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New high-resolution screens from Lenovo

Discussion in 'Notebooks' started by Tassinari, Oct 13, 2010.

  1. Tassinari

    Tassinari Flightless Bird

    I used to admire Lenovo laptop screens, especially the UXGA (1600x1200)
    Flexview on the T42/43P and T60/61P, until about a year ago, when the
    mid-resolution ones (about 13xx or 14xx) came out on the T400/410 and
    T500-510, and they were ugly, with horizontal lines, which horrified me.

    I have never seen the recent high-resolution screens (1600 or 1920) of
    Lenovo laptops, specifically the T500/510 and W500-510 models. Recently
    the WUXGA (1920x1200) was dropped and replaced by the 1920x1080 screens,
    and I wonder whether they are still up to the sharpness, clarity and
    beauty of the old Flexview UXGA (1600x1200) screens on the T42/43P and
    T60/61P of three years ago or longer.

    Does anybody see them (the 1920x1200 and the 1920x1080 screens) and can
    anybody provide any comparison with the old Flexview UXGA (1600x1200)
    screens?

    Thank you.
     
  2. ~misfit~

    ~misfit~ Flightless Bird

    Somewhere on teh intarwebs Tassinari wrote:
    > I used to admire Lenovo laptop screens, especially the UXGA
    > (1600x1200) Flexview on the T42/43P and T60/61P, until about a year
    > ago, when the mid-resolution ones (about 13xx or 14xx) came out on
    > the T400/410 and T500-510, and they were ugly, with horizontal lines,
    > which horrified me.
    > I have never seen the recent high-resolution screens (1600 or 1920) of
    > Lenovo laptops, specifically the T500/510 and W500-510 models.
    > Recently the WUXGA (1920x1200) was dropped and replaced by the
    > 1920x1080 screens, and I wonder whether they are still up to the
    > sharpness, clarity and beauty of the old Flexview UXGA (1600x1200)
    > screens on the T42/43P and T60/61P of three years ago or longer.
    >
    > Does anybody see them (the 1920x1200 and the 1920x1080 screens) and
    > can anybody provide any comparison with the old Flexview UXGA
    > (1600x1200) screens?


    Hi Tassinari. To the best of my knowledge there were never T61 Flexviews
    made. While Lenovo's latest screens seem fine I'll be using my FlexViews for
    as long as I can. (I have four running right now, two T60s, a T43 and an
    R50.) There's nothing to compare with them been made since.
    --
    Shaun.

    "He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a
    monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also
    into you." Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche
     
  3. Tassinari

    Tassinari Flightless Bird

    ~misfit~ wrote:
    > Somewhere on teh intarwebs Tassinari wrote:
    >> I used to admire Lenovo laptop screens, especially the UXGA
    >> (1600x1200) Flexview on the T42/43P and T60/61P, until about a year
    >> ago, when the mid-resolution ones (about 13xx or 14xx) came out on
    >> the T400/410 and T500-510, and they were ugly, with horizontal lines,
    >> which horrified me.
    >> I have never seen the recent high-resolution screens (1600 or 1920) of
    >> Lenovo laptops, specifically the T500/510 and W500-510 models.
    >> Recently the WUXGA (1920x1200) was dropped and replaced by the
    >> 1920x1080 screens, and I wonder whether they are still up to the
    >> sharpness, clarity and beauty of the old Flexview UXGA (1600x1200)
    >> screens on the T42/43P and T60/61P of three years ago or longer.
    >>
    >> Does anybody see them (the 1920x1200 and the 1920x1080 screens) and
    >> can anybody provide any comparison with the old Flexview UXGA
    >> (1600x1200) screens?

    >
    > Hi Tassinari. To the best of my knowledge there were never T61 Flexviews
    > made. While Lenovo's latest screens seem fine I'll be using my FlexViews for
    > as long as I can. (I have four running right now, two T60s, a T43 and an
    > R50.) There's nothing to compare with them been made since.


    Thank you. While Lenovo's latest screens seem fine to you, the
    high-resolution ones (the 1920x1200 and the 1920x1080 screens) do not
    look ugly to you, do they?

    The mid-resolution ones (about 13xx or 14xx) on the T400/410 and
    T500-510 to me look *ugly, fuzzy, grainy, with horizontal lines,*
    contrary to the sharpness, clarity and beauty of the old Flexview UXGA
    (1600x1200) screens on the T42/43P and T60P. I now have to buy a new
    laptop, and if I buy a high-resolution Lenovo, with the 1920x1200 or the
    1920x1080 screens, it will be sight unseen, so I would like to know your
    opinion on them.

