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Microsoft's new 'phone home' anti-piracy practice unacceptable, sayscritic

A

Alias

Flightless Bird
http://www.computerworld.com/s/arti...anti_piracy_practice_unacceptable_says_critic

The article for those running Windows and are afraid to click on urls in
Usenet messages:


The Internet advocate who blasted Microsoft in 2006 over the daily
"phone home" habits of its anti-piracy software took the company to task
again today for a new practice that will examine consumers' Windows 7
PCs every 90 days to make sure they're running legitimate copies of the OS.

Lauren Weinstein, the co-founder of People For Internet Responsibility
(PFIR), urged Windows 7 users not to accept the option update to Windows
Activation Technologies (WAT) when Microsoft begins seeding it to the
Windows Update service later this month.

"The approach that Microsoft is now taking doesn't seem to make sense,
even for honest consumers," Weinstein argued in a post to his blog.
"Microsoft will trigger forced downgrading to non-genuine status if they
believe a Windows 7 system is potentially pirated based on their 'phone
home' checks that will occur at (for now) 90 day intervals during the
entire life of Windows 7 on a given PC, even months or years after purchase.

On Thursday, Microsoft announced the WAT update would identify pirated
copies of Windows 7 that had been illegally activated using any of more
than 70 "cracks," or activation exploits. After users install the
update, the WAT software will regularly connect with Microsoft's servers
-- the "phone home" functionality that Weinstein called out -- to
download new crack "signatures," which would then be used to reevaluate
the copy of Windows 7.

The repeated validation is new to Windows, confirmed Joe Williams, the
general manager of Microsoft's Genuine Windows group, who said that
neither Windows XP or Vista had reevaluated already-activated Windows
PCs on a regular schedule. Machines that had had significant hardware
component replacements were the exception: Swapping out a motherboard,
for instance, would typically trigger another activation validation.

Williams defended the change. "We want to make sure we're protecting our
customers," he said, against newly-developed activation cracks that may
have slipped by Microsoft, or simply not been in use, when the PC was
originally activated. "And we're a commercial enterprise, and it is
important that our [intellectual property] is protected."

Weinstein countered that Microsoft was overstepping its bounds by
demanding validations in perpetuity. "Say you've used your system for a
year. Is it reasonable for Microsoft to say, 'We changed our mind and
now you're not genuine'?" asked Weinstein in an interview today. "It's
one thing to validate when you originally get the system, but to do that
months or years later, and [for] Microsoft [to] say, 'Now we're going to
say your Windows is not genuine,' ...it becomes a matter of ownership.
At what point is one free of this constant checking?"

Weinstein called the new Microsoft WAT update an "unacceptable
intrusion" and more. "For Microsoft to assert that they have the right
to treat ordinary PC-using consumers in this manner, declaring their
systems to be non-genuine and downgrading them at any time, is rather
staggering," he said.

He recommended that users reject the download of the WAT update. To do
that, users may have to reset Windows Update so that it does not
automatically download and install every update.

Microsoft's Williams suggested the same if users don't want Microsoft
re-validating Windows. "We're pretty insistent that this is a voluntary
update," he said. "And any customers who don't want WAT can uninstall
the update after it's installed." The uninstall option is new for
Microsoft's anti-piracy software; in the past, once installed, it could
not be removed.

Weinstein may be best known to Windows users for uncovering the secret
"phone home" characteristics of WAT's predecessor, Windows Genuine
Advantage (WGA), when Microsoft launched an update in June 2006. The hue
and cry over the feature drove Microsoft to first deny Weinstein's
charge that WGA was spyware, then to retreat from the constant
communication.

Today, Williams argued that the WAT update was not similar to the 2006
incident. "This is different," he said. "Why we took grief then was
because of a lack of disclosure, not the functionality of the feature."

Weinstein disagreed, saying that it was the feature itself that was
objectionable. "The approach represented by this kind of escalation,
into what basically amounts to a perpetual anti-piracy surveillance
regime embedded within already-purchased consumer equipment, is entirely
unacceptable," he said.

Microsoft has not announced a date when it will begin issuing the WAT
update via Windows Update -- only that it will happen this month -- but
has said it will post the update on its manual download site Feb. 17.

--
Alias
 
R

relic

Flightless Bird
Re: Microsoft's new 'phone home' anti-piracy practice unacceptable, says critic

"Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.com.invalid> wrote in message
news:hlc2ut$jj0$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> http://www.computerworld.com/s/arti...anti_piracy_practice_unacceptable_says_critic
>
> The article for those running Windows and are afraid to click on urls in
> Usenet messages:
>
>
> The Internet advocate who blasted Microsoft in 2006 over the daily "phone
> home" habits of its anti-piracy software took the company to task again
> today for a new practice that will examine consumers' Windows 7 PCs every
> 90 days to make sure they're running legitimate copies of the OS.
>
> Lauren Weinstein, the co-founder of People For Internet Responsibility
> (PFIR), urged Windows 7 users not to accept the option update to Windows
> Activation Technologies (WAT) when Microsoft begins seeding it to the
> Windows Update service later this month.
>
> "The approach that Microsoft is now taking doesn't seem to make sense,
> even for honest consumers," Weinstein argued in a post to his blog.
> "Microsoft will trigger forced downgrading to non-genuine status if they
> believe a Windows 7 system is potentially pirated based on their 'phone
> home' checks that will occur at (for now) 90 day intervals during the
> entire life of Windows 7 on a given PC, even months or years after
> purchase.
>
> On Thursday, Microsoft announced the WAT update would identify pirated
> copies of Windows 7 that had been illegally activated using any of more
> than 70 "cracks," or activation exploits. After users install the update,
> the WAT software will regularly connect with Microsoft's servers -- the
> "phone home" functionality that Weinstein called out -- to download new
> crack "signatures," which would then be used to reevaluate the copy of
> Windows 7.
>
> The repeated validation is new to Windows, confirmed Joe Williams, the
> general manager of Microsoft's Genuine Windows group, who said that
> neither Windows XP or Vista had reevaluated already-activated Windows PCs
> on a regular schedule. Machines that had had significant hardware
> component replacements were the exception: Swapping out a motherboard, for
> instance, would typically trigger another activation validation.
>
> Williams defended the change. "We want to make sure we're protecting our
> customers," he said, against newly-developed activation cracks that may
> have slipped by Microsoft, or simply not been in use, when the PC was
> originally activated. "And we're a commercial enterprise, and it is
> important that our [intellectual property] is protected."
>
> Weinstein countered that Microsoft was overstepping its bounds by
> demanding validations in perpetuity. "Say you've used your system for a
> year. Is it reasonable for Microsoft to say, 'We changed our mind and now
> you're not genuine'?" asked Weinstein in an interview today. "It's one
> thing to validate when you originally get the system, but to do that
> months or years later, and [for] Microsoft [to] say, 'Now we're going to
> say your Windows is not genuine,' ...it becomes a matter of ownership. At
> what point is one free of this constant checking?"
>
> Weinstein called the new Microsoft WAT update an "unacceptable intrusion"
> and more. "For Microsoft to assert that they have the right to treat
> ordinary PC-using consumers in this manner, declaring their systems to be
> non-genuine and downgrading them at any time, is rather staggering," he
> said.
>
> He recommended that users reject the download of the WAT update. To do
> that, users may have to reset Windows Update so that it does not
> automatically download and install every update.
>
> Microsoft's Williams suggested the same if users don't want Microsoft
> re-validating Windows. "We're pretty insistent that this is a voluntary
> update," he said. "And any customers who don't want WAT can uninstall the
> update after it's installed." The uninstall option is new for Microsoft's
> anti-piracy software; in the past, once installed, it could not be
> removed.
>
> Weinstein may be best known to Windows users for uncovering the secret
> "phone home" characteristics of WAT's predecessor, Windows Genuine
> Advantage (WGA), when Microsoft launched an update in June 2006. The hue
> and cry over the feature drove Microsoft to first deny Weinstein's charge
> that WGA was spyware, then to retreat from the constant communication.
>
> Today, Williams argued that the WAT update was not similar to the 2006
> incident. "This is different," he said. "Why we took grief then was
> because of a lack of disclosure, not the functionality of the feature."
>
> Weinstein disagreed, saying that it was the feature itself that was
> objectionable. "The approach represented by this kind of escalation, into
> what basically amounts to a perpetual anti-piracy surveillance regime
> embedded within already-purchased consumer equipment, is entirely
> unacceptable," he said.
>
> Microsoft has not announced a date when it will begin issuing the WAT
> update via Windows Update -- only that it will happen this month -- but
> has said it will post the update on its manual download site Feb. 17.


