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Robocopy

Discussion in 'Windows XP' started by Norm Cook, Mar 27, 2010.

  1. Norm Cook

    Norm Cook Flightless Bird

    Is it necessary to be in Safe Mode when performing
    a full C Drive (OS) backup to an external USB drive?

    I did this once before and I had to reload my soundcard
    drivers. My thought was copying system files and other
    Windows files (services, etc) caused this.
     
  2. Pegasus [MVP]

    Pegasus [MVP] Flightless Bird

    "Norm Cook" <normcook@cableone.net> wrote in message
    news:-OKf7LBazKHA.5940@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    > Is it necessary to be in Safe Mode when performing
    > a full C Drive (OS) backup to an external USB drive?
    >
    > I did this once before and I had to reload my soundcard
    > drivers. My thought was copying system files and other
    > Windows files (services, etc) caused this.


    There are a couple of "no"s here.
    - You cannot back up drive C: to an external medium, neither
    in Normal Mode nor in Safe Mode. In both modes, certain
    system files are locked. Here are a few options to do it:
    a) By using an imaging program such as Acronis TrueImage.
    b) By booting the machine with a boot CD such as a Bart
    PE boot CD or a Windows 7 Repair CD.
    c) By connecting the disk as a slave disk to some other machine.
    - Copying files will not affect your existing installation unless
    you select some robocopy switch that will delete source files.

    It would be a good idea to say what exactly you're trying to achieve.
     
  3. Jim

    Jim Flightless Bird

    On Sat, 27 Mar 2010 06:25:44 -0500, "Norm Cook"
    <normcook@cableone.net> wrote:

    >
    >Is it necessary to be in Safe Mode when performing
    >a full C Drive (OS) backup to an external USB drive?
    >
    >I did this once before and I had to reload my soundcard
    >drivers. My thought was copying system files and other
    >Windows files (services, etc) caused this.
    >


    Not an answer , but , why use robocopy ?
     
  4. Craig S

    Craig S Flightless Bird

    Pegasus - Anyone, until he answers and assuming his goal is just OS backup
    from corruption x,y,z, , Imaging Software allows, I think, (ie) Dbl-Clk an
    ..xml File or Clk a Restore Icon to Inject the back-up OS Copy in place of the
    "problem OS"- BUT it seems if a Boot CD is ever required (Bart PE, etc) they
    all want access to i386 Installation Files to Make the CD, which MANY owners
    don't have via Mfg'er Loaded OS's and NO Install Disks (my C:/i386 shows
    EMPTY!
    D: Recovery Partition back to Day 1 would be Hell to Update from after 3
    years!

    Will you address this possible issue when answering his Reply?

    "Pegasus [MVP]" wrote:

    >
    >
    > "Norm Cook" <normcook@cableone.net> wrote in message
    > news:-OKf7LBazKHA.5940@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    > > Is it necessary to be in Safe Mode when performing
    > > a full C Drive (OS) backup to an external USB drive?
    > >
    > > I did this once before and I had to reload my soundcard
    > > drivers. My thought was copying system files and other
    > > Windows files (services, etc) caused this.

    >
    > There are a couple of "no"s here.
    > - You cannot back up drive C: to an external medium, neither
    > in Normal Mode nor in Safe Mode. In both modes, certain
    > system files are locked. Here are a few options to do it:
    > a) By using an imaging program such as Acronis TrueImage.
    > b) By booting the machine with a boot CD such as a Bart
    > PE boot CD or a Windows 7 Repair CD.
    > c) By connecting the disk as a slave disk to some other machine.
    > - Copying files will not affect your existing installation unless
    > you select some robocopy switch that will delete source files.
    >
    > It would be a good idea to say what exactly you're trying to achieve.
    >
    > .
    >
     
  5. Patrick Keenan

    Patrick Keenan Flightless Bird

    "Jim" <bojimbo261@googlemail.com> wrote in message
    news:321sq5l6hjt9flop95mq9l1bc32vtmn5tk@4ax.com...
    > On Sat, 27 Mar 2010 06:25:44 -0500, "Norm Cook"
    > <normcook@cableone.net> wrote:
    >
    >>
    >>Is it necessary to be in Safe Mode when performing
    >>a full C Drive (OS) backup to an external USB drive?
    >>
    >>I did this once before and I had to reload my soundcard
    >>drivers. My thought was copying system files and other
    >>Windows files (services, etc) caused this.
    >>

    >
    > Not an answer , but , why use robocopy ?


    I suspect that some people 'remember' that you could sometimes create
    bootable file sets with xcopy. This hasn't worked for perhaps a couple of
    decades.
     
