MB
    Total Virtual Memory 2.00 GB
    Available Virtual Memory 1.96 GB
    Page File Space 1.08 GB
    Page File C:/pagefile.sys

    What is the recommended advice in this matter? thanks,
    Bill
     
  2. Twayne

    Twayne Flightless Bird

    In news:5cd2147d-d05b-4bcb-ad35-01be9eddb54d@k35g2000yqb.googlegroups.com,
    FlaBill <wfwpics@gmail.com> typed:
    > Windows Updater consistently urges install of SP3 and I recall some
    > warnings NOT to add that upgrade to my particular system. It is:
    >
    > OS Name Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
    > Version 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Build 2600
    > OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
    > System Name DELLDESKTOP
    > System Manufacturer Dell Computer Corporation
    > System Model Dimension 2400
    > System Type X86-based PC
    > Processor x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 7 GenuineIntel ~2193 Mhz
    > BIOS Version/Date Dell Computer Corporation A00, 5/23/2003
    > SMBIOS Version 2.3
    > Windows Directory C:/WINDOWS
    > System Directory C:/WINDOWS\system32
    > Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume2
    > Locale United States
    > Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.
    > 040803-2158)"
    > Time Zone Eastern Standard Time
    > Total Physical Memory 768.00 MB
    > Available Physical Memory 317.42 MB
    > Total Virtual Memory 2.00 GB
    > Available Virtual Memory 1.96 GB
    > Page File Space 1.08 GB
    > Page File C:/pagefile.sys
    >
    > What is the recommended advice in this matter? thanks,
    > Bill


    My recommendation is simply to go to support.microsoft.com and READ the
    articles that explain the prerequisites and how to install SP3. They're
    accurate and well written. It'll go smoothly for you. Even if you had one of
    the problem machines, the install is still possible and works. In fact, I'm
    running a Dell right here with SP3 - not a single sign of a problem
    occurred.
     
  3. Ragnar Midtskogen

    Ragnar Midtskogen Flightless Bird

    I had a problem with that, on a Dell XPS desktop, machine would not boot.
    Had to reformat and reinstall Windows.

    Ragnar

    "FlaBill" <wfwpics@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:5cd2147d-d05b-4bcb-ad35-01be9eddb54d@k35g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
    > Windows Updater consistently urges install of SP3 and I recall some
    > warnings NOT to add that upgrade to my particular system. It is:
    >
    > OS Name Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
    > Version 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Build 2600
    > OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
    > System Name DELLDESKTOP
    > System Manufacturer Dell Computer Corporation
    > System Model Dimension 2400
    > System Type X86-based PC
    > Processor x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 7 GenuineIntel ~2193 Mhz
    > BIOS Version/Date Dell Computer Corporation A00, 5/23/2003
    > SMBIOS Version 2.3
    > Windows Directory C:/WINDOWS
    > System Directory C:/WINDOWS\system32
    > Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume2
    > Locale United States
    > Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.
    > 040803-2158)"
    > Time Zone Eastern Standard Time
    > Total Physical Memory 768.00 MB
    > Available Physical Memory 317.42 MB
    > Total Virtual Memory 2.00 GB
    > Available Virtual Memory 1.96 GB
    > Page File Space 1.08 GB
    > Page File C:/pagefile.sys
    >
    > What is the recommended advice in this matter? thanks,
    > Bill
     
  4. Bruce Hagen

    Bruce Hagen Flightless Bird

    "FlaBill" <wfwpics@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:5cd2147d-d05b-4bcb-ad35-01be9eddb54d@k35g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
    > Windows Updater consistently urges install of SP3 and I recall some
    > warnings NOT to add that upgrade to my particular system. It is:
    >
    > OS Name Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
    > Version 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Build 2600
    > OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
    > System Name DELLDESKTOP
    > System Manufacturer Dell Computer Corporation
    > System Model Dimension 2400
    > System Type X86-based PC
    > Processor x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 7 GenuineIntel ~2193 Mhz
    > BIOS Version/Date Dell Computer Corporation A00, 5/23/2003
    > SMBIOS Version 2.3
    > Windows Directory C:/WINDOWS
    > System Directory C:/WINDOWS\system32
    > Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume2
    > Locale United States
    > Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.
    > 040803-2158)"
    > Time Zone Eastern Standard Time
    > Total Physical Memory 768.00 MB
    > Available Physical Memory 317.42 MB
    > Total Virtual Memory 2.00 GB
    > Available Virtual Memory 1.96 GB
    > Page File Space 1.08 GB
    > Page File C:/pagefile.sys
    >
    > What is the recommended advice in this matter? thanks,
    > Bill