Be legit and it's not a problem.
 
A

Alias

Flightless Bird
Re: Microsoft's new 'phone home' anti-piracy practice unacceptable,says critic

relic wrote:
>
> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.com.invalid> wrote in message
> news:hlc2ut$jj0$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>> http://www.computerworld.com/s/arti...anti_piracy_practice_unacceptable_says_critic
>>
>>
>> The article for those running Windows and are afraid to click on urls
>> in Usenet messages:
>>
>>
>> The Internet advocate who blasted Microsoft in 2006 over the daily
>> "phone home" habits of its anti-piracy software took the company to
>> task again today for a new practice that will examine consumers'
>> Windows 7 PCs every 90 days to make sure they're running legitimate
>> copies of the OS.
>>
>> Lauren Weinstein, the co-founder of People For Internet Responsibility
>> (PFIR), urged Windows 7 users not to accept the option update to
>> Windows Activation Technologies (WAT) when Microsoft begins seeding it
>> to the Windows Update service later this month.
>>
>> "The approach that Microsoft is now taking doesn't seem to make sense,
>> even for honest consumers," Weinstein argued in a post to his blog.
>> "Microsoft will trigger forced downgrading to non-genuine status if
>> they believe a Windows 7 system is potentially pirated based on their
>> 'phone home' checks that will occur at (for now) 90 day intervals
>> during the entire life of Windows 7 on a given PC, even months or
>> years after purchase.
>>
>> On Thursday, Microsoft announced the WAT update would identify pirated
>> copies of Windows 7 that had been illegally activated using any of
>> more than 70 "cracks," or activation exploits. After users install the
>> update, the WAT software will regularly connect with Microsoft's
>> servers -- the "phone home" functionality that Weinstein called out --
>> to download new crack "signatures," which would then be used to
>> reevaluate the copy of Windows 7.
>>
>> The repeated validation is new to Windows, confirmed Joe Williams, the
>> general manager of Microsoft's Genuine Windows group, who said that
>> neither Windows XP or Vista had reevaluated already-activated Windows
>> PCs on a regular schedule. Machines that had had significant hardware
>> component replacements were the exception: Swapping out a motherboard,
>> for instance, would typically trigger another activation validation.
>>
>> Williams defended the change. "We want to make sure we're protecting
>> our customers," he said, against newly-developed activation cracks
>> that may have slipped by Microsoft, or simply not been in use, when
>> the PC was originally activated. "And we're a commercial enterprise,
>> and it is important that our [intellectual property] is protected."
>>
>> Weinstein countered that Microsoft was overstepping its bounds by
>> demanding validations in perpetuity. "Say you've used your system for
>> a year. Is it reasonable for Microsoft to say, 'We changed our mind
>> and now you're not genuine'?" asked Weinstein in an interview today.
>> "It's one thing to validate when you originally get the system, but to
>> do that months or years later, and [for] Microsoft [to] say, 'Now
>> we're going to say your Windows is not genuine,' ...it becomes a
>> matter of ownership. At what point is one free of this constant
>> checking?"
>>
>> Weinstein called the new Microsoft WAT update an "unacceptable
>> intrusion" and more. "For Microsoft to assert that they have the right
>> to treat ordinary PC-using consumers in this manner, declaring their
>> systems to be non-genuine and downgrading them at any time, is rather
>> staggering," he said.
>>
>> He recommended that users reject the download of the WAT update. To do
>> that, users may have to reset Windows Update so that it does not
>> automatically download and install every update.
>>
>> Microsoft's Williams suggested the same if users don't want Microsoft
>> re-validating Windows. "We're pretty insistent that this is a
>> voluntary update," he said. "And any customers who don't want WAT can
>> uninstall the update after it's installed." The uninstall option is
>> new for Microsoft's anti-piracy software; in the past, once installed,
>> it could not be removed.
>>
>> Weinstein may be best known to Windows users for uncovering the secret
>> "phone home" characteristics of WAT's predecessor, Windows Genuine
>> Advantage (WGA), when Microsoft launched an update in June 2006. The
>> hue and cry over the feature drove Microsoft to first deny Weinstein's
>> charge that WGA was spyware, then to retreat from the constant
>> communication.
>>
>> Today, Williams argued that the WAT update was not similar to the 2006
>> incident. "This is different," he said. "Why we took grief then was
>> because of a lack of disclosure, not the functionality of the feature."
>>
>> Weinstein disagreed, saying that it was the feature itself that was
>> objectionable. "The approach represented by this kind of escalation,
>> into what basically amounts to a perpetual anti-piracy surveillance
>> regime embedded within already-purchased consumer equipment, is
>> entirely unacceptable," he said.
>>
>> Microsoft has not announced a date when it will begin issuing the WAT
>> update via Windows Update -- only that it will happen this month --
>> but has said it will post the update on its manual download site Feb. 17.

>
> Be legit and it's not a problem.
>
>


Never heard of false positives, eh? And do you *like* having your
computer checked by Microsoft every 90 days?

