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Peter
Flightless Bird
"Jose" <jose_ease@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Feb 21, 10:21 pm, "Daave" <da...@example.com> wrote:
> Jose wrote:
> > On Feb 21, 2:03 pm, "Daave" <da...@example.com> wrote:
> >> Jose wrote:
> >>> On Feb 21, 10:46 am, "Daave" <da...@example.com> wrote:
> >>>> Menno Hershberger wrote:
> >>>>> I have an older Systemax here with XP Home Edition (SP3) that
> >>>>> keeps rebooting itself whether or not in Normal or Safe Mode. I
> >>>>> have the restore CD and can get in to the Recovery Console OK. I
> >>>>> ran chkdsk, fixboot, and fixmbr. Those didn't fix it. So I cloned
> >>>>> the drive just for good luck and then tried to do a repair
> >>>>> install. The install went as far as examining the disk, copying
> >>>>> files, and then rebooted... only to go back into the reboot loop.
> >>>>> These people use their computer every day and keep their updates
> >>>>> up to date so I'm guessing it is NOT related to the MS update that
> >>>>> created havoc here a couple or three weeks ago.
> >>>>> I can always (and probably will) wipe it out and start anew since
> >>>>> I have all the data saved on another drive. But I'd rather not if
> >>>>> I can get out of it since it would require reinstall of a lot of
> >>>>> programs that they likely don't have in installation CDs for.
> >>>>> Does anyone have any ideas how I might get this fixed from the
> >>>>> Recovery Console? Or any other way, as far as that goes...
>
> >>>> In order to determine whether or not this is a hardware-related
> >>>> problem, boot off a live Linux CD and run the PC for a while to see
> >>>> if the rebooting behavior occurs.
>
> >>> I would like to try this.
>
> >> Why would you like to try this? Do you have a similar situation? I
> >> proposed leaving the Windows environment to the OP as a method to
> >> determine if this is a Windows problem or a hardware problem.
>
> >>> How do I boot off a live Linux CD if I don't have one
>
> >> Think about what you just stated. Obviously, if you don't have a live
> >> Linux CD, it is impossible to boot off of a live Linux CD! I am sure
> >> you already know this, and it is puzzling why you would ask such a
> >> question. Pehaps there is sarcasm embedded in your question; I don't
> >> know. If you are being sarcastic, I'm not sure why you would choose
> >> to do so.
>
> >> At any rate, if you truly want to boot off a live Linux CD (like
> >> Knoppix or Ubuntu) and currently don't have one, you obviously need
> >> to obtain one.
>
> >> Perhaps your question is "How do I obtain one?" If so, you may
> >> borrow or purchase one or use a working PC to make your own. If you
> >> still need guidance, I am sure you know how to use Google, correct?
>
> >>> and how long is a while?
>
> >> How long do I think a while should be? Don't you think it would be
> >> logical that this would depend on how long it takes for the OP's PC
> >> running under Windows to start acting up? If it does this within one
> >> minute consistently and if he can run for a significantly longer
> >> amount of time (perhaps one hour) under Linux with no issues, it
> >> would imply the hardware is not at fault. If the PC behaves the same
> >> exact way with regard to the rebooting issue under Linux, this
> >> surely would point to a hardware problem, don't you agree?
>
> >>> If it runs for a while, how will that help me fix Windows (what do I
> >>> do next).
>
> >> That question makes no sense considering the context. We do not yet
> >> know that Windows needs to be "fixed." Assuming that there is a
> >> hardware problem and nothing wrong with Windows, why would you want
> >> to fix Windows?
>
> >> If you have seen convincing evidence I may have missed that the
> >> reason for the rebooting is most likely due to Windows, please share
> >> it with the rest of us.
>
> >> My personal take is that if there is a possibility hardware is to
> >> blame, that is what should be addressed first. Otherwise,
> >> troubleshooting Windows or even taking the time to perform a Repair
> >> Install or a Clean Install could wind up wasting a lot of time.
>
> > You through out the suggestion to the OP, so if I was the OP what
> > would I do with your advice and how would I follow it?
>
> Rather than respond to your hypotheticals, I trust that Menno is
> intelligent enough to figure it out on his own and that furthermore, if
> he has questions, he will certainly be able to ask them.
Okay - I recreate what I believe to be the problem with the OP
computer again and booted on my Knoppix CD.
What have I learned?
