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(MSCONFIG) An access denied error was returned while attempting to change a service......

C

Colin Trunt

Flightless Bird
...You may need to log on as administrator....

OK I get this in msconfig when making a change, however the change actually
is made despite the error message.

This is recent occurance, I am administrator (I have not changed anything on
the
accounts set-up)

I can't fix this, I read it could be something to do with HP printers
(weird)
and also something to do with anti-virus (sounds more logical).

OK so any ideas on how I can go about fixing it?



Also when PC goes to sleep I can't wake it with either keyboard or mouse
movement.
 
T

Twayne

Flightless Bird
In news:IQKun.15067$pV1.9712@newsfe21.ams2,
Colin Trunt <colin@trunt.com> typed:
> ..You may need to log on as administrator....
>
> OK I get this in msconfig when making a change, however the
> change actually is made despite the error message.
>
> This is recent occurance, I am administrator (I have not
> changed anything on the
> accounts set-up)

It's a "bug" and has been there for a long, long time. You
already know the change takes, so you'll have to live with the
rest of it.

>
> I can't fix this, I read it could be something to do with
> HP printers (weird)
> and also something to do with anti-virus (sounds more
> logical).

Neither. Just how it's coded.

>
> OK so any ideas on how I can go about fixing it?

Unfortunately it cannot be fixed unless a 3rd party might
offer something. I've never heard of a "fix" for it though.

>
>
>
> Also when PC goes to sleep I can't wake it with either
> keyboard or mouse movement.

That's another issue altogether.

HTH,

Twayne`
 
C

Colin Trunt

Flightless Bird
"Twayne" <nobody@spamcop.net> wrote in message
news:uOZ6acb1KHA.2028@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> In news:IQKun.15067$pV1.9712@newsfe21.ams2,
> Colin Trunt <colin@trunt.com> typed:
>> ..You may need to log on as administrator....
>>
>> OK I get this in msconfig when making a change, however the
>> change actually is made despite the error message.
>>
>> This is recent occurance, I am administrator (I have not
>> changed anything on the
>> accounts set-up)
>
> It's a "bug" and has been there for a long, long time. You already know
> the change takes, so you'll have to live with the rest of it.


Well if it is a bug why have I never had it before?
Something has caused it and thus it can be undone, surely.

If find it rather unacceptable that there is no solution.


I mean presumable microsoft have the source code for MSCONFIG?

It must be simple to trace back from the error message back to the source of
the problem.





>
>>
>> I can't fix this, I read it could be something to do with
>> HP printers (weird)
>> and also something to do with anti-virus (sounds more
>> logical).
>
> Neither. Just how it's coded.
>
>>
>> OK so any ideas on how I can go about fixing it?
>
> Unfortunately it cannot be fixed unless a 3rd party might offer something.
> I've never heard of a "fix" for it though.
>
>>
>>
>>
>> Also when PC goes to sleep I can't wake it with either
>> keyboard or mouse movement.
>
> That's another issue altogether.

Another bag of shyte from Microsoft.

>
> HTH,
>
> Twayne`
>
>
 
C

Colin Trunt

Flightless Bird
"Twayne" <nobody@spamcop.net> wrote in message
news:uOZ6acb1KHA.2028@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> In news:IQKun.15067$pV1.9712@newsfe21.ams2,
> Colin Trunt <colin@trunt.com> typed:
>> ..You may need to log on as administrator....
>>
>> OK I get this in msconfig when making a change, however the
>> change actually is made despite the error message.
>>
>> This is recent occurance, I am administrator (I have not
>> changed anything on the
>> accounts set-up)
>
> It's a "bug" and has been there for a long, long time. You already know
> the change takes, so you'll have to live with the rest of it.


No I won't, I have cured it :-O)


>
>>
>> I can't fix this, I read it could be something to do with
>> HP printers (weird)
>> and also something to do with anti-virus (sounds more
>> logical).
>
> Neither. Just how it's coded.

Really could you provide evidence?

>
>>
>> OK so any ideas on how I can go about fixing it?
>
> Unfortunately it cannot be fixed unless a 3rd party might offer something.
> I've never heard of a "fix" for it though.

I have fixed mine.