--
Alias
 
F

Frank

Flightless Bird
Re: Microsoft's new 'phone home' anti-piracy practice unacceptable,says critic

Alias wrote:
> relic wrote:
>>
>> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.com.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:hlc2ut$jj0$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>> http://www.computerworld.com/s/arti...anti_piracy_practice_unacceptable_says_critic
>>>
>>>
>>> The article for those running Windows and are afraid to click on urls
>>> in Usenet messages:
>>>
>>>
>>> The Internet advocate who blasted Microsoft in 2006 over the daily
>>> "phone home" habits of its anti-piracy software took the company to
>>> task again today for a new practice that will examine consumers'
>>> Windows 7 PCs every 90 days to make sure they're running legitimate
>>> copies of the OS.
>>>
>>> Lauren Weinstein, the co-founder of People For Internet
>>> Responsibility (PFIR), urged Windows 7 users not to accept the option
>>> update to Windows Activation Technologies (WAT) when Microsoft begins
>>> seeding it to the Windows Update service later this month.
>>>
>>> "The approach that Microsoft is now taking doesn't seem to make
>>> sense, even for honest consumers," Weinstein argued in a post to his
>>> blog. "Microsoft will trigger forced downgrading to non-genuine
>>> status if they believe a Windows 7 system is potentially pirated
>>> based on their 'phone home' checks that will occur at (for now) 90
>>> day intervals during the entire life of Windows 7 on a given PC, even
>>> months or years after purchase.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, Microsoft announced the WAT update would identify
>>> pirated copies of Windows 7 that had been illegally activated using
>>> any of more than 70 "cracks," or activation exploits. After users
>>> install the update, the WAT software will regularly connect with
>>> Microsoft's servers -- the "phone home" functionality that Weinstein
>>> called out -- to download new crack "signatures," which would then be
>>> used to reevaluate the copy of Windows 7.
>>>
>>> The repeated validation is new to Windows, confirmed Joe Williams,
>>> the general manager of Microsoft's Genuine Windows group, who said
>>> that neither Windows XP or Vista had reevaluated already-activated
>>> Windows PCs on a regular schedule. Machines that had had significant
>>> hardware component replacements were the exception: Swapping out a
>>> motherboard, for instance, would typically trigger another activation
>>> validation.
>>>
>>> Williams defended the change. "We want to make sure we're protecting
>>> our customers," he said, against newly-developed activation cracks
>>> that may have slipped by Microsoft, or simply not been in use, when
>>> the PC was originally activated. "And we're a commercial enterprise,
>>> and it is important that our [intellectual property] is protected."
>>>
>>> Weinstein countered that Microsoft was overstepping its bounds by
>>> demanding validations in perpetuity. "Say you've used your system for
>>> a year. Is it reasonable for Microsoft to say, 'We changed our mind
>>> and now you're not genuine'?" asked Weinstein in an interview today.
>>> "It's one thing to validate when you originally get the system, but
>>> to do that months or years later, and [for] Microsoft [to] say, 'Now
>>> we're going to say your Windows is not genuine,' ...it becomes a
>>> matter of ownership. At what point is one free of this constant
>>> checking?"
>>>
>>> Weinstein called the new Microsoft WAT update an "unacceptable
>>> intrusion" and more. "For Microsoft to assert that they have the
>>> right to treat ordinary PC-using consumers in this manner, declaring
>>> their systems to be non-genuine and downgrading them at any time, is
>>> rather staggering," he said.
>>>
>>> He recommended that users reject the download of the WAT update. To
>>> do that, users may have to reset Windows Update so that it does not
>>> automatically download and install every update.
>>>
>>> Microsoft's Williams suggested the same if users don't want Microsoft
>>> re-validating Windows. "We're pretty insistent that this is a
>>> voluntary update," he said. "And any customers who don't want WAT can
>>> uninstall the update after it's installed." The uninstall option is
>>> new for Microsoft's anti-piracy software; in the past, once
>>> installed, it could not be removed.
>>>
>>> Weinstein may be best known to Windows users for uncovering the
>>> secret "phone home" characteristics of WAT's predecessor, Windows
>>> Genuine Advantage (WGA), when Microsoft launched an update in June
>>> 2006. The hue and cry over the feature drove Microsoft to first deny
>>> Weinstein's charge that WGA was spyware, then to retreat from the
>>> constant communication.
>>>
>>> Today, Williams argued that the WAT update was not similar to the
>>> 2006 incident. "This is different," he said. "Why we took grief then
>>> was because of a lack of disclosure, not the functionality of the
>>> feature."
>>>
>>> Weinstein disagreed, saying that it was the feature itself that was
>>> objectionable. "The approach represented by this kind of escalation,
>>> into what basically amounts to a perpetual anti-piracy surveillance
>>> regime embedded within already-purchased consumer equipment, is
>>> entirely unacceptable," he said.
>>>
>>> Microsoft has not announced a date when it will begin issuing the WAT
>>> update via Windows Update -- only that it will happen this month --
>>> but has said it will post the update on its manual download site Feb.
>>> 17.

>>
>> Be legit and it's not a problem.
>>
>>

>
> Never heard of false positives, eh? And do you *like* having your
> computer checked by Microsoft every 90 days?
>

Who exactly are you trying to fool, fool? You're like a little boy who
when he closes his eyes thinks no one can see him.

You are a known and admitted liar, cheat, and a thief and a bigoted
atheist asshole POS loser who is afraid of me and unable to defend the
honor of his supposed family.
Oops!
 
C

Canuck57

Flightless Bird
Re: Microsoft's new 'phone home' anti-piracy practice unacceptable,says critic

