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how to remove deleted fine names?

Discussion in 'Windows XP' started by someone watching, Mar 14, 2010.

  1. someone watching

    someone watching Flightless Bird

    When a file is deleted it can often be easily recovered with UNDELETE
    software. I'm wanting to completely remove any trace of certain deleted
    files, including the file name from FAT's.

    I've googled and found the following; there are shredder or WIPE tools which
    will overwrite the space a deleted file resided in, but I've found none
    which can remove the deleted files name. In fact one comment stated, "in NT
    it's not possible to remove (delete) a deleted files name"! Thought that
    sounded strange, could do it in W98 with Nut's and Bolts software.

    Is it true that XP (NT) does not allow a deleted files name to be removed
    from the file allocation tables (i.e. it can be easily seen with undelete
    software even though the freespace has been wiped)? It seems EVERY trace of
    any file should be able to be deleted ... but how?
     
  2. John Wunderlich

    John Wunderlich Flightless Bird

    "someone watching" <nospam@bogusaddress.com> wrote in
    news:ubSQxo7wKHA.3304@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl:

    > When a file is deleted it can often be easily recovered with
    > UNDELETE software. I'm wanting to completely remove any trace of
    > certain deleted files, including the file name from FAT's.
    >
    > I've googled and found the following; there are shredder or WIPE
    > tools which will overwrite the space a deleted file resided in,
    > but I've found none which can remove the deleted files name. In
    > fact one comment stated, "in NT it's not possible to remove
    > (delete) a deleted files name"! Thought that sounded strange,
    > could do it in W98 with Nut's and Bolts software.
    >
    > Is it true that XP (NT) does not allow a deleted files name to be
    > removed from the file allocation tables (i.e. it can be easily
    > seen with undelete software even though the freespace has been
    > wiped)? It seems EVERY trace of any file should be able to be
    > deleted ... but how?



    "Eraser" -- at least the 5.x versions -- have the option to erase the
    file names.

    An except from the Eraser help file:

    ---- quote ----
    Finally, the names of all previously deleted (or erased) files will
    be overwritten. On FAT{12,16,32} partitions this is done by going
    through all directory entries and overwriting deleted file entries.
    On NTFS partitions (Windows NT and 2000 only), Eraser creates maximum
    length files until the unused entries in the Master File Table are
    overwritten
    ---- /quote ----

    I assume the reference to NTFS applies to XP as well (i.e. the Help
    file is dated).

    Eraser
    <http://eraser.heidi.ie/>

    HTH,
    John
     
  3. someone watching

    someone watching Flightless Bird

    Re: how to remove deleted file names?

    Thanks for the info and the web link ... will check it out!
     

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