>
>>
>>
>>
>> Also when PC goes to sleep I can't wake it with either
>> keyboard or mouse movement.
>
> That's another issue altogether.
>
> HTH,
>
> Twayne`
>
>
 
M

Michael

Flightless Bird
"Colin Trunt" <colin@trunt.com> wrote in message
news:QH1vn.167687$7o6.114336@newsfe27.ams2...
>
> "Twayne" <nobody@spamcop.net> wrote in message
> news:uOZ6acb1KHA.2028@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> In news:IQKun.15067$pV1.9712@newsfe21.ams2,
>> Colin Trunt <colin@trunt.com> typed:
>>> ..You may need to log on as administrator....
>>>
>>> OK I get this in msconfig when making a change, however the
>>> change actually is made despite the error message.
>>>
>>> This is recent occurance, I am administrator (I have not
>>> changed anything on the
>>> accounts set-up)
>>
>> It's a "bug" and has been there for a long, long time. You already know
>> the change takes, so you'll have to live with the rest of it.
>
>
> No I won't, I have cured it :-O)
>
>
>>
>>>
>>> I can't fix this, I read it could be something to do with
>>> HP printers (weird)
>>> and also something to do with anti-virus (sounds more
>>> logical).
>>
>> Neither. Just how it's coded.
>
> Really could you provide evidence?
>
>>
>>>
>>> OK so any ideas on how I can go about fixing it?
>>
>> Unfortunately it cannot be fixed unless a 3rd party might offer
>> something. I've never heard of a "fix" for it though.
>
> I have fixed mine.

Care to enlighten us?
--


"Don't pick a fight with an old man.
If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you."
 
C

Colin Trunt

Flightless Bird
"Michael" <mdsjhu@gropumail.com> wrote in message
news:uM%23AkRn1KHA.364@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>
> "Colin Trunt" <colin@trunt.com> wrote in message
> news:QH1vn.167687$7o6.114336@newsfe27.ams2...
>>
>> "Twayne" <nobody@spamcop.net> wrote in message
>> news:uOZ6acb1KHA.2028@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> In news:IQKun.15067$pV1.9712@newsfe21.ams2,
>>> Colin Trunt <colin@trunt.com> typed:
>>>> ..You may need to log on as administrator....
>>>>
>>>> OK I get this in msconfig when making a change, however the
>>>> change actually is made despite the error message.
>>>>
>>>> This is recent occurance, I am administrator (I have not
>>>> changed anything on the
>>>> accounts set-up)
>>>
>>> It's a "bug" and has been there for a long, long time. You already know
>>> the change takes, so you'll have to live with the rest of it.
>>
>>
>> No I won't, I have cured it :-O)
>>
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I can't fix this, I read it could be something to do with
>>>> HP printers (weird)
>>>> and also something to do with anti-virus (sounds more
>>>> logical).
>>>
>>> Neither. Just how it's coded.
>>
>> Really could you provide evidence?
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> OK so any ideas on how I can go about fixing it?
>>>
>>> Unfortunately it cannot be fixed unless a 3rd party might offer
>>> something. I've never heard of a "fix" for it though.
>>
>> I have fixed mine.
>
> Care to enlighten us?


Start in diagnostic mode then change back to your old configuration
untill the problem reappears, I amd still reenabling stuff and have not got
the problem to clear yet.

> --
>
>
> "Don't pick a fight with an old man.
> If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you."
>
>
 
M

Michael

Flightless Bird
"Colin Trunt" <colin@trunt.com> wrote in message
news:vV3vn.174371$Er2.19458@newsfe20.ams2...
>
> "Michael" <mdsjhu@gropumail.com> wrote in message
> news:uM%23AkRn1KHA.364@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>
>> "Colin Trunt" <colin@trunt.com> wrote in message
>> news:QH1vn.167687$7o6.114336@newsfe27.ams2...
>>>
>>> "Twayne" <nobody@spamcop.net> wrote in message
>>> news:uOZ6acb1KHA.2028@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> In news:IQKun.15067$pV1.9712@newsfe21.ams2,
>>>> Colin Trunt <colin@trunt.com> typed:
>>>>> ..You may need to log on as administrator....
>>>>>
>>>>> OK I get this in msconfig when making a change, however the
>>>>> change actually is made despite the error message.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is recent occurance, I am administrator (I have not
>>>>> changed anything on the
>>>>> accounts set-up)
>>>>
>>>> It's a "bug" and has been there for a long, long time. You already know
>>>> the change takes, so you'll have to live with the rest of it.
>>>
>>>
>>> No I won't, I have cured it :-O)
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I can't fix this, I read it could be something to do with
>>>>> HP printers (weird)
>>>>> and also something to do with anti-virus (sounds more
>>>>> logical).
>>>>
>>>> Neither. Just how it's coded.
>>>
>>> Really could you provide evidence?
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> OK so any ideas on how I can go about fixing it?
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately it cannot be fixed unless a 3rd party might offer
>>>> something. I've never heard of a "fix" for it though.
>>>
>>> I have fixed mine.
>>
>> Care to enlighten us?
>
>
> Start in diagnostic mode then change back to your old configuration
> untill the problem reappears, I amd still reenabling stuff and have not
> got
> the problem to clear yet.
>

So you haven't nailed it down yet.
--


"Don't pick a fight with an old man.
If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you."
 
