Returning to Windows 7

[Mark A. Sam]

I don't understand your (and other's) confusion:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/


"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Huh?
>
> Mark A. Sam wrote:
>> I recenlty purchased two laptops for a client installed with Windows 7
>> in
>> XP mode. Can these be switched to Windows 7 and how.
>

 

[Ken Blake, MVP]

On Thu, 13 May 2010 14:007 -0400, "Mark A. Sam"
<MarkASam@EmEssEn.Com> wrote:

> I don't understand your (and other's) confusion:
> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/


You say the two laptops have Windows 7 installed on them and you want
to know whether they can be switched to Windows 7?

We're not the ones who are confused; you are.



> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:e%23rNFLs8KHA.4648@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> > Huh?
> >
> > Mark A. Sam wrote:
> >> I recenlty purchased two laptops for a client installed with Windows 7
> >> in
> >> XP mode. Can these be switched to Windows 7 and how.
> >
>

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
Please Reply to the Newsgroup

 

[Mark A. Sam]

Thanks again Mark


"Mark Adams" <MarkAdams@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> "Mark A. Sam" wrote:
>
>> Thank you Mark. You got it right. I got that from HP. What I neglected
>> to
>> ask them is whether the product key for Windows 7 is the same as the XP
>> version. Do you know that?
>>
>
> No, it's not the same. Your Windows 7 product keys should be on a sticker
> attached to the bottom of the laptops. The machines probably have a hidden
> restore partition on the hard drive that you can invoke by selecting the
> proper keystrokes during startup (read the owner's manual). This will
> restore
> Windows 7 to the machines and wipe out the XP install along with any data
> on
> the drives. Make sure you save any data that you want to keep before you
> do
> this. The Windows 7 install will be preactivated, you won't need to enter
> a
> product key.
>
> It would be a good idea to make a recovery image of the XP installs to an
> external hard drive before you do this, because you will not have any
> other
> way to reinstall XP if ever you want to.
>
>>
>> "Mark Adams" <MarkAdams@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news2700914-8B96-4BB8-83CA-5C3322C039D6@microsoft.com...
>> >
>> >
>> > "Mark A. Sam" wrote:
>> >
>> >> It looks like XP from start to finish. I think I'll call HP and ask
>> >> them.
>> >> They installed the OS.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks.
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> > Very easy to check. Right click on the My Computer icon, select
>> > Properties.
>> > Post back the name and service pack level of the operating system. If
>> > you
>> > have XP it will say so. Use your Windows 7 installation media to
>> > install
>> > Windows 7.
>> >
>> >>
>> >> "News123" <news1234@free.fr> wrote in message
>> >> news:4bec04a2$0$31720$426a34cc@news.free.fr...
>> >> windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/help/upgrading-from-windows-xp-to-windows-7
>> >> >
>> >> > Whith what you describe I think, that you got a Windows 7 license,
>> >> > but
>> >> > that the installed operationg system is Windows XP.
>> >> >
>> >> > To be sure please look at following.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > When the computer boots (is powered up), what do you see on the
>> >> > screen.
>> >> >
>> >> > If it looks like Windows XP during the boot process, then I'd say,
>> >> > that
>> >> > you are running Windows XP (so your license was downgraded)
>> >> > Basically you had to install windows 7 then.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > If it looks like Windows 7 (during startup), then it will be the
>> >> > Windows XP emulation mode.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Windows XP during startup should look like:
>> >> > Screen with the Text "Starting Microsoft Windows XP"
>> >> >
>> >> > Windows 7 during startup should look like:
>> >> > White text on black barckground with 'Starting Windows' and the text
>> >> > "Microsoft Corporation" at the bottom of the screen.
>> >> > Then and a few colored animated points assembling themselves to
>> >> > windows
>> >> > logo)
>> >> >
>> >> > bye
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > N
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> .
>> >>
>>
>>
>> .
>>

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

+1

Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
> On Thu, 13 May 2010 14:007 -0400, "Mark A. Sam"
> <MarkASam@EmEssEn.Com> wrote:
>
>> I don't understand your (and other's) confusion:
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/
>
>
> You say the two laptops have Windows 7 installed on them and you want
> to know whether they can be switched to Windows 7?
>
> We're not the ones who are confused; you are.
>
>
>
>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:e%23rNFLs8KHA.4648@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> Huh?
>>>
>>> Mark A. Sam wrote:
>>>> I recenlty purchased two laptops for a client installed with Windows 7
>>>> in
>>>> XP mode. Can these be switched to Windows 7 and how.