    There were a few bugs for a few programs, but AFAIK, that has long been
    worked out. If you stay with SP2, you will no longer get any updates
    including security updates after July of this year. With SP3 installed,
    you will continue to get updated until at least April, 2014. (Unless the
    world does end on 12/21/2012). <g>

    Steps to take before you install Windows XP Service Pack 3:
    http://support.microsoft.com:80/kb/950717

    WinXP SP3 - Read all prerequisites for a successful installation
    http://msmvps.com/blogs/harrywaldro...requisites-for-a-successful-installation.aspx

    Release Notes for Windows XP Service Pack 3
    http://download.microsoft.com/download/c/d/8/cd8cc719-7d5a-40d3-a802-e4057aa8c631/relnotes.htm

    Download Windows XP Service Pack 3 here:
    http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...A8-5E76-401F-BE08-1E1555D4F3D4&displaylang=en

    Free unlimited installation and compatibility support for Service Pack 3:
    http://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?ln=en-us&prid=11273&gpr
    --
    Bruce Hagen
    MS-MVP [Mail]
    Imperial Beach, CA
     
  5. db

    db Flightless Bird

    if you choose to update
    to sp3,

    be sure to copy your user
    data, email boxes, pics,etc
    onto a different location.

    also, use a program like
    "siw" so that you can
    ascertain all your product
    keys of the software you
    have installed.


    --
    db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>
    DatabaseBen, Retired Professional
    - Systems Analyst
    - Database Developer
    - Accountancy
    - Veteran of the Armed Forces
    - @Hotmail.com
    - nntp Postologist
    ~ "share the nirvana" - dbZen

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    >
    >


    "FlaBill" <wfwpics@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:5cd2147d-d05b-4bcb-ad35-01be9eddb54d@k35g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
    > Windows Updater consistently urges install of SP3 and I recall some
    > warnings NOT to add that upgrade to my particular system. It is:
    >
    > OS Name Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
    > Version 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Build 2600
    > OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
    > System Name DELLDESKTOP
    > System Manufacturer Dell Computer Corporation
    > System Model Dimension 2400
    > System Type X86-based PC
    > Processor x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 7 GenuineIntel ~2193 Mhz
    > BIOS Version/Date Dell Computer Corporation A00, 5/23/2003
    > SMBIOS Version 2.3
    > Windows Directory C:/WINDOWS
    > System Directory C:/WINDOWS\system32
    > Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume2
    > Locale United States
    > Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.
    > 040803-2158)"
    > Time Zone Eastern Standard Time
    > Total Physical Memory 768.00 MB
    > Available Physical Memory 317.42 MB
    > Total Virtual Memory 2.00 GB
    > Available Virtual Memory 1.96 GB
    > Page File Space 1.08 GB
    > Page File C:/pagefile.sys
    >
    > What is the recommended advice in this matter? thanks,
    > Bill
     
  6. SK

    SK Flightless Bird

    I upgraded and regretted it. My Dell machine would not boot even in safe
    mode after SP3. Had to take it to my local pc repair shop and spend $150 to
    get it working again. If SP2 is working why upgrade? I certainly am not
    going to try upgrading again.

