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NEED HELP SOON: Win7 Files & Settings Transfer Wiz & Office Outlook PST Mailboxes

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Diane Poremsky [MVP]

Flightless Bird
Yeah... when the Exchange admin uses Exmerge, they are importing/exporting.

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"Tom Willett" <tom@youreadaisyifyoudo.com> wrote in message
news:eRu5Zta0KHA.6108@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Perhaps sometimes with some people, but not all the time, nor most of the
> time. Our company did it numerous times with numerous flavors of Outlook
> many many times over the years. Not one iota of corruption. But, we have
> discontinued using Outlook anyway.
>
> "Peter Foldes" <okf22@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:e6GIWAa0KHA.364@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> : Alias
> :
> : You were correct with your answer to the OP in the alt.group. Importing
> and
> : Exporting will corrupt the files
> :
> : --
> : Peter
> :
 
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Gordon

Flightless Bird
"Tecknomage" <tecknode@NOSPAM.com> wrote in message
news:1qs8r5t3nba5c377js3ro3l90usmkska8q@4ax.com...
>
> How well will the *Win7* [Files and Settings Transfer Wizard] work
> from a WinXP with Outlook 2000 to Win7 with Outlook 2007?
>


Don't use WET for Outlook data - it WILL corrupt the mail profile.
See here on how to transfer Outlook data:
http://gordonb-p.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!E60CE3038809E993!2580.entry
 
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Gordon

Flightless Bird
"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:8v39r59vi5ogsislvmn00705ot805nmnq0@4ax.com...
>
> Importing does not keep using the exported PST file copied from the
> old computer - it just imports the data into the new installation.


(Courtesy of Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook])

Importing an entire PST may well corrupt your profile and may create a ghost
PST that you can't close. Importing PST's will lose:
1. Custom Forms
2. Custom Views
3. Connections between contacts and activities
4. Received dates on mail
5. Birthdays and anniversaries in calendar
6. Journal connections
7. Distribution Lists

Opening a PST file will preserve all of these. That is why we do not advise
people to import a native file into Outlook.
 
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Gordon

Flightless Bird
"Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:qoa9r5h5mj3vvhekeskq33d4lufi37f2iq@4ax.com...
>
> I guess that's why I've done it that way multiple times, for a family
> member who actually uses Outlook for God knows what reason, and has
> changed computers multiple times, and it didn't "corrupt" anything.


Then you have been extraordinarily lucky.
 
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Alias

Flightless Bird
Re: NEED HELP SOON: Win7 Files & Settings Transfer Wiz & OfficeOutlook PST Mailboxes

Joel wrote:
> Alias <aka@masked&anonymous.com.invalido> wrote:
>
>> You wanted proof and Peter gave it to you.

>
>
> Am I supposed to know *what* proof he claims he has just because, like
> you, he spouted some ridiculous tripe? I have successfully used my
> suggested method, multiple times. Maybe Peter made some mistake. And
> why did another poster contradict him, other than myself? Doesn't
> that "prove" anything, or is it only "proof" if someone makes an
> assertion that supports *you*, dips---?
>
>
>> If you can wait, I am sure
>> that more Outlook experts

>
>
> Is that anything like "military intelligence"?
>
>
>> will correct you as well.

>
>
> And I will laugh at their Wintendo luserdom.
>
>
>> You hurling insults
>> towards me and Ubuntu does nothing for your credibility except to reveal
>> how desperate you are to be right.

>
>
> I am right - you are a joke of a Linux user, and Outlook along with
> all of MSO is a complete piece of trash, and my suggested method does
> work. I stand by it all.
>


Ask your friend what dates ALL of his emails are set to now. Then ask he
or she if he or she is happy with that.

--
Alias
 
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Diane Poremsky [MVP]

Flightless Bird
> Ask your friend what dates ALL of his emails are set to now. Then ask he
> or she if he or she is happy with that.


Only the last modified date is changed when you import/export pst to pst.
Sent and received dates are not touched.