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

See Ken's reply.

If you've got XP Mode installed, you're already running Win7.

Installing XP Mode is /not/ what an OEM is going when it downgrades a Win7
computer to WinXP.


Mark A. Sam wrote:
> I don't understand your (and other's) confusion:
> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/
>> Huh?
>>
>> Mark A. Sam wrote:
>>> I recenlty purchased two laptops for a client installed with Windows 7
>>> in
>>> XP mode. Can these be switched to Windows 7 and how.

 

[Mark A. Sam]

Ken,

Pa said, "Huh?". What does mean if not confusion?

Why do you think I'm confused?



"Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 13 May 2010 14:007 -0400, "Mark A. Sam"
> <MarkASam@EmEssEn.Com> wrote:
>
>> I don't understand your (and other's) confusion:
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/
>
>
> You say the two laptops have Windows 7 installed on them and you want
> to know whether they can be switched to Windows 7?
>
> We're not the ones who are confused; you are.
>
>
>
>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:e%23rNFLs8KHA.4648@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> > Huh?
>> >
>> > Mark A. Sam wrote:
>> >> I recenlty purchased two laptops for a client installed with Windows
>> >> 7
>> >> in
>> >> XP mode. Can these be switched to Windows 7 and how.
>> >
>>
>
> --
> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
> Please Reply to the Newsgroup

 

[Mark A. Sam]

your (and other's) confusion:
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/
>
>
> You say the two laptops have Windows 7 installed on them and you want
> to know whether they can be switched to Windows 7?
>
> We're not the ones who are confused; you are.

There is an XP Mode and there is an Xp Installation. If you read through
some of the posts, you will see that Windows 7 can be initiated. In my case
Windows 7 needs to be installed.

Some of you seem to have a hostile attitude and I don't know why. All I did
was ask a question. Isn't that what this forum is for?

 

[Mark A. Sam]

That isn't true. In my case, XP is installed and I need to install Windows
7.

 

[Larry]

On Thu, 13 May 2010 18:21:22 -0400, "Mark A. Sam"
<MarkASam@EmEssEn.Com> wrote:

>That isn't true. In my case, XP is installed and I need to install Windows
>7.
>

Duh ...

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

> ...I ordered the machines with XP, but they
> referred to it as Windows 7 downgradable to Windows XP.

Contact HP Support under terms of the Warranty.

QED: If you wanted Win7 installed, why did you order WinXP?


Mark A. Sam wrote:
> That isn't true. In my case, XP is installed and I need to install
> Windows
> 7.

 

[Mark A. Sam]

The client wanted them, but since then he bought a couple Windows 7 machines
and I have upgraded some Vista machines, and they work fine, so I want to
upgrade these too. He will probably be replacing all of his machines in the
next could years, so I think it best to be standard.


"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> ...I ordered the machines with XP, but they
>> referred to it as Windows 7 downgradable to Windows XP.
>
> Contact HP Support under terms of the Warranty.
>
> QED: If you wanted Win7 installed, why did you order WinXP?
>
>
> Mark A. Sam wrote:
>> That isn't true. In my case, XP is installed and I need to install
>> Windows
>> 7.
>

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

Again, contact the OEM.

Mark A. Sam wrote:
> The client wanted them, but since then he bought a couple Windows 7
> machines
> and I have upgraded some Vista machines, and they work fine, so I want to
> upgrade these too. He will probably be replacing all of his machines in
> the
> next could years, so I think it best to be standard.
>
>
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news0A2Vfw8KHA.5412@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> ...I ordered the machines with XP, but they
>>> referred to it as Windows 7 downgradable to Windows XP.
>>
>> Contact HP Support under terms of the Warranty.
>>
>> QED: If you wanted Win7 installed, why did you order WinXP?
>>
>>
>> Mark A. Sam wrote:
>>> That isn't true. In my case, XP is installed and I need to install
>>> Windows
>>> 7.

