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odd UAC difficulty

V

vortch

Flightless Bird
If I turn off UAC, all my sidebar gadgets work.
(I have 'AllowElevatedProcess in the Registry)
If I set UAC to 'never notify', which I prefer, two gadgets do not
work.
One is a network monitor, which does not display properly or detect my
network interface.
The other is a clipboard app which proclaims it is not registered
properly.
One of the gadget authors does not respond, the other has no idea to
offer.
I have tried re-registering all dll's concerned, and shutting down
sidebar and reinstalling both gadgets.....to no avail.

This problem is in my x86 Win7 installation, yet both gadgets work
fine in my 64-bit Win7 installation with UAC set to 'never notify'!

I'm having suspicions that this may be related to security settings on
some keys in the registry or something.... I lack deep knowledge of
the registry and cannot figure anything else to research.

I have not found any reference to this problem anywhere, I sure would
appreciate any suggestions.
TIA
 
C

Char Jackson

Flightless Bird
On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 17:29:41 -0600, vortch <no_junk@unreal.org> wrote:

>If I turn off UAC, all my sidebar gadgets work.
>(I have 'AllowElevatedProcess in the Registry)
>If I set UAC to 'never notify', which I prefer, two gadgets do not
>work.
>One is a network monitor, which does not display properly or detect my
>network interface.
>The other is a clipboard app which proclaims it is not registered
>properly.
>One of the gadget authors does not respond, the other has no idea to
>offer.
>I have tried re-registering all dll's concerned, and shutting down
>sidebar and reinstalling both gadgets.....to no avail.
>
>This problem is in my x86 Win7 installation, yet both gadgets work
>fine in my 64-bit Win7 installation with UAC set to 'never notify'!
>
>I'm having suspicions that this may be related to security settings on
>some keys in the registry or something.... I lack deep knowledge of
>the registry and cannot figure anything else to research.
>
>I have not found any reference to this problem anywhere, I sure would
>appreciate any suggestions.
>TIA

Is there anything related to this in the Event Viewer?

(In XP it's at Start, Run, eventvwr.msc <enter>, but I don't know
about Win 7.)
 
T

The poster formerly known as 'The Poster Formerly

Flightless Bird
On 9/21/2010 6:29 PM, vortch wrote:
> If I turn off UAC, all my sidebar gadgets work.
> (I have 'AllowElevatedProcess in the Registry)
> If I set UAC to 'never notify', which I prefer, two gadgets do not
> work.
> One is a network monitor, which does not display properly or detect my
> network interface.
> The other is a clipboard app which proclaims it is not registered
> properly.
> One of the gadget authors does not respond, the other has no idea to
> offer.
> I have tried re-registering all dll's concerned, and shutting down
> sidebar and reinstalling both gadgets.....to no avail.
>
> This problem is in my x86 Win7 installation, yet both gadgets work
> fine in my 64-bit Win7 installation with UAC set to 'never notify'!
>
> I'm having suspicions that this may be related to security settings on
> some keys in the registry or something.... I lack deep knowledge of
> the registry and cannot figure anything else to research.
>
> I have not found any reference to this problem anywhere, I sure would
> appreciate any suggestions.
> TIA

Hi vortch.

Welcome to the fluster-cluck known as UAC. It is a known issue that
some things just do not work properly with UAC. There is no fix for
this issue. If your gadgets only work when UAC is off, then turn it off
and practice safe hex. Doing so is much simpler and less painful than
dealing with extra UAC crap anyway. UAC is nothing more than an
imperfect tool to help save the perpetually clueless from themselves on
a machine.
 
V

vortch

Flightless Bird
On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 19:58:23 -0500, Char Jackson <none@none.invalid>
wrote:

>On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 17:29:41 -0600, vortch <no_junk@unreal.org> wrote:
>
>>If I turn off UAC, all my sidebar gadgets work.
>>(I have 'AllowElevatedProcess in the Registry)
>>If I set UAC to 'never notify', which I prefer, two gadgets do not
>>work.
>>One is a network monitor, which does not display properly or detect my
>>network interface.
>>The other is a clipboard app which proclaims it is not registered
>>properly.
>>One of the gadget authors does not respond, the other has no idea to
>>offer.
>>I have tried re-registering all dll's concerned, and shutting down
>>sidebar and reinstalling both gadgets.....to no avail.
>>
>>This problem is in my x86 Win7 installation, yet both gadgets work
>>fine in my 64-bit Win7 installation with UAC set to 'never notify'!
>>
>>I'm having suspicions that this may be related to security settings on
>>some keys in the registry or something.... I lack deep knowledge of
>>the registry and cannot figure anything else to research.
>>
>>I have not found any reference to this problem anywhere, I sure would
>>appreciate any suggestions.
>>TIA
>
>Is there anything related to this in the Event Viewer?
>
>(In XP it's at Start, Run, eventvwr.msc <enter>, but I don't know
>about Win 7.)