    "FlaBill" <wfwpics@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:5cd2147d-d05b-4bcb-ad35-01be9eddb54d@k35g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
    > Windows Updater consistently urges install of SP3 and I recall some
    > warnings NOT to add that upgrade to my particular system. It is:
    >
    > OS Name Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
    > Version 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Build 2600
    > OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
    > System Name DELLDESKTOP
    > System Manufacturer Dell Computer Corporation
    > System Model Dimension 2400
    > System Type X86-based PC
    > Processor x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 7 GenuineIntel ~2193 Mhz
    > BIOS Version/Date Dell Computer Corporation A00, 5/23/2003
    > SMBIOS Version 2.3
    > Windows Directory C:/WINDOWS
    > System Directory C:/WINDOWS\system32
    > Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume2
    > Locale United States
    > Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.
    > 040803-2158)"
    > Time Zone Eastern Standard Time
    > Total Physical Memory 768.00 MB
    > Available Physical Memory 317.42 MB
    > Total Virtual Memory 2.00 GB
    > Available Virtual Memory 1.96 GB
    > Page File Space 1.08 GB
    > Page File C:/pagefile.sys
    >
    > What is the recommended advice in this matter? thanks,
    > Bill
     
  7. occam

    occam Flightless Bird

    I upgraded with difficulty, but the results were worth it. Faster Win XP
    Pro, and few added features.

    Make sure your anti-virus, anti-malware progs are disabled (or
    uninstalled) before you attempt it.

    Good luck

    On 18/01/2010 16:59, FlaBill wrote:
    > Windows Updater consistently urges install of SP3 and I recall some
    > warnings NOT to add that upgrade to my particular system. It is:
    >
    > OS Name Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
    > Version 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Build 2600
    > OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
    > System Name DELLDESKTOP
    > System Manufacturer Dell Computer Corporation
    > System Model Dimension 2400
    > System Type X86-based PC
    > Processor x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 7 GenuineIntel ~2193 Mhz
    > BIOS Version/Date Dell Computer Corporation A00, 5/23/2003
    > SMBIOS Version 2.3
    > Windows Directory C:/WINDOWS
    > System Directory C:/WINDOWS\system32
    > Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume2
    > Locale United States
    > Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.
    > 040803-2158)"
    > Time Zone Eastern Standard Time
    > Total Physical Memory 768.00 MB
    > Available Physical Memory 317.42 MB
    > Total Virtual Memory 2.00 GB
    > Available Virtual Memory 1.96 GB
    > Page File Space 1.08 GB
    > Page File C:/pagefile.sys
    >
    > What is the recommended advice in this matter? thanks,
    > Bill
     
  8. Jerry Ed

    Jerry Ed Flightless Bird

    The only problem I had was solved by following the instructions under
    "ADVANCED TROUBLESHOOTING",
    Method 1: Reset the registry and the file permissions at
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/949377

    JE




    "FlaBill" <wfwpics@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:5cd2147d-d05b-4bcb-ad35-01be9eddb54d@k35g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
    > Windows Updater consistently urges install of SP3 and I recall some
    > warnings NOT to add that upgrade to my particular system. It is:
    >
    > OS Name Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
    > Version 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Build 2600
    > OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
    > System Name DELLDESKTOP
    > System Manufacturer Dell Computer Corporation
    > System Model Dimension 2400
    > System Type X86-based PC
    > Processor x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 7 GenuineIntel ~2193 Mhz
    > BIOS Version/Date Dell Computer Corporation A00, 5/23/2003
    > SMBIOS Version 2.3
    > Windows Directory C:/WINDOWS
    > System Directory C:/WINDOWS\system32
    > Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume2
    > Locale United States
    > Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.
    > 040803-2158)"
    > Time Zone Eastern Standard Time
    > Total Physical Memory 768.00 MB
    > Available Physical Memory 317.42 MB
    > Total Virtual Memory 2.00 GB
    > Available Virtual Memory 1.96 GB
    > Page File Space 1.08 GB
    > Page File C:/pagefile.sys
    >
    > What is the recommended advice in this matter? thanks,
    > Bill
     
  9. Anteaus

    Anteaus Flightless Bird

    Not seen a problem with SP3 on a Dimension 2400. I would be inclined to
    download the 'network' version which has everything in one file. Safer than
    having a download-and-install fail partway.

    Though, it is best to backup the OS. Drive Image XML is one (free) option,
    though to restore you need a copy of WinPE.

