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Padlock On Folder?

Discussion in 'Windows 7' started by Pete Moscatt, Jul 25, 2010.

  1. Pete Moscatt

    Pete Moscatt Flightless Bird

    Hi All,

    I have made the move across the Windows 7 in recent times and therefore
    still getting used to the new environment.

    I am the administrator of the OS but I notice that under 'C:/Users\' that my
    account name has a padlock showing and can't get into certain hidden folders
    for maintenance.

    What's the way around this?

    Fritzables.
     
  2. Dave-UK

    Dave-UK Flightless Bird

    "Pete Moscatt" <pgmoscatt@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
    news:5rR2o.22768$0A5.6805@newsfe22.iad...
    > Hi All,
    >
    > I have made the move across the Windows 7 in recent times and therefore still getting used to the
    > new environment.
    >
    > I am the administrator of the OS but I notice that under 'C:/Users\' that my account name has a
    > padlock showing and can't get into certain hidden folders for maintenance.
    >
    > What's the way around this?
    >
    > Fritzables.
    >
    >


    There seems to be various things that generate a yellow lock icon
    on a folder, probably something to do with sharing and permissions.
    Googling 'yellow lock folder windows 7' gives plenty of hits and plenty
    of reasons.
    Some folders are not real folders, they are junction points for backwards
    compatiblity with software written for XP etc.
    Folder icons like ' My Documents', 'Application Data', 'NetHood' etc will generate
    a 'Location is not available' box and an Access Denied message.
    (You'll only see these icons if you have selected to show system files in folder options.)
     
  3. Gordon

    Gordon Flightless Bird

    On 25/07/2010 08:09, Pete Moscatt wrote:
    > Hi All,
    >
    > I have made the move across the Windows 7 in recent times and therefore
    > still getting used to the new environment.
    >
    > I am the administrator of the OS but I notice that under 'C:/Users\'
    > that my account name has a padlock showing and can't get into certain
    > hidden folders for maintenance.
    >
    > What's the way around this?
    >
    > Fritzables.
    >
    >


    What "hidden" folders for WHAT "maintenance"?
    You shouldn't need to enter hidden folders for any maintenance at all...
     
  4. Mr Baracuda

    Mr Baracuda Flightless Bird

    why do people want to mess around with folders THEY HAVE NO REASON TO BE
    POKING THEIR NOSE IN?????

    Leave the darn padlock folders alone! they are locked for a reason!


    "Pete Moscatt" wrote in message news:5rR2o.22768$0A5.6805@newsfe22.iad...

    Hi All,

    I have made the move across the Windows 7 in recent times and therefore
    still getting used to the new environment.

    I am the administrator of the OS but I notice that under 'C:/Users\' that my
    account name has a padlock showing and can't get into certain hidden folders
    for maintenance.

    What's the way around this?

    Fritzables.
     
  5. John

    John Flightless Bird

    Dave-UK wrote:
    > "Pete Moscatt" <pgmoscatt@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
    > news:5rR2o.22768$0A5.6805@newsfe22.iad...
    >> Hi All,
    >>
    >> I have made the move across the Windows 7 in recent times and
    >> therefore still getting used to the new environment.
    >>
    >> I am the administrator of the OS but I notice that under 'C:/Users\'
    >> that my account name has a padlock showing and can't get into
    >> certain hidden folders for maintenance. What's the way around this?
    >>
    >> Fritzables.
    >>
    >>

    >
    > There seems to be various things that generate a yellow lock icon
    > on a folder, probably something to do with sharing and permissions.
    > Googling 'yellow lock folder windows 7' gives plenty of hits and
    > plenty of reasons.
    > Some folders are not real folders, they are junction points for
    > backwards compatiblity with software written for XP etc.
    > Folder icons like ' My Documents', 'Application Data', 'NetHood' etc will
    > generate a 'Location is not available' box and an Access Denied message.


    I like to keep the "My Documents" folder on a different partition to the
    default system (C:) partition so that if I ever have to reformat and
    reinstall Windows, I don't lose all my personal data in the "My Documents"
    folder. I've always done this by right-clicking the shortcut to My Documents
    > Properties which shows current location and a "Move" button. Are you

    saying that it's different or can't be done in Win7?
     