    Thank you.
     
  4. ~misfit~

    ~misfit~ Flightless Bird

    Somewhere on teh intarwebs Tassinari wrote:
    > ~misfit~ wrote:
    >> Somewhere on teh intarwebs Tassinari wrote:
    >>> I used to admire Lenovo laptop screens, especially the UXGA
    >>> (1600x1200) Flexview on the T42/43P and T60/61P, until about a year
    >>> ago, when the mid-resolution ones (about 13xx or 14xx) came out on
    >>> the T400/410 and T500-510, and they were ugly, with horizontal
    >>> lines, which horrified me.
    >>> I have never seen the recent high-resolution screens (1600 or 1920)
    >>> of Lenovo laptops, specifically the T500/510 and W500-510 models.
    >>> Recently the WUXGA (1920x1200) was dropped and replaced by the
    >>> 1920x1080 screens, and I wonder whether they are still up to the
    >>> sharpness, clarity and beauty of the old Flexview UXGA (1600x1200)
    >>> screens on the T42/43P and T60/61P of three years ago or longer.
    >>>
    >>> Does anybody see them (the 1920x1200 and the 1920x1080 screens) and
    >>> can anybody provide any comparison with the old Flexview UXGA
    >>> (1600x1200) screens?

    >>
    >> Hi Tassinari. To the best of my knowledge there were never T61
    >> Flexviews made. While Lenovo's latest screens seem fine I'll be
    >> using my FlexViews for as long as I can. (I have four running right
    >> now, two T60s, a T43 and an R50.) There's nothing to compare with
    >> them been made since.

    >
    > Thank you. While Lenovo's latest screens seem fine to you, the
    > high-resolution ones (the 1920x1200 and the 1920x1080 screens) do not
    > look ugly to you, do they?


    Well.... No worse than most other contemporary displays. However not even in
    the same class as FlexViews.

    > The mid-resolution ones (about 13xx or 14xx) on the T400/410 and
    > T500-510 to me look *ugly, fuzzy, grainy, with horizontal lines,*
    > contrary to the sharpness, clarity and beauty of the old Flexview UXGA
    > (1600x1200) screens on the T42/43P and T60P.


    I tried a UXGA FlexView and found it *too* hi-res in 15". (I have two 20"
    Dell UXGA IPS desktop monitors and, to my eyes, 20" and UXGA is a good mix.)
    Consequently I've bought my ThinkPads with (15") SXGA+ FlexViews and find
    them to be a perfect pixel density for my use. Also, most of the various XXp
    ThinkPads (that came with UXGA) had more powerful GPUs that could be a major
    problem w/r/t overheating.

    I find the SXGA+ FlexView to be a thing of beauty though and will take the
    absolute best care of my ThinkPads hoping for a long life from them. They
    are all capable of running Win 7 adequately, the T60s run it very well
    (although I'm sticking with XP for now). That's part of the reason I prefer
    the cooler-running GPUs, longevity. It's also the reason a lot of people
    make 'FrankenPads', so that they can have UXGA without having a small
    furnace in the middle of their laptop.

    > I now have to buy a new
    > laptop, and if I buy a high-resolution Lenovo, with the 1920x1200 or
    > the 1920x1080 screens, it will be sight unseen, so I would like to
    > know your opinion on them.


    I'm sorry, I'd rather not have that responsibility. I've not taken *that*
    much notice of the few new hi-res Lenovo screens that I've seen and don't
    know of one that I can go look at right now for you.

    Honestly, I dislike the trend to glossy, 'widescreen' laptops so much that
    I've 'stocked up' with a couple highly-specced T60s which, I'm sure, will
    last me for quite a few years yet. I'm slowly upgrading CPUs to at least
    T7400s, as I can get them (I got my hands on an awesome LV T7400 out of a
    Viao a few months ago) as these are powerful CPUs with large L2 caches. As
    they come down in price I also intend to use SSDs with them. I already have
    them maxxed out on RAM (as DDR2 SODIMMs are starting to increase in price
    now that they're no longer mainstream).

    Anyway, best of luck with your search.
    --
    Shaun.

    "He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a
    monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also
    into you." Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche
     

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