    "occam" wrote:

    > I upgraded with difficulty, but the results were worth it. Faster Win XP
    > Pro, and few added features.
    >
    > Make sure your anti-virus, anti-malware progs are disabled (or
    > uninstalled) before you attempt it.
    >
    > Good luck
    >
    > On 18/01/2010 16:59, FlaBill wrote:
    > > Windows Updater consistently urges install of SP3 and I recall some
    > > warnings NOT to add that upgrade to my particular system. It is:
    > >
    > > OS Name Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
    > > Version 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Build 2600
    > > OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
    > > System Name DELLDESKTOP
    > > System Manufacturer Dell Computer Corporation
    > > System Model Dimension 2400
    > > System Type X86-based PC
    > > Processor x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 7 GenuineIntel ~2193 Mhz
    > > BIOS Version/Date Dell Computer Corporation A00, 5/23/2003
    > > SMBIOS Version 2.3
    > > Windows Directory C:/WINDOWS
    > > System Directory C:/WINDOWS\system32
    > > Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume2
    > > Locale United States
    > > Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.
    > > 040803-2158)"
    > > Time Zone Eastern Standard Time
    > > Total Physical Memory 768.00 MB
    > > Available Physical Memory 317.42 MB
    > > Total Virtual Memory 2.00 GB
    > > Available Virtual Memory 1.96 GB
    > > Page File Space 1.08 GB
    > > Page File C:/pagefile.sys
    > >
    > > What is the recommended advice in this matter? thanks,
    > > Bill

    > .
    >
     
  10. Twayne

    Twayne Flightless Bird

    In news:-Og$lmlFmKHA.3128@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl,
    Ragnar Midtskogen <ragnarm@optonline.net> typed:
    > I had a problem with that, on a Dell XPS desktop, machine would not
    > boot. Had to reformat and reinstall Windows.


    I doubt you "had to" reinstall, and it appears you probably failed to check
    on the requirements for installing SP3. There is nothign about your machine
    that would preclude SP3. Just read the docs at MS and make sure you have
    enough disk space available per the article/s. I think there are three of
    them total but I don't have the URLs handy.

    HTH,

    Twayne



    >
    > Ragnar
    >
    > "FlaBill" <wfwpics@gmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:5cd2147d-d05b-4bcb-ad35-01be9eddb54d@k35g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
    >> Windows Updater consistently urges install of SP3 and I recall some
    >> warnings NOT to add that upgrade to my particular system. It is:
    >>
    >> OS Name Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
    >> Version 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Build 2600
    >> OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
    >> System Name DELLDESKTOP
    >> System Manufacturer Dell Computer Corporation
    >> System Model Dimension 2400
    >> System Type X86-based PC
    >> Processor x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 7 GenuineIntel ~2193 Mhz
    >> BIOS Version/Date Dell Computer Corporation A00, 5/23/2003
    >> SMBIOS Version 2.3
    >> Windows Directory C:/WINDOWS
    >> System Directory C:/WINDOWS\system32
    >> Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume2
    >> Locale United States
    >> Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.
    >> 040803-2158)"
    >> Time Zone Eastern Standard Time
    >> Total Physical Memory 768.00 MB
    >> Available Physical Memory 317.42 MB
    >> Total Virtual Memory 2.00 GB
    >> Available Virtual Memory 1.96 GB
    >> Page File Space 1.08 GB
    >> Page File C:/pagefile.sys
    >>
    >> What is the recommended advice in this matter? thanks,
    >> Bill
     
  11. Twayne

    Twayne Flightless Bird

    In news:uJMhcBGmKHA.6096@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl,
    SK <nospam@aol.com> typed:
    > I upgraded and regretted it. My Dell machine would not boot even in
    > safe mode after SP3. Had to take it to my local pc repair shop and
    > spend $150 to get it working again. If SP2 is working why upgrade? I
    > certainly am not going to try upgrading again.


    If you spent all that money, you should have had them install SP3 too. With
    SP2 your updates will apparently stop mid summer so you'll be left out from
    that point on while those with SP3 will get them until 2014 IIRC.