That you have a know-it-all attitude and that you should stop it with your
trolling!
news:e215a0b4-448d-4dad-a87f-ff3d2ec33384@q21g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 21, 10:21 pm, "Daave" <da...@example.com> wrote:
> Jose wrote:
> > On Feb 21, 2:03 pm, "Daave" <da...@example.com> wrote:
> >> Jose wrote:
> >>> On Feb 21, 10:46 am, "Daave" <da...@example.com> wrote:
> >>>> Menno Hershberger wrote:
> >>>>> I have an older Systemax here with XP Home Edition (SP3) that
> >>>>> keeps rebooting itself whether or not in Normal or Safe Mode. I
> >>>>> have the restore CD and can get in to the Recovery Console OK. I
> >>>>> ran chkdsk, fixboot, and fixmbr. Those didn't fix it. So I cloned
> >>>>> the drive just for good luck and then tried to do a repair
> >>>>> install. The install went as far as examining the disk, copying
> >>>>> files, and then rebooted... only to go back into the reboot loop.
> >>>>> These people use their computer every day and keep their updates
> >>>>> up to date so I'm guessing it is NOT related to the MS update that
> >>>>> created havoc here a couple or three weeks ago.
> >>>>> I can always (and probably will) wipe it out and start anew since
> >>>>> I have all the data saved on another drive. But I'd rather not if
> >>>>> I can get out of it since it would require reinstall of a lot of
> >>>>> programs that they likely don't have in installation CDs for.
> >>>>> Does anyone have any ideas how I might get this fixed from the
> >>>>> Recovery Console? Or any other way, as far as that goes...
>
> >>>> In order to determine whether or not this is a hardware-related
> >>>> problem, boot off a live Linux CD and run the PC for a while to see
> >>>> if the rebooting behavior occurs.
>
> >>> I would like to try this.
>
> >> Why would you like to try this? Do you have a similar situation? I
> >> proposed leaving the Windows environment to the OP as a method to
> >> determine if this is a Windows problem or a hardware problem.
>
> >>> How do I boot off a live Linux CD if I don't have one
>
> >> Think about what you just stated. Obviously, if you don't have a live
> >> Linux CD, it is impossible to boot off of a live Linux CD! I am sure
> >> you already know this, and it is puzzling why you would ask such a
> >> question. Pehaps there is sarcasm embedded in your question; I don't
> >> know. If you are being sarcastic, I'm not sure why you would choose
> >> to do so.
>
> >> At any rate, if you truly want to boot off a live Linux CD (like
> >> Knoppix or Ubuntu) and currently don't have one, you obviously need
> >> to obtain one.
>
> >> Perhaps your question is "How do I obtain one?" If so, you may
> >> borrow or purchase one or use a working PC to make your own. If you
> >> still need guidance, I am sure you know how to use Google, correct?
>
> >>> and how long is a while?
>
> >> How long do I think a while should be? Don't you think it would be
> >> logical that this would depend on how long it takes for the OP's PC
> >> running under Windows to start acting up? If it does this within one
> >> minute consistently and if he can run for a significantly longer
> >> amount of time (perhaps one hour) under Linux with no issues, it
> >> would imply the hardware is not at fault. If the PC behaves the same
> >> exact way with regard to the rebooting issue under Linux, this
> >> surely would point to a hardware problem, don't you agree?
>
> >>> If it runs for a while, how will that help me fix Windows (what do I
> >>> do next).
>
> >> That question makes no sense considering the context. We do not yet
> >> know that Windows needs to be "fixed." Assuming that there is a
> >> hardware problem and nothing wrong with Windows, why would you want
> >> to fix Windows?
>
> >> If you have seen convincing evidence I may have missed that the
> >> reason for the rebooting is most likely due to Windows, please share
> >> it with the rest of us.
>
> >> My personal take is that if there is a possibility hardware is to
> >> blame, that is what should be addressed first. Otherwise,
> >> troubleshooting Windows or even taking the time to perform a Repair
> >> Install or a Clean Install could wind up wasting a lot of time.
>
> > You through out the suggestion to the OP, so if I was the OP what
> > would I do with your advice and how would I follow it?
>
> Rather than respond to your hypotheticals, I trust that Menno is
> intelligent enough to figure it out on his own and that furthermore, if
> he has questions, he will certainly be able to ask them.
Okay - I recreate what I believe to be the problem with the OP
computer again and booted on my Knoppix CD.
What have I learned?
That you have a know-it-all attitude and that you should stop it with your
trolling!