On 15/02/2010 11:26 AM, Alias wrote:
> relic wrote:
>>
>> "Alias" <aka@masked&anonymous.com.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:hlc2ut$jj0$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>> http://www.computerworld.com/s/arti...anti_piracy_practice_unacceptable_says_critic
>>>
>>>
>>> The article for those running Windows and are afraid to click on urls
>>> in Usenet messages:
>>>
>>>
>>> The Internet advocate who blasted Microsoft in 2006 over the daily
>>> "phone home" habits of its anti-piracy software took the company to
>>> task again today for a new practice that will examine consumers'
>>> Windows 7 PCs every 90 days to make sure they're running legitimate
>>> copies of the OS.
>>>
>>> Lauren Weinstein, the co-founder of People For Internet
>>> Responsibility (PFIR), urged Windows 7 users not to accept the option
>>> update to Windows Activation Technologies (WAT) when Microsoft begins
>>> seeding it to the Windows Update service later this month.
>>>
>>> "The approach that Microsoft is now taking doesn't seem to make
>>> sense, even for honest consumers," Weinstein argued in a post to his
>>> blog. "Microsoft will trigger forced downgrading to non-genuine
>>> status if they believe a Windows 7 system is potentially pirated
>>> based on their 'phone home' checks that will occur at (for now) 90
>>> day intervals during the entire life of Windows 7 on a given PC, even
>>> months or years after purchase.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, Microsoft announced the WAT update would identify
>>> pirated copies of Windows 7 that had been illegally activated using
>>> any of more than 70 "cracks," or activation exploits. After users
>>> install the update, the WAT software will regularly connect with
>>> Microsoft's servers -- the "phone home" functionality that Weinstein
>>> called out -- to download new crack "signatures," which would then be
>>> used to reevaluate the copy of Windows 7.
>>>
>>> The repeated validation is new to Windows, confirmed Joe Williams,
>>> the general manager of Microsoft's Genuine Windows group, who said
>>> that neither Windows XP or Vista had reevaluated already-activated
>>> Windows PCs on a regular schedule. Machines that had had significant
>>> hardware component replacements were the exception: Swapping out a
>>> motherboard, for instance, would typically trigger another activation
>>> validation.
>>>
>>> Williams defended the change. "We want to make sure we're protecting
>>> our customers," he said, against newly-developed activation cracks
>>> that may have slipped by Microsoft, or simply not been in use, when
>>> the PC was originally activated. "And we're a commercial enterprise,
>>> and it is important that our [intellectual property] is protected."
>>>
>>> Weinstein countered that Microsoft was overstepping its bounds by
>>> demanding validations in perpetuity. "Say you've used your system for
>>> a year. Is it reasonable for Microsoft to say, 'We changed our mind
>>> and now you're not genuine'?" asked Weinstein in an interview today.
>>> "It's one thing to validate when you originally get the system, but
>>> to do that months or years later, and [for] Microsoft [to] say, 'Now
>>> we're going to say your Windows is not genuine,' ...it becomes a
>>> matter of ownership. At what point is one free of this constant
>>> checking?"
>>>
>>> Weinstein called the new Microsoft WAT update an "unacceptable
>>> intrusion" and more. "For Microsoft to assert that they have the
>>> right to treat ordinary PC-using consumers in this manner, declaring
>>> their systems to be non-genuine and downgrading them at any time, is
>>> rather staggering," he said.
>>>
>>> He recommended that users reject the download of the WAT update. To
>>> do that, users may have to reset Windows Update so that it does not
>>> automatically download and install every update.
>>>
>>> Microsoft's Williams suggested the same if users don't want Microsoft
>>> re-validating Windows. "We're pretty insistent that this is a
>>> voluntary update," he said. "And any customers who don't want WAT can
>>> uninstall the update after it's installed." The uninstall option is
>>> new for Microsoft's anti-piracy software; in the past, once
>>> installed, it could not be removed.
>>>
>>> Weinstein may be best known to Windows users for uncovering the
>>> secret "phone home" characteristics of WAT's predecessor, Windows
>>> Genuine Advantage (WGA), when Microsoft launched an update in June
>>> 2006. The hue and cry over the feature drove Microsoft to first deny
>>> Weinstein's charge that WGA was spyware, then to retreat from the
>>> constant communication.
>>>
>>> Today, Williams argued that the WAT update was not similar to the
>>> 2006 incident. "This is different," he said. "Why we took grief then
>>> was because of a lack of disclosure, not the functionality of the
>>> feature."
>>>
>>> Weinstein disagreed, saying that it was the feature itself that was
>>> objectionable. "The approach represented by this kind of escalation,
>>> into what basically amounts to a perpetual anti-piracy surveillance
>>> regime embedded within already-purchased consumer equipment, is
>>> entirely unacceptable," he said.
>>>
>>> Microsoft has not announced a date when it will begin issuing the WAT
>>> update via Windows Update -- only that it will happen this month --
>>> but has said it will post the update on its manual download site Feb.
>>> 17.

>>
>> Be legit and it's not a problem.
>>
>>

>
> Never heard of false positives, eh? And do you *like* having your
> computer checked by Microsoft every 90 days?


If people truly valued security and confidentiality, they would not be
using MS-Windows anything.
 
A

Al Smith

Flightless Bird
Re: Microsoft's new 'phone home' anti-piracy practice unacceptable,says critic

Alias wrote:
> http://www.computerworld.com/s/arti...anti_piracy_practice_unacceptable_says_critic
>
>
> The article for those running Windows and are afraid to click on urls in
> Usenet messages:
>
>
> The Internet advocate who blasted Microsoft in 2006 over the daily
> "phone home" habits of its anti-piracy software took the company to task
> again today for a new practice that will examine consumers' Windows 7
> PCs every 90 days to make sure they're running legitimate copies of the OS.
>
> Lauren Weinstein, the co-founder of People For Internet Responsibility
> (PFIR), urged Windows 7 users not to accept the option update to Windows
> Activation Technologies (WAT) when Microsoft begins seeding it to the
> Windows Update service later this month.
>
> "The approach that Microsoft is now taking doesn't seem to make sense,
> even for honest consumers," Weinstein argued in a post to his blog.
> "Microsoft will trigger forced downgrading to non-genuine status if they
> believe a Windows 7 system is potentially pirated based on their 'phone
> home' checks that will occur at (for now) 90 day intervals during the
> entire life of Windows 7 on a given PC, even months or years after
> purchase.
>
> On Thursday, Microsoft announced the WAT update would identify pirated
> copies of Windows 7 that had been illegally activated using any of more
> than 70 "cracks," or activation exploits. After users install the
> update, the WAT software will regularly connect with Microsoft's servers
> -- the "phone home" functionality that Weinstein called out -- to
> download new crack "signatures," which would then be used to reevaluate
> the copy of Windows 7.
>
> The repeated validation is new to Windows, confirmed Joe Williams, the
> general manager of Microsoft's Genuine Windows group, who said that
> neither Windows XP or Vista had reevaluated already-activated Windows
> PCs on a regular schedule. Machines that had had significant hardware
> component replacements were the exception: Swapping out a motherboard,
> for instance, would typically trigger another activation validation.
>
> Williams defended the change. "We want to make sure we're protecting our
> customers," he said, against newly-developed activation cracks that may
> have slipped by Microsoft, or simply not been in use, when the PC was
> originally activated. "And we're a commercial enterprise, and it is
> important that our [intellectual property] is protected."
>
> Weinstein countered that Microsoft was overstepping its bounds by
> demanding validations in perpetuity. "Say you've used your system for a
> year. Is it reasonable for Microsoft to say, 'We changed our mind and
> now you're not genuine'?" asked Weinstein in an interview today. "It's
> one thing to validate when you originally get the system, but to do that
> months or years later, and [for] Microsoft [to] say, 'Now we're going to
> say your Windows is not genuine,' ...it becomes a matter of ownership.
> At what point is one free of this constant checking?"
>
> Weinstein called the new Microsoft WAT update an "unacceptable
> intrusion" and more. "For Microsoft to assert that they have the right
> to treat ordinary PC-using consumers in this manner, declaring their
> systems to be non-genuine and downgrading them at any time, is rather
> staggering," he said.
>
> He recommended that users reject the download of the WAT update. To do
> that, users may have to reset Windows Update so that it does not
> automatically download and install every update.
>
> Microsoft's Williams suggested the same if users don't want Microsoft
> re-validating Windows. "We're pretty insistent that this is a voluntary
> update," he said. "And any customers who don't want WAT can uninstall
> the update after it's installed." The uninstall option is new for
> Microsoft's anti-piracy software; in the past, once installed, it could
> not be removed.
>
> Weinstein may be best known to Windows users for uncovering the secret
> "phone home" characteristics of WAT's predecessor, Windows Genuine
> Advantage (WGA), when Microsoft launched an update in June 2006. The hue
> and cry over the feature drove Microsoft to first deny Weinstein's
> charge that WGA was spyware, then to retreat from the constant
> communication.
>
> Today, Williams argued that the WAT update was not similar to the 2006
> incident. "This is different," he said. "Why we took grief then was
> because of a lack of disclosure, not the functionality of the feature."
>
> Weinstein disagreed, saying that it was the feature itself that was
> objectionable. "The approach represented by this kind of escalation,
> into what basically amounts to a perpetual anti-piracy surveillance
> regime embedded within already-purchased consumer equipment, is entirely
> unacceptable," he said.
>
> Microsoft has not announced a date when it will begin issuing the WAT
> update via Windows Update -- only that it will happen this month -- but
> has said it will post the update on its manual download site Feb. 17.
>