    I have a Gateway desktop and laptop: SP3 installed fine on both of them.
    I'm typing this on a Dell, which also had no problems with SP3. Had you
    bothered to look at the how to articles at MS, it would have worked for you,
    too. SP3 is best installed by downloading it separately as opposed to
    letting auto update in stall it.

    HTH,

    Twayne



    >
    > "FlaBill" <wfwpics@gmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:5cd2147d-d05b-4bcb-ad35-01be9eddb54d@k35g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
    >> Windows Updater consistently urges install of SP3 and I recall some
    >> warnings NOT to add that upgrade to my particular system. It is:
    >>
    >> OS Name Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
    >> Version 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Build 2600
    >> OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
    >> System Name DELLDESKTOP
    >> System Manufacturer Dell Computer Corporation
    >> System Model Dimension 2400
    >> System Type X86-based PC
    >> Processor x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 7 GenuineIntel ~2193 Mhz
    >> BIOS Version/Date Dell Computer Corporation A00, 5/23/2003
    >> SMBIOS Version 2.3
    >> Windows Directory C:/WINDOWS
    >> System Directory C:/WINDOWS\system32
    >> Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume2
    >> Locale United States
    >> Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.
    >> 040803-2158)"
    >> Time Zone Eastern Standard Time
    >> Total Physical Memory 768.00 MB
    >> Available Physical Memory 317.42 MB
    >> Total Virtual Memory 2.00 GB
    >> Available Virtual Memory 1.96 GB
    >> Page File Space 1.08 GB
    >> Page File C:/pagefile.sys
    >>
    >> What is the recommended advice in this matter? thanks,
    >> Bill
     
  12. Daave

    Daave Flightless Bird

    I agree 100%.

    BTW, DriveImageXML is an excellent *free* way to image one's hard drive.

    Anteaus wrote:
    > Not seen a problem with SP3 on a Dimension 2400. I would be inclined
    > to download the 'network' version which has everything in one file.
    > Safer than having a download-and-install fail partway.
    >
    > Though, it is best to backup the OS. Drive Image XML is one (free)
    > option, though to restore you need a copy of WinPE.
    >
    > "occam" wrote:
    >
    >> I upgraded with difficulty, but the results were worth it. Faster
    >> Win XP Pro, and few added features.
    >>
    >> Make sure your anti-virus, anti-malware progs are disabled (or
    >> uninstalled) before you attempt it.
    >>
    >> Good luck
    >>
    >> On 18/01/2010 16:59, FlaBill wrote:
    >>> Windows Updater consistently urges install of SP3 and I recall some
    >>> warnings NOT to add that upgrade to my particular system. It is:
    >>>
    >>> OS Name Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
    >>> Version 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Build 2600
    >>> OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
    >>> System Name DELLDESKTOP
    >>> System Manufacturer Dell Computer Corporation
    >>> System Model Dimension 2400
    >>> System Type X86-based PC
    >>> Processor x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 7 GenuineIntel ~2193 Mhz
    >>> BIOS Version/Date Dell Computer Corporation A00, 5/23/2003
    >>> SMBIOS Version 2.3
    >>> Windows Directory C:/WINDOWS
    >>> System Directory C:/WINDOWS\system32
    >>> Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume2
    >>> Locale United States
    >>> Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.
    >>> 040803-2158)"
    >>> Time Zone Eastern Standard Time
    >>> Total Physical Memory 768.00 MB
    >>> Available Physical Memory 317.42 MB
    >>> Total Virtual Memory 2.00 GB
    >>> Available Virtual Memory 1.96 GB
    >>> Page File Space 1.08 GB
    >>> Page File C:/pagefile.sys
    >>>
    >>> What is the recommended advice in this matter? thanks,
    >>> Bill

    >> .
     
  13. Twayne

    Twayne Flightless Bird

    In news:%23ZBLZTGmKHA.4148@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl,
    occam <occam@127.0.0.1> typed:
    > I upgraded with difficulty, but the results were worth it. Faster Win
    > XP Pro, and few added features.
    >
    > Make sure your anti-virus, anti-malware progs are disabled (or
    > uninstalled) before you attempt it.


    And as with any OS operation, back up your important data first.
    And you disconnect from the 'net during the install.


