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Solution for: Windows XP (NL): Windows Activation Problem + WindowsAutomatic Update Problem = Very S

Discussion in 'Windows XP' started by Skybuck, Aug 14, 2010.

  1. Skybuck

    Skybuck Flightless Bird

    I think I have found a solution on the internet, I will sum it up
    shortly because the description wasn't that accurate, my description
    will be more accurate with additional information about what I think
    might have happened, but first a little story what I wanted to do
    today:

    Today I wanted to try and install Service Pack 3 for Windows XP dutch
    version (NL).

    This was not possible because Windows Automatic Updates was required
    by the Microsoft website to be able to download it and windows
    automatic updates is malfunctioning, so that became a short attempt.

    Then I decided to look into the matter/problem some more... I came
    across what seems to be a solution, the solution is:

    First stop windows automatic updates. (Via Control Panel/
    Administrative Tools/Services)
    (ConfiguratieScherm/Systeembeheer/Services)

    Then open Windows Explorer/My Computer/This Computer and open the
    following folder:

    C:/Windows

    Inside that folder is another yellow folder called:
    SoftwareDistribution.

    Rename this folder to for example SoftwareDistribution(Old).
    (right click to get pop up menu with has the rename option).

    Then start windows automatic updates again.

    Then go to windowsupdate.microsoft.com or simply
    update.microsoft.com

    It will now simply redownload the web controls for automatic updates I
    think... and it will make a new folder called SoftwareDistribution.

    This folder should then only be 5.81 MB big or so...

    The strange thing is that the old folder was 600 MB ?!

    Furthermore the windows update site says that hundreds of patches were
    not/never installed ?!?

    Is it maybe confused... because the old history is now gone (via the
    old folder rename) or were they never installed because of maybe some
    stupid anti virus product or some other problem ?

    For now I guess windows update is simply confused and the patches were
    installed.

    So far so good.

    I will now attempt to skip over these 100's of patches and instead
    install service pack 3 which seems a smart thing to do... the 100's of
    patches are for sp2 only probably... and that's old... installing
    those patches could conflict with sp3 very maybe...

    So first sp3 and then i'll attempt another update to get the latest
    patches for sp3.

    And hopefully then this computer will start to work better again,
    hopefully flash 10.x will install... and hopefully the computer can
    then be considered "saved" and secure/updating again and running
    smoothly again.

    This have to re-install everything would be way too much work for my
    taste ! ;) :) including the backup and restoring of stuff bleh ;)
    Could take days to do such a thing...

    Therefore hopefully this sp3 will do the trick and keep ths computer
    running for a while ;) :)

    (I also contacted microsoft support... but I probably won't be needing
    that... oh well...)

    I'll return with another post to let you know how it went...

    Bye,
    Skybuck.
     
  2. Skybuck

    Skybuck Flightless Bird

    Re: Solution for: Windows XP (NL): Windows Activation Problem +Windows Automatic Update Problem = Very Slow Computer.

    Microsoft: fail.

    2 seconds.

    Bye,
    Skybuck.
     
  3. Skybuck

    Skybuck Flightless Bird

  4. Rob

    Rob Flightless Bird

    Re: Solution for: Windows XP (NL): Windows Activation Problem +Windows Automatic Update Problem = Very Slow Computer.

    Skybuck <skybuck2000@hotmail.com> wrote:
    > Microsoft: fail.
    >
    > 2 seconds.
    >
    > Bye,
    > Skybuck.


    Hou toch eens op met dat geleuter man!
    Je kunt er gewoon niks van. Zelfs dit simpele probleem kun je
    nog niet oplossen. Je bent een NUL.
     
  5. Spook van Rook

    Spook van Rook Flightless Bird

    Re: Solution for: Windows XP (NL): Windows Activation Problem +WindowsAutomatic Update Problem = Very Slow Computer.

    Rob wrote:

    > Skybuck <skybuck2000@hotmail.com> wrote:
    > > Microsoft: fail.
    > >
    > > 2 seconds.
    > >
    > > Bye,
    > > Skybuck.

    >
    > Hou toch eens op met dat geleuter man!
    > Je kunt er gewoon niks van. Zelfs dit simpele probleem kun je
    > nog niet oplossen. Je bent een NUL.


    Is dat niet een beetje erg hard? Je had tenminste toch nog wat achter de
    komma kunnen zetten.

    --
    gruweltjes
    Sp(oo)k van Rook
    Een spook heeft meer antwoorden dan honderd gekken kunnen vragen.
     
  6. Skybuck

    Skybuck Flightless Bird

    Re: Solution for: Windows XP (NL): Windows Activation Problem +Windows Automatic Update Problem = Very Slow Computer.

    Installing service pack 3 for windows xp 32 bit home edition went ok.

    At least this seems to have solved the problem with installing flash
    10.1 which was now successfull, this has been tested via google street
    view which seems to need it.

    I also tried to get the latest patches for service pack 3 but the same
    happens, it just keeps on rattling endlessly...

    It seems a programming inefficiency in the windows update website and
    activex component since access the harddisk to view pictures works
    just fine.
    Ofcourse it could also simply be a programming bug.