If you are moving from OE/Mail/Live mail and use Outlook's Import command,
then the received (and last mod) date is changed - use export from OE
instead.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
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Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com/

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Joel

Flightless Bird
"Gordon" <gordonbparker@yahoo.com> wrote:

>(Courtesy of Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook])
>
>Importing an entire PST may well corrupt your profile and may create a ghost
>PST that you can't close. Importing PST's will lose:
>1. Custom Forms
>2. Custom Views
>3. Connections between contacts and activities
>4. Received dates on mail
>5. Birthdays and anniversaries in calendar
>6. Journal connections
>7. Distribution Lists
>
>Opening a PST file will preserve all of these. That is why we do not advise
>people to import a native file into Outlook.



A better recommendation for WLMail and Thunderbird has never been
written. :)

--
Joel Crump
 
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Leythos

Flightless Bird
In article <hp223i$gdo$1@news.eternal-september.org>,
aka@masked&anonymous.com.invalido says...
> And you would have advised the OP to do a very stupid thing. PST files
> must be *opened*, not imported.
>


Showing just how little you know about Windows again Alias.

Outlook export to PST is the proper method unless you have your own
Exchange server.

Outlook 97, 2000, XP, all export just fine to a PST, and it can be
larger than 2GB, since it's an export, not a daily use file.

As for how to get it into Outlook 2007, it should be IMPORTED, as is the
standard for stand-alone migration.

Done this thousands of times, never had a problem.

--
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voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that.
Trust yourself.
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Leythos

Flightless Bird
In article <e6GIWAa0KHA.364@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, okf22@hotmail.com
says...
> You were correct with your answer to the OP in the alt.group. Importing and
> Exporting will corrupt the files
>


No, he's not correct and it will not corrupt the files.

Just yesterday I exported Outlook 97 data, the entire tree, and imported
it into Office 2007 and it worked perfectly.

--
You can't trust your best friends, your five senses, only the little
voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that.
Trust yourself.
spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)
 
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Leythos

Flightless Bird
In article <hp2avl$c77$3@news.eternal-september.org>,
aka@masked&anonymous.com.invalido says...
>
> Joel wrote:
> > Alias <aka@masked&anonymous.com.invalido> wrote:
> >
> >> I wonder what the good folks in microsoft.public.outlook think of this
> >> exporting/importing method.

> >
> >
> > I wonder why you care, Ubuntu toy-Linux-distro luser. I only answered
> > the OP to be helpful, since I loathe MS Office, even though I run
> > Windows, but happen to have done this for another person's computer.
> > It's funny how you'll stoop to spamming the Outlook NG just to troll
> > a.win7.gen.
> >

>
> You wanted proof and Peter gave it to you. If you can wait, I am sure
> that more Outlook experts will correct you as well. You hurling insults
> towards me and Ubuntu does nothing for your credibility except to reveal
> how desperate you are to be right.


If you were to have actually done this, as we can tell that Peter has
NOT done this, you would know that Export and Import work fine and
without corruption across the different versions of outlook.

--
You can't trust your best friends, your five senses, only the little
voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that.
Trust yourself.
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Leythos

Flightless Bird
In article <hp2i9v$fae$1@news.eternal-september.org>,
gordonbparker@yahoo.com says...
>
> "Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:8v39r59vi5ogsislvmn00705ot805nmnq0@4ax.com...
> >
> > Importing does not keep using the exported PST file copied from the
> > old computer - it just imports the data into the new installation.

>
> (Courtesy of Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook])
>
> Importing an entire PST may well corrupt your profile and may create a ghost
> PST that you can't close. Importing PST's will lose:
> 1. Custom Forms
> 2. Custom Views
> 3. Connections between contacts and activities
> 4. Received dates on mail
> 5. Birthdays and anniversaries in calendar
> 6. Journal connections
> 7. Distribution Lists
>
> Opening a PST file will preserve all of these. That is why we do not advise
> people to import a native file into Outlook.
>
>


Having done thousands of moves to different versions of outlook, I have
never experienced a "Profile" corruption in Outlook, never lost a
contact, email, task, or calendar item.

--
You can't trust your best friends, your five senses, only the little
voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that.
Trust yourself.
spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)
 
D

Diane Poremsky [MVP]

Flightless Bird
> Just yesterday I exported Outlook 97 data, the entire tree, and imported
> it into Office 2007 and it worked perfectly.


