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hard drive recycles ?

Discussion in 'Windows XP' started by sixpack, Apr 13, 2010.

  1. sixpack

    sixpack Flightless Bird

    My second hard drive started what sounds like its shutting down and
    restarting and it does it over and over again, its a click and the sound of
    the disk spinning over and over. Nothing shows up on screen and not sure
    where or what to check. I unplugged the second drive and the problem goes
    away so I'm sure that the problem drive.

    Any Ideas ?

    Thanks
     
  2. Paul

    Paul Flightless Bird

    sixpack wrote:
    > My second hard drive started what sounds like its shutting down and
    > restarting and it does it over and over again, its a click and the sound of
    > the disk spinning over and over. Nothing shows up on screen and not sure
    > where or what to check. I unplugged the second drive and the problem goes
    > away so I'm sure that the problem drive.
    >
    > Any Ideas ?
    >
    > Thanks


    It could be a power problem. A bad power cable (burned pins on the Molex)
    is one way. Having too many loads on a length of cable from the power
    supply, is another way (I got the spin down/spin up when I had my video card
    and a hard drive, on the same power cable.) A bad power supply is another
    possibility (+5V or +12V, on the low side, will trigger HD restarts).

    It could also be a defect in the disk itself, such as an inability to get
    key information below track 0. The drive has some information, such as
    the spares tables and the like, which are stored on the platters (in a
    non-user area). An inability to access those areas, could cause the drive
    to repeatedly restart. It is unfortunate that disks won't respond, unless
    they are a little bit functional, because if the drive did respond at all
    times, it could be telling you right now, what it is having trouble with.
    But they don't design IDE disks that way.

    To eliminate power as an issue, try the disk on another computer. Or, if
    you don't have another computer, a less useful test case is using a USB
    enclosure with the drive, if you have one. I'd prefer though, to connect
    the disk to an internal cable on the second computer, as more diagnostic
    programs may work with an internal hookup. If it stops the spin down/spin up
    thing, you can download a disk diagnostic program from the disk manufacturer's
    web site. Not all manufacturers provide software, but some do.

    Paul
     
  3. choro

    choro Flightless Bird

    sixpack wrote:
    > My second hard drive started what sounds like its shutting down and
    > restarting and it does it over and over again, its a click and the
    > sound of the disk spinning over and over. Nothing shows up on screen
    > and not sure where or what to check. I unplugged the second drive and
    > the problem goes away so I'm sure that the problem drive.
    >
    > Any Ideas ?


    It goes into automatic power saving mode, does it? ;-)

    Get another one and let it gracefully retire before it does on you!

    We have a fable which goes...
    The joker thought he could teach his donkey to survive on less fodder and
    kept reducing the animal's fodder until one day the animal just went legs
    up. "Oh, no" said the joker, "don't die on me now that I have nearly taught
    you how to live on nothing!"
    --
    choro
    *****

    >
    > Thanks
     
  4. Jim

    Jim Flightless Bird

    On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 02:13:01 -0700, sixpack
    <sixpack@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

    >My second hard drive started what sounds like its shutting down and
    >restarting and it does it over and over again, its a click and the sound of
    >the disk spinning over and over. Nothing shows up on screen and not sure
    >where or what to check. I unplugged the second drive and the problem goes
    >away so I'm sure that the problem drive.
    >
    >Any Ideas ?
    >
    >Thanks


    Could be on its way out .
     
  5. Ben Myers

    Ben Myers Flightless Bird

    "sixpack" <sixpack@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
    news:D7231C04-7F2B-48BC-8D40-BA746A48C629@microsoft.com...
    > My second hard drive started what sounds like its shutting down and
    > restarting and it does it over and over again, its a click and the sound

    of
    > the disk spinning over and over. Nothing shows up on screen and not sure
    > where or what to check. I unplugged the second drive and the problem goes
    > away so I'm sure that the problem drive.
    > Any Ideas ?


    Click "Start", "Control Panel", double-click "Power Options" and on the
    "Power Schemes" tab, make sure "Turn off hard disks" is set to "Never". If
    it
    isn't, change it and click "OK".