  6. Gordon

    Gordon Flightless Bird

    On 25/07/2010 16:00, John wrote:

    >
    > I like to keep the "My Documents" folder on a different partition to the
    > default system (C:) partition so that if I ever have to reformat and
    > reinstall Windows, I don't lose all my personal data in the "My Documents"
    > folder. I've always done this by right-clicking the shortcut to My Documents
    > > Properties which shows current location and a "Move" button. Are you

    > saying that it's different or can't be done in Win7?
    >
    >


    Certainly can be done in Windows 7 in exactly that manner - bit not on
    the shortcut - it needs to be done on the actual folder itself...
     
  7. John

    John Flightless Bird

    Gordon wrote:
    > On 25/07/2010 16:00, John wrote:
    >
    >>
    >> I like to keep the "My Documents" folder on a different partition to
    >> the default system (C:) partition so that if I ever have to reformat
    >> and reinstall Windows, I don't lose all my personal data in the "My
    >> Documents" folder. I've always done this by right-clicking the
    >> shortcut to My Documents > Properties which shows current
    >> location and a "Move" button. Are you saying that it's different or
    >> can't be done in Win7?

    >
    > Certainly can be done in Windows 7 in exactly that manner - bit not on
    > the shortcut - it needs to be done on the actual folder itself...


    Ah right, thanks Gordon.
     
  8. Dave-UK

    Dave-UK Flightless Bird

    "John" <none@inuse.com> wrote in message news:ucOdnSbWhr8dzNHRnZ2dnUVZ8iKdnZ2d@bt.com...
    > Dave-UK wrote:
    >> "Pete Moscatt" <pgmoscatt@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
    >> news:5rR2o.22768$0A5.6805@newsfe22.iad...
    >>> Hi All,
    >>>
    >>> I have made the move across the Windows 7 in recent times and
    >>> therefore still getting used to the new environment.
    >>>
    >>> I am the administrator of the OS but I notice that under 'C:/Users\'
    >>> that my account name has a padlock showing and can't get into
    >>> certain hidden folders for maintenance. What's the way around this?
    >>>
    >>> Fritzables.
    >>>
    >>>

    >>
    >> There seems to be various things that generate a yellow lock icon
    >> on a folder, probably something to do with sharing and permissions.
    >> Googling 'yellow lock folder windows 7' gives plenty of hits and
    >> plenty of reasons.
    >> Some folders are not real folders, they are junction points for
    >> backwards compatiblity with software written for XP etc.
    >> Folder icons like ' My Documents', 'Application Data', 'NetHood' etc will
    >> generate a 'Location is not available' box and an Access Denied message.

    >
    > I like to keep the "My Documents" folder on a different partition to the
    > default system (C:) partition so that if I ever have to reformat and
    > reinstall Windows, I don't lose all my personal data in the "My Documents"
    > folder. I've always done this by right-clicking the shortcut to My Documents
    > > Properties which shows current location and a "Move" button. Are you

    > saying that it's different or can't be done in Win7?
    >
    >


    I see you are using XP, so you may not realise there is no 'My Documents' folder in Win7.
    It has been renamed to 'Documents'.
    As I explained the icon labelled 'My Documents' is a system file for backwards compatibility
    with software written for XP and Win98 etc. It is not normally visible to the user.
    In Win7, to change the location of the Documents folder:
    Right-click your Documents folder > Properties.
    Select the Location tab and make your changes.
     
  9. Gordon

    Gordon Flightless Bird

    On 25/07/2010 16:52, Dave-UK wrote:
    >


    >
    > I see you are using XP, so you may not realise there is no 'My
    > Documents' folder in Win7.
    > It has been renamed to 'Documents'.


    Not correct. It was changed to "Documents" in Vista but reverted to "My
    Documents" in Windows 7.
     
  10. Dave-UK

    Dave-UK Flightless Bird

    "Gordon" <gordonbparker@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:i2hn2p$me$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    > On 25/07/2010 16:52, Dave-UK wrote:
    >>

    >
    >>
    >> I see you are using XP, so you may not realise there is no 'My
    >> Documents' folder in Win7.
    >> It has been renamed to 'Documents'.

    >
    > Not correct. It was changed to "Documents" in Vista but reverted to "My
    > Documents" in Windows 7.