This is the perfect scenario for Importing.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/
Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com/

Outlook Tips by email:
mailto:dailytips-subscribe-request@lists.outlooktips.net

EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange:
mailto:EMO-NEWSLETTER-SUBSCRIBE-REQUEST@PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM

Do you sync your mailbox with a smartphone or pda?
http://forums.slipstick.com/showthread.php?t=39473

"Leythos" <spam999free@rrohio.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.261eb17cada20d6798a242@us.news.astraweb.com...
> In article <e6GIWAa0KHA.364@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, okf22@hotmail.com
> says...
>> You were correct with your answer to the OP in the alt.group. Importing
>> and
>> Exporting will corrupt the files
>>

>
> No, he's not correct and it will not corrupt the files.
>
> Just yesterday I exported Outlook 97 data, the entire tree, and imported
> it into Office 2007 and it worked perfectly.
>
> --
> You can't trust your best friends, your five senses, only the little
> voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that.
> Trust yourself.
> spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)
 
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Leythos

Flightless Bird
In article <OWuK#tc0KHA.3380@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, outlookmvp@msn.com
says...
> > Just yesterday I exported Outlook 97 data, the entire tree, and imported
> > it into Office 2007 and it worked perfectly.

>
> This is the perfect scenario for Importing.
>


Yep, been that way for years, since outlook first became a main-stream
office email application.

What I though funny was that a customer was still using office 97 on a
computer, actively.... They are in for a rude surprise when they see
Office 2007's completely different menu's and massive waste of space in
the menu's.

--
You can't trust your best friends, your five senses, only the little
voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that.
Trust yourself.
spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)
 
D

Diane Poremsky [MVP]

Flightless Bird
Not sure I'd describe it as "funny"... but yes, they will be in for a shock.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/
Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com/

Outlook Tips by email:
mailto:dailytips-subscribe-request@lists.outlooktips.net

EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange:
mailto:EMO-NEWSLETTER-SUBSCRIBE-REQUEST@PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM

Do you sync your mailbox with a smartphone or pda?
http://forums.slipstick.com/showthread.php?t=39473

"Leythos" <spam999free@rrohio.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.261eb648384c356b98a245@us.news.astraweb.com...
> In article <OWuK#tc0KHA.3380@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, outlookmvp@msn.com
> says...
>> > Just yesterday I exported Outlook 97 data, the entire tree, and
>> > imported
>> > it into Office 2007 and it worked perfectly.

>>
>> This is the perfect scenario for Importing.
>>

>
> Yep, been that way for years, since outlook first became a main-stream
> office email application.
>
> What I though funny was that a customer was still using office 97 on a
> computer, actively.... They are in for a rude surprise when they see
> Office 2007's completely different menu's and massive waste of space in
> the menu's.
>
> --
> You can't trust your best friends, your five senses, only the little
> voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that.
> Trust yourself.
> spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)
 
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Leythos

Flightless Bird
In article <#Q9QV5c0KHA.3412@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, outlookmvp@msn.com
says...
> Not sure I'd describe it as "funny"... but yes, they will be in for a shock.
>


Yea, I was being slightly sarcastic.

Do you know that your sig violates Usenet standards of 4-5 lines?

--
You can't trust your best friends, your five senses, only the little
voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that.
Trust yourself.
spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)
 
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Char Jackson

Flightless Bird
On Thu, 01 Apr 2010 10:18:22 -0400, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:

>"Peter Foldes" <okf22@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Alias
>>
>>You were correct with your answer to the OP in the alt.group. Importing and
>>Exporting will corrupt the files

>
>
>I guess that's why I've done it that way multiple times, for a family
>member who actually uses Outlook for God knows what reason, and has
>changed computers multiple times, and it didn't "corrupt" anything.
>And I guess you enjoy using a product that you claim "corrupts" files
>for absolutely no good reason. Two for two on Microsoft Office
>lameness.


FWIW, I've used the method described by Alias about 2-3 dozen times
over the past 10 years and recommend it. It makes no sense to me to
Export and Import when easier methods exist.
 