J

Jose

Flightless Bird
Re: (MSCONFIG) An access denied error was returned while attemptingto change a service......

On Apr 6, 2:13 pm, "Colin Trunt" <co...@trunt.com> wrote:
> ..You may need to log on as administrator....
>
> OK I get this in msconfig when making a change, however the change actually
> is made despite the error message.
>
> This is recent occurance, I am administrator (I have not changed anythingon
> the
> accounts set-up)
>
> I can't fix this, I read it could be something to do with HP printers
> (weird)
> and also something to do with anti-virus (sounds more logical).
>
> OK so any ideas on how I can go about fixing it?
>
> Also when PC goes to sleep I can't wake it with either keyboard or mouse
> movement.

You read it had something to do with HP printers?

You say you are getting this message:

You may need to logon as administrator?

That doesn't look like an XP message so maybe it is coming from
someplace else.

The next questions are:

What exactly does that message say.
Do you now or have you ever had an HP printer or any HP software
installed?

Here is my standard copy/paste to a message sort of like the one you
mention so if you come up with another condition or solution that is
repeatable and verifiable, I would like to add it to my information.

I doubt anyone in this audience knows how it is coded so saying the
issue is a coding problem is pure speculation.

If you can tell me how to recreate the problem on a system where there
has never been any HP software installed, I would like to know that
too.


Trying to change something in msconfig you get access denied error
(but the change works):

An Access Denied error was returned while attempting to change a
service. You may need
to log on using an Administrator account to make the specified
changes.

If you have an HP printer installed, the problem is most likely the
HPZ12 service.

The msconfig changes seem to work, but the error message is annoying.

There is a possibility you will lose communications with your HP
printer if you want
to prevent the benign error message. This may not be a problem if you
don't care about the
communications or never use those HP features.

You can also live with the message, knowing the changes really worked
or ask HP and
count on them to suggest reinstalling Windows for this or any problem
they cannot figure
out how to solve.

Depending on your comfort level with making system changes, here are
two solutions.

http://www.ehow.com/how_4531999_fix-access-denied-error-using.html

http://pchell.com/support/msconfig_access_denied_error.shtml

Before making registry changes, backup your registry with this popular
free and easy to use
tool:

http://www.larshederer.homepage.t-online.de/erunt/
 
C

Colin Trunt

Flightless Bird
"Michael" <mdsjhu@gropumail.com> wrote in message
news:C134EB62-AD35-4502-99AA-5EE102431F81@microsoft.com...
> "Colin Trunt" <colin@trunt.com> wrote in message
> news:vV3vn.174371$Er2.19458@newsfe20.ams2...
>>
>> "Michael" <mdsjhu@gropumail.com> wrote in message
>> news:uM%23AkRn1KHA.364@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>> "Colin Trunt" <colin@trunt.com> wrote in message
>>> news:QH1vn.167687$7o6.114336@newsfe27.ams2...
>>>>
>>>> "Twayne" <nobody@spamcop.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:uOZ6acb1KHA.2028@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>> In news:IQKun.15067$pV1.9712@newsfe21.ams2,
>>>>> Colin Trunt <colin@trunt.com> typed:
>>>>>> ..You may need to log on as administrator....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> OK I get this in msconfig when making a change, however the
>>>>>> change actually is made despite the error message.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is recent occurance, I am administrator (I have not
>>>>>> changed anything on the
>>>>>> accounts set-up)
>>>>>
>>>>> It's a "bug" and has been there for a long, long time. You already
>>>>> know the change takes, so you'll have to live with the rest of it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No I won't, I have cured it :-O)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can't fix this, I read it could be something to do with
>>>>>> HP printers (weird)
>>>>>> and also something to do with anti-virus (sounds more
>>>>>> logical).
>>>>>
>>>>> Neither. Just how it's coded.
>>>>
>>>> Really could you provide evidence?
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> OK so any ideas on how I can go about fixing it?
>>>>>
>>>>> Unfortunately it cannot be fixed unless a 3rd party might offer
>>>>> something. I've never heard of a "fix" for it though.
>>>>
>>>> I have fixed mine.
>>>
>>> Care to enlighten us?
>>
>>
>> Start in diagnostic mode then change back to your old configuration
>> untill the problem reappears, I amd still reenabling stuff and have not
>> got
>> the problem to clear yet.
>>
>
> So you haven't nailed it down yet.
> --
>
>
> "Don't pick a fight with an old man.
> If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you."