    HTH,

    Twayne



    >
    > Good luck
    >
    > On 18/01/2010 16:59, FlaBill wrote:
    >> Windows Updater consistently urges install of SP3 and I recall some
    >> warnings NOT to add that upgrade to my particular system. It is:
    >>
    >> OS Name Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
    >> Version 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Build 2600
    >> OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
    >> System Name DELLDESKTOP
    >> System Manufacturer Dell Computer Corporation
    >> System Model Dimension 2400
    >> System Type X86-based PC
    >> Processor x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 7 GenuineIntel ~2193 Mhz
    >> BIOS Version/Date Dell Computer Corporation A00, 5/23/2003
    >> SMBIOS Version 2.3
    >> Windows Directory C:/WINDOWS
    >> System Directory C:/WINDOWS\system32
    >> Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume2
    >> Locale United States
    >> Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.
    >> 040803-2158)"
    >> Time Zone Eastern Standard Time
    >> Total Physical Memory 768.00 MB
    >> Available Physical Memory 317.42 MB
    >> Total Virtual Memory 2.00 GB
    >> Available Virtual Memory 1.96 GB
    >> Page File Space 1.08 GB
    >> Page File C:/pagefile.sys
    >>
    >> What is the recommended advice in this matter? thanks,
    >> Bill
     
  14. PA Bear [MS MVP]

    PA Bear [MS MVP] Flightless Bird

    Do you care at all about the security of your computer? Computers running
    WinXP SP2 will NOT be offered any further critical security updates,
    Automatic Updates will cease to function, and Windows Update website will
    not be available after 10 July 2010 until SP3 is installed.

    FlaBill wrote:
    > Windows Updater consistently urges install of SP3 and I recall some
    > warnings NOT to add that upgrade to my particular system. It is:
    >
    > OS Name Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
    > Version 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Build 2600
    > OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
    > System Name DELLDESKTOP
    > System Manufacturer Dell Computer Corporation
    > System Model Dimension 2400
    > System Type X86-based PC
    > Processor x86 Family 15 Model 2 Stepping 7 GenuineIntel ~2193 Mhz
    > BIOS Version/Date Dell Computer Corporation A00, 5/23/2003
    > SMBIOS Version 2.3
    > Windows Directory C:/WINDOWS
    > System Directory C:/WINDOWS\system32
    > Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume2
    > Locale United States
    > Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.
    > 040803-2158)"
    > Time Zone Eastern Standard Time
    > Total Physical Memory 768.00 MB
    > Available Physical Memory 317.42 MB
    > Total Virtual Memory 2.00 GB
    > Available Virtual Memory 1.96 GB
    > Page File Space 1.08 GB
    > Page File C:/pagefile.sys
    >
    > What is the recommended advice in this matter? thanks,
    > Bill
     
  15. ANONYMOUS

    ANONYMOUS Flightless Bird

    "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

    > Do you care at all about the security of your computer?


    This is a joke right? M$ products and computer security have never been
    compatible and you are asking about security on M$ newsgroups? ARE YOU MAD?
     
  16. ANONYMOUS

    ANONYMOUS Flightless Bird

    FlaBill wrote:

    >
    > What is the recommended advice in this matter? thanks,


    The recommended advice is that if you are running old programs that can't
    run on XP with SP3 then clearly you should stay away from it. There is no
    evidence that Microsoft's regular updates and Service Packs have made
    Windows any secure. In fact some would say that the so called security
    patches are a hazard to one's own security! NOW THINK ABOUT THIS.

    What I have done is that I have installed SP3 but decided not to install
    anymore patches since SP3 was released. There are some patches always
    thrust upon you whether you like it or not because M$ thinks it knows
    better.

    hth
     
  17. Chuck

    Chuck Flightless Bird

    Then I hope that you have a very good firewall and anti malware program. You
    will need it!