I thought this part was very funny:

Williams defended the change. "We want to make sure we're
protecting our customers," he said, against newly-developed
activation cracks that may have slipped by Microsoft, or simply
not been in use, when the PC was originally activated.

[end quote]

Why do computer users need to be protected against hacks that
deactivate Microsoft's product activation? Deactivating WPA is a
good thing. It means less potential for grief. No, the only ones
Microsoft is protecting here are themselves.

All it means to me is that I can never use Microsoft's automatic
download, or anything that requires the running of the "Genuine
Advantage" or whatever else they are calling their piracy-sniffing
tools these days. I have a completely legitimate copy of Windows
7, yet these tools are cut off to me, because I don't want to risk
the screw ups of WPA and associated "security" crap.

-Al-
 
R

ray

Flightless Bird
Re: Microsoft's new 'phone home' anti-piracy practice unacceptable,says critic

On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 20:34:48 +0000, Al Smith wrote:

> Alias wrote:
>> http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9156518/

Microsoft_s_new_phone_home_anti_piracy_practice_unacceptable_says_critic
>>
>>
>> The article for those running Windows and are afraid to click on urls
>> in Usenet messages:
>>
>>
>> The Internet advocate who blasted Microsoft in 2006 over the daily
>> "phone home" habits of its anti-piracy software took the company to
>> task again today for a new practice that will examine consumers'
>> Windows 7 PCs every 90 days to make sure they're running legitimate
>> copies of the OS.
>>
>> Lauren Weinstein, the co-founder of People For Internet Responsibility
>> (PFIR), urged Windows 7 users not to accept the option update to
>> Windows Activation Technologies (WAT) when Microsoft begins seeding it
>> to the Windows Update service later this month.
>>
>> "The approach that Microsoft is now taking doesn't seem to make sense,
>> even for honest consumers," Weinstein argued in a post to his blog.
>> "Microsoft will trigger forced downgrading to non-genuine status if
>> they believe a Windows 7 system is potentially pirated based on their
>> 'phone home' checks that will occur at (for now) 90 day intervals
>> during the entire life of Windows 7 on a given PC, even months or years
>> after purchase.
>>
>> On Thursday, Microsoft announced the WAT update would identify pirated
>> copies of Windows 7 that had been illegally activated using any of more
>> than 70 "cracks," or activation exploits. After users install the
>> update, the WAT software will regularly connect with Microsoft's
>> servers -- the "phone home" functionality that Weinstein called out --
>> to download new crack "signatures," which would then be used to
>> reevaluate the copy of Windows 7.
>>
>> The repeated validation is new to Windows, confirmed Joe Williams, the
>> general manager of Microsoft's Genuine Windows group, who said that
>> neither Windows XP or Vista had reevaluated already-activated Windows
>> PCs on a regular schedule. Machines that had had significant hardware
>> component replacements were the exception: Swapping out a motherboard,
>> for instance, would typically trigger another activation validation.
>>
>> Williams defended the change. "We want to make sure we're protecting
>> our customers," he said, against newly-developed activation cracks that
>> may have slipped by Microsoft, or simply not been in use, when the PC
>> was originally activated. "And we're a commercial enterprise, and it is
>> important that our [intellectual property] is protected."
>>
>> Weinstein countered that Microsoft was overstepping its bounds by
>> demanding validations in perpetuity. "Say you've used your system for a
>> year. Is it reasonable for Microsoft to say, 'We changed our mind and
>> now you're not genuine'?" asked Weinstein in an interview today. "It's
>> one thing to validate when you originally get the system, but to do
>> that months or years later, and [for] Microsoft [to] say, 'Now we're
>> going to say your Windows is not genuine,' ...it becomes a matter of
>> ownership. At what point is one free of this constant checking?"
>>
>> Weinstein called the new Microsoft WAT update an "unacceptable
>> intrusion" and more. "For Microsoft to assert that they have the right
>> to treat ordinary PC-using consumers in this manner, declaring their
>> systems to be non-genuine and downgrading them at any time, is rather
>> staggering," he said.
>>
>> He recommended that users reject the download of the WAT update. To do
>> that, users may have to reset Windows Update so that it does not
>> automatically download and install every update.
>>
>> Microsoft's Williams suggested the same if users don't want Microsoft
>> re-validating Windows. "We're pretty insistent that this is a voluntary
>> update," he said. "And any customers who don't want WAT can uninstall
>> the update after it's installed." The uninstall option is new for
>> Microsoft's anti-piracy software; in the past, once installed, it could
>> not be removed.
>>
>> Weinstein may be best known to Windows users for uncovering the secret
>> "phone home" characteristics of WAT's predecessor, Windows Genuine
>> Advantage (WGA), when Microsoft launched an update in June 2006. The
>> hue and cry over the feature drove Microsoft to first deny Weinstein's
>> charge that WGA was spyware, then to retreat from the constant
>> communication.
>>
>> Today, Williams argued that the WAT update was not similar to the 2006
>> incident. "This is different," he said. "Why we took grief then was
>> because of a lack of disclosure, not the functionality of the feature."
>>
>> Weinstein disagreed, saying that it was the feature itself that was
>> objectionable. "The approach represented by this kind of escalation,
>> into what basically amounts to a perpetual anti-piracy surveillance
>> regime embedded within already-purchased consumer equipment, is
>> entirely unacceptable," he said.
>>
>> Microsoft has not announced a date when it will begin issuing the WAT
>> update via Windows Update -- only that it will happen this month -- but
>> has said it will post the update on its manual download site Feb. 17.
>>
>>

>
> I thought this part was very funny:
>
>
>
> Williams defended the change. "We want to make sure we're protecting our
> customers," he said, against newly-developed activation cracks that may
> have slipped by Microsoft, or simply not been in use, when the PC was
> originally activated.
>
> [end quote]
>
> Why do computer users need to be protected against hacks that deactivate
> Microsoft's product activation? Deactivating WPA is a good thing. It
> means less potential for grief. No, the only ones Microsoft is
> protecting here are themselves.
>
> All it means to me is that I can never use Microsoft's automatic
> download, or anything that requires the running of the "Genuine
> Advantage" or whatever else they are calling their piracy-sniffing tools
> these days. I have a completely legitimate copy of Windows 7, yet these
> tools are cut off to me, because I don't want to risk the screw ups of
> WPA and associated "security" crap.
>
> -Al-
Maybe time to start exploring the alternatives.
 