 

[Anteaus]

Before going anywhere with this I would quiz the client as to WHY he/she
wants to change to 7.

Windows 7 works. Vista did not work, at least not properly. That said, XP
works, and for most users there is no real advantage to 7, over XP. Over
Vista, definitely.

A key issue will arise if the client has a LAN with existing computers,
especially if it's a server/domain setup. If so it would be better to stick
to the same OS family (2000/XP or Vista/7) throughout. Mixing OS families on
a LAN will give rise to lots of problems.

"Mark A. Sam" wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I recenlty purchased two laptops for a client installed with Windows 7 in
> XP mode. Can these be switched to Windows 7 and how.
>
> Thank you and God Bless,
>
> Mark A. Sam
>
>
> .
>

 

[WaIIy]

On Thu, 13 May 2010 18:20:06 -0400, "Mark A. Sam" <MarkASam@EmEssEn.Com>
wrote:

>your (and other's) confusion:
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/
>>
>>
>> You say the two laptops have Windows 7 installed on them and you want
>> to know whether they can be switched to Windows 7?
>>
>> We're not the ones who are confused; you are.
>
>There is an XP Mode and there is an Xp Installation. If you read through
>some of the posts, you will see that Windows 7 can be initiated. In my case
>Windows 7 needs to be installed.
>
>Some of you seem to have a hostile attitude and I don't know why. All I did
>was ask a question. Isn't that what this forum is for?
>

True, some of the people here have a hostile attitude.

It has to do with being picked last in gym class and
something or other about their mommies I'd rather not know.

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

[We must've hit a nerve...]

WaIIy wrote:
> True, some of the people here have a hostile attitude.
>
> It has to do with being picked last in gym class and
> something or other about their mommies I'd rather not know.

 

[Terry R.]

On 5/14/2010 1:22 AM On a whim, Anteaus pounded out on the keyboard

> Before going anywhere with this I would quiz the client as to WHY he/she
> wants to change to 7.
>
> Windows 7 works. Vista did not work, at least not properly. That said, XP
> works, and for most users there is no real advantage to 7, over XP. Over
> Vista, definitely.
>
> A key issue will arise if the client has a LAN with existing computers,
> especially if it's a server/domain setup. If so it would be better to stick
> to the same OS family (2000/XP or Vista/7) throughout. Mixing OS families on
> a LAN will give rise to lots of problems.
>

Care to elaborate?

On one network I admin, there are servers with WS2003 and WS2008. Most
workstations are XP, but we have been upgrading workstations and laptops
that can handle it to Win7. There have been NO issues.


Terry R.
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[Michael]

Wally was always the last one out of the showers.

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"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> [We must've hit a nerve...]
>
> WaIIy wrote:
>> True, some of the people here have a hostile attitude.
>>
>> It has to do with being picked last in gym class and
>> something or other about their mommies I'd rather not know.

 

[Bill in Co.]

WaIIy wrote:
> On Thu, 13 May 2010 18:20:06 -0400, "Mark A. Sam" <MarkASam@EmEssEn.Com>
> wrote:
>
>> your (and other's) confusion:
>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/
>>>
>>>
>>> You say the two laptops have Windows 7 installed on them and you want
>>> to know whether they can be switched to Windows 7?
>>>
>>> We're not the ones who are confused; you are.
>>
>> There is an XP Mode and there is an Xp Installation. If you read through
>> some of the posts, you will see that Windows 7 can be initiated. In my
>> case
>> Windows 7 needs to be installed.
>>
>> Some of you seem to have a hostile attitude and I don't know why. All I
>> did
>> was ask a question. Isn't that what this forum is for?
>>
>
> True, some of the people here have a hostile attitude.

Noted. Look within.