  6. Patrick Keenan

    Patrick Keenan Flightless Bird

    "Norm Cook" <normcook@cableone.net> wrote in message
    news:-OKf7LBazKHA.5940@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    > Is it necessary to be in Safe Mode when performing
    > a full C Drive (OS) backup to an external USB drive?
    >
    > I did this once before and I had to reload my soundcard
    > drivers. My thought was copying system files and other
    > Windows files (services, etc) caused this.


    There is no point in doing this because you won't get a bootable result.
    Robocopy is simply not capable of doing this, and you'll just waste time and
    drive space.

    Use an imaging program if you need the whole drive.

    HTH
    -pk
     
  7. Patrick Keenan

    Patrick Keenan Flightless Bird

    "Craig S" <CraigS@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:4000E237-6879-4F2A-A8E7-E63C5B939814@microsoft.com...
    > Pegasus - Anyone, until he answers and assuming his goal is just OS backup
    > from corruption x,y,z, , Imaging Software allows, I think, (ie) Dbl-Clk an
    > .xml File or Clk a Restore Icon to Inject the back-up OS Copy in place of
    > the
    > "problem OS"- BUT it seems if a Boot CD is ever required (Bart PE, etc)
    > they
    > all want access to i386 Installation Files to Make the CD, which MANY
    > owners
    > don't have via Mfg'er Loaded OS's and NO Install Disks (my C:/i386 shows
    > EMPTY!
    > D: Recovery Partition back to Day 1 would be Hell to Update from after 3
    > years!
    >
    > Will you address this possible issue when answering his Reply?


    I'm not sure why you think that the i386 folder is necessary. It's not
    involved in the process of burning disks and imaging programs use their own
    engines for disk creation.

    Also, if you restore a bootable OS partition from an image (accessed via
    boot DVD or hosting a drive), everything on the target partition is
    replaced, not just the OS files. It doesn't "inject", it replaces.

    If you have no install disks, you really should not rely on the recovery
    partition. When your drive fails, it will be as lost and unusable as
    everything else on the physical drive. Get an imaging program and another
    larger hard disk, and back up to the new drive. Also, contact the
    manufacturer and see if you can purchase a set of OS install media.



    >
    > "Pegasus [MVP]" wrote:
    >
    >>
    >>
    >> "Norm Cook" <normcook@cableone.net> wrote in message
    >> news:-OKf7LBazKHA.5940@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    >> > Is it necessary to be in Safe Mode when performing
    >> > a full C Drive (OS) backup to an external USB drive?
    >> >
    >> > I did this once before and I had to reload my soundcard
    >> > drivers. My thought was copying system files and other
    >> > Windows files (services, etc) caused this.

    >>
    >> There are a couple of "no"s here.
    >> - You cannot back up drive C: to an external medium, neither
    >> in Normal Mode nor in Safe Mode. In both modes, certain
    >> system files are locked. Here are a few options to do it:
    >> a) By using an imaging program such as Acronis TrueImage.
    >> b) By booting the machine with a boot CD such as a Bart
    >> PE boot CD or a Windows 7 Repair CD.
    >> c) By connecting the disk as a slave disk to some other machine.
    >> - Copying files will not affect your existing installation unless
    >> you select some robocopy switch that will delete source files.
    >>
    >> It would be a good idea to say what exactly you're trying to achieve.
    >>
    >> .
    >>
     
  8. Craig S

    Craig S Flightless Bird

    Thanks for the replies.
    Since Norm hasn't re-posted on HIS thread, I'll just say that my i386
    Install Files interest was because more than One Imaging App that presume you
    have to Boot from a CD SAY one needs those files to make (ie) a BartPE
    Rescue/Recovery CD in order to use the Image. I'm using Macrium Free and
    presumably I can Install the Saved Image over the "damaged" one JUST by
    Dbl-Clking the desired .XML File. Apparently, some situations Require a CD to
    access the Image backup, and that's where my question came from.
    (Slipstreaming SP3 ALWAYS talks of OS Install files need, also.).

    I've Never had the Need and am woefully lacking in this area of expertise.
    Just preparing for Worst and Learning as I go.
    Thanks again!


    "Patrick Keenan" wrote:

    >
    > "Norm Cook" <normcook@cableone.net> wrote in message
    > news:-OKf7LBazKHA.5940@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
    > > Is it necessary to be in Safe Mode when performing
    > > a full C Drive (OS) backup to an external USB drive?
    > >
    > > I did this once before and I had to reload my soundcard
    > > drivers. My thought was copying system files and other
    > > Windows files (services, etc) caused this.

    >
    > There is no point in doing this because you won't get a bootable result.
    > Robocopy is simply not capable of doing this, and you'll just waste time and
    > drive space.
    >
    > Use an imaging program if you need the whole drive.
    >
    > HTH
    > -pk
    >
    > .
    >
     

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