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Alias

Flightless Bird
Re: NEED HELP SOON: Win7 Files & Settings Transfer Wiz & OfficeOutlook PST Mailboxes

Leythos wrote:
> In article <hp223i$gdo$1@news.eternal-september.org>,
> aka@masked&anonymous.com.invalido says...
>> And you would have advised the OP to do a very stupid thing. PST files
>> must be *opened*, not imported.
>>

>
> Showing just how little you know about Windows again Alias.


I thought we were talking about Outlook.

Snip bullshit

--
Alias
 
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Alias

Flightless Bird
Re: NEED HELP SOON: Win7 Files & Settings Transfer Wiz & OfficeOutlook PST Mailboxes

Char Jackson wrote:
> On Thu, 01 Apr 2010 10:18:22 -0400, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> "Peter Foldes" <okf22@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Alias
>>>
>>> You were correct with your answer to the OP in the alt.group. Importing and
>>> Exporting will corrupt the files

>>
>> I guess that's why I've done it that way multiple times, for a family
>> member who actually uses Outlook for God knows what reason, and has
>> changed computers multiple times, and it didn't "corrupt" anything.
>> And I guess you enjoy using a product that you claim "corrupts" files
>> for absolutely no good reason. Two for two on Microsoft Office
>> lameness.

>
> FWIW, I've used the method described by Alias about 2-3 dozen times
> over the past 10 years and recommend it. It makes no sense to me to
> Export and Import when easier methods exist.
>


Note, my recommendation had to do with Outlook 2000 to 2007. Had the
case been that one was moving the same type of .pst file, I would do it
a different way.

--
Alias
 
P

Peter Foldes

Flightless Bird
>How well will the *Win7* [Files and Settings Transfer Wizard] work
>from a WinXP with Outlook 2000 to Win7 with Outlook 2007?


OL 2000 to OL2007 pst

Just curious Diane. Outlook 2000 to Outlook 2007 when files are saved importing the
OL 2000 saved files to OL 2007 will not corrupt and will work ?


--
Peter

Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
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"Diane Poremsky [MVP]" <outlookmvp@msn.com> wrote in message
news:-OWuK%23tc0KHA.3380@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Just yesterday I exported Outlook 97 data, the entire tree, and imported
>> it into Office 2007 and it worked perfectly.

>
> This is the perfect scenario for Importing.
>
> --
> Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
> Outlook Tips: http://www.outlook-tips.net/
> Outlook & Exchange Solutions Center: http://www.slipstick.com/
>
> Outlook Tips by email:
> mailto:dailytips-subscribe-request@lists.outlooktips.net
>
> EMO - a weekly newsletter about Outlook and Exchange:
> mailto:EMO-NEWSLETTER-SUBSCRIBE-REQUEST@PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM
>
> Do you sync your mailbox with a smartphone or pda?
> http://forums.slipstick.com/showthread.php?t=39473
>
> "Leythos" <spam999free@rrohio.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.261eb17cada20d6798a242@us.news.astraweb.com...
>> In article <e6GIWAa0KHA.364@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, okf22@hotmail.com
>> says...
>>> You were correct with your answer to the OP in the alt.group. Importing and
>>> Exporting will corrupt the files
>>>

>>
>> No, he's not correct and it will not corrupt the files.
>>
>> Just yesterday I exported Outlook 97 data, the entire tree, and imported
>> it into Office 2007 and it worked perfectly.
>>
>> --
>> You can't trust your best friends, your five senses, only the little
>> voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that.
>> Trust yourself.
>> spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)

>
 
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Leythos

Flightless Bird
In article <#i9vsCd0KHA.3652@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, okf22@hotmail.com
says...
>
> >How well will the *Win7* [Files and Settings Transfer Wizard] work
> >from a WinXP with Outlook 2000 to Win7 with Outlook 2007?

>
> OL 2000 to OL2007 pst
>
> Just curious Diane. Outlook 2000 to Outlook 2007 when files are saved importing the
> OL 2000 saved files to OL 2007 will not corrupt and will work ?


Why ask, why not try it yourself instead of making comments that you've
not tested yourself Pete?

I have to do this all the time, even the export from Exchange, using the
utilities can be imported into O2007.

I just did Outlook 97 to Outlook 2007 yesterday.

If you didn't know this, why did you bother commenting like you were an
authority on it?

--
You can't trust your best friends, your five senses, only the little
voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that.
Trust yourself.
spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)
 
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