    "ANONYMOUS" <ANONYMOUS@EXAMPLE.COM> wrote in message
    news:4B54F3B2.D4A7C53B@EXAMPLE.COM...
    >
    >
    > FlaBill wrote:
    >
    >>
    >> What is the recommended advice in this matter? thanks,

    >
    > The recommended advice is that if you are running old programs that can't
    > run on XP with SP3 then clearly you should stay away from it. There is no
    > evidence that Microsoft's regular updates and Service Packs have made
    > Windows any secure. In fact some would say that the so called security
    > patches are a hazard to one's own security! NOW THINK ABOUT THIS.
    >
    > What I have done is that I have installed SP3 but decided not to install
    > anymore patches since SP3 was released. There are some patches always
    > thrust upon you whether you like it or not because M$ thinks it knows
    > better.
    >
    > hth
    >
    >
     
  18. thanatoid

    thanatoid Flightless Bird

    FlaBill <wfwpics@gmail.com> wrote in
    news:5cd2147d-d05b-4bcb-ad35-01be9eddb54d@k35g2000yqb.googlegr
    oups.com:

    > Windows Updater consistently urges install of SP3 and I
    > recall some warnings NOT to add that upgrade to my
    > particular system. It is:


    <SNIP>

    > What is the recommended advice in this matter? thanks,


    (An aside: I have a 2GHZ with 1GB of RAM and I (against ALL
    advice) set up my swap file the 9x way... 300MB max/min... Works
    like a dream, and for TOTALLY mystifying reasons, the XP
    partition (E) runs about 2x faster than the 98SELite partition.
    Now go figure!

    Anyway...

    There is little in SP3 that is REALLY necessary unless some
    program complains. In fact I hears SOME people say it's
    basically a repack of SP2 with some extra special MS
    "features"... if ya get my drift.

    Turn off Windows Update completely, stop using IE/OE (OK, ya
    using Chrome, heard it was insecure when it first came out, but
    there is no stopping Google... I use Opera but I am one of the
    few... the brave... etc...).

    Preferably, use NO MS apps except a VERY TWEAKED OS to avoid
    problems. It has worked for me, VERY well, for about 15 years.


    --
    There are only two classifications of disk drives: Broken drives
    and those that will break later.
    - Chuck Armstrong (This one I think, http://www.cleanreg.com/,
    not the ball player. But who knows. I can't remember where I got
    the quote. But it's true.)
     
  19. thanatoid

    thanatoid Flightless Bird

    ANONYMOUS <ANONYMOUS@EXAMPLE.COM> wrote in
    news:4B54F23F.178EA9AE@EXAMPLE.COM:

    >
    >
    > "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
    >
    >> Do you care at all about the security of your computer?

    >
    > This is a joke right? M$ products and computer security
    > have never been compatible and you are asking about
    > security on M$ newsgroups? ARE YOU MAD?


    I have had this creature plonked for years so I only saw this
    quoted here, but while he may not be "mad", he /is/ to be
    approached with EXTREME caution and a big pot of honey in one
    hand and an automatic high-caliber rifle in the other. Or, just
    securely placed in his pen - the KF.


    --
    There are only two classifications of disk drives: Broken drives
    and those that will break later.
    - Chuck Armstrong (This one I think, http://www.cleanreg.com/,
    not the ball player. But who knows. I can't remember where I got
    the quote. But it's true.)
     
  20. EW

    EW Flightless Bird

    "Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP]" <.@.> wrote in message
    news:9kibl5hsro0m024o5i9vutkepte9l2qemb@4ax.com...
    >>Windows Updater consistently urges install of SP3 and I recall some

    >
    > I would download the full SP3 from Microsoft, reboot and install it in
    > Safe Mode. Has not failed me yet.
    >
    > - Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP]


    Is there any truth to the thinking that SP3 does not install (or work) well
    with AMD chips in PCs? I spent a helluva long time downloading the upgrade
    from the Windows Update site. All worked well until the actual
    installation, which hung up at approximately the 5% point. Luckily I was
    able to "Cancel" the installation and now I'm back to my comfortable SP2.

    I also downloaded the 345 MB file from Microsoft months ago. I was
    intending to install that but am afraid that during installation on my AMD
    processor system I may not be able to "cancel" as easily, and get stuck with
    a very large metal brick.

    Comments? Thanks.

    EW
     

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