Nothing in Event Viewer of any relevance that I can see, no errors
except a DNS flub, which apparently worked on retry.

I thought that turning off and on UAC would show up as something, but
I can find no reference to it.

It is a idea, however, I will also hunt Event Viewer in my x64 version
for any clues as to differences between them.

Thanks.
 
V

vortch

Flightless Bird
On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 09:40:16 -0500, The poster formerly known as 'The
Poster Formerly Known As Nina DiBoy' <me684@privacy.net> wrote:

>On 9/21/2010 6:29 PM, vortch wrote:
>> If I turn off UAC, all my sidebar gadgets work.
>> (I have 'AllowElevatedProcess in the Registry)
>> If I set UAC to 'never notify', which I prefer, two gadgets do not
>> work.
>> One is a network monitor, which does not display properly or detect my
>> network interface.
>> The other is a clipboard app which proclaims it is not registered
>> properly.
>> One of the gadget authors does not respond, the other has no idea to
>> offer.
>> I have tried re-registering all dll's concerned, and shutting down
>> sidebar and reinstalling both gadgets.....to no avail.
>>
>> This problem is in my x86 Win7 installation, yet both gadgets work
>> fine in my 64-bit Win7 installation with UAC set to 'never notify'!
>>
>> I'm having suspicions that this may be related to security settings on
>> some keys in the registry or something.... I lack deep knowledge of
>> the registry and cannot figure anything else to research.
>>
>> I have not found any reference to this problem anywhere, I sure would
>> appreciate any suggestions.
>> TIA
>
>Hi vortch.
>
>Welcome to the fluster-cluck known as UAC. It is a known issue that
>some things just do not work properly with UAC. There is no fix for
>this issue. If your gadgets only work when UAC is off, then turn it off
>and practice safe hex. Doing so is much simpler and less painful than
>dealing with extra UAC crap anyway. UAC is nothing more than an
>imperfect tool to help save the perpetually clueless from themselves on
>a machine.

A decent, valid, and acceptable suggestion !
I agree.
I just sort of like UAC as an indicator of otherwise unperceivable
screw-ups in the programming of 3rd-party apps - so many want to run
as administrator when they don't need to.
Also, it is a puzzle that intrigues me, as both gadgets work fine
under the x64 system.
 
D

Dave

Flightless Bird
"Char Jackson" <none@none.invalid> wrote in message
news:c2li9693a7k3792nus7a3f8l1r98ffjptj@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 17:29:41 -0600, vortch <no_junk@unreal.org> wrote:
>
>>If I turn off UAC, all my sidebar gadgets work.
>>(I have 'AllowElevatedProcess in the Registry)
>>If I set UAC to 'never notify', which I prefer, two gadgets do not
>>work.
>>One is a network monitor, which does not display properly or detect my
>>network interface.
>>The other is a clipboard app which proclaims it is not registered
>>properly.
>>One of the gadget authors does not respond, the other has no idea to
>>offer.
>>I have tried re-registering all dll's concerned, and shutting down
>>sidebar and reinstalling both gadgets.....to no avail.
>>
>>This problem is in my x86 Win7 installation, yet both gadgets work
>>fine in my 64-bit Win7 installation with UAC set to 'never notify'!
>>
>>I'm having suspicions that this may be related to security settings on
>>some keys in the registry or something.... I lack deep knowledge of
>>the registry and cannot figure anything else to research.
>>
>>I have not found any reference to this problem anywhere, I sure would
>>appreciate any suggestions.
>>TIA
>
> Is there anything related to this in the Event Viewer?
>
> (In XP it's at Start, Run, eventvwr.msc <enter>, but I don't know
> about Win 7.)
>

Char,
Works the same in Win 7.
Dave
 
C

Char Jackson

Flightless Bird
On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 21:40:55 -0500, "Dave" <dave@unknown.invalid>
wrote:

>"Char Jackson" <none@none.invalid> wrote in message
>news:c2li9693a7k3792nus7a3f8l1r98ffjptj@4ax.com...
>>
>> Is there anything related to this in the Event Viewer?
>>
>> (In XP it's at Start, Run, eventvwr.msc <enter>, but I don't know
>> about Win 7.)
>>
>
>Char,
>Works the same in Win 7.
>Dave

Thanks. Just goes to show they didn't change 'everything', eh? :)
 
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