    I was kinda surprised to see internet explorer 6.0 is still installed
    on this machine.

    It seems to work rather just fine.

    But I am starting to wonder if the windows automatic update
    inefficiency is perhaps because of javascript inefficiency or maybe
    activex inefficiency.

    It seems unlikely though, since automatic updates can work without the
    webbrowser as far as I know.

    So I don't see how an old webbrowser could be responsible for this
    apperent inefficiency... unless it does somehow use it.

    I don't think so so for now I will not waste my time with installing a
    new webbrowser and running the risk of a memory hog and system hog of
    IE7 or IE8.

    I also spent enough time on this computer for now... I already spent
    3+ hours on it today. I was hoping to be back early to work on my
    apps... but I also wanted to install sp3.. so far I think it has been
    worth it..

    I also cleaned up the PC somewhat... removed many old games which I
    never played anyway anymore like Call of Duty United Offensive lol.
    And battlefield 1943 ?!? Totally forgot it was on it... and some other
    stuff.

    The PC only has 256 MB of ram... it does seem to be a bit short of ram
    because of all the rattling... but when I look at task manager it
    seems to have memory available so doesn't really seem a problem,
    unless windows is being carefull not to run out of memory... but I
    don't think that's how windows works... it will happily use the swap/
    page file if it needs to be...

    So my conclusion for now is that the harddisk is either slow, or it's
    fragmented... and needs a big defragment session... or maybe something
    else is going on... but now the harddisk is quiet... so a rootkit
    seems unlikely...

    It seems nice and clean for now... but just a bit slow. Maybe it's
    because I am used to my DreamPC and double harddisk setup with
    pagefile on other disk... and ofcourse fast IBM deathstar series ;) :)
    euhm darkstar ?!? whatever lol. I totally forgot their names can I
    only remember deathstar lol.

    I was kinda hoping all the clean up might make the PC a bit faster...
    it does seems to be a littttle bit faster.

    The defrag will have to wait for another time... I am tired and going
    home.

    I will disable automatic updates for now because it still seems to be
    malfunctioning.

    Bye,
    Skybuck.
     
  7. Skybuck Flying

    Skybuck Flying Flightless Bird

    Re: Solution for: Windows XP (NL): Windows Activation Problem +Windows Automatic Update Problem = Very Slow Computer.

    "Spook van Rook" <spooksel@xs4all.nl> wrote in message
    news:4C66ED19.DBF9FE21@xs4all.nl...
    > Rob wrote:
    >
    >> Skybuck <skybuck2000@hotmail.com> wrote:
    >> > Microsoft: fail.
    >> >
    >> > 2 seconds.
    >> >
    >> > Bye,
    >> > Skybuck.

    >>
    >> Hou toch eens op met dat geleuter man!
    >> Je kunt er gewoon niks van. Zelfs dit simpele probleem kun je
    >> nog niet oplossen. Je bent een NUL.

    >
    > Is dat niet een beetje erg hard? Je had tenminste toch nog wat achter de
    > komma kunnen zetten.


    Laat Rob lekker spelen in de kleuter tuin... De kleuter staat bij mij allang
    op de banlist HAHAHA Lol.

    Doei,
    Skybuck ;) =D

    P.S.: Je kunt er op wachten op dat soort teringlijers.
     
  8. PA Bear [MS MVP]

    PA Bear [MS MVP] Flightless Bird

    Re: Solution for: Windows XP (NL): Windows Activation Problem + Windows Automatic Update Problem = Very Slow Computer.

    Skybuck wrote:
    <blithersnippage>
    > I will disable automatic updates for now because it still seems to be
    > malfunctioning.


    Uh-huh, Automatic Updates is malfunctioning...
     
  9. Skybuck Flying

    Skybuck Flying Flightless Bird

    Re: Solution for: Windows XP (NL): Windows Activation Problem + Windows Automatic Update Problem = Very Slow Computer.

    "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:%236gavf$OLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    > Skybuck wrote:
    > <blithersnippage>
    >> I will disable automatic updates for now because it still seems to be
    >> malfunctioning.

    >
    > Uh-huh, Automatic Updates is malfunctioning...


    So does that mean you don't take it seriously ?

    Bye,
    Skybuck.
     
  10. Skybuck Flying

    Skybuck Flying Flightless Bird

    Re: Solution for: Windows XP (NL): Windows Activation Problem + Windows Automatic Update Problem = Very Slow Computer.

    "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:%236gavf$OLHA.456@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
    > Skybuck wrote:
    > <blithersnippage>
    >> I will disable automatic updates for now because it still seems to be
    >> malfunctioning.

    >
    > Uh-huh, Automatic Updates is malfunctioning...


    You know I tell you something.

    If I was Bill Gates/Steve Balmer and it turned out that I was correct and
    windows update *was* indeed malfunctioning.

    I would fire the whole window updates team that same day.

    Because this is the kind of thing that will make *average dag* people wanna
    switch to *anything* else.

    I couldn't write such a piece of crap on accident even if I tried ! ;) :)

    Bye,
    Skybuck.
     

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