J

John Aldred

Flightless Bird
Re: Microsoft's new 'phone home' anti-piracy practice unacceptable, says critic

Alias wrote:

>

http://www.computerworld.com/s/arti...anti_piracy_practice_unacceptable_says_critic
>
> The article for those running Windows and are afraid to click on urls in
> Usenet messages:
>


OT.
I'm running Microsoft Security Essentials on Win 7. I believe that when I
installed it there was a requirement to have my copy of the OS
authenticated. I suspect that this check is carried out on a regular basis.

Does anyone know if this is so, and if this is a similar process to the one
announced above?

--
John Aldred
 
A

Alias

Flightless Bird
Re: Microsoft's new 'phone home' anti-piracy practice unacceptable,says critic

John Aldred wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>
> http://www.computerworld.com/s/arti...anti_piracy_practice_unacceptable_says_critic
>> The article for those running Windows and are afraid to click on urls in
>> Usenet messages:
>>

>
> OT.
> I'm running Microsoft Security Essentials on Win 7. I believe that when I
> installed it there was a requirement to have my copy of the OS
> authenticated. I suspect that this check is carried out on a regular basis.
>
> Does anyone know if this is so, and if this is a similar process to the one
> announced above?
>


Yes and get used to it or look into alternatives.

--
Alias
 
F

Frank

Flightless Bird
Re: Microsoft's new 'phone home' anti-piracy practice unacceptable,says critic

John Aldred wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>
> http://www.computerworld.com/s/arti...anti_piracy_practice_unacceptable_says_critic
>> The article for those running Windows and are afraid to click on urls in
>> Usenet messages:
>>

>
> OT.
> I'm running Microsoft Security Essentials on Win 7. I believe that when I
> installed it there was a requirement to have my copy of the OS
> authenticated. I suspect that this check is carried out on a regular basis.
>
> Does anyone know if this is so, and if this is a similar process to the one
> announced above?
>

Once installed, it only updates the definitions as there is no need to
re-verify that your copy of Windows is Genuine.
 
F

Frank

Flightless Bird
Re: Microsoft's new 'phone home' anti-piracy practice unacceptable,says critic

Alias wrote:
> John Aldred wrote:
>> Alias wrote:
>>
>> http://www.computerworld.com/s/arti...anti_piracy_practice_unacceptable_says_critic
>>
>>> The article for those running Windows and are afraid to click on urls in
>>> Usenet messages:
>>>

>>
>> OT.
>> I'm running Microsoft Security Essentials on Win 7. I believe that when I
>> installed it there was a requirement to have my copy of the OS
>> authenticated. I suspect that this check is carried out on a regular
>> basis.
>>
>> Does anyone know if this is so, and if this is a similar process to
>> the one
>> announced above?
>>

>
> Yes and get used to it or look into alternatives.
>

LIAR! More of your MS hatred and FUD spreading? What a POS lying linturd
troll you are.
 
A

Alias

Flightless Bird
Re: Microsoft's new 'phone home' anti-piracy practice unacceptable,says critic

Frank wrote:
> John Aldred wrote:
>> Alias wrote:
>>
>> http://www.computerworld.com/s/arti...anti_piracy_practice_unacceptable_says_critic
>>
>>> The article for those running Windows and are afraid to click on urls in
>>> Usenet messages:
>>>

>>
>> OT.
>> I'm running Microsoft Security Essentials on Win 7. I believe that when I
>> installed it there was a requirement to have my copy of the OS
>> authenticated. I suspect that this check is carried out on a regular
>> basis.
>>
>> Does anyone know if this is so, and if this is a similar process to
>> the one
>> announced above?
>>

> Once installed, it only updates the definitions as there is no need to
> re-verify that your copy of Windows is Genuine.


Didn't read the article, eh? The reason the definitions are updated is
to make sure it's genuine again and again and again.

--
Alias
 
A

Alias

Flightless Bird
Re: Microsoft's new 'phone home' anti-piracy practice unacceptable,says critic

Frank wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>> John Aldred wrote:
>>> Alias wrote:
>>>
>>> http://www.computerworld.com/s/arti...anti_piracy_practice_unacceptable_says_critic
>>>
>>>> The article for those running Windows and are afraid to click on
>>>> urls in
>>>> Usenet messages:
>>>>
>>>
>>> OT.
>>> I'm running Microsoft Security Essentials on Win 7. I believe that
>>> when I
>>> installed it there was a requirement to have my copy of the OS
>>> authenticated. I suspect that this check is carried out on a regular
>>> basis.
>>>
>>> Does anyone know if this is so, and if this is a similar process to
>>> the one
>>> announced above?
>>>

>>
>> Yes and get used to it or look into alternatives.
>>

> LIAR! More of your MS hatred and FUD spreading? What a POS lying linturd
> troll you are.


Not a lie, pal. You will be checked every 90 days or more at Microsoft's
pleasure. Live with it and get used to it if you use Windows.

--
Alias
 
F

Frank

Flightless Bird
Re: Microsoft's new 'phone home' anti-piracy practice unacceptable,says critic

Alias wrote:
> Frank wrote:
>> John Aldred wrote:
>>> Alias wrote:
>>>
>>> http://www.computerworld.com/s/arti...anti_piracy_practice_unacceptable_says_critic
>>>
>>>> The article for those running Windows and are afraid to click on
>>>> urls in
>>>> Usenet messages:
>>>>
>>>
>>> OT.
>>> I'm running Microsoft Security Essentials on Win 7. I believe that
>>> when I
>>> installed it there was a requirement to have my copy of the OS
>>> authenticated. I suspect that this check is carried out on a regular
>>> basis.
>>>
>>> Does anyone know if this is so, and if this is a similar process to
>>> the one
>>> announced above?
>>>

>> Once installed, it only updates the definitions as there is no need to
>> re-verify that your copy of Windows is Genuine.

>
> Didn't read the article, eh?