    Ben
     
  6. sixpack

    sixpack Flightless Bird

    OK, I removed the drive and put it in a USB external encloser, so far after
    many hours of being on last nite and today it has not started its crap. The
    only thing on that power line was my main drive and a floppy drive that was
    not in use so should not have used any power. Would haveing 2 hard drives on
    one power line be a problem ? It will take some moving stuff around to put it
    on another line but do-able !

    "Paul" wrote:

    > sixpack wrote:
    > > My second hard drive started what sounds like its shutting down and
    > > restarting and it does it over and over again, its a click and the sound of
    > > the disk spinning over and over. Nothing shows up on screen and not sure
    > > where or what to check. I unplugged the second drive and the problem goes
    > > away so I'm sure that the problem drive.
    > >
    > > Any Ideas ?
    > >
    > > Thanks

    >
    > It could be a power problem. A bad power cable (burned pins on the Molex)
    > is one way. Having too many loads on a length of cable from the power
    > supply, is another way (I got the spin down/spin up when I had my video card
    > and a hard drive, on the same power cable.) A bad power supply is another
    > possibility (+5V or +12V, on the low side, will trigger HD restarts).
    >
    > It could also be a defect in the disk itself, such as an inability to get
    > key information below track 0. The drive has some information, such as
    > the spares tables and the like, which are stored on the platters (in a
    > non-user area). An inability to access those areas, could cause the drive
    > to repeatedly restart. It is unfortunate that disks won't respond, unless
    > they are a little bit functional, because if the drive did respond at all
    > times, it could be telling you right now, what it is having trouble with.
    > But they don't design IDE disks that way.
    >
    > To eliminate power as an issue, try the disk on another computer. Or, if
    > you don't have another computer, a less useful test case is using a USB
    > enclosure with the drive, if you have one. I'd prefer though, to connect
    > the disk to an internal cable on the second computer, as more diagnostic
    > programs may work with an internal hookup. If it stops the spin down/spin up
    > thing, you can download a disk diagnostic program from the disk manufacturer's
    > web site. Not all manufacturers provide software, but some do.
    >
    > Paul
    > .
    >
     
  7. sixpack

    sixpack Flightless Bird

    And now I put a old 40G drive where the problem drive was and after 2
    days...no problem ! WEIRD !

    "sixpack" wrote:

    > OK, I removed the drive and put it in a USB external encloser, so far after
    > many hours of being on last nite and today it has not started its crap. The
    > only thing on that power line was my main drive and a floppy drive that was
    > not in use so should not have used any power. Would haveing 2 hard drives on
    > one power line be a problem ? It will take some moving stuff around to put it
    > on another line but do-able !
    >
    > "Paul" wrote:
    >
    > > sixpack wrote:
    > > > My second hard drive started what sounds like its shutting down and
    > > > restarting and it does it over and over again, its a click and the sound of
    > > > the disk spinning over and over. Nothing shows up on screen and not sure
    > > > where or what to check. I unplugged the second drive and the problem goes
    > > > away so I'm sure that the problem drive.
    > > >
    > > > Any Ideas ?
    > > >
    > > > Thanks

    > >
    > > It could be a power problem. A bad power cable (burned pins on the Molex)
    > > is one way. Having too many loads on a length of cable from the power
    > > supply, is another way (I got the spin down/spin up when I had my video card
    > > and a hard drive, on the same power cable.) A bad power supply is another
    > > possibility (+5V or +12V, on the low side, will trigger HD restarts).
    > >
    > > It could also be a defect in the disk itself, such as an inability to get
    > > key information below track 0. The drive has some information, such as
    > > the spares tables and the like, which are stored on the platters (in a
    > > non-user area). An inability to access those areas, could cause the drive
    > > to repeatedly restart. It is unfortunate that disks won't respond, unless
    > > they are a little bit functional, because if the drive did respond at all
    > > times, it could be telling you right now, what it is having trouble with.
    > > But they don't design IDE disks that way.
    > >
    > > To eliminate power as an issue, try the disk on another computer. Or, if
    > > you don't have another computer, a less useful test case is using a USB
    > > enclosure with the drive, if you have one. I'd prefer though, to connect
    > > the disk to an internal cable on the second computer, as more diagnostic
    > > programs may work with an internal hookup. If it stops the spin down/spin up
    > > thing, you can download a disk diagnostic program from the disk manufacturer's
    > > web site. Not all manufacturers provide software, but some do.
    > >
    > > Paul
    > > .
    > >
     

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