    Well I must have some strange version of Win7 Ultimate 64 then because the
    folder is called 'Documents' here. When I click on it, it opens.
    As I have system and hidden files shown I can see a semi-transparent folder icon
    with a blue arrow called 'My Documents'.
    If I try to open it I get an error message telling me the location is not available.
     
  11. Gordon

    Gordon Flightless Bird

    On 25/07/2010 17:08, Dave-UK wrote:
    >
    > "Gordon" <gordonbparker@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    > news:i2hn2p$me$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    >> On 25/07/2010 16:52, Dave-UK wrote:
    >>>

    >>
    >>>
    >>> I see you are using XP, so you may not realise there is no 'My
    >>> Documents' folder in Win7.
    >>> It has been renamed to 'Documents'.

    >>
    >> Not correct. It was changed to "Documents" in Vista but reverted to
    >> "My Documents" in Windows 7.

    >
    > Well I must have some strange version of Win7 Ultimate 64 then because the
    > folder is called 'Documents' here. When I click on it, it opens.
    > As I have system and hidden files shown I can see a semi-transparent
    > folder icon with a blue arrow called 'My Documents'.
    > If I try to open it I get an error message telling me the location is
    > not available.
    >
    >

    Did you upgrade from Vista?
    It's always been "My Documents" here, in a clean install of 7....
     
  12. Gordon

    Gordon Flightless Bird

    On 25/07/2010 17:08, Dave-UK wrote:
    >
    > "Gordon" <gordonbparker@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    > news:i2hn2p$me$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    >> On 25/07/2010 16:52, Dave-UK wrote:
    >>>

    >>
    >>>
    >>> I see you are using XP, so you may not realise there is no 'My
    >>> Documents' folder in Win7.
    >>> It has been renamed to 'Documents'.

    >>
    >> Not correct. It was changed to "Documents" in Vista but reverted to
    >> "My Documents" in Windows 7.

    >
    > Well I must have some strange version of Win7 Ultimate 64 then because the
    > folder is called 'Documents' here.


    Sure you aren't confusing the "My Documents" folder with the LIBRARY?
    That is called "Documents" but it contains a shortcut to the My
    Documents folder...
     
  13. Trev

    Trev Flightless Bird

    "Dave-UK" <Here@Home.com> wrote in message
    news:FdudnWQ9p8tcwNHRnZ2dnUVZ8qadnZ2d@giganews.com...
    >
    > "John" <none@inuse.com> wrote in message
    > news:ucOdnSbWhr8dzNHRnZ2dnUVZ8iKdnZ2d@bt.com...
    >> Dave-UK wrote:
    >>> "Pete Moscatt" <pgmoscatt@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
    >>> news:5rR2o.22768$0A5.6805@newsfe22.iad...
    >>>> Hi All,
    >>>>
    >>>> I have made the move across the Windows 7 in recent times and
    >>>> therefore still getting used to the new environment.
    >>>>
    >>>> I am the administrator of the OS but I notice that under 'C:/Users\'
    >>>> that my account name has a padlock showing and can't get into
    >>>> certain hidden folders for maintenance. What's the way around this?
    >>>>
    >>>> Fritzables.
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>> There seems to be various things that generate a yellow lock icon
    >>> on a folder, probably something to do with sharing and permissions.
    >>> Googling 'yellow lock folder windows 7' gives plenty of hits and
    >>> plenty of reasons.
    >>> Some folders are not real folders, they are junction points for
    >>> backwards compatiblity with software written for XP etc.
    >>> Folder icons like ' My Documents', 'Application Data', 'NetHood' etc
    >>> will generate a 'Location is not available' box and an Access Denied
    >>> message.

    >>
    >> I like to keep the "My Documents" folder on a different partition to the
    >> default system (C:) partition so that if I ever have to reformat and
    >> reinstall Windows, I don't lose all my personal data in the "My
    >> Documents" folder. I've always done this by right-clicking the shortcut
    >> to My Documents
    >> > Properties which shows current location and a "Move" button. Are you

    >> saying that it's different or can't be done in Win7?

    >
    > I see you are using XP, so you may not realise there is no 'My Documents'
    > folder in Win7.
    > It has been renamed to 'Documents'.