Didn't comprehend the article, did you troll.

The reason the definitions are updated is
> to make sure it's genuine again and again and again.


The OP is referring specifically to WSE you *DUMB FUCK*!
 
F

Frank

Flightless Bird
Re: Microsoft's new 'phone home' anti-piracy practice unacceptable,says critic

Alias wrote:
> Frank wrote:
>> Alias wrote:
>>> John Aldred wrote:
>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.computerworld.com/s/arti...anti_piracy_practice_unacceptable_says_critic
>>>>
>>>>> The article for those running Windows and are afraid to click on
>>>>> urls in
>>>>> Usenet messages:
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> OT.
>>>> I'm running Microsoft Security Essentials on Win 7. I believe that
>>>> when I
>>>> installed it there was a requirement to have my copy of the OS
>>>> authenticated. I suspect that this check is carried out on a regular
>>>> basis.
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone know if this is so, and if this is a similar process to
>>>> the one
>>>> announced above?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yes and get used to it or look into alternatives.
>>>

>> LIAR! More of your MS hatred and FUD spreading? What a POS lying
>> linturd troll you are.

>
> Not a lie, pal. You will be checked every 90 days or more at Microsoft's
> pleasure. Live with it and get used to it if you use Windows.
>

Yes an outright lie from you...as expected. You stupid pile of useless
lying linturd FUD. The OP is specifically referring to WSE.
I don't care about being checked for Genuine MS...but I'm sure you're
now screwed!...LOL!
Oops!...Hahahah!!!
 
A

Alias

Flightless Bird
Re: Microsoft's new 'phone home' anti-piracy practice unacceptable,says critic

Frank wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>> Frank wrote:
>>> Alias wrote:
>>>> John Aldred wrote:
>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.computerworld.com/s/arti...anti_piracy_practice_unacceptable_says_critic
>>>>>
>>>>>> The article for those running Windows and are afraid to click on
>>>>>> urls in
>>>>>> Usenet messages:
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> OT.
>>>>> I'm running Microsoft Security Essentials on Win 7. I believe that
>>>>> when I
>>>>> installed it there was a requirement to have my copy of the OS
>>>>> authenticated. I suspect that this check is carried out on a
>>>>> regular basis.
>>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone know if this is so, and if this is a similar process to
>>>>> the one
>>>>> announced above?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes and get used to it or look into alternatives.
>>>>
>>> LIAR! More of your MS hatred and FUD spreading? What a POS lying
>>> linturd troll you are.

>>
>> Not a lie, pal. You will be checked every 90 days or more at
>> Microsoft's pleasure. Live with it and get used to it if you use Windows.
>>

> Yes an outright lie from you...as expected. You stupid pile of useless
> lying linturd FUD. The OP is specifically referring to WSE.


No, he was referring to the genuine check.

> I don't care about being checked for Genuine MS...but I'm sure you're
> now screwed!...LOL!
> Oops!...Hahahah!!!


Not at all but I do object to having to prove I bought something over
and over and over again. Course, you're stupid and I'm smart so it makes
sense that you don't care.


--
Alias
 
A

Alias

Flightless Bird
Re: Microsoft's new 'phone home' anti-piracy practice unacceptable,says critic

Frank wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>> Frank wrote:
>>> John Aldred wrote:
>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.computerworld.com/s/arti...anti_piracy_practice_unacceptable_says_critic
>>>>
>>>>> The article for those running Windows and are afraid to click on
>>>>> urls in
>>>>> Usenet messages:
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> OT.
>>>> I'm running Microsoft Security Essentials on Win 7. I believe that
>>>> when I
>>>> installed it there was a requirement to have my copy of the OS
>>>> authenticated. I suspect that this check is carried out on a regular
>>>> basis.
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone know if this is so, and if this is a similar process to
>>>> the one
>>>> announced above?
>>>>
>>> Once installed, it only updates the definitions as there is no need
>>> to re-verify that your copy of Windows is Genuine.

>>
>> Didn't read the article, eh?

>
> Didn't comprehend the article, did you troll.
>
> The reason the definitions are updated is
>> to make sure it's genuine again and again and again.

>
> The OP is referring specifically to WSE you *DUMB FUCK*!


The OP is ME, jerk off, and the article is about WAT.

--
Alias
 
F

Frank

Flightless Bird
Re: Microsoft's new 'phone home' anti-piracy practice unacceptable,says critic

Alias wrote:
> Frank wrote:
>> Alias wrote:
>>> Frank wrote:
>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>> John Aldred wrote:
>>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.computerworld.com/s/arti...anti_piracy_practice_unacceptable_says_critic
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The article for those running Windows and are afraid to click on
>>>>>>> urls in
>>>>>>> Usenet messages:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> OT.
>>>>>> I'm running Microsoft Security Essentials on Win 7. I believe that
>>>>>> when I
>>>>>> installed it there was a requirement to have my copy of the OS
>>>>>> authenticated. I suspect that this check is carried out on a
>>>>>> regular basis.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does anyone know if this is so, and if this is a similar process
>>>>>> to the one
>>>>>> announced above?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes and get used to it or look into alternatives.
>>>>>
>>>> LIAR! More of your MS hatred and FUD spreading? What a POS lying
>>>> linturd troll you are.
>>>
>>> Not a lie, pal. You will be checked every 90 days or more at
>>> Microsoft's pleasure. Live with it and get used to it if you use
>>> Windows.
>>>

>> Yes an outright lie from you...as expected. You stupid pile of
>> useless lying linturd FUD. The OP is specifically referring to WSE.

>
> No, he was referring to the genuine check.


Re-read the article you fucking idiot
>
>> I don't care about being checked for Genuine MS...but I'm sure you're
>> now screwed!...LOL!
>> Oops!...Hahahah!!!

>
> Not at all...


LIAR!

but I do object to having to prove I bought something over
> and over and over again.


Especially when you didn't "buy" but stoled it.

Course, you're stupid and I'm smart so it makes
> sense that you don't care.


I can afford real Genuine MS software whereas you're doomed to use free
(open sores shit) or pirated crap.
Now who is the "smart one" you *DUMB FUCK*
Oops!...LOL!
>
>
 
F

Frank

Flightless Bird
Re: Microsoft's new 'phone home' anti-piracy practice unacceptable,says critic

Alias wrote:
> Frank wrote:
>> Alias wrote:
>>> Frank wrote:
>>>> John Aldred wrote:
>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.computerworld.com/s/arti...anti_piracy_practice_unacceptable_says_critic
>>>>>
>>>>>> The article for those running Windows and are afraid to click on
>>>>>> urls in
>>>>>> Usenet messages:
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> OT.
>>>>> I'm running Microsoft Security Essentials on Win 7. I believe that
>>>>> when I
>>>>> installed it there was a requirement to have my copy of the OS
>>>>> authenticated. I suspect that this check is carried out on a
>>>>> regular basis.
>>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone know if this is so, and if this is a similar process to
>>>>> the one
>>>>> announced above?
>>>>>
>>>> Once installed, it only updates the definitions as there is no need
>>>> to re-verify that your copy of Windows is Genuine.
>>>
>>> Didn't read the article, eh?