I have fix the MSCONFIG access denied error in that it has gone away.
So I don't have a problem there as I have all the services I want running
or not running as the case may be.

It also cured another problem regarding the PC not waking from sleep
I am trying to find which program casued that and I managed to het it
to occur again, well almost, what happens now it the PC auto wakes
from sleep and that seems to happen whether the program is enabled or
disabled. That may be further confused by the short timeouts I have set
and also the confusion as to the difference between standby and turning off
monitor and drives.
>
>
 
C

Colin Trunt

Flightless Bird
"Colin Trunt" <colin@trunt.com> wrote in message
news:Bc5vn.64638$Yx6.56669@newsfe29.ams2...
>
> "Michael" <mdsjhu@gropumail.com> wrote in message
> news:C134EB62-AD35-4502-99AA-5EE102431F81@microsoft.com...
>> "Colin Trunt" <colin@trunt.com> wrote in message
>> news:vV3vn.174371$Er2.19458@newsfe20.ams2...
>>>
>>> "Michael" <mdsjhu@gropumail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:uM%23AkRn1KHA.364@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>
>>>> "Colin Trunt" <colin@trunt.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:QH1vn.167687$7o6.114336@newsfe27.ams2...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Twayne" <nobody@spamcop.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:uOZ6acb1KHA.2028@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> In news:IQKun.15067$pV1.9712@newsfe21.ams2,
>>>>>> Colin Trunt <colin@trunt.com> typed:
>>>>>>> ..You may need to log on as administrator....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> OK I get this in msconfig when making a change, however the
>>>>>>> change actually is made despite the error message.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is recent occurance, I am administrator (I have not
>>>>>>> changed anything on the
>>>>>>> accounts set-up)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's a "bug" and has been there for a long, long time. You already
>>>>>> know the change takes, so you'll have to live with the rest of it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> No I won't, I have cured it :-O)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I can't fix this, I read it could be something to do with
>>>>>>> HP printers (weird)
>>>>>>> and also something to do with anti-virus (sounds more
>>>>>>> logical).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Neither. Just how it's coded.
>>>>>
>>>>> Really could you provide evidence?
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> OK so any ideas on how I can go about fixing it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Unfortunately it cannot be fixed unless a 3rd party might offer
>>>>>> something. I've never heard of a "fix" for it though.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have fixed mine.
>>>>
>>>> Care to enlighten us?
>>>
>>>
>>> Start in diagnostic mode then change back to your old configuration
>>> untill the problem reappears, I amd still reenabling stuff and have not
>>> got
>>> the problem to clear yet.
>>>
>>
>> So you haven't nailed it down yet.
>> --
>>
>>
>> "Don't pick a fight with an old man.
>> If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you."
>
>
> I have fix the MSCONFIG access denied error in that it has gone away.
> So I don't have a problem there as I have all the services I want running
> or not running as the case may be.
>
> It also cured another problem regarding the PC not waking from sleep
> I am trying to find which program casued that and I managed to het it
> to occur again, well almost, what happens now it the PC auto wakes
> from sleep and that seems to happen whether the program is enabled or
> disabled. That may be further confused by the short timeouts I have set
> and also the confusion as to the difference between standby and turning
> off
> monitor and drives.


I just set it to standby after 2 mins and that seems to work although
it had two attempts at going on standby first time I tried it.


There maybe some complications but atm the wake up seems to be OK
and I have most of the set-up as I want it.


I will try a few changes and see if I can get the problem back but I will
do that more on a daily basis as I am sick of re-booting my PC,
as it stands I don't really have a problem as MSCONFIG is OK
and wake-up seems to work.
Anyway following my proceedure seems to cure the problems,
it migh be harder work getting them to reoccur than it was getting rid of
them,
and that was not easy!!!!!!!!


>>
>>
>
>
 
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