    But surprise lots of applications stick things in my documents and do so by
    creating a my documents folder in documents. still it was a good idea while
    it lasted


    > As I explained the icon labelled 'My Documents' is a system file for
    > backwards compatibility
    > with software written for XP and Win98 etc. It is not normally visible to
    > the user.
    > In Win7, to change the location of the Documents folder:
    > Right-click your Documents folder > Properties.
    > Select the Location tab and make your changes.
    >
    >
     
  14. Dave-UK

    Dave-UK Flightless Bird

    "Gordon" <gordonbparker@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:i2hplc$d0s$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    > On 25/07/2010 17:08, Dave-UK wrote:
    >>
    >> "Gordon" <gordonbparker@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    >> news:i2hn2p$me$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    >>> On 25/07/2010 16:52, Dave-UK wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>>>
    >>>> I see you are using XP, so you may not realise there is no 'My
    >>>> Documents' folder in Win7.
    >>>> It has been renamed to 'Documents'.
    >>>
    >>> Not correct. It was changed to "Documents" in Vista but reverted to
    >>> "My Documents" in Windows 7.

    >>
    >> Well I must have some strange version of Win7 Ultimate 64 then because the
    >> folder is called 'Documents' here. When I click on it, it opens.
    >> As I have system and hidden files shown I can see a semi-transparent
    >> folder icon with a blue arrow called 'My Documents'.
    >> If I try to open it I get an error message telling me the location is
    >> not available.
    >>
    >>

    > Did you upgrade from Vista?
    > It's always been "My Documents" here, in a clean install of 7....
    >
    >
    >


    No, it was a clean install. I'm Admin and here's my desktop folder:
    http://www.admin1.myzen.co.uk/AdminFolder.PNG
    The faded folder icons are normally hidden.
    My documents folder is labelled 'Documents'.
    All of these folders are junction points and generate the access denied error:
    Application Data
    Cookies
    Local Settings
    My Documents
    NetHood
    PrintHood
    SendTo
    Start Menu
    Templates
    Anyone else have the same or different setup?
     
  15. Death

    Death Flightless Bird

    "Gordon" <gordonbparker@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:i2hplc$d0s$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    > On 25/07/2010 17:08, Dave-UK wrote:
    >>
    >> "Gordon" <gordonbparker@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    >> news:i2hn2p$me$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    >>> On 25/07/2010 16:52, Dave-UK wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>>>
    >>>> I see you are using XP, so you may not realise there is no 'My
    >>>> Documents' folder in Win7.
    >>>> It has been renamed to 'Documents'.
    >>>
    >>> Not correct. It was changed to "Documents" in Vista but reverted to
    >>> "My Documents" in Windows 7.

    >>
    >> Well I must have some strange version of Win7 Ultimate 64 then because
    >> the
    >> folder is called 'Documents' here. When I click on it, it opens.
    >> As I have system and hidden files shown I can see a semi-transparent
    >> folder icon with a blue arrow called 'My Documents'.
    >> If I try to open it I get an error message telling me the location is
    >> not available.
    >>
    >>

    > Did you upgrade from Vista?
    > It's always been "My Documents" here, in a clean install of 7....
    >
    >
    >


    Win7 64 - back to My Documents, My Music, etc in the folder structure.
    But there are 2 My Documents...1 is just a junction point, the other
    contains junction points, except folders created by non-MS programs.
    The Library has Documents, Music, etc without the My.

    I think My(whatever) are still mainly being used as junction points for
    Windows, but other programs are creating actual folders within.

    The Properties of My Documents point to Documents.

    --
    Vita brevis breviter in brevi finietur,
    Mors venit velociter quae neminem veretur.
     
  16. johnbee

    johnbee Flightless Bird

    "Pete Moscatt" <pgmoscatt@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
    news:5rR2o.22768$0A5.6805@newsfe22.iad...
    > Hi All,
    >
    > I have made the move across the Windows 7 in recent times and therefore
    > still getting used to the new environment.
    >
    > I am the administrator of the OS but I notice that under 'C:/Users\' that
    > my account name has a padlock showing and can't get into certain hidden
    > folders for maintenance.
    >
    > What's the way around this?
    >
    > Fritzables.
    >
    >


    My understanding is that if the owner of a folder is SYSTEM, then the icon
    has a padlock on it. That is what it means, and it makes little difference
    to anything as long as one has admin privilege because you can always do
    whatever you want anyway.