>>
>> Didn't comprehend the article, did you troll.
>>
>> The reason the definitions are updated is
>>> to make sure it's genuine again and again and again.

>>
>> The OP is referring specifically to WSE you *DUMB FUCK*!

>
> The OP is ME, jerk off, and the article is about WAT.
>

The OP I answered referred to WSE cock sucker.
You stupid pile of useless lying linturd shit!
Go have babba, your male sheep lover, butt-fuck you some more.
 
A

Al Smith

Flightless Bird
Re: Microsoft's new 'phone home' anti-piracy practice unacceptable,says critic

ray wrote:
> On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 20:34:48 +0000, Al Smith wrote:
>
>> Alias wrote:
>>> http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9156518/

> Microsoft_s_new_phone_home_anti_piracy_practice_unacceptable_says_critic
>>>
>>>
>>> The article for those running Windows and are afraid to click on urls
>>> in Usenet messages:
>>>
>>>
>>> The Internet advocate who blasted Microsoft in 2006 over the daily
>>> "phone home" habits of its anti-piracy software took the company to
>>> task again today for a new practice that will examine consumers'
>>> Windows 7 PCs every 90 days to make sure they're running legitimate
>>> copies of the OS.
>>>
>>> Lauren Weinstein, the co-founder of People For Internet Responsibility
>>> (PFIR), urged Windows 7 users not to accept the option update to
>>> Windows Activation Technologies (WAT) when Microsoft begins seeding it
>>> to the Windows Update service later this month.
>>>
>>> "The approach that Microsoft is now taking doesn't seem to make sense,
>>> even for honest consumers," Weinstein argued in a post to his blog.
>>> "Microsoft will trigger forced downgrading to non-genuine status if
>>> they believe a Windows 7 system is potentially pirated based on their
>>> 'phone home' checks that will occur at (for now) 90 day intervals
>>> during the entire life of Windows 7 on a given PC, even months or years
>>> after purchase.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, Microsoft announced the WAT update would identify pirated
>>> copies of Windows 7 that had been illegally activated using any of more
>>> than 70 "cracks," or activation exploits. After users install the
>>> update, the WAT software will regularly connect with Microsoft's
>>> servers -- the "phone home" functionality that Weinstein called out --
>>> to download new crack "signatures," which would then be used to
>>> reevaluate the copy of Windows 7.
>>>
>>> The repeated validation is new to Windows, confirmed Joe Williams, the
>>> general manager of Microsoft's Genuine Windows group, who said that
>>> neither Windows XP or Vista had reevaluated already-activated Windows
>>> PCs on a regular schedule. Machines that had had significant hardware
>>> component replacements were the exception: Swapping out a motherboard,
>>> for instance, would typically trigger another activation validation.
>>>
>>> Williams defended the change. "We want to make sure we're protecting
>>> our customers," he said, against newly-developed activation cracks that
>>> may have slipped by Microsoft, or simply not been in use, when the PC
>>> was originally activated. "And we're a commercial enterprise, and it is
>>> important that our [intellectual property] is protected."
>>>
>>> Weinstein countered that Microsoft was overstepping its bounds by
>>> demanding validations in perpetuity. "Say you've used your system for a
>>> year. Is it reasonable for Microsoft to say, 'We changed our mind and
>>> now you're not genuine'?" asked Weinstein in an interview today. "It's
>>> one thing to validate when you originally get the system, but to do
>>> that months or years later, and [for] Microsoft [to] say, 'Now we're
>>> going to say your Windows is not genuine,' ...it becomes a matter of
>>> ownership. At what point is one free of this constant checking?"
>>>
>>> Weinstein called the new Microsoft WAT update an "unacceptable
>>> intrusion" and more. "For Microsoft to assert that they have the right
>>> to treat ordinary PC-using consumers in this manner, declaring their
>>> systems to be non-genuine and downgrading them at any time, is rather
>>> staggering," he said.
>>>
>>> He recommended that users reject the download of the WAT update. To do
>>> that, users may have to reset Windows Update so that it does not
>>> automatically download and install every update.
>>>
>>> Microsoft's Williams suggested the same if users don't want Microsoft
>>> re-validating Windows. "We're pretty insistent that this is a voluntary
>>> update," he said. "And any customers who don't want WAT can uninstall
>>> the update after it's installed." The uninstall option is new for
>>> Microsoft's anti-piracy software; in the past, once installed, it could
>>> not be removed.
>>>
>>> Weinstein may be best known to Windows users for uncovering the secret
>>> "phone home" characteristics of WAT's predecessor, Windows Genuine
>>> Advantage (WGA), when Microsoft launched an update in June 2006. The
>>> hue and cry over the feature drove Microsoft to first deny Weinstein's
>>> charge that WGA was spyware, then to retreat from the constant
>>> communication.
>>>
>>> Today, Williams argued that the WAT update was not similar to the 2006
>>> incident. "This is different," he said. "Why we took grief then was
>>> because of a lack of disclosure, not the functionality of the feature."
>>>
>>> Weinstein disagreed, saying that it was the feature itself that was
>>> objectionable. "The approach represented by this kind of escalation,
>>> into what basically amounts to a perpetual anti-piracy surveillance
>>> regime embedded within already-purchased consumer equipment, is
>>> entirely unacceptable," he said.
>>>
>>> Microsoft has not announced a date when it will begin issuing the WAT
>>> update via Windows Update -- only that it will happen this month -- but
>>> has said it will post the update on its manual download site Feb. 17.
>>>
>>>

>>
>> I thought this part was very funny:
>>
>>
>>
>> Williams defended the change. "We want to make sure we're protecting our
>> customers," he said, against newly-developed activation cracks that may
>> have slipped by Microsoft, or simply not been in use, when the PC was
>> originally activated.
>>
>> [end quote]
>>
>> Why do computer users need to be protected against hacks that deactivate
>> Microsoft's product activation? Deactivating WPA is a good thing. It
>> means less potential for grief. No, the only ones Microsoft is
>> protecting here are themselves.
>>
>> All it means to me is that I can never use Microsoft's automatic
>> download, or anything that requires the running of the "Genuine
>> Advantage" or whatever else they are calling their piracy-sniffing tools
>> these days. I have a completely legitimate copy of Windows 7, yet these
>> tools are cut off to me, because I don't want to risk the screw ups of
>> WPA and associated "security" crap.
>>
>> -Al-
>
> Maybe time to start exploring the alternatives.
It definitely is time. Getting away from Microsoft is like cutting
the umbilical cord. It's traumatic, but sooner or later it's got
to happen.

-Al-
 
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