    At least, it does mean that, but it might also mean something else as well:
    see my next comment.

    If you wish to have a go at fiddling with things, good on you I say, but
    make certain that you set up some folders and sub folders to practice on
    before doing anything for real. Security, sharing, ownership, ACLs, and so
    on are very tricky and if you change things a few times you will not get it
    right unless you are very clever or lucky, which you aren't because you
    asked the question in the first place. So, as I say, practice on folders
    where you do not care what happens.
     
  17. Dave-UK

    Dave-UK Flightless Bird

    "Gordon" <gordonbparker@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:i2hsnk$d54$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    > On 25/07/2010 17:08, Dave-UK wrote:
    >>
    >> "Gordon" <gordonbparker@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    >> news:i2hn2p$me$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    >>> On 25/07/2010 16:52, Dave-UK wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>>>
    >>>> I see you are using XP, so you may not realise there is no 'My
    >>>> Documents' folder in Win7.
    >>>> It has been renamed to 'Documents'.
    >>>
    >>> Not correct. It was changed to "Documents" in Vista but reverted to
    >>> "My Documents" in Windows 7.

    >>
    >> Well I must have some strange version of Win7 Ultimate 64 then because the
    >> folder is called 'Documents' here.

    >
    > Sure you aren't confusing the "My Documents" folder with the LIBRARY?
    > That is called "Documents" but it contains a shortcut to the My
    > Documents folder...


    I think you are right about the Libraries, here's a quote from Windows 7 Annoyances:
    "Disappointingly, the cloying "My" prefix that was mercifully
    absent in Vista has returned in Windows 7. But it's only used
    on the four folders for which there are matching libraries: My
    Documents, My Music, My Pictures, and My Videos. In Windows
    7, when you see one of these locations without the
    dreaded My label (such as the aforementioned Start menu entries),
    it usually means the library, not the folder."

    A couple of months ago I installed a beta Service Pack 1 for Win7 but removed
    it after a week or so. I'm wondering if that had altered anything.
     
  18. Pete Moscatt

    Pete Moscatt Flightless Bird

    Thanks for the responses....

    The folder I want access to is: C:/Users\Fritzables\Local Settings\Temp

    I can't get into 'Local Settings'

    I have had some Trojans attack in XP days and by going restarting in 'Safe
    Mode' one could go into this folder and delete it's contents and take the
    offending file with it.

    Hope this helps what I am trying to do.

    Fritzables.



    "Pete Moscatt" <pgmoscatt@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
    news:5rR2o.22768$0A5.6805@newsfe22.iad...
    > Hi All,
    >
    > I have made the move across the Windows 7 in recent times and therefore
    > still getting used to the new environment.
    >
    > I am the administrator of the OS but I notice that under 'C:/Users\' that
    > my account name has a padlock showing and can't get into certain hidden
    > folders for maintenance.
    >
    > What's the way around this?
    >
    > Fritzables.
    >
    >
     
  19. Gordon

    Gordon Flightless Bird

    On 27/07/10 08:24, Pete Moscatt wrote:
    > Thanks for the responses....
    >
    > The folder I want access to is: C:/Users\Fritzables\Local Settings\Temp
    >
    > I can't get into 'Local Settings'
    >


    I think you'll find that C:/Users\Fritzables\Local Settings is a
    Junction Point not a real folder - that's why you can't access it.
    Have you tried cleaning out all the Temp folders using disk cleanup?
     
  20. Pete Moscatt

    Pete Moscatt Flightless Bird

    I've been using CCleaner - I think that a pretty good job of it all.



    "Gordon" <gordonbparker@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:i2m7ae$hr9$1@news.eternal-september.org...
    > On 27/07/10 08:24, Pete Moscatt wrote:
    >> Thanks for the responses....
    >>
    >> The folder I want access to is: C:/Users\Fritzables\Local Settings\Temp
    >>
    >> I can't get into 'Local Settings'
    >>

    >
    > I think you'll find that C:/Users\Fritzables\Local Settings is a
    > Junction Point not a real folder - that's why you can't access it.
    > Have you tried cleaning out all the Temp folders using disk cleanup?
     

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